/siberia/ - Off-topic

>>765698
Speaking of sports, professional sports should have mandatory contractual limits for individual athletes

Baseball and football are notorious for juicing due to seasoned players losing their edge.

And they make a few million dollars a year

Give some new bloods a chance

Only six years to live as a paid professional athlete. Anymore than that should be considered embezzlement

Adults need to stop comicalizimg children.
Stop talking to them or about them in a constant goofy/light hearted manner
Stop excusing bullying and peer pressure as “youthful antics”

Stop encouraging awkwardness and mediocrity in youth as “natural/essential”

It’s become too disturbingly common to live like losers through one’s teens, twenties, and thirties

that everyone should have a gun. And not just any gun, either an AK or an Armalite

>>765722
I think gun control should be globally enforced for both criminals and law-aniseed.
People will be forced to throw hands or use slingshots or crossbows.

Guns are too noisy and messy and often don’t hit accurate

Perkonkrusts was kinda based, except for the free capitalism part

>>765724
Who or what are perkonkrusts

>>765726
Latvian pagan political party that hated Abrahamic religions. But then it got banned.

>>765732
Abrahamic religions have become the genericized definition of religion.
It’s especially annoying how Judaism and Christianity acts like they themselves have invented morality and ethics

Daylight savings should be abolished
What’s the point of setting the clock forward one hour to enjoy an extra hour of sunlight at the end of the day?
At six am, it’s still pitch black
You lose an hour of sleep which raises heart attack probability.
Also, the earth naturally tilts more toward the sun during the summer which means your part of the world enjoys more sunlight so setting your clocks forward an hour is pointless

>>765737
They just forgot about their own atrocities

>>758769
It's the genetic thing that bugs me about racism. Like it's okay to treat a totally integrated, assimilated people like wild animals.
>don't matter how prim and proper they act… they got that black/jew/brown blood in 'em and they will revert back to their baser instincts as soon as they can. Never trust them.

I hate that shit. I've worked with far too many exemplary people who didn't live up to any of the stupid stereotypes you hear about.
Nothing about racism makes sense to me as an American. Because every American, regardless of race or religion or any of it, is on an equal playing field of sorts. They're working with me or living near me or otherwise in the same world. And we get along. And there's no reason for me to be suspicious that underneath the skin they are somehow different than me. It's not true.

>>758764
>That browns and blacks are far more mysoginistic and homophobic
I like how Whiteoids legalized gay marriage in the last 10 years and then they use it as a pretext to invade the whole world because they haven't legalized it yet.
Not legal in the wholesome gay nation of Israel either but that doesn't stop them from massacring "people in the name of love" to spread it.


>Misogynistic
Bullshit too. I hear White people all the time talking about hating women and never from all the third worlders I know.

>>765810
Look at that too. South Africa legalized gay marriage 16 years before Switzerland.

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/south-africa-legalises-gay-marriage-idUSL30688368/
>South Africa on Thursday legalised gay marriage, the first country to do so on a continent where homosexuality is widely taboo.
>"Acting President Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka has signed into law the Civil Union Act 2006," the presidency said in a statement, adding that the new law was effective immediately.
>The low-key signing of the new law reflected political sensitivities over gay marriage, which conservative and religious groups have declared immoral and out of step with African tradition.
>Mlambo-Ngcuka signed the bill in the absence of President Thabo Mbeki, who is on an official trip to Nigeria and thereby avoided putting his name to a law >which has raised hackles even within his ruling African National Congress.
>Gay rights groups were elated with the step, which puts South Africa among only a handful of nations worldwide to recognise same-sex unions.
>"We see this as a victorious movement for the gay and lesbian community in South Africa, especially in a continent that is still scornful towards homosexuals," said Vista Kalipa, media coordinator of the Triangle Project, a group dedicated to fighting gay discrimination.
>"We hope that other countries in Africa will actually begin to see this as a positive thing, reaffirming that homosexuality is indeed African."


>>758755
>what is your chuddest belief?
Let me contribute: White people lack the powers of self-reflection and introspection which is why it impossible to overcome their own prejudices. They pickup prejudices and never once ask themselves if it's based on any kind of reality. "Blacks and Browns are more homophobic and misogynistic than Whites, you know it! I know it! Everyone knows it!"

Hey Siri when did Switzerland legalize woman's suffrage and how many African nations did it before them?

