We need a strong response. Nick Fuentes is literally (I mean in the most objective way) a fascist. We cant commit the same error we did in the past. We need to eliminate fascism in all ways we can, we need an objective plan, that actually works. a path to follow.
What can we do to phisically, objectively prevent Nick Fuentes disceminating fascism?
>muh great man
>>753616Moot ate toddler poop
Eliminating Fuentes popularity is number one priority. If fascists get to power we do nothing.
QRD on the video? I dont feel like hearing his gay voice
We need videos ridularizing his ideas. Not in a "you wrong, your fascist" that is not working. We need to show how wrong his ideas are for his public: cristians.
He defends capturing people, dominating countries and people but that is a sin to cristianity.
We need a lot of people doing that.
But I fear if a lot of people do videos about him he get even more popularity and visibility.
He's a literal fucking worm debasing himself with this Jeffrey Epstein cosplay because he thinks this will put him under the good graces of trump apparatchiks, it's actually sad to watch, every smart nazi like Hanania understands that the trump zeitgeist is over and have started presenting themselves as at least nominally anti-Trump, in time no one will recall this miserable little parasite
I like how the comments under the video complaining about how "the right is impotent :(" while a retard like OP would repost it but with the "left is impotent :(" message
Burger politics is funny
The left and right wings of capital are funny
>>753623Maybe the left is more influent. But its a fact Nick is gaining popularity very quickly.
>>753622Hes not cosplaying Epstein to be in graces with Trump. Hes actually oposing and making fun of Epstein and Trump. Hes smart.
>>753621>we need to le reproduce false consciuesness!!the christcuck framing allows for all sorts of contradictions and irrationalism, thats why fascist christcucks support shit thats against christcuck morality and see no problem with it
>>753625Shit low effort glaze. He's literally trying to rehabilitate Epstein by minimizing pedophilia and he's planning to heel turn towards supporting Israel so he may get some crumbs from the Trump admin his way, he's retarded and a compulsive bottom feeder.
>>753625he said trump apparatchiks
>>753627>There is a research that seems to say Nick is not that influent even in his own audience.Because he's not even consistent with his own ideas. Fakest man in politics right now, he's trying to sell his own audience and he's so transparent about it even groypers can tell.
>we
I don’t give af about glowie on glowie violence.
Let them kill eachother
Why is ACP in the thumbnail? Apart from not being catholic and opposing American imperialism, they basically want the same things as him. Well, I suppose they're on opposite sides of the white supremacy thing, but Nick is Mexican and half his associates are black so I don't think they're that far off.
>>753626You are just seeing what you want to see because you are a atheist.
Christianism is a natural response when the society is so bad at explaining things, just that.
Christians just want answers and we wil give them.
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They are not the same. If fascism gets to power they will destroy us phisically. That doesnt happen today.
>if liberals get in power they will destroy us liberals and our wholesome liberal democracy
Not my problemo
>>753615Arm yourself and the masses to prevent fascists from committing terror in your community.
The thing is, even if Nick isn't in power, fascists are already the state.
So, we should focus on anti-state efforts as a whole, Nick is just a sideliner and will probably remain so.
Beating and shaming him is a good enough response.
>>753635Nick is a fascist, not a liberal.
>>753616This.
Nick's platform is Rumble and X. His content gets pushed out to the masses because people like Peter Thiel and Musk allow it to. At the end of the day it's all about structural economic interests.
>>753636No, fascists are not in the power right now. Fascism is used when they cant get what they want, but that is a ultimate action. Thats hard for them to resort to that.
Today you can talk freely about comunism. If Nicks appologists get to power you are done. You will be in Jail.
>>753633>You are just seeing what you want to see because you are a atheist.What is this even supposed to mean?
>Christianism is a natural response when the society is so bad at explaining thingsyeah as I said, is false consciuesness, workers dont need to be explained things are "sins"
>we wil give them.if you are going to feed workers bullshit that keeps them ignorant of their economic interests then you are no better than Nick
>>753638Stop acting as Nicks politics are equal to todays politics. they are not and you know that.
