Now that the dust has settled, why did Jeffrey Epstein launch a culture war against her? What made him so mad the chinless echoes of his crusade still resonate on internet today?
Shes anti-zionist and Pro Palestine, next question.
>>780214>was right all alongshe most certainly wasn't.
>>780223Is this supposed to be good or bad?
>>780226i mean bad obviously? neonazism is mainstream. of course communism is also a bit more mainstream but that would have happened anyway.
the 'fucking white males' strategy horribly backfired, if we don't assume it was intended to do what it did
>>780227She said something tame about Mario saving Peach being a reflection of our gendered patriarchal society or some shit like that I'm pretty sure, and the chuds lost their shit and waged a culture war with pedo billionaires backing, it's a psyop and you fell for it
>>780233nah she said a lot more crazy/dumb shit than that, and yeah it was a psyop, i dont deny, she was part of the psyop
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>>780233here, have a video that examines her dissertation, it's quite interesting and insightful, elucidating the sort of nonsense she believes.
feminism is idpol which should just go away. not to say that all of it is worthless, but she's not a great representative of the sorts of ideas that reasonable people would agree with or want to disseminate in a broader cultural context.
>>780223The SJW matured into a communist and the anti-SJW /pol/ retard stated a retarded nazi, and I'm supposed to think the SJW lady was the bad guy?
>>780244I didn't say the poltard was the good guy, my point is SJWs led directly to anti SJWism which has had abysmal consequences, we should have seen the people crying about how straight white males are evil at the snakes they are, the vile fucking fed wreckers, all idpol peddlers should be strangled
>>780214I was around before gamergate. There was a constant background of hatred towards women on imageboard spaces for a while before it popped off.
It's just a natural consequence of how things are. Women do, on average, have better outcomes in education and at the start of their work life now. And both objectively and subjectively, guys have to ask: will they ever get to the part where they are better off? What's this bullshit about the patriarchy then? What privilege if they are materially worse off?
Of course, there is an answer to that: this is exactly why there was no feminism in the Soviet Union. If you in any way separate class analysis from gender analysis, people will just say you are gaslighting them because the hollywood producers you are thinking about are very different from the average working class man who sees this stuff. Men not of the ruling class were just as fucked for all recorded history.
It didn't help that the people who saw it decided it was about them, and that liberal feminists kept saying it was. Both are drama queens.
>>780214Because she is a top tier milf.
you need to stop focusing on this and start focusing on becoming an agp gooner hopelessly lost in lust
>>780256Blaming SJWism for the rise of anti-SJWism is naive in all but a tautological sense. Absent SJWism, they'd just latch on to something else. You can put a band-aid on a wound, but you can't stop the top level trends that lead to the same effects.
You must understand that these groups select for personality. This is why New Atheism cleanly split 50/50 between them: half of them were in it for social justice (became SJWs) and half were in it because they had a pathological need to "win" "arguments" (became SJWs OWNED slop producers)
there are also rationalists, who really really liked longform analysis blogposts, who find themselves wavering between SJWs and Nazis depending on how big a retard Trump is being that day.The people crying about straight white men were open-minded, generally
agreeable neurotics desperately clutching at reasons they felt bad. first they settled on ~50% of the population, which was subpar, but then - eureka! - they hit upon the economic system. The people crying about SJWs were closed-minded, generally
disagreeable neurotics desperately looking for people to get into fights with. they've bounced between the jews, welfare queens, the SJWs, socialists, the SJeWs, communists, cultural marxism, and finally settled on becoming a global Trump cult of one flavor or another, often ironically engaged in "reverse-SJWism" where they argue minorities are oppressing white losers, where twitter users posting bad things about the president is violence, etc.
What you must understand is that the thing underpinning it all is personality. /leftypol/ is the only place on the left that is conflicted about this because it is under two selection effects: selecting both for SJW/leftist "types" (as a left-wing site) and for anti-SJW/rightoid "types" (as it's an imageboard), usually in some kind of incoherent mix. (myself obviously included)
>>780334You can't just say that anti SJW would have happened anyway because of material conditions but then say all politics is about personality. You're massively oversimplifying.
Now yes, sure, the wider global trends quite likely would have pushed us to a similar situation to now, but the SJWs clearly didn't help things. It's conceivable that we may not have got a Trump presidency, or at least not a second one, without them.
