/siberia/ - Off-topic

>>806464
I do feel for the zoomies a bit because their prospects are even worse than ours were, but yeah I hate how millenials are getting blamed for so much stuff that isn't our fault, we still have basically no political power to change anything

Millennials are a real fucking russian roulette gen, they brought you the best years of the internet but also woke 1.0 and all its attendant theater kids and karenites

>>806464
>>806465
Who cares what illiterate Tik-Tok brained zoomies think. They are weird as fuck tho. I don't remember trying to have a war with Gen-Xers. I think once they're no longer the youth generation(they already are kinda not) it's going to hit them hard since that's the only thing they have going for them. Unironically heard a lot of them talking about comitting suicide before they hit 30.

>Zoomers, or members of Generation Z, are people born between 1997 and 2012. In 2026, individuals in this demographic are anywhere between 14 and 29 years old
I've also heard 95 as the cutoff which would make some of them in their 30s already.

Zoomer here. I’ll tell you this: I think millennials are the only generation holding the world together. Without’em, places like America would crash out. Fact is, for all of the faults of millennials, I think they’re better than zoomers insofar that boomers were better than Gen X’ers, and I see zoomers as Gen X redux, and it seems like they inherited a lot of the worst traits of xoomers down to the self-victimisation and fake-nihilism masking a self-righteous and insufferable sense of moralism.

I guess I’m a doomer when it comes to my generation, but honestly I really do see each generation as being worst than the last.

If boomers had some talent, than millenial online culture had some charm and genuine affection, unlike the shallowness and incompetence of zoomers, and I don’t think zoomers have made a major cultural mark compared to their predecessors beyond absurdist SpongeBob memes and bringing back an edgier and secularised version of 1990s American culture wars onto the present and making it en vogue, although I’ve got to thank the big tech psycho plutocrats and Zion Don for that more.

>>806466
I honestly feel like woke was more forced on us by genxers and boomers.

>>806468
Honestly, zoomers had it bad being the first completely online generation. I mean as a millennial, the same bullshit probably wrecked my entire adulthood, the iphone came out in my final years of HS, but at least we can remember the before times and we got to see the transition to this bullshit reality. The world didn't used to be this fake and gay. You can't imagine a world where nobody was able to engross themself in a digital device in public, before best you had was books and magazines and walkmans. People were forced to socialize with each other all they time out of boredom at least. Nobody was ever recording you in public.

>>806467
Everything you said is a strawman. Millennials are the ones who started the whole "thirty is old" and they started showing offense towards zoomers and alphas for having their own memes.Also calling zoomers weird is hypocritical.

Millenials fucking suck and have done fuck all to stop capitalism except bitch. Zoomers suck too for the same reason

>>806468
All this genpol youre doing is quite ironic.

Zoomers are no worse than millennials. Millennials ripped off of Gen X culture and act like they invented absurdism.
Millennials also are self-victimizers and faux-nihilists with the whole complaints about "adulting" and being butthurt about their 2000s cultural products not ebing immortalised when they thmselves dont care about pop culture before 1985

Of course you can't make this thread without Newgene going on a tear.

>>806465
millennials are now blaming zoomers for all moral decay in society

>>806471
people still socialize with each other. electronic devices areno longer for isolated settings.
Also, we did have people recording each other in public before the Internet.

>>806511
>Also, we did have people recording each other in public before the Internet.
No, not really, and even then, there was nowhere to post the footage.

>>806509
Again, people on here wanna blame zoomers for anything and everything wrong in society and then complain about millennials being unfairly persecuted

>>806511
>Also, we did have people recording each other in public before the Internet.
Not really.
You had people doing it on family outings but it was too cumbersome to carry around everywhere at all times or you couldn’t whip it out on the fly like a smartphone.

>>806513
I didn't blame zoomers for anything. I was saying you guys are just a product of the times.

>>806512
Public access televsion and Americas Funniest Home Videos.
>>806468

>Zoomer here. I’ll tell you this: I think millennials are the only generation holding the world together. Without’em, places like America would crash out. Fact is, for all of the faults of millennials, I think they’re better than zoomers insofar that boomers were better than Gen X’ers, and I see zoomers as Gen X redux, and it seems like they inherited a lot of the worst traits of xoomers down to the self-victimisation and fake-nihilism masking a self-righteous and insufferable sense of moralism.

