/siberia/ - Off-topic

I can't believe The Left™ supported a serial adulterer. Thank goodness we're so much more moral now.

>>803155
Fuck that stinky nerd. At least MLK Jr wasnt racist. He also was a legitimate pacifist unlike Gandhi.

>>803188
Didn't ghandi advocate for europeans invaded by germany to just do nothing and die, sounds like true pacifism to me

Did the left even like Gandhi? I don’t know much about it but I assumed that he was propped up by liberals so India would not fall to communism and they wanted to create a narrative that Non-Violent protest actually works

>>803192
>he was propped up by liberals so India would not fall to communism and they wanted to create a narrative that Non-Violent protest actually works
/thread

>>803154
Because moralfagging leads to nowhere. In fact, if people like you made up the majority of the Russian Bolsheviks, then Lenin would have never succeeded since the movement would then be flooded with so many accusations of pedophilia and rape that the movement would have collapsed without even a whimper.

>pedophile
And? By that dumb logic, Stalin too was one. Same for gay icon Harvey Milk. Should we cancel them next, you bigot?

>>803274
>Lenin would have never succeeded since the movement would then be flooded with so many accusations of pedophilia and rape that the movement would have collapsed without even a whimper.
Agent Kochinski on defending Platner and the democrat party

marxism-leninism is a science. lenin developed the foruma for revolution in 1917. its like following the recipe for brewing cyanide. the closer you follow exactly what marx and lenin said the more pure the outcome. my homebrew marxism is 96.8% pure.

I don't think any real leftist is a fan of him, since he supported liberal brahmanism (extremely reactionary).

>>803154
>>803155
are you really so mad about an electoralist flopping that this felt necessary

>>803274
dumb misidentification of the problem. if you do not enforce some degree of ideological discipline (which will be rooted in your actual concrete actions, e.g. "don't beat your wife or at least don't get caught beating your wife") instead of cheap words ("you must uphold the LTV") you will destroy the primary appeal of the left, which lies precisely in it being ideological and having ideas that explain the world and are worthy of engaging with in their own right. (the right, by contrast, is tribal. if trump wants tax cuts, the laffer curve shows tax cuts are good. if trump wants tax rises, economists don't know shit and by the transitive property that means the tax rises are good.)

if you want to get ahead, be cleaner than clean, utterly ruthless, or accept that you're going to play a supporting role to someone who is cleaner than clean.
now take your nonce apologia and fuck off

>>803318
>moralism
>ideological discipline
Brother.
What the fuck do you think leftism even is? Do you think left vs right is "nice people vs mean people"??? I guess Trump has been the political reality for the past 10 years so if that's all you know then I guess that makes sense to you.
>you will destroy the primary appeal of the left
Quite the opposite, the incessant puritanism of the American left is its greatest downfall (and it's a modern phenomena). It's an insane vulnerability with no strategic upsides. Any moderately well-funded operation can simply launch a smear campaign and half the American left will join in on it for free.