I really don't think it's just leftypol that has a problem with manhating on the left either. I get the distinct impression that most men are not comfortable with this kind of rhetoric but are too afraid to say anything about it. I will never understand the kind of men who listen to the misandric shit and be like "you're so right milady, men are truly trash 🥲", have some self respect god. And yes there's still plenty of people out there like this, they definitely haven't all become egalitarian communists.
>>780336Personalities
are material conditions, or at the least are formed by underlying material conditions. If I simplify, it is because the details aren't as relevant as the thrust of the argument.
You overestimate loud but irrelevant factors and underestimate boring ones. SJWs had less than nothing to do with Trump winning in 2016 (He did terribly with young people! The clinton campaign actively helped him get the nomination! Brexit shows that some other underlying cultural force
polarization of voting by age and education was at play, since nobody cares about the social justice implications of a trade bloc!) and very little to do with him winning in 2024*
For all the hype on "Kamala's for they/them", the actual determining factor was overwhelmingly the economy being bad, the same reason almost every incumbent government outside Canada has eaten shit in the last 5 years. "Vote for me and I'll bring back the economy circa 2019" isn't a bad pitch!
(this economic explanation for voting behavior doesn't clash with "politics is about personality" either: a lot of personalities are "apolitical"/swing voters, and don't neatly fit into the leftist/rightist archetypes of the SJW/Nazi dichotomy. What the dichotomy explains is why rightoids in every country love Trump despite him being a lecherous foreigner.)
*I think they were a factor in
business leaders going over to backing Trump, but this speaks to the desirability of SJWism/wokeness as a phenomenon: it was a genuine-bottom up set of demands from workers which firms first tried to buy off with token concessions (not a corporate conjuring trick to distract from class war), then flipped over to endorsing reaction when that failed and when all the various disparate identity struggles realized that since they all felt broadly the same way, there must be something wider at work… like capitalism.
Manhating is its own separate thing. I'll tell you a weird trick, but I doubt it helps: recognize when you aren't being talked about. When someone says "kill all men" because a certain man annoyed them, it's very unlikely they're thinking of you, odds are they've no idea you exist and i all but guarantee they've got no ability to impose harm on you, so why feel it has anything to do with you?
This phenomenon is at its clearest when white people attack "white people." It's because "white people" isn't a meaningful referent in what they say, it's a filler, a joke, a signal to annoy a certain kind of insecure white person, or a face-saving way to attack a group in general. (white transwomen love to say bad things about "white transwomen" because it'd look bad to just say them about transwomen)
It takes a certain lack of self respect to invest in a group identity as generic as "being a man" and it signals a certain lack of other desirable traits to openly complain about it. You don't have to agree with whoever's saying it, you can always avoid them or ignore them.
Besides: insofar as there are still people like that, they're behind the curve on what's cool nowadays. The ones who haven't caught up are losers, and who cares about losers?
There's an underlying essay about all the nuances of social status in the modern world and how the real point of this sort of thing is to filter out low status men, but this post is too long already. she will be forever vindicated. every thing that came out of her mouth was a certified trvthnvke that shook treatlerites to their very core
Because she was a convenient target
>>780215We can all close the thread after this answer
It's insane how right-wingers always end up being useful idiots for the shadowy elite cabal that they claim to oppose.
Absolved by history award 2026 candidates:
>Original BO
>Anita Sarkeesian
Your vote, leftypol?
seems pretty straight forward to me
>be literal bourgeois pedophile sex trafficker that sells underage women as commodities
>random ass feminist commentator starts blowing up saying video games objectify women
>manipulate internet culture in a such a manner that a bunch of alienated NEETs are told they have a binary choice between preachy libs that wanna take your treats away and reactionary grievance politics
>you now have helped perpetuate a culture that makes it slightly easier to be a sex-trafficker and helped spread reactionary brainrot to a new demographic, two birds one stone
I want to know what she thinks about Silksong
>>780244>>780334>>780338How are you still alive? Aren't you supposed to blown your brains out because your internet feminist comrades repeatedly told you that all moids are the problem and you're no different? That's not how male allies behave?
too old
>>786722Exactly the kind of post someone with a bad personality would make, which is a good excuse to expound on another piece of the reason SJWs were exactly right:
You are not open minded or agreeable enough to realize that a statement like "all men are the problem" is a rorschach test, not a literal statement of fact: A loser like you will fail it angrily, objecting how unfair it is that you're fairly being categorized as a problem. Other losers will agree but in a way that makes them look like pathetic sycophants. Cool people will read the room and know how to play it - stay quiet, agree in a status-raising way, disagree in a status raising way, be noncommittal, it doesn't really matter. The bulk of the work comes in gatekeeping losers. (Ironically, the kind of losers who think
they can gatekeep by playing the opposite game and openly signalling their low-status prejudices.)
