>>810176>The Bible is a much better read than anything Marx wroteI've read the bible cover to cover and some of it is interesting but a lot of it is very very dull.
>Marx cannot explain fundamental questions we have about realityI don't even know why you're comparing apples to oranges here except for the fact that you got it into your head that Marxism is a religion and Das Kapital is a bible for Marxists or something. That's fundamentally mistaken. Das Kapital was meant to explain the Capitalist mode of production in the 19th century. Nothing less, nothing more. Marx isn't trying to explain "the fundamental questions we have about reality" because he is not trying to be an existentialist philosopher or a priest.
> the Bible can and does chime in on that. It really depends on how you read it. Yeah? It's a religious text, it's supposed to do that.
>Your posts amount to: [bunch of shit nobody said]Please. Stop.
>Iron age authors don't like [what] I do (which should be obvious) therefore they are wrong.Didn't say that. Stop.
> I've always found that worldview curious.Please quote something I actually said. I am doing you that courtesy every reply. What happened to "do unto others as you would have others do unto you?" Where is that ethic when you strawman me nonstop? Would you like to be strawmanned? Would you like someone to reply to you, make up a bunch of things you never said, and then attack the made up image in their head? I hope not.
>It assumes there is some authentic, correct world out there that we have grasped but that "superstitious" ancients did not, but this simply ideological. religion often starts with an explanation and works backwards to reinterpret evidence to support that explanation. Science assumes nothing, does experiments, builds models based on observations
> This is rather funny because reddit atheists "REDDIT" atheists is such a tiresome shibboleth because i see it lobbed at agnostics atheists and skeptics in general, whether or not they have liberal politics, whether or not they browse sites like reddit. It's just a thought terminating cliche.
>cannot explain the most fundamental issue (why do things exist?) As soon as you expect a "why" instead of a "what" or a "how" you make yourself vulnerable to emotional manipulation by charlatans.
You can ask "how did we get here?" and get a pretty good answer based on observation and experiments but as soon as you ask "why are we here?" you imply some kind of necessary intentionality behind everything and religion steps in to fill that void with its philosophies and programs of conformity. And that's fine. I don't think religion will ever go away because some people need a herd to follow. That's fine. I don't think they're bad for wanting that.
For me, "Why" is for humans. Humans decide "why" for themselves. But there is no fundamental "why" if the universe does not have an author. Religion starts by assuming the universe does have an author, and then humans create books rituals and doctrines that put words in the mouth of that author God. So to me, Man creates God in his own image, declares it happened the other way around, uses God as a sockpuppet for his own morals and philsophies, to lend himself authority and credibility where there would otherwise be free and open dialog.
If a man says
>you shall not be gay>you shall not work on sunday>you shall not eat shellfishit is hard to justify using his own logic and reason
but if he says
>god said all these things and you will burn in hell if you disagreeit becomes very hard to argue with him, especially if he has entire institutions propping up these ideas.
So that is one of the many functions of religion.
>You have to look at their base beliefs. Communism is a pseudo theology I disagree
>Zizek and Badiou can't stfu about Christian atheism.I despise Zizek and do not regard him as a Communist.
>Salvation from evil, struggle against the forces of darkness, moral discipline, individualism, freedom of conscience, abolition of private property etc. all of this is mined from Protestant theology. The struggle between communism and capitalism is an extension of the Reformation.Do you think Protestantism invented those things or has a monopoly on those things? do you think if a religious person comes up with an idea it is an inherently religious idea? Descartes was religious and invented the coordinates. Am I doing a religious ritual every time I plot a point on an X Y plane or am I engaging in a practical behavior meant to achieve some material end?