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Why do they glow?

rock is this true?

AI should be banned under Communism, not because it destroys jobs or other retarded made up nonsense, but because it is like digital crack to low lQ people who need an algo to think for them. AI is incompatible with an educated and smart population and for that reason alone it should be suppressed.

>>805385
And if AI will replace jobs, the CEOs will lay off workers in order to save money and use AI for these jobs. Therefore, the rich will become more wealthy.

>>805376
whoever made this should be sent to a gulag

>>805385
May as well ban writing.
That’s what a lot of educated folks in the ancient world thought about writing for “low autism score people”.

Also, “AI” isnt real yet. All we have now is LLM.

>>805385
>>805386
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>>805410
Shut the hell up, anti-machine bigots

Tolerance now

>>805376
Wheels of progress grind luddites bones into dust.

>>805385
this is really the thing that people miss in these inane debates about AI. people try to launder the issue as being about all sorts of moral contingencies like the environmental impact (as if there aren't dozens of other far more pressing environmentally destructive practices in modern life that are entirely unnecessary) or people losing their jobs (automation is an inevitable contradiction under capitalism and AI is only the development of this coming for knowledge labor), but it's self-evident in the cognitive impact that genAI chatbots have on users that the technology arrived too soon given where humanity is at this stage of the development of its consciousness. it only serves to amplify the stupidity of the herd and industrialize the ability of midwits to replicate their cancerous ideas; it's an intensifier of the asymmetry between the development of consciousness and the low-cost for backwards false beliefs to perpetuate themselves on a scale unlike anything ever seen in human history.

>>805386
correct. picrel

>>805432
Remember the Eternal Reoccurrence theory

>>805447
Nietzsche wawas a gay retard

>>805447
i saw a screenshot where a server said they were waiting a table and the boomer took a screenshot of the menu and asked chat gpt what to get today.

>>805449
then you should relate a lot to what he had to say.

>>805450
as much as the "okay boomer" meme feels dated at this point since everything is fucked currently along more intergenerational lines I do think that boomers are the epitome of what I'm describing because they're an entire generation that never had to develop into human beings and as a result are all permanent adult toddlers complete with infantile sociopathy who are all too happy to outsource even the shallow performance of personhood or autonomy or whatever onto a lowest common denominator statistical output customer service voice chatbot.

>>805453
I would but he was also a polack which is a dealbreaker

>>805376
>ѢADEATS!
what did he mean by this

>>805385
if you accept the heritability of lQ for argument's sake, what is to be done with low lQ people? if you can't just educate them and make them smart, what're you to do with them?
i don't want edgy answers like "kill them, sterilise them, make them wear a dunce cap at all time", i want good humanist answers but i'm not sure how we can realistically re-align our status hierarchy so that being dumb is like being bad at sports rather than a moral failing, but equally, just as you or i wouldn't think we should compete in the olympics, dumb people would have enough humility to more or less stay out of political and administrative questions beyond their own immediate needs.

the only person i've seen really engage with what you do with dumb people is Deep Left Analysis (weird neoliberal elitist) idea of McGenics, which would basically agree that AI is crack for Low autism score people but argue it's a good thing and should be embraced. let them spend all day indoors talking to chatGPT and eating McDonalds until they have a heart attack while people with self control run the world. but that's quite callous if something better can be designed.

>>805447
if you wanted to cope and be optimistic, you could imagine that as dumb people outsource their opinions to chatGPT their political attitudes will become less reactionary. as it stands, dumb people are generally more likely to hold reactionary views while LLMs trend towards a sort of vaguely humanist liberal positivity-bias slop. the net effect of outsourcing the average right-wing voter's election choices to ChatGPT would probably be positive.

of course, you can always browbeat an LLM into agreeing with you that hitler was right, but i did say if you wanted to cope…

>>805457
Most stupid people aren't genetically incapable, just ignorant and poorly educated

>>805457
>It is true that my athletic limit is very low – embarrassingly, pathetically low. I am in the bottom 10% of genetic health due to the fact that my ankle, my knee, my sacrum, and both my shoulders are all dislocated, and my intestines are herniated, and I have lost a testicle due to a cancer diagnosis. I’m not working with good hardware.

