Don't really have much to add to this other than i personally dislike them, its not like i'm some social outcast hating or anything but generally they seem unaware, rude, slow, etc and im not talking about 'purposefully cringe people' or those who just follow trends(i still am but not in particular) im talking in generality their sports, the music they listen to, the trends they switch to and from, their interpretations of the world and medias, im just growing to hate them.
Yes, it’s certainly important what sports people like or what music they listen to. Good call.
>>807539 Its important to learn but not get into them the medias specifically the entertainment sector is used heavily by the ruling class to maintain social order
>>807564Honestly I think the idea that entertainment is being used for willful social pecking order is over done.
Entertainment only reflects the biases of people, but it doesn’t really maintain pecking order directly
>>807571 I was referring to gramscis theory of hegemony
>>807627>I dislike that they are jugmental fucks who will spin entire story in their head because you maintained eye contact for 0.2 second longer than conventionalThis. The “Gen Z stare” meme is just that.
>They dont know how to properly string a sentence together, but will sure as fuck blame any resulting misunderstandings of you. They will openly discriminate against you for the most minute insignificant transgression, and if you dare to show any resentment over it they just use it as a proof to retrospectively justify all their mistreatment. Fuck them. Fuck them all.Welcome to living in the ghetto
You're a normie too.
Artists roam the world of artists, philosophers roam the world of philosophers, criminals roam the world of criminals. If you mainly find yourself roaming the world of normies, it is because you are a normie.
I agree, but… isn't this site called LEFTYpol? What about the struggle for proletarian rights (essentially normies)?
>>807643This.
In fact, I find the biggest complaint me about normies often come from other normies
Real non-normies would be shunned by the “anti-normie” crowd
A lot of “anti-normies” are easily disgusted by more surreal nuanced forms of humor/entertainment.
>>807529Liking popular things doesn't negate liking unpopular things, infact if you can't justify your worldview from first principles without appealing to a source outside yourself you have no basis to say you're better than them other than sentiment or ego
>>807646I dont give a flying fuck about proletariat, they are relevant insofar they are the only class with potential of burning this rotten world down. A job of a communist is trying to herd this mass of retards into a desired direction.
>>807678Mao spoke of this.
>>807678>the proletariat are a herd of retards that are only good for “le revolution”And when I said that socialism shares some commonality with fascism I got banned for that
>>807682>This thing a single person on an anonymous imageboard said absolutely defines the entirety of socialist ideologyretard
>>807688Eugene has decided that /siberia/ was the socialist high command, I don't know how he doesn't become insane
>>807690>I don't know how he doesn't become insaneHe clearly is.
>>807688>>807690>>807692This board calls everything they don’t like as “fascist”
The common opinion on here is “liberals are fascist lite”
There are people on here saying “proles are dumb they’re only useful for the revolution” and that’s not shot down.
>>807690Stop flattering yourself. That man hasn’t been on here for ages.
This place only cares about relevance at the end of the day anyway
You all have a TikTok channel and even seriously suggest putting ads on 4chan to get converts
>>807529there isn't really such a thing as normies anymore, at least not under the age of ~35. normies are just people you don't have a high-enough resolution picture of to see the ways in which they are freaks.
>>807627this borders on a human universal.
>>807678first you'd have to herd the retarded mass of communists into some coherent direction. no matter how bad you think things are, you haven't known pain until you've seriously looked at a western communist party and seen the gulf between its purported aspirations (communism! revolution!) and its reality (LARPing and not even good LARPing because they don't know it's a LARP and act more like a cult.)
>>807757>there isn't really such a thing as normies anymore, at least not under the age of ~35.Wrong. There is such thing as normies. Especially for the under thirty-five crowd.
> normies are just people you don't have a high-enough resolution picture of to see the ways in which they are freaks. There’s a difference between actual degeneracy and modest flaws. We live in an age where common flaws are dramatized for clout. That’s as normie as you can get.
>first you'd have to herd the retarded mass of communists into some coherent direction. no matter how bad you think things are, you haven't known pain until you've seriously looked at a western communist party and seen the gulf between its purported aspirations (communism! revolution!) and its reality (LARPing and not even good LARPing because they don't know it's a LARP and act more like a cult.)At this point, it’s not just western parties.
Even outside of the Americas and Western Europe, we still have to deal with these farces.
And it’s right wing counterparts are the same way.
>>807627 this sounds familiar but you're a faggot so who cares
>>807643 im talking about like at school
>>807646 Yeah but thats just me following my philosophy not because i like them
>>807770If you think herd mentality is bad in school, wait until you get into the adult world
But anyways, the peer pressure/hive mind mentality that affects schools is due to design.
Modern schools operate on artificial approach to socialization.
Are you aware of the origins of the K-12 education system?
