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Child killer

>>820066
Yeah I've noticed musicians doing it, musicians in the "middle" of the industry who got destroyed by the internet taking their income away. I like "industrial" music and there's a band called PIG that I saw selling VIP tickets for the current tour this month where you can hang out with the guy for an hour before the show and get some special merch. He's actually a really nice guy (a goofy Englishman) and I met him once, but I think it's just the brutal economics of the industry.

In this genre/scene, virtually all of these musicians are middling at best with the exception of Nine Inch Nails. But that's more like U2 or Metallica or Coldplay. And even then Trent Reznor is still charging $120/ticket (plus fees) and will sell you a $60 hoodie at the enormo-dome because otherwise shit starts to fold up fast. I actually did go see Nine Inch Nails a couple of years ago and it was this gigantic, expensive production with a small army of crew setting up the lights and handling everything. That was one of the only times I've actually paid money to go see a "celebrity" rock star performer. I got my money's worth though.

But unless you're Trent Reznor, what are you gon do. The only time there was really any money from actual labels for this style of music was a very narrow window in the mid-90s when the mainstream briefly flirted with industrial rock because Nine Inch Nails was successful. Also the reason Nine Inch Nails sounds like that is because it took an 18-wheeler full of gear, recording engineers, and a massive studio with rooms designed to record drum sounds. That shit is expensive.

At any rate, the middle got completely hollowed out. You still have the Taylor Swifts who are a mega-huge, but there's a lot fewer middle-of-the-pack artists. You have a lot of people playing around on their computers and uploading their music to Bandcamp. Same with games. Either it's a Rockstar/Ubisoft/EA/Bethesda blockbuster that costs hundreds of millions of dollars (GTA VI apparently is going to cost over a billion dollars to make), and then you have shoestring budget indie games with retro 16-bit graphics from people who are essentially doing it as a hobby. So yeah if you're a musician, you charge $90 for a VIP session and if 12 people buy the VIP tickets and show up before the show in Phoenix, Arizona, you make $1,000.

>>820066
stop spending money in shit that isnt food or basic necessities
stop consuming
save up
stop working

rock stars have always been raping teenage girls, it was only a matter of time before the record labels figured out how to set up a toll booth for that too.

>>820068
It always seemed to me that the geography alone makes being a touring musician difficult in the US. Like, it's huge. It's not like you just gotta jump in the van and drive a few hours to the next city, you have to cross this vast and poorly connected, with regard to transport infrastructure, continent.
>>820070
Rock music has always had a pedophilic current. Jerry Lee Lewis famously went for teenagers and a lot of lyrics in the genre revolve around teenage and young girls.

>>820071
I wouldn't say it's poorly connected because of the highway system. I think the typical experience of touring musicians who'd rent a tour bus is that they'd sleep in the bus as it traveled overnight to the next city, so they'd never actually see anything. It's like a bubble where they go in the bus and then pass out and then wake up in a parking lot at the next venue. But a tour bus is also expensive so a lot of these middling bands are now basically renting a van and driving themselves and sleeping in hotels so it turns into more of a road trip experience.

Start stanning underground artists and then you can talk to them for like a beer after the gig.