If you'd read my post you would already know why I wouldn't blow my brains out, even if I was a very sensitive type: I believe that when someone says "all moids are the problem" they are pushing an underlying neuroticism into an object which they can then blame for those problems. If someone was to directly tell me that I am no different, I would brush it off: they certainly don't know enough to make that judgement. I know that I'm different and that the primary group excluded by such statements is a group that I would also like to see excluded: tedious, angry, low-status rightoid men. Hand them over to the SCUM manifesto ladies - it won't cheer them up any, but it'll make my hobby of imageboard posting much better.
>>780256To be fair, there was way less SJW content compared to anti-SJW content. I don't know how it is for you guys in the West, but in my feed, people just milked the same drama for six months straight. The Last of Us 2 was literally living rent-free in the minds of anti-SJWs the entire time.
>>786754spoken like a man who gets laid, every time a women says 'kill all men' to me you can bet we're fucking within a week.
its a shit test, they want to see how you react.
>>786910name 1 man whos getting holocausted by feminists right now
>>786754>The bulk of the work comes in gatekeeping losers. The gatekeeping happens via genetics (physical attractiveness being the biggest). Your entire thesis sounds like immense cope.
>>786918>openly misogynistic men never get laidDo you just live life in a permanent state of copium induced psychosis?
>>786927>openly misogynistic men get to fuck misogynistic right wing womenwow what a observation, too bad I want nothing to do with right wing freaks.
>>786928Lies. If an attractive right wing person wanted to have sex with you, you wont stop them. What's the point of lying like this on the internet. The internet is the one place where you can actually say what you know is true. There's no need to pretend here.
>>786918Literally why I switched to dudes. Foids are not worth the effort and twinks are prettier anyways. Why bow and scrape like a cuck for a crumb of mid pussy when you can just bully a twink and they'll get a boner about it? I see why the ancient Greeks lavished all their attention on them and basically just kept their wives as live in help and didnt let them have any rights. Bichads stay winning.
>>786929Way to miss my fucking point idiot, yes I have had sex with right wing women, right wing women will also have sex with chud men.
If I actually want a relationship though? Not going to be phoning back the right winger, the people I actually want to have consistent relations with are going to shit test you like this to see if you're secretly an incel - its not hard to work out chuddy.
>>786933Im also bi- but that sweet pussy puss is too good.
Also its not that hard to give girls girlboners you gotta non-chalantmax
>>780305>there was no feminism in the Soviet UnionI come back to this site after weeks and the retardium is still pure
>>786936>Im also bi- but that sweet pussy puss is too goodIt honestly doesn't feel any different to me. The only thing I miss about het sex is titties but not enough to put up with the nonsense foids typically demand in exchange. Maybe if I find a freaky chronically online girl that's easy to talk to, but finding the femboy version of that has so far been much easier.
>>786754This anon gets alt baddie pussy at least three times a week
>>786764This anon gets it
>>786910This anon hasn't been in proximity to a vagina since he popped out of one
>>786754Maybe this strategy really does work for getting pussy, but you should still be fucking ashamed of yourself, you're no different from a black guy who hangs out with good ol boys who talk all the time about how they hate uyghurs but you're one of the good ones.
>>786949When did women enslave men into chattel slavery and put them under gender segregation laws? Must've missed that in the history books
>>786949"In the family, he is the black man, the woman represents the racist white man." - Friedrich Engels
>>786952I mean men still get drafted and go die in wars even though we're supposed to have 'equal rights'. Men are worse off in many many ways in the west.
>>786968But yes obviously it's not the exact same situation in terms of context, I can use a different one if you want, how the black guy is Asian instead and the good ol boys are ranting about how they should have wiped out all the gooks in Korea or whatever.
>>786968I asked when they got enslaved and segregated tho
>>786968>still get drafted>in the westWhich country ?
