Stop having children. There are more than enough people on the planet as it is, we don't need any more. We're all full up, thank you. Stop. Having. Kids. Reasons to stop having kids:
- They consume too many resources over the course of their life; your kid drains resources from the rest of the world. Is that what you want?
- Human beings contribute to ecological ruin through overfishing, deforestation, and other such activity, and that includes human overpopulation
- Your kid probably won't amount to much anyway, and if the technocrats succeed in making AI that displaces the entire workforce, then your kid will live in squalor as a result of a lack of economic opportunity, and that's the last thing you want, right?
- The Halocene Extinction is ongoing and we're all going to die, DON'T YOU GET IT, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE, LARGE SWATHES OF THE PLANET WILL BECOME INHOSPITABLE AND WE'LL BE PACKED LIKE SARDINES INTO THE LANDMASSES THAT ARE LEFT. Is that what you want, for your kid to live in jobless purposeless squalor in a slum with third-worlders from the global south, who they have to fight against tooth and nail in order to secure for themselves what little resources that remain?
- Kids are a pain in the ass anyway, and you won't be able to write that book, or develop that game, or do whatever it is that you wanted to do if you have to drop everything to tend to your child (and you're a piece of shit if you delegate the child rearing to someone else like your in-laws)
- Basically, there are no upsides to having a child, save for the boost to your ego that you might gain for having successfully achieved the biological imperative (not that impressive, I know crackheads who managed to pop out some kids)
There are many more reasons, I'm sure, but that's more than enough for you to chew on. STOP. HAVING. CHILDREN. STOP IT. Don't do it. You help no one, least of all the child you bring into this boiling piss pot of a planet.
I've never seen an antinatalist actually explain how their policies should be implemented, especially if they're queasy about having a very authoritarian state like Socialist China at the height of one child policy or Third Reich and its campaigns of sterilization of Jews, Romani, Slavs et cetera.
Do you covertly spike the water supply?
Do you jack up the costs of having kids?
Do you take away all the tax breaks for the parents and only give them to the childfrees, incels, the sterilized people?
Do you initiate a propaganda campaign and morelize and wag your finger at the normies until they stop marrying and breeding?
>>815860I'm not a policymaker, you understand. Maybe my prescriptions would be disastrous, you know. That being said, I guess what one could do is establish state regulated child rearing, i.e. people would only be allowed to have X number of children, as we'd want to regulate the number of newborns in circulation at any given time. Thus, if a couple wanted to procreate, they'd have to apply for a license to do so, which would put them though psychiatric evaluation that determines whether or not they're psychologically fit to be parents, as well as physical fitness, educational, and financial requirements. And of course, there'd have to be punishments for unauthorized procreation, so as to deter citizens from doing so.
It's no more authoritarian than the hoops that people have to go through to maintain their driver's license, and it'd make great strides toward reducing human activity that sucks the planet dry of resources to sustain a fresh crop of newborns that contribute to overpopulation/overconsumption. Of course, this is only a partial solution; we as a species would still have to radically change our lifestyles so as to preserve the fucking planet.
>>815862>>815881 >>815537Your brain is fried by MaltHHuSSianism
>>815886Fake. If the neonazis had killed off the third world, they wouldn't exist themselves.
kill yourself NOW
>>815885>license for parentingAre you German or British?
>>816155Why those two specifically?
>>816287Germans are stereotyped for doing everything by the book, the British for needing a "loicense" for everything.
>>816296the uk doesn't even have any unusual licenses except maybe a tv license - in a lot of other countries they just take the money for state media out of your taxes directly anyway
no actually we dont have enough because there is no pensions. too many people talk is stupid because back in my day i worked hard and buyed houses so today i am honorable landlord and king of my life. you have to work harder and see what you can do. maybe dont buy starbucks and buy storebrand or something. you all deliveroo your breakfast, lunch and dinner and never actualy marry and then you get poor and thats sad.
>>815885haha license to create life haha. what next? euthanaisa and maid for pains? life is tough and you must accept it just cause you have boo boo now you want to stop it? please sir
>>815820I think two more women are pregnant at my workplace now I can't tell too well but they look like it. I bet their will be two or three this school year.
>>815820>>816340Just tell them that their babies have a chance of becoming Drumpf 2.0 and they'll get an abortion.
>>816927I think they're too far along at this point anyways.
>>815537imagine making this thread and attaching a video of a character that makes me wanna BREED BREED BREED
>>815860Just do this. Round up all the breeder bitches and send them to makeshift abortion clinics, shoot every breeder moid in the dick, throw all the kids into the GULAGs. Also strip the cisheteroids of all their tax breaks and shit.
