/siberia/ - Off-topic

you shouldn't vote for anyone you should intensify class struggle and launch the people's war

>>806972
peoples war is how you get the surveillance state to corner your movement and your illegality isolates you and this isnt even just a first world thing because this is what happens in India Peru and Philippines

maoism served its historical relevance at a certain stage in the dialectic but as marxists we must continue to adapt as capitalism is not a static thing but a thing that progresses in stages and reacts and refines to the struggle around them the struggle shapes the left as much as it does the ruling class

"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind. "

This isnt just about machines and factories its about how capitalism will always react to the struggle their failures and their success just as we do the ruling class are alot more class conscious than us and infact we can say they probably adapt alot better too so we need to always be making the best strategies and organizing methods for the current historical period and never resort to dogmatism

>>806972
"how many peoples wars have you waged"

>>806970
she's anti ICE. that's good. what are her other positions? if she is an anti zionist and not a rapist or a nazi she is a better candidate than platner was and i could urge mainers to vote for her

>>806970
Platner dropping out was a strategic error on his part. The right-wing realized a decade ago that if you strongly deny an accusation it becomes a game of "he said, she said". You only give it power if you want to. That's even true for provable things.
By bowing to pressure he handed the race to Collins. They will not find someone to replace him, there will be too many bitter "Platner or bust" voters.
But of course this is all the fault of the Zionist lobby and this is their victory.

>>806977
>The right-wing realized a decade ago that if you strongly deny an accusation it becomes a game of "he said, she said".
Right wing politicians enjoy an electorate of sadistic vice-signaling illiterates, but for a left leaning audience being a nazi rapist does not fly.

>>806980
Maine voters would disagree.

This is obviously a psyop, I wouldn't be surprised if in real life she's just an ordinary CIA agent and just put on a dress to produce another optics nuke and make the transgender boogeyman even bigger in the eyes of the goyim.

>>806980
>we leftists are so much smarter than those degenerates

Why do leftists always come up with these self righteous proclamations of moral superiority

>>806970
She isn’t saying or acting any different from the more average more aesthetically-suited politicians. She only looks bad because she’s transgender and not in a formal suit and because she’s got a husky physique

>>806973
jewish nigger

>>807015
glowies didnt like this one

>>807012
Because literally everybody is morally superior to that scum? Thats not a controversial statement, even if you judged them purely by their own moral standards they fail to live up to them. Their kind is a disease upon humanity, driven purely by spite and sadism, devoid of any positive qualities. Their existence is fundamentally incompatible with an open democratic society.

>>807018
That kind of sociopathology isn’t special to them. Radlibs are the same way as well.
Even people on here.

>>807025
I mean riding with democrats is a farse but an independent working class party using electoral platform for pointing out the contradictions of the very system on a widely publicly witnessed stage is useful

>>806970
Which communists said that?

>>807044
Gender dysphoria

> while unironically expecting the working class to vote
is that so

>>807051
No, gender dysphoria is merely common in trans people, not a root cause of it. Gender dysphoria is also common in cis people, just they have easier access to care for that and thus get to the point of gender euphoria much easier.

>>807073
Woketards destroyed trans activism

>>807012
because they are morally superior, even the smarter rightoids like Richard Hanania has come to realise this.

>>80702
radlibs at least pretend to read, to have an ideological understanding of the world, and to improve the human condition in general.

>>807076
so fvcking trve…

>>807073
also shut up philosophytube

>>807044
underlying condition like gender dysphoria probably caused by some kind of developmental screwup in the womb.
<so why did it get more common recently if its always been like this?
because the internet has increased awareness that transitioning is possible (both to people who want to transition, and to those who don't but now know being transgender is "a thing" and not just like, one local transsexual weirdo), increased awareness of how you go about it, and mostly importantly in numbers terms, reduced the social risks of doing so. (now even if all your IRL friends and family abandon you over it, you can still have online friends)

>>807098
Again, this is kinda big stretch.
>radlibs at least pretend to read, to have an ideological understanding of the world, and to improve the human condition in general.

Radlibs aren’t all well read and they just wanna push their agenda onto others just like their right wing counterparts
They waste alot of time and money on virtue signaling laws/rallies.

>>807013
>She isn’t saying or acting any different from the more average more aesthetically-suited politicians
>>806983
>This is obviously a psyop, I wouldn't be surprised if in real life she's just an ordinary CIA agent

you cant possibly believe that

>>807110
I can be very succinct: they virtue signal, right-wingers vice signal. One is clearly superior to the other.

>>807073
What is the root cause of transness?

