/siberia/ - Off-topic

>>782080
What’s with this animosity towards trades?

You can always use your degree to become a public school teacher. Not a glamorous position but relatively steady. People will keep having kids and they'll generally want them educated.

>>782083
A lot of schooling has become more online

Wow the pope is virgin walking

>>782090
he should lift his head up
his papal tiara will fall

>>782085
They won't be able to replace ALL public high schools with online learning. Closed schools for a couple of months during Covid seriously fucked kids up. I work as a substitute part-time and there is a clear difference for kids that were in gradeschool during the shut down. I see 3rd and 4th graders who don't know how to hold a pencil they just close their fist around it, etc
But unironically, a lot of jobs require a degree just because. One of my gigs is as an "Archivist" and beyond the impressive(?) title, it's pretty boring and not related to any skill you get from college. It technically requires a Master's but with a who-you-know situation I got it with a BA. I swear a trained monkey could do this. Well, a monkey with good enough hand-eye-coordination to use a mouse and staple remover.
Not all trades ruin your body. Electrician work isn't particularly hard on your body.

>>782080
realise that most people trying to give advice dont know what theyre talking about

>>782095
> Closed schools for a couple of months during Covid seriously fucked kids up. I work as a substitute part-time and there is a clear difference for kids that were in gradeschool during the shut down. I see 3rd and 4th graders who don't know how to hold a pencil they just close their fist around it, etc

Why do people always claim that COVID fucked up kids cognition?

There have been other major disasters that has disrupted school sessions. Where are the reports of the sociological effects there?

> They won't be able to replace ALL public high schools with online learning.

Not yet.
They’re already doing virtual classes for some subjects

>>782102
Very true. Good chance their lives are a wreck too, that or they're literal children >>782102

>>782106
From personal experience, people love to use their age as validation to give their half baked opinions on how you should run your life

The days of being able to get a good job with a bachelor's are definitely over. If you want to pursue a university education for career purposes then you've gotta go hard or go home. For STEM a master's is a bare minimum, and for humanities you'd probably need to go all the way to a PhD or else switch to a professional field like law. I guess it depends on what sort of area you'd like to work in. Even in my case, I've got a BA and MA in political science, plus a JD. I spent months going after a wide range of job opportunities in government, non-profit, and academia (since I wasn't sure I wanted to actually become a lawyer after graduating law school) and couldn't find shit. I eventually got fed up and just continued with getting my license to practice law since it seems like that's the only way I'll be able to make a living, even though I don't particularly enjoy it. My plan now is just to practice for a couple of years and then slowly transition to academia, first by teaching law and then getting a PhD in political science.

The mistake people make is interpreting devaluation of higher education as higher education becoming worthless, when in reality it means having a degree being the new bare minimum. Masters does not guarantee you a decent job anymore, but lack of one does guarantee only shitty ones.

>>782121
Fair point. However, you have to agree that higher education is diluted with people whom let’s be honest aren’t academically equipped for their elective courses.

I feel higher education while not worthless is oversold. Faculty and staff make their money based on how many students enroll

>>782080
the thing you need to understand is that there's pros and cons to everything, and all you ever get is cons on every subject from nearly every person online.

>>782080
>though about going for the trades but its work that ruins your body completely by 38 and even then it might be acceptable if I would be able to work on my own away from other tradies because their mentality is so toxic and annoying that i might just kill myself after a few years
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: truck driver
PROS:
>you're alone 90% of the time, just you and the road (unless you drive teams, but usually you partner with someone that you actually like)
>decent pay (between 40 - 80k, can possibly go higher)
>get to see the country
>never have to pay for room and board because you stay in your truck 90% of the time
>relatively low barrier to entry/not a difficult career to get without a degree
>won't ruin your body in the same way that other blue collar work does
CONS:
<mind numbingly boring job (better have a long playlist of music and audio books and podcasts cause you're going to need it)
<long hours (11 hour drive time usually means roughly 16 hour days when you consider time spent picking up and dropping off loads; 70 hour weeks is the norm)
<one of the most dangerous jobs you can do
<consumes all your time as you are expected to stay for extended periods away from home and on the road; you get very limited home time
<unless you're in a union, next to no benefits and most companies will treat you like expendable filth (but what company doesn't?)
<depending on the type of cargo you carry, your sleep schedule will be all over the place
<terrible quality of life on the road, can be difficult to get good food/find time for exercise
<constant sitting is hell on your body alongside the poor diet
<have to be wary of road laws and the DOT, regarding weight and height restrictions, trailer length restrictions, and no-access roadways, etc.
<you won't have much say in where you travel; won't have the opportunity to stop and visit a place to do tourist activities (unless you sacrifice home time to get time off on the road)
<despite being an integral component of the economy, truckers get no respect and are looked down upon as subhumans by pretty much everyone, especially the motoring public

I know I listed more cons than pros, but who knows, might be right for you.

>>782149
I think the world is mostly cons. Or maybe it's the bad feels worse than the good feeling great. You just got to to pick the least worse option and hope the circumstances you're born into aren't too bad.

>>782110
There are plenty of retarded old people, but like… if you're under 25 you don't know shit about what degrees are "useful" or not and are just regurgitating internet propaganda.
And yes as that anon said there are literal children, as in minors, some pre-teens, pretending to be adults on the internet giving sage advice, because they're bored and want to roleplay. They were all over places like Yahoo Answers.
One of many reasons why it's so important to touch grass and not take what's posted on anonymous spaces so seriously. In particular you should completely cut 4chan off, it makes you mentally ill.

>>782169
> if you're under 25 you don't know shit about what degrees are "useful" or not and are just regurgitating internet propaganda.

That’s funny because that’s the age group that’s studying for their degrees.

>>782080
Status

>>782169
The value of what college degrees are worth pursuing changes every decade. A lot of old timers are still stuck in what made them relevant on their respective career path which may not be the same prospects for the newer generations

>>782080
Actually OP I think your plan is pretty solid all things considered.

>>782169
> One of many reasons why it's so important to touch grass and not take what's posted on anonymous spaces so seriously. In particular you should completely cut 4chan off, it makes you mentally ill.

Then you admit that nine tenths of the sentiments on this site are all based on vibes rather than reality

All this talk about “killing off excess males” to compensate for “male loneliness” or fake stories about reactionary siblings mooching off their families which use the same buzzwords that are often stereotyped with alt right

>>782169
People over 25 are more likely to dismiss college degrees as hogwash or point to the more advertised prospect full degrees funnily enough