>>819363>God does careIf God cares, why would he create the problem to begin with?
He doesn't care. He has predestined Hell for unbelievers.
>atheist who did nothing wrongSo is it grace through faith, or is it good works which saves people?
You aren't making sense. If good works save us, we don't need faith.
If faith saves us, good works don't count for anything.
>different degrees of punishment varying based on how much people knew of the truthSo its not just the burning lake of fire, but extra punishments too? What is the crime again? Eternal torment for not believing in an a thing without evidence? Demand proof? But tell me, do you think its fair to punish people for all eternity for anything? I don't. God does.
>What else is the alternative you propose?I take Paul's account that the law is written on our hearts.
Moral progress doesn't exist. You apparently think the law changes.
>By the standards of 21st century morality, the Roman Empire is a barbaric imperialist slave-owning empire that should be destroyedWe are more immoral today than ever were in the past. There are no relative historical standards, only knowledge and ignorance.
>That is your argument, which you have yet to proveYou can prove it yourself - is it ever FAIR to apply infinite punishment for finite crimes?
>You attack God for not punishing evil instantaneously, and then you also accuse him of being evilGod allows all rape and murder to happen like a bystander, and actively creates it himself. God is the origin of all evil and suffering - or is he not all-powerful?
>it is relative to the time periodSo morality is determined by man's ignorance and not eternal justice?
Tell me then, what EXACTLY makes things GOOD or EVIL? Opinion?
>a better understanding of morality. If morality is understood, then it must also be misunderstood, no?
If it can be misunderstood, then morality does not change.
>MarxistI'm not a Marxist.
>God does the same [as Marx]Why are you once more debasing God to men? Blasphemy.
>Jesus never sinned despite living amongst sinnersJesus got angry, so he did sin, the same way God sinned.
>You are blaming God for something He didn't even doBut he did; God creates rape, doesn't he? He is all-powerful, no?
Again, if you could stop a rape but don't, you are responsible for it.
>if he struck down the rapist before he could even walk, you would accuse God of being a murdererWhen God smites children with cancer, is he stopping future rapists?
>He is not holding a gun to your head every day demanding you follow Jesus.If you don't believe that an ancient Jewish carpenter is the creator of the universe, are you punished for all eternity? Isn't this a threat?
>that is freedomTell us anon, what happens after we live a life of disbelief?
>hating GodWhy would I respect a being which is the cause of all suffering?
>As for God being unjust or unfair again you have yet to prove it.Tell me why the man was born blind despite never sinning, again.