Why does prostitution cause so much seethe among idpollers and liberals?
In what way? Why do people just assume we know what the last thing was that they saw on the internet that triggered them?
>>796694It's idpollers and liberals that are pro-prostitution
"abolition of the present system of production must bring with it the abolition of the community of women springing from that system, i.e., of prostitution both public and private."
>>796696Women wouldnt sell their bodies in exchange for favors in a non-capitalistic system?
>>796697Thats not what prostitution is. In any case there wouldn't be a whole industry centered around it, we wouldn't take refugees and force them into prostitution either.
>>796696>muh 19th century german bible said prosty badyeah yeah yeah you can quote beardo but can you think for yourself?
>>796705I can, and I agree with Marx, I assumed he was a marxist and gave him marx's opinion on the subject.
Human empathy is irreconcilable with rape
>>796707This is taken out of context, he was talking about a group of people calling themselves marxists with whom he didn't agree with. Marx agrees with Marx.
Do male prostitutes exist or not?
Is it rape if a giggolo offers himself to a desperate or single woman or is his penis incapable of getting raped?
>>796717They do, they're in the minority, and yes it is rape.
>>796737You can't consent if you're coerced into it.
>>796702>Thats not what prostitution isYes it is
>>796738But the shes not coerced
>>796744the giggolo is the one who is coerced.
>>796745So its his choice
>>796746It's not, he doesn't have a choice, but of course liberals view capitalism as freedom, so they'll say yes.
>>796747I mean he could go be a plumber or something
>>796747>It's not, he doesn't have a choiceHe does. And its not the buyers fault nor are they to blame.
>>796748>>796749He couldn't, he's a desperate situation, he obviously can't get on the trades, so he does what needs to be able to afford to live.
And the buyers are responsible for exploiting him.
Only a liberal believes we're in a free society.
>>796750>He couldn't, he's a desperate situation, he obviously can't get on the trades, so he does what needs to be able to afford to live.Not the buyers responsibility or problem.
>the buyers are responsible for exploiting him.Hes at fault for offering himself to exploitation he also exploits and takes advantage of his clients needs for his own benefit.
>>796751>Hes at fault for offering himself to exploitation he also exploits and takes advantage of his clients needs for his own benefit.He doesn't, the clients don't need to have sex, they choose to, he doesn't chose to be a prostitute he's forced by the material conditions he lived in.
>>796752>He doesn't, the clients don't need to have sex, they choose to, he doesn't chose to be a prostitute he's forced by the material conditions he lived in.Hes not forced to do anything.
>>796753He is, what do you think happens if he says no ?
>>796756Then thats his problem.
>>796757Why are you even on this website if you"re right wing ?
>>796759Its called not being retarded. You should try it sometime.
>>796760Idk, take a five second look at the right currently and tell me who is the retard.
>>796761Idk you seem to be equally as retarded as whoemever you're imagining
>>796768Will you give me 300 Billion dollars ?
>>796772If you fuck my wife yes
People hate the sexual marketplace being disrupted
>>796694Because it benefits heterosexual men, and in our current gynocracy male sexuality is so hated that anything that benefits it is stigmatised and hated against. And I single out male heterosexuality since many of these leftoids and idpolers rarely show the same level of seething towards gay prostitution.
The same leftoids show the same seeth towards surrogacy by using absolute naturalism in ways they wouldn’t apply to any other field, despite the fact that surrogacy involves women being compensated for their maternal labor. The same seeth goes towards teen-lovers even doe most men are hebephiles to a certain degree. Female validation, especially from roasties, is a drug it seems.
>>796785>and idpolers rarely show the same level of seething towards gay prostitution.they think gays are all cozy boyos in nice bars having the time of their lives spiting the concervatives with ram ranch 18 naked cowboy parties
or that there's no such thing as gay prostitution out of needing money so it can't possibly be rape, and if it is then its a man's fault for abusing the male prostitute
>>796785Pure idpol you're saying right now. Idpollers are the ones in favor of prostitution.
