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It seems completely random, but spiritually it's the same principle. Westoids are as viscerally opposed to the notion of communism for the same reason Yugioh hates on stun. Cause ain't nobody getting shit. It's simple. Whenever they permit "socialism" it's radlib garbage like fascism or Trotsky precisely because the diff between control vs stun let's these sweats FEEL like their gay child porn game is still the same and just raises the skill ceiling.


A card that says "you can only special summon once per turn if you have more than 7000 life points" is so easy to navigate through it isn't stun, it's just gatekeeping the rogue decks that don't need gatekeeping anyway. But you write "only winged beasts and rocks can be special summoned" and everyone becomes pantied and sissified.

You know why I like stun? Cause now we both miserable. That's communism baby. Fuck you, we both digging holes or mining for coal, all the rich people are dead. If we're not a pussy, we push through and go home to unfiltered cigarettes and PlayStation for days. We get paid in scratch offs to be the next Stalin. But that's not what the vast majority wants.

They WANT systemic racism, they WANT sexism vs hypergamy, they WANT laws that don't mean anything and are just unenforceable nonsense. They want their cops harassing them over bullshit while paedophiles do heinous acts on private islands, they want bureaucracy, and most of all they want their children's genitals hanging out "but actually she's a 3000 year old vampire/pornhub says she's of age in Uganda"

Communism is not populism. Fuck populism, fuck the masses, fuck democracy. It's misery,. It's despair, its death, it's what you deserve.

But it is what I want. Gibs me.dat. Permanent revolution.

long ass vibes based analysis and class not mentioned even once

This OP more proof that leftist imageboards are no different from their right-wing counterparts

>>808784
>communism is miserable
yeah but so is capitalism. why can't you just be miserable under capitalism? you already are, right? everyone else is, too. it's just that some of those people have money and you don't. nobody is really happy, y'know, except for a small few who have found the mental and spiritual wherewithal to find happiness within themselves.

plus sexism, racism, hypergamy, etc. can also exist under any other political or economic system, because that's some idpol type shit right there.

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>>808784
>Communism is not populism. Fuck populism, fuck the masses, fuck democracy.
That's obvious.

>communism is miserable

Of course it's gonna be a step down if you're in the middle classes or above. It's the real movement of the immiserated wage workers for a reason.

>>808793
Then why did Marx describe communism as the free association of producers.

>>808796
The free association of producers is literally free market neoliberalism (i.e., roughly what the US has now). It is definitely the best form of political economy. The government just needs to step in for certain cases of major inelasticity or particularly egregious laborer abuses by employers or externalities imposed by organizational structures like corporations, unions, etc.

Social-democratic neoliberalism is the obvious end state of history, with or without eventual ASI takeover. It will be briefly interrupted by foolish attempts at communist and fascist revolutions but all will inevitably converge to the common-sense pragmatic basics.

>>808793
>Of course it's gonna be a step down if you're in the middle classes or above. It's the real movement of the immiserated wage workers for a reason.

If that was true, why were so many people trying to escape the Soviet Union? Most of these people weren’t all bourgeois people either

>>808814
>so many people
How do you define so many ? In absolute numbers, in proportion ? What happens to the argument if I said "so many more wanted to stay"? Is it valid ?

>>808829
Why do you anons on here always keep dodging the question about why so many Eastern Europeans keep trying to flee Soviet rule?

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>>808789
>leftist imageboards
no such thing

>>808831
well they can stop, soviet rule hasn't been a thing for more than thirty years.

>>809043
Neither is 9/11 been a thing for over two decades yet people won’t stop taking about it

>>809040
There’s no such thing as communist imageboards. But there’s plenty of leftist takes

>>808811
Dumbfuck.

>>808796
What does even have to do with the high chances that the petit-bourgeois and above are gonna have comparatively worse living standards under communism, at least in the first generations? Maybe some failing small business owners and the sort are gonna live better but that's it.

>>808831
it's called disagreeing with the premise,you can't answer a question if you think the premise is false in the first place

>>808784
what an unusual post.
t. anti-populist communist, but for the opposite reason: that populists want misery, despair, and death, while i am for joy, rising expectations, and life.

>>808793
i don't accept this notion that it's a step down for middle class workers. a prole today lives better than many medieval nobles in almost any material sense you care to measure while his relative social status is at-worst the same. why would developing the productive forces even more make us worse off? even if the curve equalises (e.g. poorer people get better off faster than richer people) i can see no reason to imagine an absolute decline except an underlying calvinist love of misery.
even for petit bourgeois, what they're likely to lose is not so much material status (at least at the small proprietor end. many small business owners are perpetually broke and would in net-position at least be better off under communism.) as social status (e.g. they'll no longer be able to boss others around as the owner.)

>>808811
i will undermine the appeal of my points to say that while a tempered form of neoliberalism is, in fact, the best system we've found so far, what the US has now has proven disastrous. "actually existing neoliberalism" focused too much on tax cuts and fiscal rectitude and not enough on deregulation, so a bunch of petit-bourg weirdoes in regulated and protected sectors like car dealerships, soda bottling, agriculture, etc, bankroll a republican party which has turned sharply against trade and picked up a fetish for utterly arbitrary economic interventions and open corruption, and they do so mostly because they resent that "coastal elite PMC" (e.g. upper-proles) have more cultural status than them despite not being business owners.
in the UK, where Thatcher barely deregulated and mostly privatised industries into state-regulated LARP markets precisely because she feared the social consequences of real competition - undermining Britain's insular ruling class with market discipline - is it any wonder that the reactionary tilt has been particularly severe?

in another world, neoliberals would've been twice as deregulatory and twice as welfarist. in my view, this is the best path to developing the productive forces to a situation where socialism (of some new sort) and communism can then arise. unfortunately, the emotive appeal of neoliberalism has always been with sociopaths, selfish bastards, and (in the 90s onwards at least) "reasonableness fetishists", so they've never really understood the implications of their own theories. (except a handful of academic econ types who will occasionally realise the insane implications of their charts, that if we really stripped the deadwood we'd find an unimaginable boon.)

>>808814
>>808831
while i'm not going to simp for the soviet system (its collapse speaks for itself), a certain degree of emigration is basically inevitable. soviet net emigration was ~0.2% while the UK hit ~0.39% in 1970 and ireland hit ~0.9%. east germany was much higher at 4% during the berlin wall period, but they weren't really "emigrating" so much as moving within a split germany. (For comparison: 4.7% of british people move to a different council area each year) when the USSR collapsed, russia saw ~2% emigration (mostly from minorities like germans, jews, etc.) but net immigration as russians from elsewhere in the former USSR moved to Russia. this should put to bed any serious notion that people were moving for living standards (moving to 90s russia!?) rather than for other, more mixed reasons. (like intellectual objections, dislike of the structure of life, family/friends/etc in a foreign country, just wanting a fresh start, etc.)

the big reason for strong controls was to prevent brain drain rather than because the whole population would simply leave if allowed to do so. most people are quite good at resigning themselves to their station in life, living by default, and have to be forced to hope for better things. more generally, the reason for such a controlling structure over life in general is due to the states themselves having an underlying weakness and an insecure hold on power. bourgeois sentiments were criminalised because the state was not strong enough to allow for impotent dissent. (whereas the status quo is quite comfortable with us posting harmlessly on leftypol.org, although recent authoritarian turns are an ominous portent of collapse.)

>>809078
>Neither is 9/11 been a thing for over two decades yet people won’t stop taking about it
Funnily enough, I haven't heard mention of it in ages. all my edgy "I forgot" jokes don't bother anyone any more, not a good analogy.


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