Lolicon is pedophilic
>pornography (fictional and real) has different effects on the brain than violence; violence does not alter the brain long-term, while pornography does. Pornography reinforces fantasies, including pedophilic one in the case of lolicoom
>"pixels on a screen" is a retarded argument, what about a OLED screen makes you wanna jerk off? It's what colors and organization the pixels are in (in this case, resembling a little child)
>>759196
What he said, lolicon is pedophilic

>>758755
I think gun ownership is pretty cool, but I'm not so unhinged that I'd buy into something like
>some gun deaths are justified so we can have 2A/gun rights

>>758764
I am brown and I say that you're right, us browns are wonned kek

>>758755
Laws will fail to deliver justice every single time. If you think a court system, especially a bourgeois court system could ever deliver justice by killing or punishing a bad person unless entirely unintentionally, you are just too immature to be involved in political matters.

Is it practical? No. Anywhere there is groups of people, there is courts and laws. Doesn't necessitate a punishment oriented judiciary however. Trust me, it pains me to put on a facade of liberalism as if i give two shits about the people in prison or on death row. I don't care about THEM, i care about undermining a systemic oppressive tool by which it satisfies the blood lust or retards
>(you)
and actively makes my life worse having to navigate the habits and cultures of people I know I'm better than and pray I'm not on the wrong side of laws i never agreed too. On that note, I think in a metaphysical sense everyone who wants to be in prison is so. deep down the evilist offenders have more in common with you than me. They crave structure and formalities so they need the very system that oppresses them. That's why prisoners don't escape, don't just stab everyone, don't strap bombs to themselves before a guilty verdict goes official.

Y'all are just children who need daddy to spank someone, anyone. Siblings, mommy, you, it doesn't matter. You would rather have drunk crazed daddy beating everyone than think "you know what? Maybe all of this is bullshit" and i figured that out the moment someone who wasn't a bad person in my eyes was ever in court for anything. Like Krista Pike. Why is this stunning gorgeous woman on death row but Elon Musk isn't? Even if Elon Musk was on death row, it wouldn't undo the fact Krista is to die soon instead of living a long and happy life, bouncing on my dick.

It therefore makes more sense to reduce the credibility of laws as a whole than fixate on reforms to try and make it palpable. Turns out it was the tankies who were liberal all along. Amogus…

>>770402
None. That's the thing. The very idea of large scale social interaction is doomed to failure. The larger the scale of men, the more diminutive his own light becomes tirelessly trying to appease others morals and concerns when he never can. Mankind hates themselves and one another. It is only through individual self reflection and a relationship with God they can have any sense of peace or principles.

To even ask for an alternative is to implicitly imply you want to somehow make it work. I don't want it to work. I am opposed to the very concept. My "alternative" is total destruction of all things industrial and collective, people live in fucking mud huts I guess and rape other vaguely feminine looking monkey men who don't even know what a cousin or gender is acting purely on instinct to reproduce which in itself ultimately leads us back here.

Like look at the other thing debate about lolicon and child porn. Stepping aside from the obvious fact it's about whether or not depictions of sexualized cartoon minors is directly proportional to evidence of actual trauma inducing assaults on real individuals, the fact is you can't have a reasonable argument with these people. They've already made up their minds. The gooners wish to goon, the whiny ahh fun police wishes to police. Neither side will think about
>Well WHY does pedophilia exist? It serves no evolutionary purpose, or does it???

Like did it ever once occur to the people so obsessed with cracking down on cp to get to the bottom of what makes someone a pedophile? Were they just born that way or did something happen? What is their rationality behind this fixation and fetishizing of children? But such questions require a sense of stoic superiority they can't let themselves feel.

They just wanna be mad for it's own sake. They don't actually want to end anything and won't. The child porn will continue be it cartoons or real thing, and they won't do shit. They'll cry about it sure, God knows they love banning people and if one of them is a janny will blatantly defame me and say I'm defending the pedos vicariously through pointing out they're a useless mental parasite to themselves and others. But they don't actually wanna rid the world of pedophilia because they don't even want to learn what pedophilia actually is or why it is so. Let alone what would happen if it wasn't so.

Stupid, everyone is just too God damn stupid for communism. They don't deserve it. They deserve to suffer. They WANT to suffer. I hate them.

