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Life in prison, even in America, can only get to be such a punishment. We should go further with our executions and start torturing especially heinous people to death on a live feed. They already suffer enough with the drugs and gas chambers and everything, let’s just have fun with it. There really is a universal karmic satisfaction that only their physical pain and agony can bring into this world.

I would love to see Dylan roofs face after he’s been locked in a sensory deprivation room for a full 12 months with no contact. Some people in this world you just have to make beg.

I agree. Life in prison doesn’t even act as punishment for inmates.

I believe in physical punishment for adults.
“Spare the rod, spoil the child” shouldn’t apply exclusively to children

None, because I am going to end up there at some point

just kill them honestly

>>795365
I have good news! Google 'CIA black site'

>>795365
can we just rape and kill all rightoids

>>795365
Human experiments. Especially genetic experiments that need human subjects.

Truth nuke, if you brutally torture dylan roof to death and say the same will be done to any future mass shooters we would have way less of them.
>>795520
Insanely based
>>795530
Also a good idea

Gas the rightists

>>795514
Yea I just want those to be used more on Americans than foreigners. My biggest issue with torture is just how much we export it.
>>795520
>>795627
I feel it’s also necessary as the op to not condone terrorism against any normie rightoids. Don’t just independently attack any old stupid person, use the state to attack violent animalistic monsters who cannot otherwise be reintegrated into a civilized community.
>>795587
Also as much as I would use it for propaganda if it didn’t deter a single shooter I’d do it anyway for the knowledge that it’s done. Something about the mentality it takes to mass murder unarmed children makes me want to really pry up a few fingernails.

>>795704
>I feel it’s also necessary as the op to not condone terrorism against any normie rightoids. Don’t just independently attack any old stupid person, use the state to attack violent animalistic monsters who cannot otherwise be reintegrated into a civilized community.

I wouldn't trust any leftist in current year to be mature enough to handle this distinction

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>>795365
"People" like you should be forced to eat lead. All sadists should be mercilessly exterminated. Violently rooted out from any power in society.

You get off at torture and want to find some justifiable excuse for your perversion. The best thing you can do is commit suicide.

>>795759
Oh I’m the degenerate, right. Get off yr high horse and stop idolizing an alcoholic abusive homophobic bootlicker like Stalin.

Nah, life in prison under humane but Spartan conditions. Where the death penalty is implemented, execution by firing squad.

>>795829
I think the prisons for first time offenders, youth, petty criminals and general civil disorder should be extremely conciliatory, helpful, and efficient. They should have lots of opportunities. They should be like proper Nordic prisons with freedoms and minimally invasive control. A step up for lifetime offenders and more violent people should be what most American prisons are like now, very little comfort or rights to speak of. The worst of the worst, including the white collar criminals, get sent straight to death camps where they’re treated like slaves and guinea pigs. To do work and be worked upon. Not only should they have no right to freedom comfort or privacy, but they should actively be exploited and punished through physical/psychological torture.

>>795798
>clutching pearls about alcoholism and homophobia while advocating medeival style torture
bruh

>>795829
I think life in prison is inhuman in itself, even if it's a good prison. Absolute maximum should be 10 years and anything worse should just be the firing squad.

Fully agree with Spartan conditions. The American prison system is a fucking abomination where there is nothing to do but violence and drugs.

>>795365
op's barely disguised sadistic pathology

>>795874
If you think medieval style torture is bad, I’ve got some bad news about Stalin.
> Absolute maximum should be 10 years and anything worse should just be the firing squad.
I mean they shouldn’t necessarily be killed just for murder or something, but they ought to feel like a maximum security prisoner. Also is 10 years like a hard limit? What if someone’s like 20?

Wörk camp for common criminals. Medical experiments for war criminals etc. so their bodies can be used for good.

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>>795365
I enjoy the psychological horror of rehabilitation. Remolding felons is way more fucked up and morally grey than just torturing them.

>>795891
>I mean they shouldn’t necessarily be killed just for murder or something, but they ought to feel like a maximum security prisoner.

I don’t get this logic. Maximum security isn’t punishment enough. If you kill innocent people, you should be killed. Why should law abiding citizens have to give their tax dollars to feed prisoners?
Also is 10 years like a hard limit? What if someone’s like 20?

NTA but it shouldn’t matter.

>>795834
>youth

Unless if said youth was a petty offender, then they shouldn’t be spared any rightful punishment.

>>795704
>Something about the mentality it takes to mass murder unarmed children makes me want to really pry up a few fingernails.
You're completely correct, ignore the guys calling you a sadist. This is a normal response to seeing this kind of evil. We must take extreme measures to prevent more children from being killed.

>>796659
That's not prevention tho

>>795587
>Truth nuke, if you brutally torture dylan roof to death and say the same will be done to any future mass shooters we would have way less of them.
yes, as we all know, domitian torturing christians put an end to the weird cult before it could take over the roman empire and then the world

>>796663
good point actually. yeah. torturing christoids literally just made them popular. their top guy is famous for getting tortured to death. people literally wear his tortured body as a symbol of pride.

No. Torture especially done by the legitimate authority/legal system is fucking depraved. It should only be done at last resort measure for information extraction, nothing else.
If you want to find personally the guy that wronged you and torture him go for it and pay the consequence but do not bring the state into this.

The type of guy that would be ok to do torture as "punishment" is also not the kind of person i would want in my society. And i am far from a violence averse person. But a dedicated torture guy would be the kind to mollest do vivisection on animals/children for the lol on his day off.
I have a hard time to imagine a more anti-social personality type than the "i love torture" people. Even the most radical nazis and bolsheviks did not like people like this.

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>>797281
Definitely. Anybody with the urge to torture should be removed from society. And quickly put to death if they even DARE act on their urge. There is no justification for torture or rape no matter the context.

>>797281
The whole mentality of "I'm doing it to people who DESERVE it" is a cowardly excuse to harm bound and defenseless people for sick pleasure. Every single one of these people would have ZERO issue torturing small animals and children if society deemed that acceptable and good.

The terror of revolution is purely materialistic and has nothing to do with wanting people to suffer. It's not whether or not the bourgeoisie "deserves" to be punished, it's simply what the working class must do for its own sake.

>>797279
Information extracted under torture is unreliable and immediately unverifiable. “Extracting information” is just the window dressing capitalists use to do exactly what I’m describing but to much more innocent people.

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>>797279
>It should only be done at last resort measure for information extraction, nothing else.
retard. that doesn't work. people just say whatever you want them to say or make shit up. It's a tool for extracting false confessions when you need a scapegoat. That is the only practical use of torture. There is no "legitimate" use even as a "last resort." It is only a crime for cathartic sadism. In the hands of revolutionaries it corrupts them. In the hands of reactionaries it reveals what they always were. I am not naive enough to think torture will end. It will continue, because people are stupid and sadistic and don't learn anything. I can only express my distaste for it whenever the topic comes up. Boo, torture!

just lock them in a room with no food or water and put microphones and cameras all around it

>>797265
>their top guy
i'm jesus's top guy. jesus has chosen me to sell him out to the pharisees. ok i'll do it jesus. he says i gotta kill myself to make it look like a really betrayed him. i'm on it jesus. i'm your top guy. he says i have to do this so he gets tortured and killed so he can sacrifice himself to save everyone who accepts him into their heart. I'm on it.

>>797397
Give them water, without food the whole time they’d start eating each other and that would be a lot more entertaining to catch on camera.


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