>>807773 id rather not think about lol i don't even really wanna graduate and yes but mayb not in the way you're referring so no
>>807744 i don't think we should moralfag like this at all it's one persons opinion ic obviously isnt the popular one
>>807757 what are you saying gramps lmao my generation is full of trendhoppers who became reactionary because they saw a retard on instagram i hate you all
>>807650 arguing a point nobody made btw
>>807784 okay i see why the jannies ban posts like this (even doe hes right becaue hes in the us)
>>807744fascists are liberals lite
>>807793Do any of you do any serious reading at all? Fascism is nothing like liberalism
>>807782Just like every generation before and after
>>807781Who are you accusing of moralfagging?
>>807780Wdym you don’t wanna graduate?
Also explain how much you know about the history of public education
>>807690>I don't know how he doesn't become insaneMy brother in christ this uygha is absolutely psychiatric.
If the Revolution ended in a reaction, this only showed what the Revolution really was. For every effort arrives at reaction when it comes to discreet reflection, and storms forward in the original action only so long as it is an intoxication, an “indiscretion.” “Discretion” will always be the cue of the reaction, because discretion sets limits, and liberates what was really wanted, that is, the principle, from the initial “unbridledness” and “unrestrainedness.” Wild young fellows, bumptious students, who set aside all considerations, are really philistines, since with them, as with the latter, considerations form the substance of their conduct; only that as swaggerers they are mutinous against considerations and in negative relations to them, but as philistines, later, they give themselves up to considerations and have positive relations to them. In both cases all their doing and thinking turns upon “considerations,” but the Philistine is reactionary in relation to the student; he is the wild fellow come to discreet reflection, as the latter is the unreflecting philistine. Daily experience confirms the truth of this transformation, and shows how the swaggerers turn to philistines in turning gray.
>>807824Wdymnt?
Is this another liberal turned conservative?
>>807529Being a normie is more than just an obsession with goy ball or an inability to foster deep seated outrage at a rigged system. Even a complete sociopath is more respectable than a neurotypical. You yourself, are probably neurotypical.
What it really comes down too is complacency and a lack of priority. Take for example I was on roll20 and this guy was going on and on about how he wanted to build a rogue trader game from the ground up. I could tell he was being genuine (a not normie trait) but strangled his own autonomy whining about AI
The uyghur probably has no fucking clue how ai algorithms work. His entire moral foundation is hyper socialized masturbation curated by reddit. That's not real life, and furthermore reddit hates you. Reddit would literally kill you if they thought it would be ok. But they're also incredibly pathetic. While the entirety of their existence as moderators is indeed violent, they would never commit to a constructive retaliation against a perceived wrong without the approval of some imaginary superior.
Normies crave authority, and validation from that authority. They don't care if they go hungry, if their dicks fall off from loneliness, if they're banned from everything, humiliated, assaulted, degraded, all they fucking care about is what they think others care about and they don't, because normies don't actually care about anything besides optics.
What makes revolution is just saying "now I'm in charge. Noone elected me, noone gave me permission, I'm taking this from you. Go sit down in your cuck chair or I will fucking kill you"
That's how you talk to them.
They're not real people.
They never wanted to be.
The concept of the normie has long outlived it usefulness.
Someone give me an actual definition of a normie. Because as far as im concerned, its just another case of "outgroup bad, ingroup good"
>>807853"There are no normies anymore" is a peak normie statement. People here already gave you definitions, its those who adhere to and enforce conventions, no matter how meaningless they might be.
>>807853 the definition hasn't changed moron
>>807801 problem?
>>807797 I don't wanna walk the stage i meant and i know about manns lobbying and how the entire format was made to subordinate childeren to turn them into workers
>>807796 who ever i responded to saying that the post that said "all proles are dumb and only useful to revolution" should be banned
>>807920> who ever i responded to saying that the post that said "all proles are dumb and only useful to revolution" should be bannedAnd yet, when I say “socialism as fascism share some commonalities”, people wanna an me for saying that.
You’re okay with patronizing the proletariat as long as it’s for “le glorious revolution”
>>807935 thats not okay either because we do lmao
>>807935>when I say “socialism as fascism share some commonalities”, people wanna an me for saying that.Because thats lazy meaningless observation. You can say that about everything, everything shares "some commonalities". Write a proper argument and people will engage in honest discussion.
>>807942You know what’s a lazy meaningless piece?
Saying that fascism is liberalism.
People on here be saying that shit a lot without any further clarification.
>>807949And they are fucking retards, doesnt mean you should join them.
>>807942Why don’t you say this towards people who say “liberalism is fascism”?
Everytime there’s discussion about US imperialism, I always see this sentiment being uttered. Yet I never see any clarification explaining why.
Nobody gets told to write a paragraph about why liberalism is fascism.
But apparently I get told this when I say there’s commonality between socialism and fascism
>>807951And yet they’re not criticized nor condemned.
Really shows how shallow this place is.
>>807949>Other people do X, therefore I am not only justified to do X, but I am actually right when I do it.End your life.
normies are everything. lack of normies is a lack of purpose. like kim il sung said, the people/normies are my God and i mean that unironically
>>807954I take it you’re a bot?