>>753641You think Trump is not a fascist? Explain why.
>>753637>doesn't deny being liberalKEEEEEEEEEK
And yeah he is a liberal.
Fascism is an extention of liberalism but he isn't even fascist, he is just a chauvinist.
>As regards influencing the masses, we see here an imitation of the classical stance of bourgeois democracy. When it is asserted that all interests must be subordinated to the superior interest of the nation, that means that class collaboration is upheld in principle, while in practice the conservative bourgeois institutions are supported against the proletariat’s efforts to free itself. That is the role that liberal bourgeois democracy has always played.<Amadeo Bordiga 1922, Report on Fascism This delusional kid is an irrelevant distraction and nothing more.
>>753641>Stop acting as Nicks politics are equal to todays politics.if he gets in power he will have to work with the same state apparatus the current admin is and with lots of the same people
>>753636No, he will not. He will do the same thing Hitler did. get all the power by himself by force.
>>753645He's a mouthpiece sponsored by the Wilks Brothers IIRC
>>753639Trump is a fascist, his adminstation is fascist.
ICE is now deporting people who are critical of israel, IDing everyone, what makes you think me and you are safe?
There are literal camps currently in the US right now, people are being executed in public by ICE agents, technocrats have been absorbed into the goverment, this is textbook corporatism.
So tell me, how are we not currently in a fascist society?
>>753615>We need to eliminate fascism in all ways we can, There is only one way that will work.
>we need an objective plan, that actually works. a path to follow.It already exists, its called Communism.
>What can we do to phisically, objectively prevent Nick Fuentes disceminating fascism?Seizing the means of production and abolishing private property so the social class that will give him power is no longer able to do it.
Any more questions?
>>753649he is a retarded liberal who thinks fascism is when you are a hitler clone and your country looks 1:1 like Nazi germany and that all fascism is and ever was
>>753650Thats what the communist party thought in germany at the start of 1900
Tbh im surprised kirk was killed but Nick wasn't, Nick was way more evil and violent then kirk ever was.
Nick was also doxxed and literally had people flood his house
>>753650Trvke.
Also, fascism is a misleading description of the modern reactionary milieu: the fascists as a nationalist grift from the revolutionary socialist movement were much more progressive than the vulgar alt-right-wingers of today. They were more "left" than modern social-democrats on most economic issues. Trump is a snake-oil salesman who has neither the intelligence nor the integrity to be a fascist, Fuentes is a frustrated little boy who could only appeal to those even more pathetic. These putrid samples of bourgeois decadence have little to do with the perverted phenomenon of national-syndicalism. This is not to say they should not be combated without quarter, but rather that they don't deserve the "honor" of being placed in the same category as the historical traitors to the revolutionary cause because to do so weakens the authentic critique of fascism as workerist cuckoldry in service of the nationalist ideal.
Shooti- Err I mean talking to people strongly seems to work pretty well.
>>753658As far as I can tell the fuentes-groyper crowd has no irl presence to speak of, if anything I'd be more concerned with the Aryan Brotherhood and other peckerwood gangs that actually kill people on a regular basis
>we gotta stop Nick Fuentes fascism guysss!!
How is the US not already fascist or worse?
>>753615Antifascism is the worst product of fascism chud
>>753660There is no fascism in USA
Fuentes being popular is good because he is a faggy retard who sabotages every relationship he has. Getting rid of him might lead to someone competent replacing him.
