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You'll be given job training and meaningful employment end the resulting socialization will cure your neetdom

Sageru

specifically marxist analysis i don't care for, but here's my personal analysis: they reflect the sheer state of economic development we've reached. for all the whining and complaining about the economic tribulations of today, or all the obvious incentive to go "ohh, they're a failure of capitalism, they show how bad things have gotten" they in-fact show how good things have gotten. we didn't have as many NEETs in the past because it was not economically viable to support them, and parents and family and the state would all refuse to do so. now we're rich enough that we can allow people to subsist while actively doing nothing and not even pretending that they're ever going to do something. this reflects material development rather than regression, even if it creates a new challenge. (how to get these people to work etc when it is in fact perfectly possible and viable for them not to.)

it was not, in fact, a better world where such people would be press-ganged by starvation, their parents, and the state into becoming coal miners. it was a worse one. this is dispositionally hard to accept for the neurotic pessimists of the world who want their communism to come in the form of collapse rather than transcendence, but it's true. the world is going better than you think. this will be doubly hard to accept if you are a depressed NEET, but it's true.

>>818197
This is only true for the first world. There are countries where being a neet is unviable.

>>818197
We used to also have places for these people, church institutions, the university, and so on. The primacy of capitalism and the destruction of communal life has kind of removed all these spaces that society has developed for neurotypical men (large percentage of neets i would assume).

>>818198
Yet there are third world neets. Although I imagine they either live in the less screwed up parts of the third world, come from relatively well off families or from smaller families. Or maybe they're dependent on transfer of money from relatives working in more developed countries.

>>818199
non-neurotypical*

>>818195
A lot of people don't like alienated wage-labor and will do as much as they can to avoid if it at all possible.

in the imperial core, the NEET is a JDPON freedom fighter destroying imperialism by being a leech on imperialist society but refusing to contribute to it.

in the periphery, the NEET is a leech on the anti-imperialist movement and the movement to build the productive forces

long live the NEETs of NATO

down with the NEETs of the third world

>>818218
WHy do I have a feeling that video is staged for chinese social media?

>>818218
Always knew I'm committing revolutionary praxis by being a welfare leech

t. imperial core neet

There are different categorizations of NEETs.
>The rich-kid
This person's life is financed by his family, it's that simple. He could work, but knows that he doesn't have to. This person, whose family has money, is allowed to live like any other typical cosmopolitan because he can still be a consumer, given his wealth. These people are often educated but listless or directionless, who have yet to find their 'calling' in life, or so they say.
>The downtrodden
This person has no economic opportunity because of the specific circumstances he finds himself in, and his life is financed by his family. This person doesn't get a premium lifestyle and subsists on whatever is available at the moment, ramen noodles and stale bread. This person may or may not spend a great deal of time indoors, consuming media and rotting away, or they may contribute to their household in non-fiscal ways, such as by doing the various household labor tasks that the working parties would otherwise be left to do without the NEET's presence.
>The memelord
This person is a variant of one of the two above designations; Either he's a rich-kid whose family furnishes his lifestyle, or he's a downtrodden who lives in his mother's basement. Regardless, he is motivated by consuming and identifying with internet culture to embrace NEETdom. He is the poster boy for the most self-centered parasitic treaterlite with which the term NEET is typically associated, and whose image is conjured by that association. He is lazy and irrational, a modern day disciple of Diogenes who views contribution to society as beneath him.
>The neurodivergent
This person may either be a rich-kid or downtrodden, but since he requires special care, he is simply unable to interface with society in a manner similar to his neurotypical comrades.
>The scam artist
This is either a rich-kid bourgeoisie who considers his operations to be spiritually or culturally meaningful, or a downtrodden lumpenprole who desperately wants to 'escape the rat race' through producing goods and services, to be sold to others and furnish his lifestyle. In today's perpetually online culture, these are content creators of all stripes. Hasan Piker is an example of a rich-kid bourgeoisie; Steven "Destiny" Bonnell II is an example of a downtrodden lumpenprole who successfully found his niche and garnered enough to live a petit-bourgeoisie lifestyle. These people often delude themselves into thinking that they're contributing to society via their contributions; after all, the produce meaningful commentary on social, cultural, and political issues, or provide entertainment for those working class proles who support them. This framing, in my view, is dishonest, because these people often do not have to deal with the same issues that working class people deal with; long working hours or a less-than-idea working schedule, unpalatable workplace culture, abusive coworkers or superiors, etc. as they, if anything, can be said to be self employed and thus control these aspects for themselves. You might say that these people answer to the platform upon which they distribute their content, but only as any other end user.

