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Why are progressive electoralists so obsessed with courting the minority vote?
These people are statistically irrelevant and will vote for them anyway because the alternative is the reactionaries winning. It seems like courting the centrist and moderate right wing a infinitely more succesfull electoral strategy.

Some people have principles and are not just in it for their egos.

>>804062
politics is now polarized by age and education. you don't show you care about minorities to win those small minorities, but to show educated young people that you're on their side, on the side of "better things are possible" and "don't randomly be cruel to people to satisfy the perverse whims of cruel old bastards". the archetypal left-wing voter is an underemployed university graduate who reads newspapers, the archetypal right-wing voter is a retiree or petit-bourgeois bigot who watches AI conspiracy slop from a man in india.

look at british labour for what happens when a party associated with the center-left tries to "court the centrist and moderate right wing" by throwing immigrants and transgender people under the bus: it goes from polling 33% of the vote - already quite low because they backed the gaza genocide before the election - to polling as low as 15% - the lowest labour has polled since the 1920s, numbers that signal the end of labour as a viable party. meanwhile the green party goes from irrelevant to polling 16% or better.

you must stop thinking in terms of a median voter strategy. the name of the game now is to boost your side's turnout and suppress the other side's turnout. labour won in 2024, for example, only because the right-wing vote was split. similarly the conservatives won in 2019 only because of a gigantic wrecking campaign against the labour party by the full force of the british establishment (it then had a left wing leader). in the US, Kamala Harris took on advisors from British Labour (who advised precisely this center-chasing strategy) and that's why we're now in the midst of Trump's second term.

>>804062
is the only way they can larp as leftists

>>804077
/thread

>>804064
/thread
>>804066
/website

progressive politicians arent trying to win lgbt votes, theyre trying to win votes from the average joe who sees conservatives attacking gays and thinks its unfair

>>804062
Small lobbyist groups usually decides elections. USA farmers are a good example of this and its not a coincidence Trump has been giving them political deals.

>>804066
>politics is now polarized by age and education. you don't show you care about minorities to win those small minorities, but to show educated young people that you're on their side, on the side of "better things are possible" and "don't randomly be cruel to people to satisfy the perverse whims of cruel old bastards". the archetypal left-wing voter is an underemployed university graduate who reads newspapers, the archetypal right-wing voter is a retiree or petit-bourgeois bigot who watches AI conspiracy slop from a man in india.


That’s kinda a shallow guess.
Because a lot of right wing voters aren’t all school dropouts nor boomers
And not all left wing voters are college educated young people.

>>804080
This. LGBT people are seen mainly as glamor products rather than people

>>804080
>joe who sees conservatives attacking gays and thinks its unfair
Lmao

>>804104
You think LGBT don't have normal families and friends who are appalled by rightoid behaviors toward them? Half the reason so many people vote for left-leaning parties despite them being shit on crime and economics is this.

>>804062
>t. democrat staffers right before losing horribly every single time

>>804064
>Some people have principles
we are talking about the electoralist (i.e. capitalist) left here

Whats the point of winning power if you abandon all the reasons you want to win it in the first place

>>804122
see this is the argument that exposes the people who say 'we need to abandon the trans to be tactical' never were ok with them in the first place

>>804124
Well mostly it's just that it doesnt work. reactionaries arent going to forget that you supported the thing for the 20 years until 6 month ago and the guys that votes for you will just get demoralized by your reactionary turn and wont come to vote for you.
This is litteraly what happenned to UK Labour to the poiint they had to fire keir Starmer in panic.

>>804122
so you can gloat at "ultras" while the bourgeois left sends cops to beat workers when they get too uppity


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