All the things you blame zoomers for started with millennials.
Millennials are the ones who revived the 1980s culture wars for a radlib secular audience.
Millennials were the ones who popularised faux-nihilism and self-victimization. They also claim moral superiority with their whole "we mock everyone equally" and virtue -signalling about "pre-digital" fun and "grooming"

>>806514
We had flip phones back in the early 2000s. People forget that flip phones could record and have media uploaded onto the Internet

>>806466
>woke 1.0
Never existed
>theatre kids
non-generational
>karens
they coined the term, doesn't mean they invented it

>>806469
>Millennials have been nothing but kind and considerate unlike the previous generations. Millennials re-introduced empathy and social progress when a spoiled and ungrateful nihilism was what was in before them, and prior it was being an anti-social cunt, and prior to that it was being a hedonistic fake deep drugged out cunt. Our genuineness has been twisted into being cringe, as if operating on 10 layers of irony to hide your true feelings makes anybody happy. We’ve laid out the foundations of of internet culture and dialogue on social issues that proceed to this day. I will say it once and only once, so listen very very carefully. The fajitas will not come out sizzlin’ forever. Remember that. No cap fr fr.

Millennials preach about empathy and sensitivity only to withhold it for their juniors. They also carried over the excessive snarkiness and ironic/self-depreciative humor.
Millennials also like to preach about themselves as being OGs of Internet culture despite Gen X being the ones who helped make the World Wide Web.Millennials have also helped normalize awkwardness and unwordliness as youthful virtues.

>>806516
>>806464
>They also claim moral superiority with their whole "we mock everyone equally"
That's more a Gen-X thing like OP says. Speaking of too, Gen-Xers never really handed the reigns to millennials. South Park and Family guy are still like the top cartoons 30 years later. They just gave Stone and Parker a billion fucking dollars for more South Park. What's the top millenial made cartoons? Just like Adventure Time and Steven Universe come to mind. Even Bob's Burgers is made by a Gen-Xer even though it's a more "recentish"(compared to South Park and Family Guy) show.

>>806519
Well, millennials carried alot of Gen X traits over. Millennials glaze alot of those Gen X cartoons and even complain about "modern cartoons being too faggy".
I rememeber 2015 thru 2021 they were accusing Gen Z of being snowflakes

>>806515

Well, it seems alot of posters on here blame zoomers for everything wrong or treat them as damaged goods compared to millennials.

>>806517
"puriteens" "gooners" and "alt right" are also non-generational

>>806469
It was

I am a millennial and I hate getting old. I also hate generational astrology, it's just another flavor of idpol. don't make assumptions about me because I fit some label, even if some of those assumptions are likely to be true.

anyway, yeah. zoomers really do have it rough these days, though. I sympathize.

>>806525
Can you tell anons on here to stop pathologizing zoomers and stop accusing them of solipsistic flaws?

>>806517
"woke" originally existed as sociopolitical discourse in hip-hop

>>806523
>Well, it seems alot of posters on here blame zoomers for everything wrong or treat them as damaged goods compared to millennials.
Like I said in my post, I see it more of a continuation of the same trends that had already started when I was the same ages.

>>806527
Woke started as a new-agey spiritual meaning which there was a whole lot of in the 2010s. Everyone was on that enlightenment, open your third eye, spiritual awakening, wake up from the matrix shit. It means like wake up sheeple. It had nothing to do with race really.

>>806528
Apparently, youre one of the few people to have this consideration. its not just on here, everywhere on the web acts like zoomers started the dark ages.
All the complaints they have against zoomers are the same exact ones made against millennials fifteen years ago.

Peope have fully embraced gen idpol as the new accpetable form of discrimination.

People now act like individual birth years are personality traits.

>>806530
That "enlightebnment" youre talking about started in the 1990s.

>>806525
Everyone has it bad, which is why anti-natalism shouldnt be frowned upon so much

>>806531
>That "enlightebnment" youre talking about started in the 1990s.
The modern new age movement started in the 70s, what are you talking about?

>>806535
Fair point. im talking about the "Wake up from the matrix" conspiracy theory aesthetics

>>806535
But it originally started in the mid 1800s and lasted like into the early 1900s and then it made a comeback in the very late 60s with the hippies and lasted into the 70s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_New_Thought

>>806538
Thats how we got Oneida, the Theosophy Movement, Swedenbourg, etc.

>>806530
>>806527
>The Scottsboro Boys were nine African American teenagers, ages 13 to 20, falsely accused in Alabama of raping two white women on a train in 1931
>The landmark set of legal cases from this incident dealt with racism and the right to a fair trial
>The cases included a lynch mob before the suspects had been indicted, all-white juries, rushed trials, and disruptive mobs
>It is commonly cited as an example of a miscarriage of justice in the United States legal system

"Woke" originally meant to stay aware of your surroundings, similar to the saying "stay up" or "keep your head on a swivel" for a White person equivalent, but has since taken on the meaning of "socially conscious" because of the circumstances of the case that inspired the very recording in which the term was coined.

