How does one stop this?
Do something or stop thinking that you need to do something and that it matters.
Treating adhd.
>>816310Trvke. Self medicate with whatever you can get your hands on if you can't afford legal amphetamines.
start writing your ideas ig?
>>816331You see me all the time writing them down on this board.
>>816310could very well be this yeah.
But overall, just pick one thing and do it. Even if it's small steps to start off.
>>816305I'm in my mid 30s and this was literally me for over a decade with undiagnosed, unmedicated, untreated ADHD. What finally made me settle was running out of options. I had a kid, got a job, and suddenly I no longer had a choice. A lot of my avenues for life were shut down to the point that they were no longer even worth fantasizing about. Now that is not the path you should necessarily follow. But I point this out because I wanted to do all those things and in fact I did all those things badly because I never forced myself to specialize. I was a jack of all trades and not particularly good at anything. The job and the family really narrowed down my prospects so I'm forced to focus on just a few things. I choose exercise and diet. I gave up on writing novels after writing about 3 unfinished novels, one of which clocked in at over 60,000 words. I shared it with my friends and they never finished reading it because they were too busy or they secretly did and thought it sucked. Either way it wasn't encouraging. Then AI slop showed up and I realized it's worthless to write anything because even if you spend countless hours in a chair developing bad back, poor eyesight, and tailbone cysts, just to finish your magnum opus, other people will be able to pump out stuff of equal or higher quality with way less effort, and then your stuff will get accused of being AI anyway because most people aren't able to tell the difference even though they're super confident that they can. Basically if someone doesn't like your writing, they'll call it AI slop even if it isn't, and if they like it, they'll assume it's real even if it's AI slop. I have given up on art and have chosen to focus on family, job, and health. Sounds conservative but I still have my Communist political views, not that I have much time to act on them.
>>816332yeah don't do that, make design docs and shit.
>>816305Other than drugs,. Structure and stability, a job will do that
Get a job
>>816329Does anyone know good ways to self-medicate for procrastination? I don't think I have ADHD but some drugs would be cool
>>816355Nicotine, ideally not cigarettes. But vaping or other forms don't have much downsides other than the cost and potential addiction. Nicotine is dopaminergic just like amphetamines so it's a true stimulant unlike coffee which only removes drowsiness which gives the illusion of stimulation.
>>816355Idk about alternative medication, but what works for ADHD is removing the distractions, or removing yourself from distractions. I cant do anything productive at home, but can spend hours working at the library because there is nothing else to do.
So get a library card.
>>816358Also you can train your focus, consider it like a muscle, anything that requires your active attention will do, so something as simple as video games can do so and the best thing is that it is transferable but not everything will be as pleasurable, but your stamina will persist regardless of the activity.
>>816358I used to be very productive at the library, but recently I "discovered" I could scrabble on papers, with is something I do very frequently, words, ideas… And I now get distracted with that, it's not even drawing
>>816357>not cigarettesYou're a square anon, though for productivity I recommend cigars. Stronger than cigarettes and stay lit longer.
>>816335too long for OP to focus
>>816307>>816310>>816329>just do methFuck that shit, don't listen to these assholes op. That shit is terrible for you, huge chunks of my childhood on em and I always felt so amazing when I stopped taking the shit. There's tons of other methods that don't involve getting hooked on uppers. Look into your diet, protein in the morning for example is a necessity. Exercise can help calm your mind. And honestly, pick up multiple hobbies. At least cheap ones and maybe one costly one if you can afford it. I didn't figure out that music was my thing until I learned that I couldn't program, couldn't sculpt and preferred sound over drawing.
It's a pain in the ass journey, but adhd meds are just straight up bad for you.
>>816418>pick up multiple hobbieshow? i procrastinate my hobbies too, i once procrastinated starting an anime i wanted to see for weeks
>>816423Productive hobbies, not consumption ones
Do you have any interests beside imageboards and gooning? If you do, think to yourself
>gee I sure want to [insert thing] because buying it or making someone else do it is pointless
Blogpost, but bear with me. I want mechanical vape, but vapes on the market are not-like-i-want-them. So I am learning how to CAD to make a vape, learning how mill and lathe work (not because I am planning on using them, but to orient myself on what is possible), what threads, tolerances, etc.
Basicially, to engage with a hobby you have to do concrete things. If you dont get it, read "On practice" by Mao again. You can only understand theory from concrete practice. You dont say
>I will learn to draw
Say
>I sure do would like for tomoko to get skullfucked in very specific way how do I do that
Forgot to add but autistic hyperfocus is something that you might have, for example while watching animays. You just have to channel it into different venues. If combined with ADHD, then you get extra fast context switching which will be extra helpful once you start yak shaving the task.
On learning stages yak shaving is good actually, it only becomes a obstacle once you get good at something. But by then autistic hyperfocus makes you not yak shave as much.
>>816435I also procrastonate stretching/exercise/learning about things/programming most of the days, and if i do it its the only thing i do all day/blender/etc…
>>816305Just accept that you will never achieve anything at life and people will just make fun of you if you try and you can go back to looking at your phone without the intrusive thoughts.