>>770399
>>770417
just being an edgelord for the sake of it? none of this makes sense to me, from any political perspective.
>the judicial system always fails because […] it can be used to satisfy the blood lust of retards
what about when it was used to put away richard "the night stalker" ramirez, ted bundy, or any of the other freaks of nature who committed evil acts and were rightfully institutionalized? I do agree that the judicial system can sometimes produce abortions of justice, but just because that is the case doesn't mean we should allow actual perpetrators of crime to go unpunished.
>and because I have to abide by laws I never agreed to
don't you think the criminals believe the same exact thing? in fact, is that not what a crime is? it's you willfully making the statement, through your actions, that you do not believe in the functionality of that law, and thus you don't believe you ought to be restricted by it?
>plus everyone who is in prison actually wants to be there on some level
>that's why they committed crimes, and that's why they don't try to escape
>they crave structure and formalities
yeah well now you're just saying that everyone who was ever convicted of something is subhuman, and although a great deal of them may very well be, there's no way that every single person who was wrongfully indicted deserves is actually guilty and deserving of punishment. you even go on to admit this yourself with krista pike. I don't know her story so I'm not going to comment on it, but you use her as an example to make the point that
>Y'all are just children who need daddy to spank someone
and to that I can acknowledge that there's a sort of "gawker's economy" built around how punitive justice is doled out, but I don't think the law itself exists to satiate rulings from a kangaroo court of onlookers, at least not most of the time.
<what do you suggest as an alternative
>nothing
so you just want unfettered anarchy without allowing people to have any ability to levy punitive charges against criminals? how is that any different from a "might makes right" mentality?
>I don't want it to work
you're just being emotional, I think.
>pedophilia
why does any philia exist? a variety of developmental, environmental, and psychological factors, as well as lived experiences. however, isn't that sort of inconsequential when simply arriving at the conclusion that pedophilia ought to be addressed in some manner for the sake of keeping children safe from abuse?

>>770426
I'm saying the exact opposite of might makes right in that the human condition longs for might to make right and it cannot. Physically.
Only once in a while do the people we want to see negatively impacted by law and order are so, making it wholly useless at best, contrary to our own gain at worst. It'd be far better to do just have Ted Bundies and Night stalkers running around. Both of which were very good people and very bases individuals if you ask me. In fact did you know Ted Bundy was Mormon? John Wayne Gacy was Catholic. That's a whole other subject matter though if the method acting of their serial murder had any bearing from their religious upbringing or views.

Interesting stuff and you're getting defensive having to turn your brain off as me being an edge lord rather than just not taking part in this facade over an argument neither of us has any bearing on anyway. You're the one defending a system that gave you no say in the matter. I didn't do shit to you, but you're mad at me, you don't see what a clown that makes you? Really?

Your pearl clutching moralism doesn't make Elon Musk any deader or Krista Pike any more alive nor are you in a position to pull some levers to make it so. Therefore defending it, AT ALL is dumb and reactionary.

I believe that all Abrahamic """religions""" should be replaced by Dievturiba in Latvia.

>>758755
nationalism is not always bad

spirituality and religion is not always bad

the porn industry is mostly pure evil (not a prude or against erotica in general tho)

the satanic panic was a psyop and ritual abuse is real

african americans today have serious narcacism issues and not enough solidarity when it comes to the third world

cries of moral panics are often ironically moral panics in and of itself

idc if its drawn if your into loli/feral shit then you have issues

staying fit is good

>>770490 also a lot of coprate wokeness is lame and a lot of crt and dei sucks (nothing against them in it and themself) the frankfurt school is also overated (not to entirely dismiss them)

>>770490
The last two are not “chuddy” at all.
Also what do you mean by:
>cries of moral panics are often ironically moral panics in and of itself

Lastly, the “narcissism” of the Yankee negro community is really just being obnoxious due to ghettofab culture

>>770432
There’s an ironic urban myth printed by conservatives that atheism/secularism breeds serial killers.

>>770388
If loli on is pedophilic than furry is zoophilic.
Also I don’t buy that violence doesn’t have the same severity of effects as porn.
Violence is normalized so much that any sort of social physical apparatus used to avoid violence is decried as cowardice

People glorify suffering/tribulation as subconscious jealousy of the more prosperous.

>>770617
unfortunately there are self proclaimed "lolicon leftists" would disagree as for my point about moral panics its mostly about the wave of annoying milenials complaning about how gen z is "prudish" and "puriteens" without getting into why thats the case besides quick dismial of any of their concern as just "right wing induced moral panic" and lastly the part about african americans is mostly about how often i see black people often dismiss systemic unjustice against other peoples in other places outside of america and often support the forcecs carrying it due to low brow campism often applying american racial contexts on other places where the situation may be diffrent you know? you dont see many groups like the black panthers among the modern african american community today with a lot of their politics either falling into some hotep silliness or just mainstream liberalism but with a pinch of the asthetic of radicalism (you can see this with black liberals with mlk profile pics on twitter complaning aobut how people didn't vote for kamala hard enough or how palestinians are racist towards blacks and thus deserve no symphaty that kind of rubish)