>>753652and they were correct, look how all of the wholesome chungus social democratic europe is now regressing into fascism
>>753656>just debate fascism away broLMAO
>>753655>the intelligence nor the integrity to be a fascistfascism has been from the start irrationalistic and syncretic, when will you retards stop making fascism to be a super special thing, its simply the bad cop to the liberal good cop
>>753667>irrational and syncreticthat has much more to do with the type of people getting attracted to fascism (lumpen, recidivist males) than fascism itself. You guys have never read about fascism or gentile although i shouldnt be surprised when most fascists never even read about fascism
>>753669>implying "fascism itself" exists as a separate thing from "the type of people getting attracted to fascism"hi mr hegel, can you point me where this "fascism itself" is and how do you study it
>>753632>Why is ACP in the thumbnail? Apart from not being catholic and opposing American imperialism, they basically want the same things as him.Narcissism of small differences
>>753670lad if we want to play that game i can easily say that Communism is just an ideology of weirdo queer university students who use it as a vehicle for self affirmation and gossip because thats 80% of online communists now. There is a reason why we constantly obsess over the division of theory vs praxis
>>753670as chud anon said, read Gentile:
https://dn721506.ca.archive.org/0/items/giovanni-gentile-english-translation/Origins%20And%20Doctrine%20Of%20Fascism%20-%20Giovanni%20Gentile.pdfIf you can't make a coherent critique of historical fascist ideology it just looks stupid spamming the word to describe any reactionary State ideology which disregards Human Rights™
>>753615omg just fucking kill the faggot
>>753673>If you can't make a coherent critique of historical fascist ideologyThat's boring and unnecessary. It failed in practice after running out of hype moments and aura.
>>753672What are you even talking about?
>>753673>If you can't make a coherent critique of historical fascist ideologyWhy waste time making a "coherent critique" of fascist """ideology""" when its a bunch of schizoslop they make up and change as they see fit? If you want to le stop fascism you need to change the material base from which it grows out again and again in all of its different forms and shades from Hitler to Pinochet to Trump: capitalism.
>spamming the word to describe any reactionary State ideologyThats the thing, I don't use it to describe an "ideology", because thats not what it is, I use it to describe a form of goverment and political management, pic related.
>read GentileSorry I'm intersted in material analysis not neohegelian idealism.
>>753676if you want to play the game of "we can easily judge fascism from its fruits", then im sorry to inform you that modern communism failed badly in that test also since most communists today are libs and not even of working class origin
>Why waste time making a "coherent critique" of fascist """ideology""" when its a bunch of schizoslop they make up and change as they see fit? do you think Lenin and Mao basically changing Marx's views to suit their local conditions proof that communism is "schizoslop that they make up and change as they see fit"? or is it theoretical development?
> If you want to le stop fascism you need to change the material base from which it grows out again and again in all of its different forms and shades from Hitler to Pinochet to Trump: capitalism.you think fascists dont know this? Most of the og fascists had read Marx dumbass, ᴉuᴉlossnW was a former socialist
>I'm intersted in material analysis not neohegelian idealismyou are fundamentally unserious. Hegel and those on the idealist factions did not consider material analysis to be useless or that there is no value in tracing historical development of economic systems as Marx did. Hegel mentioned ideas in the same sense of Spinoza, not in the spiritual sense
>>753636And how do a bunch of disconnected anarchists fight against the military? You couldn't take on a swat team, never mind a platoon or company.
>>753680Trust the plan. General uyghnin is a low-key genius of military strategy. You do not want to play Risk or paintball with this madman unless you like to get pulverized.
>>753679>if you want to play the game of "we can easily judge fascism from its fruits"its not "by its fruits" dumbass, fascism is syncretic and irrationalistic because of its class collaborationist reactionary nature, when I tell you that fascism is not a separate thing from the "people attracted to it" I mean it has a class composition and a historical and material base that grounds it and defines it. You on the other hand think there is a "fascism itself" and that these are just manifestations of this abstract idea.
>do you think Lenin and Mao basically changing Marx's views to suit their local conditions proof that communism is "schizoslop that they make up and change as they see fit"? or is it theoretical development?lmao you think communism and fascism are just two equal ideologies fighting each other in the ether
>you think fascists dont know this? Most of the og fascists had read Marx dumbass, ᴉuᴉlossnW was a former socialistI don't understand how does that relate to what I'm saying.
>Hegel and those on the idealist factions did not consider material analysis to be uselessSource? AFAIK Hegel died before "material analysis" as we understand it now thanks to Marx was a thing, so I'm not sure if he was able to "consider" anything about it.
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