I mean I could kms but most of you already talk about wanting to self-delete because of “le fascsist menace”
>>807957This.
The people who whine about normies are the ones who are always the biggest dependents on them. They wouldn’t last a second with actual non-normies
>>807952If you hate the double standard, destroy the double standard, don't flip it around.
>>807964Don’t preach at me.
I know you’re not gonna give everyone else lip.
>>807971Are you the same guy arguing "marxism and christianity are the same" on that other thread?
>>807974No, but I don’t disagree with it
>>807981 I take it you’re obsessed with me. Anon are you ok?
Are you on the rag?
Why do my opinions trigger you so much?
There’s plenty of other things to be more upset about.
>>807961 doesnt mean anyone has to like them especially when its obviously a personal distaste
>>807983its an Anonymous imageboard no one gives a shit about you dumbass
>>807995I don’t say no, but there’s far too much whining about “normies” by people who are easily disgusted by surreal/quaint non-normie things.
>>807997Idk. With all this constant butthurt and summoning mods to ban people for “reactionary” opinions you’d think it the opposite.
>>807998 op isnt even whining hes literally just asking a question moron and what they said completely fits the definition of normie and is justified
>>808003>op isn’t whining he’s just asking a question moron
>also what he said is completely justified Where is the question? It sounds like he’s venting.
And how is what he said “valid”?
>>807957This.
All the talk about “revolution” will never happen.
Leftypol will forever only do praxis on Minecraft, because they cannot be bothered to empathize with “normies”
>>808005 thread is titled thoughts on normies and you cant start a thread without typing so they just put in their two cents (look at first sentence) because its just his opinion to give as they were asking for?
>>808008He’s looking for other people that agree with him
>>807529why do you hate them? what have they done to merit hatred? why do you think yourself better than them for having whatever fringe autistic hyperfixations other people don't care about?
>>808203 what does it matter? and i don't think of myself as better (not by that metric atleast) but to say the least they're unaware not only of themselves but of the world around them, the concepts they ""learn"" about, the media they consume, others and things they do that affects them, etc
>>808009 I'm not at the time i was just bored in class and wanted to know what others were thinking
>>808316Contrary to what others on here will say, you may find a lot more relief when your schooldays are over.
Most of these so called “anti normies” are all just miserable wallflowers reminiscing over their unfulfilled teenage quests
>>808315>I’m bad but at least I’m not THAT badThis is literally the definition of a normie. They always think they’re the only ones self aware of personal flaws
>>808315>what does it matterself reflection. inquiry into your own thoughts based on your feeling of hatred
>i don't think of myself as betteryou literally wrote so yourself in your OP
>they're unaware not only of themselveslike you, who isn't able or at least willed to give further reason for the hatred you feel
>but of the world around themif you were more aware of said world, you maybe would be more understanding
>the concepts they ""learn"" aboutsee above. you act as if people choose to be ignorant per se or are 'worse' because they have differing interests
>the media they consumei don't think people listening to spotify charts or using insta/tiktok merits hatred
>others and things they do that affects them?
i'm not trying to dunk on you or to rile you up. rather, i encourage you to do what you expect of others.
>>808453This.
A lot of people like to look down on younger people for “normie” interests
>>807782That’s a gross generalization.
>>807920>I don't wanna walk the stage i meant and i know about manns lobbying and how the entire format was made to subordinate childeren to turn them into workers Wrong on the last part. It’s not about making children into good workers because most academia seems to run antithetical to the working world
There’s been a massive divide between academic skills and industrial skills of the past century.
>>808453>i suppose, I don't hate them perse i guess i feel indifferent to them until i am put in there peripheries where i start to reflect on myself>you wrote so yourselfid consider any marxist better than any normie but yeah i should've clarified by metric
>like you blah blahno im just not gonna write out some paragraph explaining feelings towards peoples i don't even know (beside i know where but im not on anon rn)
>of the world around them"around them" i dont want to understand the world around them its almost completely built by the ruling class
>people choose to be ignorantin the era of their prized politicians eating babies they actively choose to not look deeper and instead focus on their contemporary interests they are worse for that
>media they consumei think it does especially when alot of them believe in demonic control of these medias to influence them and continue to consume it
>?they're unaware of others and things they do that affects them in their day to day lives
not doing allat jfl
>>808331 i never said that doe
>>808521that's normal,all those jobs are expected to be done by the uneducated,so that even if they're extremely important,you can keep their wages low
>>807529I would love to wave a magic wand and get rid of mass entertainment and see what happens. I would guess mass societal crackup but maybe everyone would be normal and just go outside more. But one theory is that entertainment was a necessary pacification tool. It doesn't even matter so much what they show on television and other screens, as long as everyone is dazzled and wastes their time on it. They could get hot people reading Marx, doesn't matter.
>>809154why are so many retards here actual neonazis pushing nazi policy?
>>809154People still go outside and are normal
Also, before the days of mass entertainment, we had people indulging in gossip and superstition. People used to go on witch hunts.
>>809173Because they’re miserable
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