>>806544
Well the modern version of it is what I'm talking about.
>but has since taken on the meaning of "socially conscious" because of the circumstances of the case that inspired the very recording in which the term was coined.
That's not true. It was popularized by that Erykah Badu song I posted which came out in 2008:
>>806530
Let's see her direct explanation.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2023-03-29/erykah-badu-woke-definition-conservatives-master-teacher

>The R&B singer-songwriter then presented her own definition: “I can tell you what woke means: It just means being aware, being in alignment with nature, because if you’re in alignment with that, you’re aware of everything that’s going on.

>“It’s not only in the political arena. That means with your health. That means in your relationships. That means in your home. That means in your car. That means in your sleep.”

>>806523
>puriteens
I mean you can vaguely analogize them to a few things that have existed in the past, but idk this phenomena seems pretty dependent on the very brief and current state of how people engage with the internet.

>>806556
Again, alot of the recent puriteen shit was something that existed back then and funnily wnough not all of them are teens.

It start with SJWs and their alt right counterparts obsessing over "grooming". These people treat fictional characters the same as their real life counterparts especially in romantic pairing

>>806464
Genpol is a retarded way to discuss cultural or socioeconomic changes. The deterioration has been full speed ahead since the 80s, largely driven by the falling rate of profit and the fact that CPSU lost the plot when they were supposed to be the vanguard party and innovate as socialist construction continued.

Zoomer resentment towards millenials is just pure envy tbh

They're just faded copies of us born into a zeitgeist that stopped breathing just as they arrived
desu ne

>>806574
It’s the other way around. Millennials are the ones resenting zoomers. Zoomers don’t have any envy of millennials.

To think that they do is self-delusion.
Millennials are the ones acting like they invented the zeitgeist when they ripped off of Gen X.

Millennials are the ones accusing zoomers of ruining everything, getting pissy about new memes, new media, new anything.

>>806572
There isn’t any meaningful definition for the concept of generational cohorts for people born after the early-mid 1980s. Technology, fashion and media graphics have plateaued.

>Millennials have been nothing but kind and considerate unlike the previous generations. Millennials re-introduced empathy and social progress when a spoiled and ungrateful nihilism was what was in before them, and prior it was being an anti-social cunt, and prior to that it was being a hedonistic fake deep drugged out cunt.

Ah yes, the typical self-proclamation of virtue. The smug moral superiority complex, preaching about “empathy” “equality” and all the pizzazz while blaming boomers and zoomers for “ruining everything” and “biting/cramping muh style”.

The ones who brag about their badassery in trolling and consuming edgy/dark media while going apeshit over Gen Alpha watching some harmless surreal CGI cartoon about sentient toilets

The same ones who complain about zoomers being “toxic” for edgy jokes despite being a sailor mouth in online gaming lobbies in 2011.

Millenial are cringe but the hate against them from zoomers if forced considering they were both rugpulled by gen-x and boomers

>>806584
Bro we don't care what zoomies are doing we're enjoying our fajitas, cringe memes and awful music

>>806623
There is no hate. Millennials are the ones hating on zoomers.
>>806779
You say this while complaining about zoomers.

>>806779
Sure.
You say that while constantly whining about TikTok and.blaming zoomers for that or complaining about zoomers having their own cultural products

>>806790
That’s ironic considering how zoomers are lashing out at the 67 meme which was spread by Gen Alpha.

I guess the boomer cycle of resentment and bitterness will afflict any generation displaced by the younger ones, effectively making boomer less of a generational identity and more a personality type that transcends space and time. Like, even before the internet you had one generation after the other doing the “keeds dis dayz” whining routine once they greyed their hair.

There are plenty of articles about it: https://historyhustle.com/2500-years-of-people-complaining-about-the-younger-generation/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/worklife/article/20171003-proof-that-people-have-always-complained-about-young-adults

https://www.ranker.com/list/old-people-complaining-about-kids-throughout-history/quinn-armstrong

I think that promoting intergenerational relationships (both platonic and romantic) and liquidating the parentoid class might be the only ways to break this cursed cycle.

>>806799
The thing is, the current year concept of a generation is shallow.
And nowadays with stranger danger and idpol, people think young adults dating anyone a few years older or younger is "grooming"

>>806467
>>806506
Thirty is old has been a thing for forever, or at least since gen X. Nobody wants to reach 30, and I'm not sure I trust people who say they are looking forward to growing older. I hope I die in a shoot out with the police when I'm 29 (but only after I get surgeries to look beautiful when I die).

