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Can we all admit that American Christianity is a capitalist bastardization of Christianity and not what Christianity was meant to be? Like yeah religion is the “Opium of the people” and all that but it was originally all about that After-School-Special “Sharing is caring” and “Don’t be greedy give to the needy” type shit. It’s a fact that Jesus existed, I don’t believe he was the son of food or anything, he was probably crazy but he was historically progressive. Like if you listen to the average Burgeroid who thinks that Trump is the second coming of Jesus and compare that person to some Catholic, Boomer, Sugar farmer in Cuba it is like night and day. This is why I hate when I see Reddit-Atheists here who bash Christianity as a whole when really the problem is Conservative-Christianity, state repression of religion failed in socialist states that tried it so pointing out fake Christianity is a better method.

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Because other Christianity is not fake? You know there's no god, right?

my god thinks my jokes are funny

>>776397
Of course there is no God! Yeah it is a delusion but the more you tell it to people so aggressively the more they believe it because humans work that way. You gotta stick to what works and State religious repression doesn’t work, that’s why Eastern Europe is more religious than Western Europe.

>>776395
>I don't believe he was the son of food or anything
then why them preachers be tryna get me to eat the 'body and blood of christ' every damn sunday? fr man like damn.
>the problem is conservative christianity
nah dawg, religion really do be "opium of the masses" aka a tool of political control. always was. it's why wars were fought in the name of god, and really, continue to be to this day.

plus, god ain't even real. yeah I'm an atheist, suck it religitards. but, look, I'm reasonable, alright? I think you should be able to practice your religion, it's just that I think we should live in a society in which religion is perceived as some weird spiritual version of pokemania. I don't want political policy to be wrought out of reading tea leaves, or horoscope readings, or other crazy bullshit, so why should it be ok for our politicians to openly admit to basing their entire worldview and political actions on equally crazy bullshit?
>b-but religion and pokemon aren't at all alike!!!
dawg, please do open your eyes, like damn. pokemania was huge, and kids slobbered all over everything pokemon. it was a cultural phenomenon. well, guess what? religion is the same shit. do you really mean to tell me that people 600+ years ago wouldn't be fawning over pokemon cards if they had 'em back then? you lyin' to yourself dawg. people would be fighitng ideological wars over which starter pokemon do be the best, with whole religions built around that shit.

that's basically what religion originally was, just the world's most autistic fanbases fighting actual wars over their OCs and which ones were better. that they've endured to this day is just a testament to the level of enthusiasm people have when they're really invested in something.

>>776403
>then why them preachers be tryna get me to eat the 'body and blood of christ' every damn sunday? fr man like damn.
That was probably the most embarrassing typo I ever made with autocorrect
>nah dawg, religion really do be "opium of the masses" aka a tool of political control. always was. it's why wars were fought in the name of god, and really, continue to be to this day.
Again it conservative religion, people also use religion to advocate for non-violence

In 100 years the whole world will be atheism, even if the revolution doesn't happen. All trends point to increasing atheism and irreligion worldwide, even in deeply religious countries like Saudi Arabia and Brazil.

>>776407
thats assuming we continue to progress, regression is always possible

>>776408
So you were lying when you said you weren't an atheist, Socrates?

The problem is that then you fall into a no-true-Scotsman fallacy where you have to evaluate every Christian creed based on some “pure Christianity” that never existed as before the formation of the Catholic Church you had various Christian sects with differing and often conflicting interpretations of the Bible, like the conflict between Monophysites and miaphysites which, although trivial to us, were taken by pre-modern Christians so seriously that it is said that the early Arab conquest of the Levant was largely possible thanks to the monophysites siding against the imperial Easter Roman Church at Constantinople.

And let’s not forget how the oldest physical inscription of Jesus Christ is derived from a marcionite church, and marcionites are deemed by mainstream Christians WORLDWIDE to be heretics on the account of their negation of the trinity and Christ’s physical nature (in contradiction with the Nicene creed and the council of Trent that affirms Christ’s dual divine-mortal nature and the trinity as interpolated from certain biblical passages).

So while I don’t think it’s productive on talking about what does and doesn’t count as “true meaning of Christianity”, it would be worthwhile to talk about how the average reactionary DGAF about the Christian faith, and instead simply projecting their own reactionary politics into Christianity, which is why “faithful Christians” will focus on culture war BS and divorce and other social issues, but never talk about debt jubilees and other relatively progressive aspects of the Bible.


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