Ultimately, I sympathize the most with the downtrodden and the neurodivergent types, while the rest are varying levels of petit-bourgeoisie or lumpenprole. My personal opinion is that the people who want to work but who can't find meaningful employment often require assistance to which they do not have access, and any socialist or communist society would remedy their woes by offering that assistance in various ways. The lumpenprole/petit-bourgeoisie is he who wishes not to work, and such lifestyles should be discouraged.

>>818218
If you're a neet failson leeching of your third world comprador parents are you based or cringe?

NEETs are what you get when the counterculture is crushed by the police state and kept isolated and distracted and pacified with videogames and internet and shit. in a better society they would be punks or hippies or beatniks or whatever, working easy part-time jobs or freelance gigs to earn the minimum amount of money to support themselves and spending the rest of their time doing creative or subversive things. but in authoritarian capitalist societies like the us or japan or china they are confined indoors to keep them out of society and then blamed for burdening society by not participating in it, even though they are not being allowed to participate in it because their way of participating in society is not acceptable, the only acceptable form of participation is total submission to the status quo with full-time career work and debt slavery and all surplus income spent on mindless consumption.

>>818225
that is decidedly based; as always, context is everything

>>818220
damn they did a good job on the makeup, hair, and nails for the NEET if it was staged.

NEETs are modern day slave owners and their parents are the slaves. Not only do they not work but they don't have to stoop so low as to engage in trade to satisfy their needs (unlike the bourgeoisie). Neetie doesn't have to buy food. When he screams "MOM BRING ME TENDIES" the wageslaving parent-cattle brings him the food. Yes, the parents didn't produce the food themselves, they had to engage in wage labor to buy it, but slave owners making their slaves do wage work for someone else wasn't unusual in ancient Greece. If ancient slaveholders and feudal aristocrats were alive today, they would feel more kinship with NEETs than with billionaires

i used to be NEET, not by choice but from circumstance. my parents dumped me in public housing. i never wanted to integrate into the broader society because i hate humans. people are disgusting animals. i grew up in the woods and i love animals and nature and if i could i would live like an old hunter in the wilderness. i had a few odd cash jobs and sold my ass for a few years because i was naturally pretty and could get places without money just by being cute. in my youth i was in between psych hospitals and different youth reformatory institutions. i spent some time in prison in my adult years. now im in my late 20s and i want a real life so i have to sell my labor too. so im working in a kitchen for minimum wage until i can be free from labor and the stupidity of poor people. my coworkers are retarded animals who have never seen outside of their enclosure. i lied profusely on my resume just to get this job and i had to practice & learn how to bluff to the managers face. i read some marx and lenin and i like juche and songun but i fucking hate communists and anyone who tries to organize unions because i would love to profit off their demise. i will do whatever it takes to get ahead. fuck you. i hate poverty and i hate poor people. you can fucking die and i will live, whatever it takes. i will fucking brainwash the people around me to get what i want and i have studied how. i had to move to the city to make any money because if i stayed in my village i would die slowly, all the people i know growing up got addicted to meth or opiates and died. so i fucking hate everyone around me. circus animals, thats what city people are. you dance for a rich man and virtue signal about the working class. no backbone. communism is a fucking joke, none of the people around you care about making a better future for the common people. they will just use it as a rhetorical device to get ahead. i remember being brought into a casino suite by a "marxist" who did not give a fuck about poor or working people like me whatsoever, just as a device to get prostitutes and free laborers for personal use. that is what "communism" is all about. fuck off and die. fuck the proletariat. you are disposable tools. if you are not making your own money and taking steps to free yourself financially then you are dependent on someone else. do whatever you have to, just survive and get ahead of the scum who are oppressing you.

>>818291
edgiest post of the thread award.

Oh joy, yet another concern troll bating from a 4cuck/pol/ troll.

This website is completely finished, just full of the same spooked retards as 4cuck. Both are spooked in different ways but are ultimately have been completely spooked.

>>818292
He did post a very pretty pic though.

>>818284
Cope and seethe landscum, Mamdani will bring us tendies

>>818291
Least reactionary twink.

>>818291
Sounds like a sad trvth. If this post proves anything, is that bottom up revolution is not possible and instead you need to hope for bonapartism, the elites scewing up and other elite theory concepts. I have upgraded my marxist theory with austrian economics, cybernetic planning and elite theory.