>>806872
>Thirty is old has been a thing for forever, or at least since gen X.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Weinberg#%22Don't_trust_anyone_over_30%22

"Don't trust anyone over 30"

Weinberg is credited with the phrase, "Don't trust anyone over 30".[28][29] Often misattributed to Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, the Beatles, and others, Weinberg coined the phrase during a November 1964 interview about the Free Speech Movement with a reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle.[30] Weinberg later described the incident:

I was being interviewed by a newspaper reporter, and he was making me very angry. It seemed to me his questions were implying that we were being directed behind the scenes by Communists or some other sinister group. I told him we had a saying in the movement that we don't trust anybody over 30. It was a way of telling the guy to back off, that nobody was pulling our strings.[31]

On November 15, 1964, the Chronicle printed the story, quoting Weinberg as saying "We have a saying in the movement that you can't trust anybody over 30."[10]

Chronicle columnist Ralph J. Gleason highlighted the saying in his column on November 18.[32] The saying then went viral, becoming a favorite for reporters and columnists wishing to ridicule the young, the New Left, or the hippie/Yippie movement. This annoyed Weinberg, who has said:

I've done some things in my life I think are very important, and my one sentence in history turns out to be something I said off the top of my head which became completely distorted and misunderstood. But I've become more accepting of fate as I get older.[31]

A close analogue to this sentiment exists in George Bernard Shaw's "Maxims for Revolutionists" (an appendix to his play Man and Superman written in-character), which include the aphorism "Every man over forty is a scoundrel

>>806872
I can imagine someone in their thirties looking forward to being 40. Thirties are the worst, too old to be young, too young to be old.

>>806872
Thirty isn’t even old.
>>806875
Thirties are like the adolescents of the adult world. If twenties are babies, thirties are teenagers.

>>806872
Most platitudes about senescence run counter to reality

I see a lot of people online saying “my best years are just ahead me” despite being past their mid thirties or that “Im not getting older Im getting better”.
Again, it’s mainly online. And the people who say it are usually these well-traveled prosperous boomers who have shitload of toys to play with.

Its especially obnoxious to hear these middle aged ladies saying they’re “fifty years young” and shit like that, trying to act all contemptuous towards younger people in a semi-playful tone.

It’s just annoying.

Just accept your age and act like it.

Genpol warfare between mils and zoms is boring. The only interesting one is between retirees and working age. That's also highly relevant economically.

>>806912
Yeah but I've even heard (some)Zoomers say that's one of the things they hate about Millennials is complaining about Boomers.

>>806913
Zoomers complain about boomers too. This sounds like an outlier.

>>806464
>zoom zooms
>muh liminals
>booooooomers
>gennex

these are usa idpol marketing terms for random ranges of age cohorts. they are not relevant to class struggle and they aren't even very scientific ways of viewing people. They are less relevant than sex, gender, income, class, etc. Really tired of this marketing astrology. Sorry.

>>806872
>Thirty is old has been a thing for forever, or at least since gen X. Nobody wants to reach 30, and I'm not sure I trust people who say they are looking forward to growing older. I hope I die in a shoot out with the police when I'm 29 (but only after I get surgeries to look beautiful when I die).
anon i am 34 and i had friends who talked like this and they all made it to 30. when they hit 30 i made fun of them and reminded them of when they said silly things like this. you will get over it. you will not die in a shootout. you will get old.

>>806899
lenin looked better at 40 than at 20. fact.

>>806949
Most people dont think thirty is old to the point of saying silly things.
People look forward to being thirty as accomplished adults

The reason why some people fear being thirty is because a lot of people aren’t accomplished.

>>806951
And I can show you a lot of people who don’t look so good in their forties compared to their twenties.

It goes both ways

>>806875
Thirties is late prime-age.

>>806949
I find it funny how it’s considered acceptable to make fun of youth for being ugly and awkward but it’s considered disrespectful to do the same to elders.

We see the common teenage stereotypes about “zitfaces” becoming beauties in their thirties or middle school klutzes becoming finesse master's.

But when it’s the reverse? It’s always portrayed in a serious somber tone.

>>806464
Millennials pioneered trolling and cyberbullying. Their political organizations are full of backbiting, gossip, and ladder climbing, just like their forebears. They also invented "irony bros" so I dunno what you mean about them being earnest.

>Millennials re-introduced empathy and social progress
Where? All I've seen is a steady decline. People were nicer back in the 90s. Probably because of the better economy, but still.

>>807096
>Where? All I've seen is a steady decline. People were nicer back in the 90s. Probably because of the better economy, but still.

I’m gonna have to somewhat disagree with this. People weren’t necessarily nicer back in the 1990s. It’s just that a lot of our vitriol wasn’t as easily exposed as nowadays.

We had doomsday cults and Beckies out the wazoo.