Political implications of apple imagination?
I see nothing, just feel the very basic apple vibe and flavor. If you give me a detailed description of a specific apple I can imagine it though.
im a shitty gpu. i can process 1 thing very well but if you ask me to imagine a place, room, person, etc i have trouble forming that image
I see 5 (just dark red / black), but I can have vivid dreams. This is a shitty test.
How does this puzzle work? I wanna try
This is fake right? Every human being should be capable of 1. You should be capable of creating a photorealistic image on an apple in your mind and also able to rotate it and imagine eating it or cutting it.
>>774585Retards obsessed with autism score will use this and other things as some sort of sapience test. Visualizing in your mind's eye is a skill you can practice and learn but we don't really teach it as a culture so there's a wide spectrum people fall into based on their life. Even in cases of extreme aphantasia brain scans have shown that individuals have the same portions of the brain light up involved in spatial understanding despite not seeing whatever problem they're working on in their head. The ramifications are essentially zero.
>>7745851 but much better.
>>774589> Every human being should be capable of 1No actually youre probably a minority in this
>>774593>wasn't a bad thing but then i realized that people without one often think and read faster than me.Same experience.
>>774585So what it's just what an apple looks like if you imagine it?
>>774590for a while it was a thing on tiktok bc people on that website are obsessed with feeling superior to ithers for whatever reason. this generation is fucked
>>774589It takes a lot of concentration for me.
I am much more auditory than visual. If I read a book, I can get a strong mental visual of the people and places in it, as long as it gives good descriptions. But "an apple" is just a vague concept without a lot of adjectives. My brain does not imagine any unspoken details.
I'm in a grocery store. Produce section. I pick up an apple, it's medium-dark red with a shine on the skin. Few imperfections, just some sparse green spots. Tall and tapered in shape. Seems to be a red delicious. This one doesn't have a stem. I feel a soft spot on the side and decide to put it back for another.
THAT description gives me a decent visual.
>>774585I'm convinced the apple thing is a psy-op and people are just really bad at describing their own thoughts.
>>774598It’s like imagining children don’t have emotions because they don’t have the vocabulary necessary to describe them
>>774597Oh you're autistic, you are now breathing manually, you are now blinking manually, you are now swallowing saliva manually.
>>774597You realize you can see a little bit of your nose all the time. You are now manually holding your jaw up. You forgot to blink. In which spot does your tongue go in your mouth?
Do you feel the muscles in your fingers? Are your palms dry?
>>774597Solar plexus clown glider
>>774597You just lost The Game
>>774597Clear your throat
>>774589>Every human being should be capable ofsome people don't even have an inner monologue, don't get your hopes up
>>774605that's the only one that worked
>>774598>>2784166It is 100% this. OPs graph itself is confusing and absurd because mental images don't "look" like or don't work like actual real images (that's why dreams don't make sense) so people get confused saying "well I can't ACTUALLY see a REAL apple in my mind, therefore I have a degree of aphantasia" when in reality they "see" pretty much the same thing as everyone else. The graph makes it seem as if it's some kind of image resolution issue even, like are do you have a modern PC mind eye or a Playstation 1 mind eye lol
I think the inner monologue thing is different, as I'm sure some people don't have one turned on all the time or even most of the time. I'm more certain of that one because I've found that after meditating or being really relaxed mine turns off too, so I'd wager less anxious people just feel that silence most of the time. However, I'm equally esceptic of the idea of being incapable of conjuring inner monologue at will. That is just as absurd as the apple thing. If someone were literally unable to think words to themselves, they would be unable to do normal things like singing. Like, where are those predetermined pronounced words coming from if you can't make them up in your head beforehand?
>>774585I've never looked into the study that reported this or the theories it's drawing from but I'm 99% sure that the way people talk about it on the Internet is a wild misinterpretation or misreading because that is simply the case with every bit of "science" the Internet likes to parrot.
>>774624no clue but this reminds me of how pat from sbfp (old e-celeb don't worry about it) once said that whenever he imagines a song in his head, he hears his own voice doing all the parts. makes me cackle whenever i remember it
>>774624I have constant musical hallucinations, but they're mono, not stereo.
Is that a 1 or a 2?
>>774630I wish I had musical hallucinations, half the time I get phantom phone calls and have since I was a kid
>>774624I can play music in my head like an MP3 player, its not as stimulating as hearing it for real, I like to blast music real loud into my earbuds
>>774651If I go deaf then so be it, there is no better way to listen to music then experience the full resonance with volume enhancers cranked up at the acceptable limit of the song being legible to the original
>>774585I can imagine a realistic apple but if someone told me to think of an apple I'd think of a stylized / clip art kind of apple. Terminal computer and animation brain.
>>774585It's bullshit because it cannot be empirically verified.
>>774585can yall uyghas really not imagne things? how do you even live?
>>774620I don't think the internal monologue thing is real either. It's just some people can describe it and some can't. There definitely is a spectrum of imagination though which can be affected through schooling. If children are encouraged to think for themselves and engage in art and practical activities, they will be able to visualise the apple better, or if they write fiction then the internal monologue will develop pretty much on its own since it's necessary for writing.
>>774589>>774590>Every human being should be capable of 1>Visualizing in your mind's eye is a skill you can practicecheck your imagination privileges, chvds
best I can do is involuntary hallucination, which happened for a while when I got on SSRIs
>>774600Funny how this doesn't work with "you are now living manually". Your life is not your own like your breath is.
>>774624Bro ive got entire music albums stored in my head with perfect tempo and pitch and polyphony and everything. I often dream about playing music while sleeping.
People don't know how to listen to music anymore. It is a skill that can be taught in childhood but somehow adults are stuck the way they are. For example my ex gf simply couldn't "mentally hear" two instruments together (e.g. piano and violin playing at the same time). I told her
>You can whistle the violin part, yeah? Yeah. You can do the same with the piano part, yeah? Yeah. Now put the two together in your head."That's impo
ssible."
Why are we
>>774680That's the limitation of empiricism. Just because empiricism has a limited scope of applicability it doesn't mean everything outside its domain is "bullshit" or nonexistent. You have terminal anglo-brain if you don't understand this.
>>774627If human beings were cars, Pat would be the most broken rusted lemon piece of shit ever
>>774680>because it cannot be empirically verified.It literally can tho.
>>774785Souls and other metaphysical bullshit doesnt exist.
>>774806Your qualia is real, yet empirically problematic, to say the least. Without it you wouldn't be able to do empirical rrsearch either.
>>774806Yeah, it can be empirically verified by your own subjective judgement but it cannot be compared to other people.
>>7746241, can play whole ass songs in my head
>>7745851 or 2 depending on what I'm thinking about
>>774680i have a vivid imagination and I think it is actually highly disadvantageous in some situations.
>>775022sorry this was meant for
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