>>783050>ofc russia is happy to use them as cannon fodder, but they dont have any power in the military structureDo you genuinely not see how letting Neo-Nazi militias roam free in Ukraine might be a problem?
>so they dont have the ideological support of the ruling powerNot completely, no. Certainly not publicly. That's not the point I was trying to make, though, hence why I included that part.
>so 7% (when in coalition with the government party), is that it? not very impressive7% is institutional power. They are close to United Russia.
>I think that makes it clear how popular these positions really areI have repeatedly stated that these views are not exceptionally popular, did you read anything I posted?
>hey seem mostly to be given some smaller role to satisfy the coalition and ultimately solidify united russia grip on powerOkay, then I was right. They do have power. Case closed.
>When you compare the situation to the actual nazi stateThis isn't about Ukraine. I'm not interested in discussing Ukraine. I oppose the Western-backed Euromaidan puppet regime in Kyiv and I don't think Russia should have invaded. Hundreds of thousands of people have died for nothing. I imagine you support the invasion and I don't agree and we'll leave it at that. But yes, I will concede that Nazis have more institutional power in Ukraine but I also never said otherwise so it's not relevant to the argument.
>they're not the ones selling weapons to themDoesn't make them not Zionist. Russia tried to ship an enormous amount of grain from occupied Ukrainian territories to Haifa and Israel only declined after the EU threatened to sanction them if they accepted. Russia invited Israel's ambassador to the Victory Day parade in 2025. They are Zionists.
>the european countries are a lot more zionist than russiaYeah. And?
>he is an imperialist reactionary fucker, but thats not equal to neo naziOkay? What if it's not equal? Who tf cares? He's evil.
>mostly because those are actually imperialist cheerleaders that were especially mad at him for criticizing ukraine warI don't really care about Tucker's ability to parrot lolbertarian slop while also unapologetically supporting Israel until it became unprofitable. He lost his job, it was funny, it probably happened because he was sexually harassing coworkers. End of story.
>which was true?No, it's not. You clearly don't understand the actual background of Trump's actions and how they factor in to US imperialism. The establishment loves Trump because they're also retards who believe that the stuff he does will work. Every time he fucks up really bad one may claim that the Bourgs probably prefer another guy because they'd be competent, but if you actually look beneath the surface you can see that they actually support what he did and also thought it would work. Case in point: Iran war. Trump acts in the interest of imperialism and Capitalism. Anybody arguing otherwise is either a rube or a traitor.
>The whole USAID gutting for exampleOnly ended up destroying the programs that actually helped people in exchange for building US soft power (Example: aid for impoverished countries) and the multitude of unspeakably evil shit it was doing just got relegated to other parts of the government. Millions will likely die as a result and the effects have already been seen. He also did it because he hates the idea of helping people even when the actual purpose of doing so is nefarious.
>objectively, yes thats better than them being integrated or having institutional powerA militia actually has more power and freedom than an integrated part of the military.
>but azov was also vastly more powerful and independentArguably not. The fact that they're part of the military gives them less independence. Not that it matters, anyway.
>and ukraine have multiple nazi unitsThis isn't about determining which country is more Nazi
>its much more limited and precarious in russia>the russian state is way less nazi than most of natoOkay? This isn't my point. You know, I spent a lot of time on that response because I wanted to genuinely make it clear to you that Nazis are a serious problem in Russia. I even gave sources for nearly everything I said. I made sure it was all Russian media that hadn't been denounced by the government in order to minimize accusations of Western distortion. I gave you a fucking video of the former head of the Russian space agency (Which they turned into a company, btw) heiling Hitler and you don't even address that. You've addressed almost nothing that I talked about. Furthermore, you keep backpedaling.
First it's
>they're a complete political non-entity in Russian politicsoh but nevermind, they ARE
BUT>they seem mostly to be given some smaller role to satisfy the coalition and ultimately solidify united russia grip on powerAnd also
>None of the parties that actually have seats in the Duma espouse actual Nazi rhetoricBut actually they do, so now suddenly the argument is
>so 7% (when in coalition with the government party), is that it? not very impressiveWhat a tragedy! I spent so much time on it and you didn't even read it. Maybe next time I should just call you a retard and leave.