/siberia/ - Off-topic

i don't know but damn that pic is hot

>>784569
>This is assuming you live in an imperialist country
the entirety of /usapol/ has filled up several times between people having this argument. so consult the archives of /usapol/ if you want to hear all the positions on this, ranging from reasonable to deranged, which there are reasonable and deranged individuals on "both" "sides"

you are not likely to get as detailed of responses in /siberia/

imo I don't think everyone who joins is a morally reprehensible baby killer, especially not nat guard, but I am suspicious automatically, because there's basically very little the US has done since WW2 that was justifiable from a communist perspective. secondly, there are a lot of citizens' militias where you can get similar training.

FWIW infiltration and recruitment in capitalist militaries was a mandatory part of Third International praxis. If you join a rear echelon type unit like national guard or reserves during peacetime, leave as soon as your training is complete (or as soon as you can after that), and avoid any deployment in support of a reactionary war, then I'd say it's not only acceptable but should be encouraged. This is especially the case if you live outside the US in a minor partner in the imperialist bloc, like Sweden or the Czech Republic or something. Keep in mind though the possibility that you may not be able to avoid these things, and if you do end up deployed in support of a reactionary war you should be prepared to go to prison before actively aiding imperialism.

>>784574
>>784580
>especially not nat guard

It's a common misconception that National Guardsmen don't deploy. They deploy a lot actually. During peak GWOT times they were nearly half of the entire US force in the region. The National Guard has a lot of combat arms and special operations units within it.

>>784574
>there are a lot of citizens' militias where you can get similar training

No there aren't, and even if their were, US military training wouldn't directly translate into being a guerilla fighter or whatever.

>>784582
Idk the American rules specifically, but in most countries reservists are usually only deployed with specific authorization from the legislature (unless they volunteer). The military leadership can't choose to simply activate them for an involuntary deployment without this authorization.
>During peak GWOT times they were nearly half of the entire US force in the region
That's to be expected during a major war though, hence the importance of joining during peacetime.

>>784582
>US military training wouldn't directly translate into being a guerilla fighter or whatever
A lot of military training is generally applicable to any kind of fighting. But even discounting that, most NATO armies still train in counterinsurgency, which is obviously something that's important to have knowledge of if you want to wage a successful insurgency.

>>784584
>That's to be expected during a major war though, hence the importance of joining during peacetime.
That example was meant to be illustrative. My point is that the National Guard deploys a lot. At a minimum, outside of current events that lead to sporadic deployments, units are on multiyear rotation cycles with their assigned partner countries. It's entirely possible that a guardsmen during peacetime could end up on an involuntary austere deployment somewhere that is definitely not their home state.

>>784585

>A lot of military training is generally applicable to any kind of fighting

It's quite a commitment for what wouldn't be broadly applicable information. But I think it's better than relying on private militias.

>>784586
I'd say the mere fact of the US as the world policeman of imperialism should really make anybody think twice about joining tbh. It really does change the ball game if you're there versus a minor NATO member or something. Additionally there's already an established tradition of anti-imperialist veterans in America, which would probably serve as a better basis for a militarized socialist movement than joining yourself.