Poor people tend to possess bad traits that make them poor, and it should be socially acceptable to have contempt for them over this
>>780712Yes, even if one says free will doesnt exist you still have the feeling of agency as to how reality presents itself to you.
I want to disagree, but my own poverty is result of being a difunctional headcase, so I guess you are right.
What are those contemptible bad traits? Where is the proof (surely you're not just basing this on vibes) that those bad traits are prominent among the poor and not among the rich?
Class war against the poor
>>780719And if you were born wealthy you would likely be able to retain your socioeconomic class because of the various safety nets that accompany wealth. It's the random outcome of being born poor or rich.
>>780729Motherfuckers use this excuse to justify short term bad decision making and poor planning.
>>780751Not an excuse, a normal human reaction to an absurd reality.
>>780751I've managed to save up £85k, that doesn't mean I think meritocracy exists
>>780712t.average user who constantly spams the word "lumpen" at anything they don't like
This. There's no reason why anyone who isn't just a worthless leech on society can't become successful in the modern world. You aren't enslaved, you are responsible for your failures. If you are subjected to poverty and are an adult that means that there are steps you could have taken prior and failed to take, a personal failure. Anybody can become rich, even if its harder for those with less capable parents.
If you can build a business, convince investors to invest in it and manage to keep scaling it then you're set. Don't have enough for a business? Even a small portion invested in stocks can add up if you have the intellect for it. I got started back in high school and turned some saved up $2k into $40k just by holding for years. Anyone smarter than a high schooler, actual desire to escape poverty, time management, and basic intelligence can accumulate enough money to start something small in a good location and move up from there.
>>781421>anyone can become rich<why arent you rich then>B-B-B-B-B-BECAUSE…..have fun losing your money on crypto scams bud
>>781421>>>780771 I got started back in high school and turned some saved up $2k into $40k just by holding for years. Anyone smarter than a high schooler, actual desire to escape poverty, time management, and basic intelligence can accumulate enough money to start something small in a good location and move up from there.
Most people globally don't have academic intelligence beyond eighth grade
>This. There's no reason why anyone who isn't just a worthless leech on society can't become successful in the modern world. You aren't enslaved, you are responsible for your failures. If you are subjected to poverty and are an adult that means that there are steps you could have taken prior and failed to take, a personal failure. Anybody can become rich, even if its harder for those with less capable parents.I half agree with this.
I do agree Leftypol whines too much about porky but to say that anyone can become rich?
The only way for anyone to go rags-to-riches would be to suck up to some petty bourg.
Either as a pink collar work or an escort
>>781447That just proves that there’s not much difference between the classes
>>781452Tbh, a lot of people act like their consciousness is guided by social status
>>781451Solution : Richard and Paula marry and live happily ever after.
>>780751You're not gonna go from poor to rich with good decisions and planning lol, especially not nowadays. At best you can barely keep yourself afloat.
>>781556She isn't interested, classcuck.
>>781435at most you can buy a car 10 years down the line by saving up money, at the end of the day youre still going to waste that money and stay poor
people dont like to accept that their lives are mostly outside of their own control, they'd rather live in a fantasy world instead of coming to terms with a harsh reality
that, or that guy is just middle class and views himself being born to a wealthy family as "merit"
>>781608People already have the notion that their lives aren't under their own control. That's why we have religion
>>781421>>780712Being from a wealthy family i used to believe this until i realized most poor & middle class go-getters, financebros, onlyfan sluts, crypto guys i met were still… barely above what they started as to begin with, even the actually brilliant ones.
Yes it is possible to be better but for 99% it will just amount to more pocket money for when youre old, a living closer to your working place and a slightly better car.
This is what made come to the realization that investing in the commons and infrastructures for the common man was important. Every shithole country and favelas is full of ressourceful entrepreneurs, are they wealthy? Would you like to live with them?
>>781635The biggest irony is, when people are born into abundance they face constant guilt tripping
>>781642You can never feel secure in life. Even if you feel secure in yourself others will often be pushing you towards insecurity and often it's your own family.
>>781645Yep.
Like immigrant parents nagging you for having better amenities than they did or being secular
I'm poor because shit's expensive
>>781536yes. which is why class should be abolished rather than being treated as reflective of one's nature and deserved station in life. thanks for playing.
>>781421btw in the long run you will stop with this free will babble and realize that brains capable of making "smart" "good" "decisions" are just another scarce resource that you either have or you don't.
>>780712>Poor people tend to possess bad traits that make them poornot true but even if it were…
>and it should be socially acceptable to have contempt for them over thiswhen has contempt ever helped people get their act together? if anything it just makes them spiral and get worse. your approach is non rehabilitative. But the first premise was faulty anyway. People are poor for structural reasons.
>>781685This.
Society especially looks down on young people for having struggles
>>781679Class only reflects your money status not your psyche.
People like to preach about how “money doesn’t buy happiness, material things don’t matter, it’s the heart”
And they’re right for the wrong reason.
People are motivated by their desires
Desires don’t always have to be sex and drugs
It can be love or arts and crafts.
You know something?
Poor people don’t want money.
They want to have their desires met.
There’s people that eschew living in a mansion, preferring to live in tents or RVs.
Class only reflects how easy it is to access your desires
>>780712This is how upper class actually thinks.
Notice how the word 'trait' was being used in this context, a vague attribute that also sometimes applies to innate and immutable features. You are posting in a racist threat, btw.
>>781920>racistWhat’s up with his place always making everything about racism and misogyny?
Seriously?
Do you guys have any worldly exposure?
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