Or sterilize everyone who has or wants mini-mes.
>>817243It's reverse psychology I think.
>>817243I don't think gay sex can produce offspring.
>Stop having children. There are more than enough people on the planet as it is, we don't need any more. We're all full up, thank you. Stop. Having. Kids.
>There are many more reasons, I'm sure, but that's more than enough for you to chew on. STOP. HAVING. CHILDREN. STOP IT. Don't do it. You help no one, least of all the child you bring into this boiling piss pot of a planet.
>I don't hate children, though I am something of a misanthrope. You are correct, adults waste a lot of resources and are a bigger pain in the ass when you get right down to it. That doesn't exempt children from being little resource sponges, though.
>No, because I am here to compete with your little cumsprouts for resources. That's right, lady. I'm going to take as many cheeseburgers as I can get away with, and your kid ain't getting none. Two for me, none for you.
>>818884reddit is much more saccharine, listless, and unwilling to be any sort of offensive. at best, you can call it millennial cringe, and maybe that was equivalent to reddit a decade ago but not anymore. anyway don't act like shartyfags are any better, you're the type to suck on a log of shit and act like it's activating your entire palette with only the most succulent of flavors.
>>818890You don't like seeing 'jaks or you specifically don't like that quoted OP with a soyjak?
>>819069sharty memes suck, yes.
>>818890The OP could've been posted on r/collapse or a dozen environmental, philosophy, antinatalist subs.
>>819169Yeah but could he have done it with pornography like he did here?
>>819171I don't care, I just think it's funny the people who hate reddit tend to have very reddit opinions, unless they're Christian fundies maybe.
>>819195please identify the reddit opinions that were disseminated here. please explain how they differ from non-reddit opinions. please explain why you have any reason to believe that any opinion expressed here is genuine. please explain how, even if they are genuine, having such opinions, that may also be held by users of reddit, somehow disqualifies someone from hating reddit. the floor is yours.
>>815537Too many rightoids making babies and too few leftoids making babies.
>>819199Antinatalism is the one of the most reddit opinions, next to atheism. Non-redditors are natalist, see beauty in life, continuing the human species, even if there's struggle and hardship. It's true, the OP could be trolling, but it's an elaborate one if so. It's possible for someone with reddit opinions to hate reddit, sure, like maybe they don't like the ui or something, but they would fit right in with their views and get lots of updoots.
>>819236>Antinatalism is the one of the most reddit opinions, next to atheism. >Non-redditors are natalist, see beauty in life, continuing the human species, even if there's struggle and hardshipsorry to say but you're retarded. the rest of what you said is fine, I can see your point. except for the whole
<I only hate reddit because of the user interface!!!is just you being retarded again.
>>819236Most have kids to be like everyone else. It sort of confers normiehood on someone. Their are actually a lot of benefits one gains from being a parent with the big drawback that your life is not your own anymore. Not having kids can actually be seen as a disadvantage because it sort of disconnects you from the wider community even though their are probably more people now who don't have children compared to 50 years ago. Although what's happening more is most adults having kids but settling for about 2 kids or so.
>>819305Maybe. But you used an example from the childfree sub reddit instead of the antinatalism sub reddit. People who call themselves childfree are often more likely to be alright with people having children, as long as you can take care of them, yet they often are less tolerant of children themselves. While people who describe themselves as antinatalist are usually more against anyone giving birth but are often somewhat more tolerant of children. That's just my impression from reading both subreddits. Also it seems to me that predominantly women congregate in both subreddits although I think they predominate more in the childfree subreddit. Personally I don't think men are as invested in that that type of thinking because women are most likely to become primary caregivers anyways so they are more likely to worry about that. Men can just deposit their seed and move on or kick back and let the woman worry about running a household. Plus the childfree sub reddit often turns into a place to complain about dating prospects since most people don't seem to subscribe to the idea. Anti natalists probably don't date as much.
telling people what to do with their bodies is some great leftist politics
go back to reddit
>>819305why did you even post this as an example of antinatalists being evil? shushing someone at a movies is literally the most normal thing ever. TADC isn't for 6-7 year olds anyway, it's a 12A/!"+ etc
>>819324apparently in the UK it's a 12A but in the USA it's only a PG, in fairness, so maybe my shithole gave it a higher rating for having harmful
trans themes
>>819305- Climate change is real. If you genuinely deny this, you're retarded and you should kill yourself.
- The increasing human population contributes to said climate change, largely as a result of overconsumption. If you genuinely deny this, you're a retard and you should kill yourself.
- Therefore, if people opt to collectively reduce the global birthrate, this can have an impact on overconsumption, which will ultimately help preserve the environment.