>>770621
>If loli on is pedophilic than furry is zoophilic
I know you're mostly making a point about loli, but I am going to change the subject a bit: I really don't get why people say furry has zoophilic tendencies. If I'm sexually attracted to a human person, no one would accuse me of being sexually attracted to other primates (the less evolved form of humans), but if I'm sexually attracted to an anthropomorphic wolf, people could accuse me of being sexually attracted to real wolves (the less evolved form of anthro wolves).
I get why people would make the comparison when they first learn of the concept of furries. but the argument that furry is similar to zoophilia doesn't seem to hold much weight at all

(Forgot to greentext, also funny 621 number

>>770821
Never cared about any made up art fetish in the net and i think most drama over this is born out of the lack of thick skin and ability to just ignore what you don't want to consume thus wants to be coddled but let me break down for you from a angle.
>If I'm sexually attracted to a human person, no one would accuse me of being sexually attracted to other primates
a human is a primate but not every primate, its a bad comparison.
>but if I'm sexually attracted to an anthropomorphic wolf, people could accuse me of being sexually attracted to real wolves
what is an anthromorph(humanization), and what is a wolf(animal), it's still a wolf(animal), no matter how you change it, it may not exist or look like a wolf but it still a wolf either way, you aren't attracted to the human bits but the animal ones.

>>770782
> unfortunately there are self proclaimed "lolicon leftists" would disagree as for my point about moral panics its mostly about the wave of annoying milenials complaning about how gen z is "prudish" and "puriteens" without getting into why thats the case besides quick dismial of any of their concern as just "right wing induced moral panic"

Tbh, loli was hated even by millennials
Everything millennials complain about Gen Z doing, they themselves did the same thing.
But there is moral panic about shota and loli that’s been raging on.
Irony is, most lolishota art isn’t based on reference photos of exploited children

> and lastly the part about african americans is mostly about how often i see black people often dismiss systemic unjustice against other peoples in other places outside of america and often support the forcecs carrying it due to low brow campism often applying american racial contexts on other places where the situation may be diffrent you know?

Ya I see that.



>you dont see many groups like the black panthers among the modern african american community today with a lot of their politics either falling into some hotep silliness

“Modern” is anything within the past two to five centuries relative to the early twenty-first century.
Also, the “hotep silliness” you speak of is the Afro-American Nation of Islam nonsense that started in urban black neighborhoods in the 1950s and 60s. It was a cultural force behind the more eclectic sub genre of soul music known as “progressive soul/R&B” along with jazz poetry (the precursor of rap music)

The black American Nation Of doesn’t even observe real Islamic holidays.
They’re not accepted as genuine amongst the general Muslim community

There’s a difference between a black American who is a Muslim and that Hotep nonsense


>or just mainstream liberalism but with a pinch of the asthetic of radicalism (you can see this with black liberals with mlk profile pics on twitter complaning aobut how people didn't vote for kamala hard enough or how palestinians are racist towards blacks and thus deserve no symphaty that kind of rubish)

That’s funny because most black liberals are pro-Palestine and even think Harris would’ve helped the Palestinians

>>770821
You’re being hypocritical.
How can you say furry isn’t zoophikic but think loli is pedophilic?
A lot of lolishota art doesn’t even have the characters dress as infants nor are they in proportions to actual children

>>770824
I just want to see this from someone else's perspective
>a human is a primate but not every primate, its a bad comparison.
i should've been more specific, I meant other primate species that aren't humans, such as chimps and monkeys.
>it's still a wolf(animal), no matter how you change it
What do you mean by that? I think taking a wolf and giving it all the characteristics of a human being would completely and utterly change how we interact with them in all aspects of life. No reasonable person would see a verbal, cloth-wearing, tool-using, math-doing, human-sized bipedal wolf and treat it as if it was just a regular wolf. What do you mean it's still a wolf either way?
>you aren't attracted to the human bits but the animal ones.
Now, this can definitely be true, but it's not always. There is some nuance to this. Firstly, one might be attracted to a piece of anatomy sexually or non-sexually. For example, in the case of human females, one might be sexually attracted to: breasts, ass, wide hips, narrows waist and shoulders. While also being attracted non-sexually to other features such as hair or skin color.
The same applies to anthros, Most anthros are depicted as sharing the same sexual characteristics as humans. So in the case of anthro females, one would be sexually attracted to the human sexual features (breast, wide hips, etc). While the animal bits (fur, tail, etc) are secondary features that one might be non-sexually attracted to, the equivalent of hair/skin color for humans.
But there are lots of furries who do prefer animal sexual features (animal genitalia, for example), in those cases your point is totally valid.

