What is it about machismo culture that makes men on average so much more insecure about having kinks. Like in the appropriate, sex positive online venues you'll see men, women, etc… being open about what they like, but those will still be predominantly female spaces.
Outside of that it seems like men avoid being seen as liking something off-vanilla like it's molten lava, while everyone else is seemingly normal to a bit over-sharing about it.
That’s because women look down on men for having sexual kinks
Men are actually open about sexual kink s but it’s considered rapey
>>790272it's not machismo, it's generations of feminists shaming male desire.
it was started by a youtuber named rolf
he said that men shouldnt have fetishes because it leads to doxx and rape threats online
his toxic fanbase now roams the internet like the morality police trying to censor people
>>790272Irony is, men are more diverse in their sexual kinks than women
But women are seen as innocent beautiful angels that can do no wrong, so women are celebrates for having kinks, most of which are just nuanced flavor of vanilla sex.
Men on the other hand have sexual kinks for anthropomorphic machines and whatnot but it’s considered creepy
>>790275This. And Leftypol especially loves to shit on cishet male sexuality and then wonders why men don’t open up.
>>790275I feel like right wing, bioessentialist feminism is to some degree part of–or at least symbiotic with–machismo culture. They need eachother to justify themselves.
>>790289oh please….. this is just like when feminists say that every instance of misandry is just more evidence of patriarchy (even/especially when it's women doing it)
>>790293I mean, it does reaffirm cisnormative gender roles to be misandrist. Can't start chipping away at patriarchy if you blindly accept and embrace one of it's load bearing principals.
>>790293Feminists say “misandry isn’t real” and even say that complaining about misandry is reinforcing patriarchy
>>790295This.
Shaming men for sexual kinks is a powerful motivator for patriarchy
>>790295Traditional gender norms are much more misogynistic than they are misandric. It's only in modern times that we see that pattern having reversed.
>>790300So you think that boys being forced to participate in life threatening activities by their elders to prove their worth isnt misandry?
Boys being forced into martial activities or being beaten up for not conforming to macho things isn’t misandrist?
Yes, history shows society was misogynistic but it wasn’t exclusively misogynistic
>>790302Yes which is why I said it was more misogynistic than misandric.
>>790304Men obviously had much more rights than women. At least in the western tradition. Rights to property, much more job choice, much more social standing in general, much more acceptable for them to whore around, etc.
>>790303Define “much more”?
I think there’s a problem with leftists where they tend to downplay dismiss mens woes as a gender
And especially with this talk about “culling male fetuses” to “balance the gender ratio”
>>790305Only the upper class of men
Most men didn’t have rights
They were paupers and slaves
They were expected to bust their asses for long hours in workshops risking their bodies
>>790306See my post above. Yes men got sent to die in wars but mass rape of women and girls was one of the big attractions of going to war.
>>790307Yes it sucked to be a serf but it was still better to be a male one than a female one. As a woman you were more or less property of your father/husband and still had to work the fields all day
>>790308Boys and young men were raped too
In fact, a lot of ancient societies saw a lot of boys being molested by their masters for convenience
But of course, once again leftists assume that rape and assault are only female problems
>>790310Yes men and boys also got raped but much less than happened to females.
>>790309Women weren’t expected to have to the extent of work men were expected to.
But ok, then I will bite
Children had it the worst of all
Children were seen as extensions of their parents and even punished for their parents transgressions
Even the most patriarchal society shows more respect of personhood for women than children
>>790311Are you sure?
It was not as infrequent as you think
It’s just that society back then didn’t think of boys as worthy of sexual protection like girls were
Even now, studies show that there are more male victims of child secular abuse than female.
Male victims are underreported
>>790312>Women weren’t expected to have to the extent of work men were expected to.Proofs? They generally had to take on most of the domestic labour and still do farm work, of course men did more of some physical jobs but women did most of the crafting as well.
Why are you bringing up children? Yes obviously children had less rights than adults, that has nothing to do with what we're talking about
>>790313As usual, Leftypol dismisses male distress despite talking about equality
They only talk about helping men in the sense of “getting him laid”. God forbid that men want any sort of compassion or care that isn’t romantic or sexual
>>790314I'm not talking about now I'm talking about beck then.
>>790320>>790315Bro you are so deranged, I literally am saying I feel like men are more oppressed in modern western society than women, but you are such a retard you have to dispute the obvious point that women were more oppressed at some point in history
>>790319> Why are you bringing up children? Yes obviously children had less rights than adults, that has nothing to do with what we're talking aboutBecause whenever you guys talk about oppression, it’s always women or ethnics you discuss.
Even now, you disregard children as people.
> Proofs? They generally had to take on most of the domestic labour and still do farm work, of course men did more of some physical jobs but women did most of the crafting as well.Men did crafting too. And yes they also did some domestic labor, it wasn’t limited to just women
>>790300Yeah, traditionally, but the assignment of roles to genders at all remains no matter how you shuffle it, which will lead to bioessentialism and patriarchy/matriarchy regardless.