>>816438>only thing I do all dayThat's not a problem, you don't need to do a big leap every day, you can be content of doing something in the first place (and I know it's hard, but you SHOULD be happy about it, else you're gonna kill your motivation again)
I only have 4 hours of mental energy a day lol
Its srsly intensity and rest
the only way to do this would be to clone myself and self deliberate. even if we had communism and were 100% food self sufficient i would never have time for all of this(and i want to do all of it)
>>816355caffeine sort of works. just like adhd meds it can make u sleepy. altho unlike meds you can grow resistant to it and require higher and higher doses. adhd meds u can grow resistant to as well but not as fast as caffeine
>>816461I'd make her ass do things if you catch my drift.
>>816533Not listening to an Eagles fan on anything
>>816398You have a little focus, just like you have a little strength before you start working out and you get more.
I don't have advice for the ADHD stuff but I do have advice for the 'multiple things you want to do' thing:
>short version:
99% of the stuff you want is just your brain trying to make you feel bad for not being productive. To find out what you actually want to do, find out what things you will need to do that thing, and if you think you are going to enjoy those things. ("It's about the journey, not the destination.")
>>816583>long version: 99% of the things you 'want' to do are just things you think you want to do. The human brain is never gonna be content so it's gonna spam you 24/7 with things you could be doing. Most of the stuff you 'want' to do, is actually just stuff your brain wants you to do because a week ago it saw someone doing something cool and was like, 'woaw, we should be doing that too!!!"
>how am i supposed to know what I actually want to doJudge activities based on the journey required, not the destination.
For example:
>I should make 3D models…In this case a 3D model would the destination, and the 34 hours spent 3D modelling would be the journey. Is it worth it? Only if you enjoy 3D modelling. Apply this to any and all desires you get. Eventually you'll discover something you enjoy doing.
>>816329I have never seen worse advice on this site. Untreated ADHD is better option than abusing street drugs.
Dopamine detox. No screens for a month.
If you're a guy stop fapping.
Meme on me all you want but if you've never given it an honest try the results will surprise you
>>816335>Don't follow your dreams because of le other people will use le AI to do it betterIt can't and it won't.
>>816628not what the post said or implied. but thanks for reminding me that people won't read what you write.
Get good food, get good sleep, start forcing yourself to be disciplined. Basics is force yourself to breathe deeply for a minute strength until you feel your vision zone out and your skin tingling.
Tell yourself no.
Tell yourself i must finish this.
Get into habit, it will be easier.
Don't start without finishing.
Finish unfinished work.
Things will get easier from there.
>t. been in your shoes.
>>816583>>816585ok so how do I convince myself that I really just enjoy the romantic, picturesque idea of having hot and steamy sex with a variety of people, and would actually NOT enjoy the 'journey' of trying to attain it? because sexual drive is a strong motivator that won't go away, you know. you can brush off the desire to maybe pick up a new instrument, but sex will always be there.
it's like you're stuck in a prison cell with good acoustics and you can't help but hear your stomach churn and gurgle as the lack of quality food repeatedly has you going to bed hungry, and said auditory irritations constantly remind you of that fact. only, the cell is your own head, and the reminders come in the form of sexual thoughts that you yourself concoct, as well as glances at any given tasty thigh meat on display at any given time.
>>816753>ok so how do I convince myself that I really just enjoy the romantic, picturesque idea of having hot and steamy sex with a variety of people, and would actually NOT enjoy the 'journey' of trying to attain it?Just remember that sex partners are just people and if you don't really connect with them on a deeper level people are often just tedious. Also sex is actually pretty boring when you do it a lot especially if there's no emotional connection. And most conventionally attractive people who put effort into being attractive are shallow and uninteresting. Sex with them is often more of a performance than an authentic intimate experience. So after awhile you just feel more alienated.
t. >40 bodycount
>>816627> No screens for a month.what if your job requires it
>o-office worker!!1!!believe it or not a lot of outdoors people need to use tablets and phones for their jobs now; usually documenting some task got done, or surveying some real life data
>>816753If I understand your problem correctly, you want to convince yourself that you don't like sex or the process of attaining it, just the romantisized version of it in your head?
Try techniques that reduce horniness. I here exercise and cold showers are good. I'm sure if you google stuff about how monks repress sexual urges, you could find more.
If you don't mind me asking, why do you want to do this? Why do you wanna repress your sexual desires?
>>816753Ludovico technique + Consuming nothing but black pilled incel doomerism
>>816335thanks for strengthening my conviction to not have kids lmao i hope i never become like this especially not at 35 which isn't even that old
>>816557what's wrong with being an eagles fan, he was marx's best friend
>>816628AI won't do it objectively "better", just people are retards and half of them will like aislop more
>>816692>I am single mindedly dedicated to misrepresenting what a post that took less than 2 minutes to read said. whatever makes you happy i guess
>>816692- had a kid
- had too many hobbies
- had to choose how to spend time
- had to do few things well instead of many things badly
- wrote lots of stuff
- TEST AUDIENCES wouldn't give feedback
- then AI showed up and noticed how confident PEOPLE are that they can diagnose what is and isn't slop despite being very bad at it
- PEOPLE will accuse writing of being slop when it isn't
- PEOPLE will treat slop like it was handwritten when it wasn't
if you notice, the problem was the PEOPLE not the AI
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