/siberia/ - Off-topic

several problems,

1. keto-paleo-carnivore are more or less healthy, except for when taken to the extreme. to expand on this, keto and paleo aren't even meat heavy diets, contrary to what people think. keto is a diet that is designed to keep refined carbohydrates low, but you can still eat fibrous foods like spinach alongside lean meats, and have a mostly balanced diet. you can be mostly a vegetarian with a few animal products on the side and still be keto. paleo is just an attempt at eating as clean as possible, i.e. foods unaffected by hormones, pesticides, or other artificial means of alteration. carnivore is the most extreme, but even this you could make work if you ate like twice a day and took a fiber supplement.
   
   
2. most of these dickheads on youtube/social media are just doing what they do for attention. what you see them doing on camera doesn't necessarily reflect how they live life while off it. the point being that you don't know how they eat, and to what extent they're being extreme and unhealthy.
   
   
3. you're right that there is some sort of push against the feminization of man, but like, nobody with a brain falls for that shit. it's mostly young dudes in their teens and maybe early 20s. what's the average age of your typical andrew tate fan? no older than 25 I'd say. the point being that even if these influencer types are living unhealthy lives and broadcasting it to the youth, most of the people who consume that messaging will have limited ability to put into practice the sorts of advice they advocate, given that most of them aren't even out of their parents' house or able to earn an income that would be sufficient to do that sorts of shit they suggest.
   
   
4. I don't need to do anything, to perpetuate any sort of idea, and even if you try, you think you're the only one who will do that? people don't just fall for propaganda, because that shit is everywhere and we form a natural bias toward and against certain things. if transhumanists suddenly come out in droves in support of the sort of supposedly unhealthy lifestyle that carnivores propagate, it'd raise a huge red flag to the chuds.
   
   

at best, all you can do is let 'em destroy themselves on their own time, and they're already doing that. better yet, why not do the legwork to try and convince your fellow chud to gain some class consciousness? it's not easy but who said it's impossible?

>>801065
>keto-paleo-carnivore are more or less healthy, except for when taken to the extreme
And surely you can predict my answer: let's take it to the extreme.
I was thinking of 'carnivore diet' rather than paleo, my mistake. And you can survive off it for a few years, you can survive for a year without eating real food at all if you have enough stored energy, but it will have serious health implications if you aren't getting adequate nutrition. Health problems impact people and their ability to organize.

>most of these dickheads on youtube/social media are just doing what they do for attention. what you see them doing on camera doesn't necessarily reflect how they live life while off it. the point being that you don't know how they eat, and to what extent they're being extreme and unhealthy.

YES!

The result is:

• They don't look like they're dying.
  
• They convincingly promote a diet and other products that, if followed by a fan (fanatic), could seriously hurt them.
  
  

>most of the people who consume that messaging will have limited ability to put into practice the sorts of advice they advocate, given that most of them aren't even out of their parents' house or able to earn an income that would be sufficient to do that sorts of shit they suggest.
This is a good point.

>if transhumanists suddenly come out in droves in support of the sort of supposedly unhealthy lifestyle that carnivores propagate, it'd raise a huge red flag to the chuds.
I find it interesting that you argued this point on an anonymous forum, where no-one knows whether you're trans or not. There are many ways to feign online.

>better yet, why not do the legwork to try and convince your fellow chud to gain some class consciousness? it's not easy but who said it's impossible?
I do this where I can, but if I can chip away at the dedicated fascists with much effort or any risk, why not do both?

>unhealthy lifestyle that carnivores propagate
Sure. Eat your plant slop and go raw vegan. Bad hunter.

>>800903
Hunter gatherers and pre modern societies lived and strived off majority starch based food, fruit, vegetables and meat as a supplement to majority carbs and fat intake to around 10-20% total calories.