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maybe because instead of reading about a certain region you project what you already know about north america on to it. colonisation in latin america did not happen the same way it did in north america and this can be seen by the fact that the majority of people in bolivia, peru, mexico, all have indigenous ancestry, some still speak their original languages too, like quechua or guarani

>>801798
>indigenous ancestry
Will smith also has 0,2% cherokee
Im confused does having an arbitrary amount of indigenous blood in you absolve you of benefiting from colonial extractaction and exploitation that these countries were founded upon and continued after independence.

>>801799
once again youre projecting north american history to a completely different continent buddy. the majority of people in bolivia for example do not have "0.1% indigenous ancestry", they are literally direct ancestors to the same people that have been living there for thousands of years, when spain arrived they just enslaved and subjugated the local population.
how did latin america benefit from colonialism when most people here were second class citizens and our countries existed solely to export cheap raw goods to europe through slave labour? once again you yourself recognise that the continent turned out to be a shithole at the end, how would colonialism be a good institution for us if it couldnt build any roads, universities, infrastructure or industry? these were built in europe instead
who were we exploiting?

>>801802
>people in bolivia for example do not have "0.1% indigenous ancestry", they are literally direct ancestors to the same people that have been living there for thousands of years,
Uh uh and how does that absolve them from benefiting from colonial structures? Race is a social construct and isnt determined by your blood quantum but rather which part you are assigned under colonialism. You're not absolved for being 100% indigenous if you played a part in exploitation of other indigenous people and benefitted from it.
And you know latinx counties didnt stop being colonialist after independence right?

>>801807
once again who tf did we exploit? what benefit did we get? name it. thats like saying africans benefitted from colonialism.

>>801811
>once again who tf did we exploit
Well You havent done anything personally you were born too late to do anything other than living on stolen land.

>>801811
The mestizos, criollos and castizos used to exploit and still exploit the indigenous peoples, like in Brazil where their enslavement continued all the way to the 20th century due to the rubber boom in the amazons. And to this day, countless tribes have been killed at the hands of the mestizo/pardo loggers, whilst the Bolivian mestizo middle class tries its best to downgrade the status of indigenous peoples.

I mean, it’s so bad that the most common banter in the region is how they’re whiter than you, because denigrating the “indios” is common. That’s why Mexicans mock their own countrymen from Oaxaca, and why “sacar lo indios” and “mejorar la raza” are common mainstays of Latin American culture.

Ofc this isn’t to deny that opposition to it exists as Brazil literally banned racism while the current Cuban government does its best to emphasise the African and indigenous contributions of the country, and the same goes for most pink tide governments. But y’know, that doesn’t solve systemic racism nor the colonial structures underlying the region. In fact, it wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say that most LatAm countries are ran like European colonies to major extents.

Read any book

I dont know why people still reply to these baboons from pol or sharty. They come here without any good faith and only want to stir shit.

99% of "socialist" movements in Latin America do not include indigenous people at all and do not challenge the white supremacy found in these countries. That isn't even to mention the social-fascist "pink tide" dogs. They do not fight against colonialism. Only the Communist Party of Peru represented the indigenous people and fought against imperialism while actually still being a communist movement.

>>801836
Also the movement in Equador which has entered active struggle aka PPW seems to be good. And there are communists in every country but they are outnumbered by the pink tide dogs who do not challenge the racism in their countries.

>>801836
>99% of "socialist" movements in Latin America do not include indigenous people at all
Why should they communists dont believe in land inheritance or ownership communists aim to end social relations like indigenous or colonizer.

>>801839
being entirely composed of colonizers is a really interesting way to go about that

>>801799
>Will smith also has 0,2% cherokee
uygha Uruguay and Argentina are the exception, not the rule. Stop being dishonest.
>>801802
And dialectically, bolivia, peru, guatemala are also the exception, stop being dishonest. You can begin by outlining some basic differences between Bolivia and Peru and guatemala in terms of their relationship to Hispanic culture, power structure, history.

Before the both of you take into account the majority, which is in the middle, looping back to OP's initial point, to actually get an answer, working this through.

>>801817
Ah, it looks like this is the only materialist reply. He got to it faster than the other guys I tried to instruct in the above post >>801850

With the shift from formal colonialism to neocolonialism and the rapid global south proletarianization of the remaining peasantry, the era in which the peasantry has revolutionary agency is behind us, as can also be observed applying statistics to the drastic decline in such revolutions the last 50 years.

Time to dust off the selected works of Vladimir Lenin, Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx guys. Time to sober up.