Challenge: Name ONE (1) "evil woman" or "female monster" figure from mythology, legend or folklore that has NOT had the "they're actually a symbol of female empowerment" take from a feminist figure.
>>820387Easy mode: Name an "evil woman" or "female monster" figure that has a general consensus of "they're just an evil woman" or "they're just a monster" from the feminist community in spite of a "they're actually a symbol of female empowerment" take from a feminist figure.
>a feminist figure.Ill defined scope. Do you mean like, essays, or is this going to be an excersize in how Twitter incentives SEO slop for keywords?
>>820391Vriska Homestuck? I haven't read homestuck but that's how I see her talked about sometimes.
>>820399>Ill defined scope.I just mean any figure of relative prominence. Basically any person who is important enough to, for instance, have their own encyclopedia entry rather than any twitter rando. In essence, you should consider if it is a significant, respected idea, not take into consideration every single internet schizo take.
>Vriska HomestuckThat's a character from modern fiction. I mean mythology, legend or folklore.
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satan or something, i don't fucking know
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>>820403>Basically any person who is important enough to, for instance, have their own encyclopedia entry rather than any twitter rando. In essence, you should consider if it is a significant, respected idea, not take into consideration every single internet schizo take.Ah aight. I've been on a good reading streak, so I could toss in some feminist literature in there.
>I mean mythology, legend or folklore.Homestuck is modern* mythology, but fair enough.
*I wouldn't exactly call something made in the current century modern, tho. Modern is like, the 1900's. I get what you mean though.
>>820387it's the ghost of 2016 here to visit us yet again!
the witch from hansel and gretel.
the mother from Cinderella.
its easy when you can think of more then greek myth, which usually has complicated morals.
>>820408uygha i legit seen the witch from hansel and gretel as a tragic figure once, but the angle wasn't her being a woman, it was her being jew coded appearantly.
anyway the barrel was hard to scrap for me i could only find the mermaid's witch Ursula, and Lamashtu the mesopotamian entity of destruction.
Do most feminists know who Elizabeth Bathory was? She was more or less central Europe’s Jeffery Epstein.
>>820410i can't tell, but it don't matter she's a living figure that blood contess and OP wants one example from stories and legends, not a real life crazy cleaver ghislaine maxwell bitch.
why don't you strangle your ex-gf/ex-wife/unreciprocated crush and go to prison already? we all know that's what this is really about, just go do it and quit trying to leave cryptic evidence behind thinking you'll get famous and end up in a documentary or something, it's not going to happen.
>>820409That’s actually interesting, ig it makes some sense.
There’s no figure in the popular cannon I’d image that doesn’t have one contrarian trying to make them seem heroic for any number of reasons. Hell, I’ve seen unironic pol pot supporters - and that’s much more serious then any fairy tail. Law of large numbers I suppose
i think i found one, black annis, its like a basic babayaga figure from england, too nich, ugly and deformed, kills and eats children, the works
>>820408I guess there isn't much stuff surrounding fairy tales. Though it's worth noting that there has been an attempt to make witches in general "female empowerment" figures.
>>820414You sound upset. I was legitimately curious because I kept coming across these takes. Recently, it was an apparently serious take that fucking Tiamat from Mesopotamian mythology was a symbol of female empowerment.
Easy:
Charybdis, daughter of Gaia with Poseidon and the less well-known counterpart to the "queer nymph" Scylla.
Eris
>>820419The magic whirlpools ?
>>820421There used to be a tripcode namefag named eris on fourchan /x/. It was a furry plushie fucker who rode a pink electric bike powered by solar panels. He was the rape child protege of some old-school Bay Area elite.
>>820421I'm pretty sure she is.
>>820387>Challenge: Name ONE (1) "evil woman" or "female monster" figure from mythology, legend or folklore that has NOT had the "they're actually a symbol of female empowerment" take from a feminist figure.To be fair, the ones who becomes symbols of empowerment tend to be the ones who are falsely attributed as evil. Medusa is a pretty notorious example.
So with that said, how about a Greek mythological woman more deserving of the villain label: Hera.
>>820410I thought the popular contrarian take was that Bathory was framed by male nobles. Kinda like how witches didn't do anything wrong they just had property that other people wanted or they had access to medical knowledge and status outside the church which triggered them.
>>820428now you're cooking, still it can't be hard to find somone defending her as matron mother of marriages despite being married to Zeus….the only way i can see the godess that lets her husband have his way in anger is maybe if you frame it as a tragedy, taming ungrateful patriarchal men and all.
Cybele. Which is odd because she was a very important deity until the Christian subverstion of Rome. Maybe because he religion wasnt very female centric all things considered.
>>820439This is the shitposting board.
Elizabeth Bathory, who I actually believe got railroaded but since she was an aristocrat I don't really care.
do jezinky and samodivi count?
>>820387uhhhhhhhh kuchisake onna???
>>820590that's very recent
historically speaking female representation was really shitty anon.
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