>>790320>>790315because the point was that society is more misogynistic than misandrist. youre focusing on statistical outliers to prove a point that men are oppressed when cases of female oppression are much more common
>>790323Maybe make a topic about how children are oppressed and we will talk about that, you fucking nut
>>790324Okay but when feminists say 'patriarchy' it always means something bad, whereas when they say 'matriarchy' it means something good, the point is they are just trying to elevate women above men which they have succeeded at
>>790321Modern women are equally oppressed just like modern men are
And youre the one assuming that men in ancient societies had it made, claiming that the average historian had rights and that male children didn’t get raped as often
You’re the one downplaying meme burdens in history
I never said women in history aren’t oppressed but you’re making it out to be where they’re the only ones who suffered
And if anything, children were the ones who suffered the most anyway
>>790325>statistical outliersSo you think that boy-rape was an outlet phenomenon?
Or how boys were often abused for industrial tasks?
>>790329>So you think that boy-rape was an outlet phenomenon?yes because statistically speaking most rape victims were women. men got raped but to a much, MUCH smaller degree. that's the point
>>790327Feminists I've met irl seem more concerned with the bioessentialism at the root of either being a problem, though I have seen the type you're talking about on social media occasionally. There's definitely sects to it.
>>790329Let's take girls and boys out if it and only talk about adults, who do you think was most likely to get raped by a conquering army? Women, or men?
>>790321>I'm not talking about now I'm talking about beck then.and it was more common back then
Pederasty wasn’t just a Greek thing
We see it Muslims, Japanese, even the Anglos did boy-rape
It was more convenient because it could be disguised with apprenticeships.
Even in all-male spaces, boys get raped more frequently than if it were co-Ed
If a girl gets raped, heads would fly.
Granted the girl would also be wrongfully blamed but still, people would naturally wanna empathize more with a deflowered girl
>>790331To me if someone says "women should be equal to men" that's not even feminist in 2026, it's just common sense, but if someone starts talking about how men are evil they're probably on some feminist bullshit, so by my standards, most of the feminists I see are just basically enforcing a woman cartel where men are kept out, and kept down.
>>790330Are you sure about that? Maybe we should leave male youths in hands of male elders with complete total faith and no surveillance.
>>790332Men were raped alot in armies and jails.
>>790337>Maybe we should leave male youths in hands of male elders with complete total faith and no surveillance.how does that have any connection with the point im making
and why the fuck do you keep talking about male rape anyway. youre the one who brought it up for no reason and you keep talking about it
>>790335The truth is, nobody wants equality
When feminists talk about equality, it’s mainly just window dressing
They don’t want women to be back-broken breadwinners having to earn the affection of their desires partner
They don’t want women to be put into selective service
They don’t want women to go for blue collar work
They don’t want women to be casual/non-chalant around the opposite sex
“Equality” just means “it’s my turn to crack the whip on others”
>>790338Because you guys keep talking about female rape to begin with
Once again, Leftypol showing that they don’t care about men (not that they care about women either)
You only care about men and women as idealized forms of gender performance
Seeing so may posts on here saying that it’s ok to be disrespectful and degrading toward non-leftist women
>>790335> To me if someone says "women should be equal to men" that's not even feminist in 2026, it's just common senseThat wasn’t even feminist in 2016, 2006, or even 1996
>>790272I am a fucking disgusting freak incel pervert with thoughts of kidnapping, raping and humiliating women. This would be considered acceptable if I wasn't fat, short and ugly but I am so it's not.
>>790335>>790340>>790342Well that's why I bring up sects: There's feminists that think that bioessentialism is the problem, and there's feminists that think bioessentialism is good and merely want the good end of the stick. Clearly both at odds with eachother, but both are feminist.
It's like how stalinists and trots are both socialist.
>>790352Yep.
And that’s why it pains to see people on here treat right wingers as all the same I’m terms of opinions.
They aren’t
I’ve met more alt righters who were sympathetic to MtF transhumanists than they are to cishet male virgins
>What is it about machismo culture
I am sorry but what? Within straight macho spaces men are literally the most open about their kinks if anything. In contemporary bourgeois feminist culture male sexuality is effectively pathologized by a form of neo-puritanism. Even something as benign as saying 'I like big tits' or 'I like big asses' is going to get you scolded as being problematic if a straight male says it, lmao.
>>790373The only accepted cishet males are celebrities and even they get flak although not as hostile as their commoner counterparts
>>790272Men should feel shame they like vile shit like that pic you used was probably made by a male furry. Tradcon machismo doesn't do "kinks" that's something libbed up academics invented.
>>790302>So you think that boys being forced to participate in life threatening activities by their elders to prove their worth isnt misandry?Maybe if you want to bite the bullet and say it's misogynist for society to encourage women to get pregnant (life threatening). In truth neither is "oppression" (libbed up academic speak again) it's just both sexes doing their role. Gonna have to do the same under socialism too until we live in some freaky scifi culture where everyone is a sexless cyborg and babies are grown in factories.
>>790403furries haunt the chud mind just as much as trans people do
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