>>807175
Cisgenderism creates transness. People are assigned genders at birth, and people that don't maintain the kayfabe of cisgenderism by identifying with their assigned gender are trans.

I nooticed there is a negative selection effect within the transgender demographic where the most degenerate elements make an active effort to stand out and represent their community while the normal to excellent elements prefer to stay out of the spotlight.
This is the opposite for homosexual males where the most presentable outliers are encouraged to get the spotlight and the degenerate elements are only known as quasi cryptids that haunt grindr and shady fist-fucking clubs despite being equaly as numerous, if not more numerous.
I wonder how much of this was caused by transgenders internalizing 2010 leftism-radfem-decolonial slop where beauty and excellence equals white equals hitler equals BAD so they let the most mentally ill ugly uyghas be the local kommissar-priest. You can see it even on "dissident" places like /lgbt/ where they always greatly recent other transgenders that are more good looking or well off than them. Gay guys werent affected by such moralfag bullshit because they just want to FUCK HOT BUSSY, and lesbians were always pretty lame and overweight and not relevant anyway.
Any actual transgender to confirm my theory?

>>807217
I have an easier explanation: AGP vs HSTS

>>807217
>I nooticed there is a negative selection effect within the transgender demographic where the most degenerate elements make an active effort to stand out and represent their community while the normal to excellent elements prefer to stay out of the spotlight.
Yes.
>I wonder how much of this was caused by transgenders internalizing 2010 leftism-radfem-decolonial slop where beauty and excellence equals white equals hitler equals BAD so they let the most mentally ill ugly uyghas be the local kommissar-priest
No. You are a fascist.
>You can see it even on "dissident" places like /lgbt/ where they always greatly recent other transgenders that are more good looking or well off than them.
Ever heard of nietzschean ressentiment, buddy?

It's literally just assimilation vs liberation. You don't have to blame le woke on it, you fucking chud.
Trans folks that stay out of the spotlight actually care about their social status, so they either stealth or are non-chalant about it. People that don't, don't. Not caring about your social status usually comes with a lot of things that tend to negatively impact how onlookers see you. OP vidrel is Exhibit A.

>>807222
Back to 4tran with you.

>>807222
That doesnt make sense because the better elements of the transgenders are pretty much all AGP. Chevalier D'Eon, Wendy Carlos, the Matrix director, Amanda Lear, Lynn Conway, Caitlyn Jenner, that homeschooled california math genuis that made the news, Hunter Schafer.
HSTS are low autism score prostitutes that dies of AIDS and/or overdose on the pavement at the age of 30, they alos rarely takes their transition and their female identification seriously unlike the AGP.
>>807227
>No. You are a fascist.
You just said it was ressentiment at their better thus agreeing with me.

>>807239
>You just said it was ressentiment at their better thus agreeing with me.
That was the case for /tttt/ transhumanists in particular, and the source of their ressentiment isn't "leftist-radfem-decolonial slop", but the toxic attitudes of their peers and the pressure of conventional beauty standards. You will notice that reddit transhumanists, being the face of the liberationist thought, are actually calling everyone hecking valid etc., and they genuinely believe that, and that they're helping.

>>807239
>That doesnt make sense because the better elements of the transgenders are pretty much all AGP

What’s up with this gyno worship?
Not all transgenders are AGP. And you’re forgetting about FTM.
What about AAP?

>>807227
>No. You are a fascist.

Anon isn’t entirely wrong though.
Also can we stop calling everyone that rustles your feathers as “fascists”?

>>807173
Both leftists and rightists virtue signaling and vice signal

>>807217
This phenomenon you’re describing isn’t limited to trans.
A lot of gay guys also seem to have resentment towards better looking gay guys, accusing them of shallowness. Same for gay girls.

And it’s also prominent in cishet circles most of all. The constant complaints about lookism and stereotypes of good looking men as narcissists and wife beaters.

There are blogs that celebrate awkwardness and ugliness as virtues, claiming that it means you’re honest and sincere.

A lot of our pop cultural critics complain about Mary Sues, accusing them of promoting fakeness. On the other hand, they drool over toxic or excessively awkward characters as “relatable”.

Suaveness, worldliness, lovey-dicey was and physical beauty as co-existing personality traits are condemned in protagonists as promoting “pedophilia”, objectification, or “gender role stereotypes”.

>>807255
Only in very broad aggregates, but also not really. The zeal of the Stalinist LARPer about executing Romanov children, while sometimes vice signalling, takes place in a basically virtue signalling framework (look how far I'll go to build a better society for everyone / cruelty as a means) while the zeal of the average Trump-type or Nazi for deportations or arbitrary detention or whatever takes place in a basically vice-signalling framework (cruelty as an end, even if you were to demonstrate that this was not an effective means of building their ideal society they would just laugh about how it's based anyway.)

