I leave for a few days and this is the shitshow I come back to. God you twats need to read more.
>>808403>massive strawman non argument that misses the fact that Nolan was positioning this film as being "grounded" rather than the obviously semi-mythical legend that the story is. >comparing it to older depictions that are clearly going for a <muh pasty anglos Tell me how I know you're a self-hating, self-important burger without telling me.
>>809047>When did that happen?The trailers other marketing ploys for one thing and then various interviews where the cast members say crap like 'the Odyssey doesn't give enough female perspective'. The entire point of the story is that mortals despite their pride and greed are playthings of the gods and therefore must be humble and behave honorably or will be punished. The male god Poseidon is the antagonist, and the hero is Athena, who repeatedly leads the otherwise helpless characters to resolution and peace and essentially is the writer of the story more or less, hence why she is the goddess of cleverness and warfare and so on. Women are a central axiom of the entire story, the thing that drives men forward to survive.
>How do you know that? By being alive and having eyes and ears. Marketing for the 1997 miniseries was minimal, interviews too, and none of them flaunted "muh women" or "muh race" in the context of performative identity politics as people did for this movie.
>>808993 This is a completely inane reframing of mythology, history and the story.
>slavesNope
>muh war crimes Moralism on events from early History
>Muh lootIt's a story, it's not about the loot, it was never about the loot.
>>809044 So you're not a femcel, you're a white knight.
>he gets mad and goes on a murder spree when a bunch of hound dogs are trying to bang his female property She didn't want to marry them you deliberately obtuse fuck, they were pressuring her into marriage and being sleazy fucks after a political position of KING through marriage. Not to mention the plot to kill her son.
>I read the odyssey… oh … 20 years ago, in middle school You did not read The Odyssey in Middle School. The Odyssey is 500+ pages in small print. Whether history or literature you would have to spend an entire semester AT MINIMUM just for analysis on part of the book, especially as it is part of the Trojan Cycle and requires the context of said cycle. If somehow they only assigned a portion of the book then your teacher did you a disservice.
>war crimes You don't seem to understand what that term means, as you throw it about so casually. You sound like those libs that call any mass death a "genocide" without understanding what defines the term.
>there's a lot of drama around whether she keeps her "purity" She's a married woman with a son, it's not about purity. It's about loyalty to the man she loves among other things
>since he fucks goddesses Yeah you definitely didn't read the book. Calypso seduces and enchants Odysseus with magic, but he eventually breaks out of it. Odysseus resisted and wished to kill Circe but was ordered by Hermes to not refuse her offer, he still refuses to stay with her and she gives him guidance to survive Scylla and Charbydis. In both contexts of the story it wasn't by his own will.
In the films Circe outright forces him into a deal and tricks him by having him stay there for years under illusion. Calypse even more so, given that he is shipwrecked and she uses magic to entrance him.
TL;DR: You're blatantly misrepresenting shit.
>>809103 Liberal infighting at its finest.
>>809106Oh look at the internet toughguy routine! uygha you're on a half-rotted chinese chopstick carving forum, eat shit.
>“woke” messages in media were ubiquitous 20 years No, they weren't. 20 years ago the social context was different and the way it was done was different. For example; When you got a race or sex based discrimination episode in a childrens cartoon things could be pretty blatant because its FOR CHILDREN and even then had nuances that are missing today. People didn't raceswap to flex how liberal they were, but for either concrete reasons or for fun. People making Calypso black in the 97 film wasn't a deliberate choice made because
"oh this will appeal to those ni- *cough* those african-americans!".
Furthermore society of the past and now are entirely different. Today even a vague joke like laughing about the word "nega" gets people frothing at the mouth about "racism!" I have never seen a public example of racial discrimination in the past 15 years outside of some headlines, and those are as reliable as Hitler on a meth binge.