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I think a driver of the "Thing, Japan" phenomena is that the western version of stuff tends to be genuinely awful or non-existent, so when people in the west look at how people do things in other countries that are at least competent at it, they're excited to see someone be competent at it. And since Japan is very visible in the west thanks to anime exports, that excitement tends to be directed toward Japan.

I think I've seen this with China and Europe when it comes to trains, and China when it comes to general infrastructure, games and animation.

nah it's just making fun of weebs

>>813438
I do feel it's sometimes in bad faith though.

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Yuropoors will never reach the level of Japanese culture toka nan toka

What if I like western animation more like japanese animation?

>>813486
Japanese animation is a fork of Western animation btw

>>813437
>western version of stuff tends to be genuinely awful or non-existent
"Stuff" in this case just means cartoons. Western cartoons are lame so kids turn to anime, and if they're particularly homosexual their taste in media or life in general never grows beyond "things that remind me of anime".

>>813486
Cartoons are for children.

>>813488
true
t. homosexual

>>813489
Like lost children we live our unfinished adventures.

>>813489
and children are the most oppressed class

thus proletarian(abolished form)

you only find western cartoons to be lame bc thats what you grew up with moron

>>813532
Children and teens find them lame too, compare the popularity among that demographic of anything on Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network (RIP) to the hottest shonen.
Yeah, there's online/indie stuff like TADC that's humongous, but that's a very new phenomenon and we can't be sure of its consequences as of yet. Will it destroy the world? We'll see.

Now it’s the opposite sentiment

People are calling Japan “problematic” especially with its fanservice while praising western culture for doing the same

>>813561
Adults and kids both love western animation. It’s just that right now, western animation has a lot of shows to fill.

>>813570
Quantifiably, objectively, the popularity of anime far dwarfs that of Western animation, i.e., the majority of the potential audience for animation in general rejects the West and embraces the East (again excepting indies which are a recent phenomenon). This is a fact, and simply saying otherwise doesn't falsify it.

It's because cartoons are seen as inferior to the platonic ideal of 3D actors. Animation is viewed as childish which is seen as inferior to the fully developed human. That is why I think western animation doesn't have self respect because of the metaphysical baggage, Japanese also see immaterial objects as having soul because of animist paganism.

>Japanese also see immaterial objects as having soul because of animist paganism.
I'm never visiting this fucking website again

>>813628
Anything viewed as “childish” is always pathologised. And then people wonder why kids feel pressured to act “adult”

Also, western animation is beloved by adults.
Tom & Jerry, the Simpsons, Damily Guy, South Park, Loony Tunes, etc

>>813580
That only started in the 2010s.
The only exception is superhero media.

>>813488
>"Stuff" in this case just means cartoons.
Nah, Japan has high speed rail and semi-decent city design. It's the bare minimum outside of the west, but in the west that's seen as futuristic.

>>813532
No westoid animation fell hard

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>>813437
I think that Northern European Protestants, and the Angloids especially, have had a long standing cultural obsession with Japan because traditional Japanese art and architecture reflected their own values of "beauty in simplicity" along with their own culture of "stiff upper lip" politeness. In fact, a bunch of Western minimalist artstyles were directly inspired by things like Japanese woodblock printing.

I think "Thing, Japan" is ultimately just the latest expression of this. It ultimately stems from a feeling that the Japanese way of doing things is how *we* would be doing things if we were supposedly doing them the *right* way (even if the reality is that we're not really all that different.)

>>813489
drawn animation is just a medium like books or live action, why drawn animation became associated with children stories more often than not I don't know.

>>813580
Prove it. I don't even stictly disagree, but this is a lot of confidence for a statement made with zero evidence or backing.


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