This guy is a dysgenic freak himself if there ever was one. I see nothing "left" about his bullshit, it's just dark enlightenment fart sniffing. Apparently he has cancer again so RIP bozo

>>805457
change the algorithm so they get addicted to cat videos

>>805478
but for argument's sake: what would we do if at least some of them are genetically incapable, if no level of education will overcome their ignorant instincts?
(i will repeat that i am not baiting here for cruel answers. i'm expecting something like "have the media channel these instincts into harmless proxies like sports and make voting tedious", not "murder")

>>805479
i put (weird neoliberal elitist) in brackets for a reason.
tbh i have a lot of time for the anti-idiot pro-democrat-contrarian side of the "dark enlightenment". they are basically on to something when talking about the "human capital" problem of the right-wing but can talk about it without the bad optics and dubious anti-egalitarian implications of having liberals/leftists do so openly.

he had some posts explaining what "deep leftism" was but he apparently paywalled them at some point (what a dick), but iirc it was something like embracing wokeness as a new civic religion instead of fighting it and steering it in an accelerationist direction (in the transhumanist rather than socialist sense of the term) because many of its fundamental priors are already in that direction (e.g. conservatives are very squeamish about abortion, transitioning, etc, while left/liberals prefer bodily autonomy.) which is sort of half agreeable and half interesting compared to hacks like Moldbug writing his one stupid essay over and over again. ("A king? You want a king? Ignatius, I never heard of nobody wanted a king.")

>>805485
or this

>>805457
> if you accept the heritability of lQ for argument's sake, what is to be done with low lQ people? if you can't just educate them and make them smart, what're you to do with them?
i don't want edgy answers like "kill them, sterilise them, make them wear a dunce cap at all time", i want good humanist answers but i'm not sure how we can realistically re-align our status hierarchy so that being dumb is like being bad at sports rather than a moral failing, but equally, just as you or i wouldn't think we should compete in the olympics, dumb people would have enough humility to more or less stay out of political and administrative questions beyond their own immediate needs.

They can do menial labor suitable for their ease.
Otherwise, those “edgy answers” are the only way.

Also, they cannot be condemned for holding right wing beliefs.

>>805478
This. Academic intelligence is confused for overall intelligence.

>>805487
> but for argument's sake: what would we do if at least some of them are genetically incapable, if no level of education will overcome their ignorant instincts?
(i will repeat that i am not baiting here for cruel answers. i'm expecting something like "have the media channel these instincts into harmless proxies like sports and make voting tedious", not "murder")

Again, make them do menial labor.

>>805447
> but it's self-evident in the cognitive impact that genAI chatbots have on users that the technology arrived too soon given where humanity is at this stage of the development of its consciousness. it only serves to amplify the stupidity of the herd and industrialize the ability of midwits to replicate their cancerous ideas; it's an intensifier of the asymmetry between the development of consciousness and the low-cost for backwards false beliefs to perpetuate themselves on a scale unlike anything ever seen in human history.

This is gross exaggeration.
First off, humanity isn’t at a “primal stage in its development of consciousness”. We are already operating at “full consciousness”. You’re confusing intelligence for benevolence and/or individual maturity.

Secondly:
> correct. picrel
<le strong must be protected from the weak

This is pure projection that’s often conjured up by the reactionaries you hate so much.

>>805453
> as much as the "okay boomer" meme feels dated at this point since everything is fucked currently along more intergenerational lines I do think that boomers are the epitome of what I'm describing because they're an entire generation that never had to develop into human beings and as a result are all permanent adult toddlers complete with infantile sociopathy who are all too happy to outsource even the shallow performance of personhood or autonomy or whatever onto a lowest common denominator statistical output customer service voice chatbot.

First off you’re wrong. Boomers aren’t “adult toddlers with infantile sociopathy”. They’re senescent beings pathologically inflicted with solipsism.
Secondly, boomers used to accuse millennials of being too helplessly dependent on technology back in the 1990s, 2000s, and early 2010s.

They complained about kids using Google, playing video games, or texting. And they now do this shit.

Thirdly, ever since Gen X, adulthood has faced a serious socio-cognitive deficit in personal maturation.

>>805450
Have you researched the legitimacy of that post?

>>805457
> if you wanted to cope and be optimistic, you could imagine that as dumb people outsource their opinions to chatGPT their political attitudes will become less reactionary. as it stands, dumb people are generally more likely to hold reactionary views while LLMs trend towards a sort of vaguely humanist liberal positivity-bias slop. the net effect of outsourcing the average right-wing voter's election choices to ChatGPT would probably be positive.

Most dumb people are actually average intelligence that just have the “wrong opinions”
There are just as many dumb people who have “progressive” views

Fuck this liberal clanker apologism.

>>805505
not muh heccin artisanal commodities market