Honestly its because people associate it with the likes of
>>796785.
>>796694They're conflicted because they underwent a libertarian psyop to convince them that sex is as meaingless as a handshake or flipping burgers. They know this isn't right but they don't know how to speak it without sounding like a religious person, who they hate, so they stick to their guns, or maybe become some sort of "anti-John" type feminist.
>>796905>they underwent a libertarian psyop to convince them that sex is as meaingless as a handshake or flipping burgersThe "sex work is work" slogan does not mean prostitution is indistinguishable from other jobs, but rather call for cultural and legal acceptance of sex workers.
>>796905>sex is as meaingless (sic) as a handshake or flipping burgers.That is true, all counter-arguments amount to idealism and metaphysical nonsense.
>>796912Let me fuck you and/or your wife
>>796907Then we should stop condemning men for paying for sex workers.
If prostitution is to be de stigmatized, stop condemning men
>>796751>>796748>>796753See all these arguments when it’s the man that’s the prostitute?
It’s all “he’s a man, he should have gotten his shit together “
But when it comes to women, they wanna coddle and defend her choices, even though a lot of these women come from relatively good stable homes.
I see more impoverished women who go to school or work and succeed
Yet women who choose to go into prostitution are sheltered from moral responsibility.
They’re told that they shouldn’t have to do anything to better themselves through trades or any form of manual labor
>>796760Would you have this line of reasoning if it’s women?
>>796913No. Also, I don’t have a wife so tough luck.
>>796748That’s what you should be saying to those young women who choose prostitution for a living
>>796785>The same seeth goes towards teen-lovers even doe most men are hebephiles to a certain degree. Female validation, especially from roasties, is a drug it seems.Women are also hebephilic as well, but male youth beauty is pathologized as anti masculine
>>796912Loser men want this to be true because then they could get more sex (or so they fantasize). Of course sex has many major physical and psychological effects. People who sleep around a lot tend to have lots of mental issues. Even for the stereotype he-man, sex "means something" for his self-image, he gets to be a great masculinist conqueror and so on.
>>796923Funnily enough, Australian radfem Germaine Greer once wrote a book about woman-boy love and, while it was mostly written from the POV of a hebephilic woman who is super into teen boys, the book was surprisingly androphilic despite Greer being a radfem considering how significant portions of the book is dedicated to boys’ struggles and suffering, such as bemoaning the fate of boy soldiers.
Then again, Greer is an eccentric figure since she once defended a lesbian teacher for having a relationship with her underage female student, and once related to how her friend had sex with her uncle as a child and only became “traumatised” not due to the sex but due to everyone around her committing iatrogenic harm. Yes really:
https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Feminism#cite_note-15Oh, and Greer also praised the death of Steve Irwin at the hands of a stingray as a triumph of the animal world against mankind, so there’s that.
>>796928Loser women want this to be true as well so they can dismiss their infidelity or shy away from the same moral responsibilities they put on men
>>796928LOL what you’ve said is idealist cope. Thanks for proving my point. Also:
>People who sleep around a lot tend to have lots of mental issues.You still haven’t proved a casual relationship between male/female promiscuity and mental health issues. Besides, if that were the case, then incels would be the epitome of health.
>>796928Irony is, conservative circles look down on sex having men as well.
More out of jealousy than any any genuine fear of societal collapse though
>>796932Incels are merely reaction towards promiscuity.
>>796930She sounds kinda based. Although I doubt anyone would be able to maturely implement her ideas without looking bad
>>796934you're kidding yourself
not everyman who becomes involuntarily celibate is some chud angry women can have fun and its destroying society, some geniunly turn so out of thinking the world geniunly thinks im genetic trash or ugly. it can be feeling like missing out or having your life set before you were born.
>>796937What Am I saying that’s wrong? I didn’t say that incels are correct.
I’m saying they’re merely a reaction.
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