It's just that simple. I don't give a shit if Reddit agrees with me or not, but it's not really a matter of opinion in the first place. I am not an anti-natalist, I don't care if people have children, but I do care about the environment. Meanwhile, the right wing are a bunch of culture-war-brained dipshits who think that having 15 children is some rebellious 'fuck you' to the status quo. They're dumb, and they're not thinking about it reasonably, they're just thinking to themselves
>hurr durr dem dirty libs dun wan yew ta hab cheeldrin?! fuck dat y'all should have 20 cheeldrin jus ta fuk wit em!!!And if they're not thinking that then they're adherents of 'The 14 Words' aka they're perpetual victims and think they have to procreate to outpace the procreation of brown people, lest they be eradicated, which is fucking stupid.
>b-but there are people who just hate children because they're an inconvenience!!! And what? Who cares, that's largely inconsequential, and other people's kids do have the potential to be an inconvenience. As for your image, yeah it's cringe, because this presumably 25+ year old person cares so deeply about a cartoon that is arguably intended for children (I'm not going to argue with Disney adults over the themes of their favorite cartoon; think whatever you want, but I doubt it's really that deep), that they just had to have a little melty over a child being a child in a movie theater. However, what you didn't comment on is that this child is so poorly behaved that they can't shut their mouths long enough to appreciate a feature length film, and that is a testament to the poor upbringing they're probably currently receiving, which is something the person who wrote that post laments having to endure.
<Raise your goddamn kids. It's your problem, and I shouldn't have to deal with itis ultimately the message that the person who wrote this post is conveying, and it's a sympathetic one.
What else is there to say?
>>819198Wait…reddit is BASED???
>>819362>And what? Who cares, that's largely inconsequential, and other people's kids do have the potential to be an inconvenience. So do dogs and partnered adults and disabled and elderly. Yet it’s considered wrong to discriminate against disabled and elderly and romantic partners in the same way we do to children.
Most anti-natalism concerns are rooted in seeing children as leeches. They don’t take into account adult consumption of resources for non-essential purposes.
They even promote shameless adult self-indulgence
>>819316>Personally I don't think men are as invested in that that type of thinking because women are most likely to become primary caregivers anyways so they are more likely to worry about that. Men can just deposit their seed and move on or kick back and let the woman worry about running a householdYou couldn’t be more wrong. Men are more into antinatalism than women. Women are often the ones wanting to have a baby to “seal the deal” in relationships. I swear this place has shallow distorted view of gender just like the rightoids they complain about.
>>815537>>819362>>816927>>818086It’s amazing that you will complain about “muh eugenics” whenever someone suggests that people with hereditary disabilities shouldn’t be allowed to breed.
But, you have no problem with wanting to kill unborn kids for “moral” convenience.
Also
>shoot every breeder moid in the dickYet, there’s no proposal for violence on breeder foids?
>>818890Reddit doesn’t need to be excessively edgy like imageboards are. Tbh I prefer it being “saccharine/inoffensive”.
>>819463>You couldn’t be more wrong. Men are more into antinatalism than women. Women are often the ones wanting to have a baby to “seal the deal” in relationships. I swear this place has shallow distorted view of gender just like the rightoids they complain about.Maybe it's just what I've seen on Reddit but it does seem like more women use the childfree and antinatalist subreddits. Often one of their main complaints is that men often trap women in pregnancies and that seems to be a common sentiment, at least among the female part. Not that they don't blame the female for her part but I feel they tend to put the blame more on the man. Also in the comment your replying to I did try to differentiate between the childfree and antinatalist communities as while there's crossover their is some differences. Or at least that's how they try to portray themselves. I did say that women predominate more in the childfree subreddit. I think antinatalism might be more equal or possibly male dominant, at least on Reddit. Also childfree is more of a dating preference anyways.
>>819463- it's considered wrong to discriminate against people in general.
- there are too many people is about as simple as I get it for you. we can't kill people who are already alive, the only way to address overpopulation is by reducing the birthrate. I know that makes you nazi larpers big mad because some of your rhetoric revolves around increasing the white birthrate, but the environment is more important than preserving your genetics, and also brown people should be having less kids, too.
>>819470- eugenics is pseudoscience hogwash with no basis in reality, and I would not be against the cessation of certain genetic profiles being proliferated via pregnancy if it is scientifically certain that those genetics will result in defects.
- you can't kill a fetus, it's a fetus, and morality doesn't really factor into it unless you're some fundamentalist christian type who already sees the fetus as a person.
>>819623why should I care that some people on reddit might have enough sense to understand that climate change is a result of human activity, and that only humans can make the choice to reduce that activity? good, I'm glad people on reddit understand that. why don't you?
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