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Thoughts?

meow.

Thinkin about how I haven't jacked off in like a month and my wife's been outta town for a week and I bet her bi friend would be down to clown.

>>811710
Whats the point of tariffs? Have they ever worked? Thanks to globalization all local industry will eventually be killed and moved somwhere else cheaper or efficient.
Tariffs just end up increasing the cost goods for consumers.

>>811720
>Whats the point of tariffs?
Saving a too big to fail business. Coal mines in the UK under Thatcher and Detroit in the US as an example. It's one of many possible and plausible reasons.

>>811710
A lot of people don't know what "free trade agreements" actually are and Trump's tariffs have been a disaster.

>>811720
True, just subsidize the industry directly until it becomes profitable (and behead the ceo if he just take down the company and pocket the money obviously)

>>811710
Free trade is good and has always been good. It is a good thing if Dems and DSA types, despite their general incompetence, are at least sound on this question.

>>811720
The best theoretical argument for them is that you can protect domestic industries and allow them to build up strength to compete internationally. It is, however, mostly a dumb one which in the modern age is based on prestige considerations. (e.g. thinking there's a meaningful difference between making Japanese cars in the US, and making Ford cars in the US.)

In actuality the best way to develop industry is not to focus on meeting domestic demand, but to focus on exports. You can force miserable products onto the domestic market if they have no alternatives (see India making 1950s British cars decades later) but an export product has to be something people actually want to buy. (e.g. Early South Korean cars were exported at a loss because the government forced the firms in question to export, then, seeking profit, they progressively cut production costs and improved quality until they were profitable. At all points they were offering a car people would choose to buy at its price point.)

>>811726
Tariffs couldn't have saved British coal. First because British coal was not killed on fundamentally economic grounds (coal mining operations broke even, it lost money due to pension and land damage payments… which had to be paid even after British Coal was shut down) but basically as a political move to crush enemies of the government. A much smarter approach all-around would've been the managed wind-down of the industry by cutting new hiring and letting existing employees age out, only making redundancy payments and firing people when there weren't enough to keep a mine open.

Secondly, and arguably more importantly (because it's independent of these political considerations), because of North Sea oil and gas. Britain had a huge domestic energy supply was more cost competitive with coal, hence why by the 1990s, energy generation shifted dramatically over to gas. Even in a world where coal imports were tariffed to be more expensive than domestic coal, there'd still be the problem of domestic coal being more expensive than domestic oil and gas.

>>811743
A funny South Korean anecdote: On taking power, Park Chung Hee had most of the major businessmen in Korea arrested for profiteering (using their licences etc to exploit domestic consumers instead of doing anything productive, which was true) and threatened to confiscate all their property and hit them with huge fines, etc, as punishment. Then he offered them a deal where if they built factories and industrial facilities and (most importantly) hit their required export targets, they'd be pardoned. Naturally, they took the deal. Incredible power-play.


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