Inb4 youcrine
>>786975Basically all of them have laws that allow them to do this, but yes Ukraine, Vietnam, Russia, plenty of countries that have military service as well but only for men
>>786973They didn't, what's your point? I can easily rephrase the example to not be about black people, it would still be shameful for someone to hang out with others who say "fuck all [your group], they all should die, they're all predators, etc etc"
>>786979I meant the USA during Vietnam, but probably Vietnam itself too whatever
>>786979because historical context matters you jewish rat
>>786985Rude?
Ok sure historical context matters but that doesn't make discrimination and misandry right. No bullshit you can come up with makes 'kill all men' etc a reasonable statement
>>786989If it's said by a government official as a legal statement sure, if it's said by a random woman with 5 shitty exes that is still fine with telling that to you (implying you're one of the good one and shit) you can indulge her, it won't slippery slope into national misandry
>>786991>you can indulge her, it won't slippery slope into national misandryit already has, but also, women would never put up with this the other way round, why should we?
>>786979Any rephrasing of this argument would be pointless because it is retarded idealism. The reason it's not like that is because men are not discriminated against by some other group that holds power over them on the basis of their sex so any comparison to that effect would fall flat on its face
It'd be more comparable to a factory owner denouncing the bourgeois. Basically like Engels
>>786968>men start wars where other men are drafted to die <this is somehow womens faultand the people who suffer the most in war are civilians, not soldiers.
>>786995there's plenty of female warmongers bro.
plenty of western countries have near to 50/50 gender balance in politics too. yeah sure rich men will never suffer from conscription but that's like saying slavery wasn't racist because african kings also participated in it
>>786992Because you're a better person, and it's a useful position to hold
>>786997so women are to blame for wars?
>>787001I know I'm better than most women but explain how it's useful.
>>787003Capital is to blame for wars and women are capital.
>>787003not entirely but in the same way that people say 'men are responsible for wars', yes partly. i'm more pointing to the inequality of the draft rather than war itself though.
>>787005ok so heres your argument so far
men are being oppressed by women like how black people were historically oppressed by white people, because men are drafted to wars started by men but some women are politicians so the blame falls entirely on them
also men are especially oppressed by war even though most of the victims are women and children who will be raped, displaced or killed
>>780234>nah she said a lot more crazy/dumb shit than thati never paid attention to her so maybe provide an example of some cringe
>>787842Well, off the top of my head, I remember her saying that because players can kill women in Hitman, that is an example of misogyny as expressed through gameplay, because it allows players to take pleasure in the act of female mutilation and assault, and can satisfy the sexual lust of predators, or something along those lines. I'm paraphrasing.
She made the dumb argument that there aren't enough female characters in video games that met her arbitrary standards of quality. When people responded by providing examples of female characters they thought weren't just fapbait, she disregarded it entirely. She wasn't hated because she was a woman, or even a feminist; she was hated because she was a poser charlatan who came into a space that she clearly had no interest in occupying for its own sake, and armed with rhetoric that she wanted to disseminate like propaganda. That's all.
>>786949It's more like being a white guy who hangs out with grove street families (e.g. really cool)
>>786918Where the fuck do you live that men need to self-flagellate and constantly agree that Total Moid Death is the only way forward to get dates?
>>780214Because she is a top tier milf.
>>787007Most of the victims in war are the men who die. Look at Ukraine for exemple, civilians death are relatively low compared to millitary ones.
>>780214She was never right, she simply was yet another grifter con-artist trying to make yet another moral panic over video games, just like how Jack Thompson was doing the same thing with GTA; calling it a murder simulator and all of those religious fundamentalists calling Pokemon a "tool of Satan".
SJWs simply were the new secularized serial-numbers filed off version of the religious moral-scold trying to blame everything on video games instead of focusing on material conditions. Seriously, how is simply seeing a minority or LGBT person in some paint-by-numbers TV show that is ultimately done to please the shareholders while giving lip service to their ideas actually going to help minorities and LGBT people with their actual lives when they don't have any jobs or need assistance with the basics of life?
I always thought that her solutions were naive and pointless, due to the fact that corporations are ultimately mercenary on who they support and I couldn't expect a corporation to actually do a good job at representing minorities and women because I knew there were basically in it for the money.
>>791268SJWs always had more in common with religiopolitical conservatives whenever it comes to male psychosexuality
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