The skeleton key to this is the right's underlying love of "owning the libs", leftists do not really have an "Owning the libs" tendency. Insofar as a Stalinist tries to own the libs, he posts industrial production figures or "who put what in space first" charts. When a rightist tries to own the libs, he winds up somewhere between rolling coal, 'jakposting about transgender suicide, and the whitehouse posting crying families being deported on Twitter.
(Rolling coal perhaps being the archetypal example. You make your truck waste more of your money to annoy environmentalists that live in your head rent free?)

There is no leftist "based ritual" ( https://www.richardhanania.com/p/the-based-ritual ) and psychologically speaking: The left would be plenty viable in a world without the right (consider that the average left-wing website slop is an article about some dead martyr'd leftist and how nice they were. Take away the martyr-makers and you're still left with the article!), while the right would sincerely struggle in a world without the left and hated-minorities. (consider that the average right-wing website slop is an article about ethnic minority criminals, transgender people, immigrants, seething that countries trade, etc. Take away the outgroup and you've got nothing!)

>>807267
>Only in very broad aggregates, but also not really. The zeal of the Stalinist LARPer about executing Romanov children, while sometimes vice signalling, takes place in a basically virtue signalling framework (look how far I'll go to build a better society for everyone / cruelty as a means) while the zeal of the average Trump-type or Nazi for deportations or arbitrary detention or whatever takes place in a basically vice-signalling framework (cruelty as an end, even if you were to demonstrate that this was not an effective means of building their ideal society they would just laugh about how it's based anyway.)

Now this is major copium.
The Stalinist LARPer who rationalizes killing children for heir parents sin is vice-signaling. He’s just using “for the proletariat” as a convenient cover.

That’s the same rationale that the right uses. Punishing children because of what the adults did.

Virtue signaling would at the least have those kids being re-educated.

>The skeleton key to this is the right's underlying love of "owning the libs", leftists do not really have an "Owning the libs" tendency. Insofar as a Stalinist tries to own the libs, he posts industrial production figures or "who put what in space first" charts. When a rightist tries to own the libs, he winds up somewhere between rolling coal, 'jakposting about transgender suicide, and the whitehouse posting crying families being deported on Twitter.
(Rolling coal perhaps being the archetypal example. You make your truck waste more of your money to annoy environmentalists that live in your head rent free?)


You keep using the Stalinist larper as a leftist analogue for right wing inclinations.
Also, there’s a lot of “own the right” on the leftist side but it’s not as prominently advertised as much. At least outside of Leftypol and Leftychan.

How many expose threads are there on here about some right winger getting caught in 4k over CP or adultery or toddler/teen molestation or some academic inaccuracies in political cartoons?

Along with constant stereotyping chuds as being all physiognomically and socially challenged and being pedophilic if they like anime.

Also, leftists do try hard to “own da libs” by doing comparison pics of overdeveloped uncoordinated cities in capitalistic nations compared to more simple decent urban planning of socialist nations

>There is no leftist "based ritual" ( https://www.richardhanania.com/p/the-based-ritual ) and psychologically speaking: The left would be plenty viable in a world without the right (consider that the average left-wing website slop is an article about some dead martyr'd leftist and how nice they were. Take away the martyr-makers and you're still left with the article!), while the right would sincerely struggle in a world without the left and hated-minorities. (consider that the average right-wing website slop is an article about ethnic minority criminals, transgender people, immigrants, seething that countries trade, etc. Take away the outgroup and you've got nothing!)

Again, for the third time, copium.
Leftists do have “based” rituals.
All the talk about spiting patriarchy and constant criticism of male-oriented nuances/activities, complaints about how capitalism is affecting prospects of getting laid, whining about any and every piece of action-adventure media as “promoting imperialism”.

Also, believe it or not, right wing chat spaces can and do exist without leftism or minorities. In fact, if you studied the majority of right wing journalist pieces, they focus more on domestic civil aesthetics
They cry more about “decline of religion” or “decline of birth rates” above all else.
They also especially antagonize young people for having differing cultural practices than their elders.

>>807286
you dropped this

>>807286
If you're exclusively talking about the romanovs, it was a quick decision made on the fly to stop the white army from having something to rally around, it was not made to punish them, there is no time for re-education in the middle of a civil war, and it's still killing their parents in front of them, not the best childhood memory.

>>807291
Is that a fan blade for a “special Ed cap”? If so, I take it that you’re triggered?

>>807292
That’s funny because that’s the same kind of rationale that the right uses against troubled youths or ethnic petit offenders