>>770866
>How can you say furry isn’t zoophikic but think loli is pedophilic?
I never said anything about loli

>>770866 i never claimed that black americans who are muslims are the same as hoteps?

>>770906
Retvrned
>What do you mean by that?
think about it these way, why are you even there, beating off to the furry character and not a human male/female character, it's the differences from them, that are the animal characteristics, the wolf in the anthromorphic wolf.
>No reasonable person would see a verbal, cloth-wearing, tool-using, math-doing, human-sized bipedal wolf and treat it as if it was just a regular wolf.
but it's not about being reasonable, these types of arguments to fetish shit is to prove a point that I'm correct.
>Now, this can definitely be true, but it's not always.Firstly, one might be attracted to a piece of anatomy sexually or non-sexually. For example,
> The same applies to anthros, Most anthros are depicted as sharing the same sexual characteristics as humans.
there is the thing, this is the same as calling a loli 9000 years old or that they have behaviour or physical characteristics that children don't have, in the end it's anthromorphization of what ?, an animal, a wolf it doesn't matter if they are anthromorphic, have neon fur or even aliens, that's what they are and you are weird for beating to what is an animal stapled with human bits.

I think homosexuality is wrong. That's about it really.

>>770921
Ok fair point.
I just wanted to clarify because Afro American Nation Of Islam is the main cultural image of Black Muslim hood in the west

>>770906
Fair point

People who think men are disposable gender usually deify women as psychosexual objects.
They don’t bother view women as people outside of their social assignment of beauty and “empathy”

Hardships don’t make you a better person.
People say it does to out of spite towards children growing up with new amenities

>>770948
By “homosexuality is bad” do mean “man x man is gross, woman x woman is hot”?

>>770621
>furry is zoophilic
What does furry stuff have to do with any of this? Red herring alert
>violence doesn't have the same severity of effects as porn
Read picrel, although it is not about loli, it still brings pretty good points about pedophilic digital media

>>771771
This morality poser should be applied to violent media then

>>771771
By this same logic, most sexual fetishes should be classified the same way.
Violent media should be classified the same way.
Alot of violent media de hyperrealistic graphics engines and there's mods of violent games

>>771777
Most sexual fetishes that arent paraphilias that is

threads like these are bad because they just become a contest to prove who is the biggest pizza cutter

>>771923
True.

>>758755
Plato was right: Theater is evil. Of course that includes movies, television, and video games.

>>771844
doesn't matter.

Jeez. Never thought one of my beliefs (that I posted anonymously) would derail this thread this much. Anyways, here's a few more of my beliefs:
>ZOG is correct ONLY in denotation (dictionary meaning, it literally means "Zionist occupied goverment"). There are a lot of zionists in the government (AIPAC). But however, the Jews do not control any media or other material being broadcasted by the government. Quite simply, I believe that the only reason why ZOG exists is not to serve Israel's needs, but ameriKKKa's need for imperialism, as Israel is an important tool for ameriKKKa in the middle east, and the middle east has a lot of GOOD OIL that ameriKKKa needs. For ameriKKKa, no israel == no oil
>life imprisonment is okay, some people are actually threats to society and keeping them in prison for too little is not enough time to resolve thing. Why have someone flip flop from incarcerated to "free" in just a few months (while still committing crimes) when you can just put them in prison for a long time (which will prevent them from committing any crimes against society)
>>758755
Life is too short, why end it there?

>>771923
Me. Literally the face I'm making right now at the whole ten dollar Iranian taco box deal.
>So basically Amerikkka will owe a bunch of money to Iran to rebuild
So it's just like world war 1…
>Even though trump is gonna butcher federal funding and allocate it all to the military
So it's just like world war 1…
>Paving the way for real fascism, not incompetent post feudal toddler tantrums and the middle class will eat it up
SO IT'S JUST LIKE WORLD WAR 1…
The thing is it's not as cool as world war 1, and I guarantee the fascistic crackdowns on leftists, LGBT, the wrong type of Christians will somehow be gayer than the Nazis and black shirts were despite how everyone will swear up and down the fascism has ended. Republicans have class again, democrats will pretend to be saviors and didn't do shit

I wanted at least a lot more people to die and see dumb dumb veterans come back looking like chicken nuggets before saying Charlie Charlie Kirkie defined you as a domestic terrorist

Society is using the “brain development “ theory to justify extended adolescence