Under marxism:
>Prostitution will be illegal>Non essential work will be abolished>All porn will be Amateur, feature consenting adults, and will be free. >This anon >>825057 will be gulaged and made to read theory. >>825117in a post work society, money wouldn't exist anyway so it's a moot point
>>825086Even in a moneyless society people could prostitute themselves to climb the social ladder, get fame and favors, access to goods not amendable to wide distribution. Gamergate could still happen in communism!
>>825117making prostitution legal INCREASE human trafficking btw,the pimps just become fat cats and employ hundreds of whores instead of keeping it low,and most countries where it is illegal the cops don't arrest random prostitutes anyway
>>825086Under marxism:
>Prostitution will be illegal<What 0 pussy does to a mf THere’s nothing wrong with railing hookers. I fuck multiple hookers a week and I’m fine
>>825086How to prevent black market for prostitution?
>>825151>making prostitution legal INCREASE human trafficking btw,Source being what? National Association of Evangelicals?
Just got DRAAAainnned Its been months and I was high key loosing my shit. You incels and dorks so against this is sad AF. Cock blocking is objectively anti-communist.
>Prostitution will be illegal
>Non essential work will be abolished
But isn't prostitution essential work?
>>825360>Here we offer you an overview of that submission about the ties between prostitution and human trafficking. According to the United Nations, human trafficking is “the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of people through force, fraud or deception, with the aim of exploiting them for profit.”[1] Most of this exploitation is done through forced labour or sexual enslavement.
>In 2017, the Netherlands received several recommendations from the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), including the importance of controlling “trafficking in migrant women and their exploitation in prostitution and in inhuman and undignified occupations”[2] and, continuing to protect the rights of children, including by preventing trafficking. The Netherlands supported these recommendations, but obviously did not enforce them well enough.
>The prostitution business has become a fertile soil for human traffickers in the Netherlands. It is estimated that the number of human trafficking victims is around 6,250, with approximately 1,300 of those victims being underage Dutch girls[3]. The majority of these victims are used for forced prostitution and sexual exploitation[4].
>One young woman, who had been forced into prostitution shed light on the dark world of legalised trafficking saying that “We are being sold just like something in a shop”[5].A Romanian woman told her story of how she was lied to and sold and forced into prostitution for five years in the Netherlands[6]. At the age of 17, someone she thought of as her boyfriend lured her from Romania to London where she believed she would have a good paying job as a hairstylist[7]. Soon after getting to London she was sold and forced to go work in an Amsterdam brothel and had her passport taken away from her[8]. According to her, “The man who brought me to England and then to Holland used me like a piece of meat . . . When I saw the brothels with all the girls in the windows, I cried. I cried very hard because they looked horrible, and I knew that was coming to me”[9]. She was forced to work 12 hours a day and only received £9 a day for food[10]. After being sexually exploited for five years, she was finally able to escape with the help of a support agency[11]. She explains perfectly the problem of legalised prostitution: “The problem is that once I was in that brothel, everybody just walked passed smiling and waving, or glaring and laughing, including some of the police, because everything was perfectly legal”[12].
<Young women are not the only victims of this system: children are being used too whether it is sex trafficking, begging, or drug trafficking. According to a report, among the pornographic images and films that abuse children, almost half of them come from the Netherlands which is a “safe haven for child sexual abuse.”[15]https://eclj.org/geopolitics/eu/legal-prostitution-and-human-trafficking-in-the-netherlands?lng=en >>825378People bartered in USSR because of this. Blowjob for levis jeans.
>>825446Prostitution is essential for my mental health. I'll keel over if I can't fuck hot women, and my doctor agrees
>>825360I find so much research on prostitution to be of questionable quality because it's conducted by feminist-dominated organizations and law enforcement. Law enforcement just wants more funding and feminist organizations hate men being happy.
>>825448The conflation of adult and child prostitution is so disingenuous, yet common among anti-prostitute advocates. And really anyone with an agenda (like pro-surveillance types). Why do these people think that because an option hypothetically exists, men would partake? Do they think that lowly of men? Despite all of the hysteria, most men aren't actually attracted to children and you're mentally ill for implying such.
The excerpt you posted yourself emphasized that the prevalence of human trafficking within legal brothels in the Netherlands is more the result of indifference on the part of Dutch regulators. The whole scheme involving that Romanian woman would've collapsed if literally one labor worker show up to do a random inspections of the brothel. Sure this is expensive, but it's a literal money making venture. Just tax all brothels more and fine and criminally charge those that are non-compliant. Sure, this would push immoral brothel owners into the black market, but that's the point and is literally just the status quo in most places.
Also, the article brings up her passport being held to invoke the idea of her being held captive like in the Taken movies. It contradicts this later by mentioning the Lover Boy Method, but it deliberately brought up this inaccurate imagery because it's marketable for their cause. Even though it may be illegal to not carry your passport as a foreigner in most countries, it's generally not actively enforced. She could've just walked out of the brothel at any time and sought help from a police officer or her embassy. She didn't leave because she was under emotional abuse, which isn't somehow more possible in markets where prostitution is legal. The idea that these women are in literal window displays yet somehow unable to get help is absurd.
>very hard because they looked horrible, and I knew that was coming to me”This could happen in any other labor sector. Why do we not ban those sectors? Immigrants are inherently exploitable, maybe we should just ban immigration.
Also the source is a right wing Christian legal advocacy group masquerading as a real UN organization.
Why do leftists turn into rightists whenever men being happy is involved?
>>825460>I don't care about indirectly supporting human traffickingKill yourself my man
>>825515Human trafficking exists in all sectors of the economy. Anti prostitution “leftists” literally cannot explain why prostitution should be banned lmao
>>825516they can and do, you just ignore it because cummies over feelings
>>825516Prostitution shouldnt be banned as that does nothing to help women forced into into, but welfare and social system should be set up in such a way nobody has to prostitute themselves.
how did leftist quickly go from sex is work is real work, stupid conservatard moid patriarchal vamily value fucks want to restrict women sexuality and downplay hooker's normal role that should be normalized to sex work is a product of the mysogonistic sexist pedophilic rapist shameless human moid subhumans who want to RAPE women 24/7 instead of dating? always somone else's fault
>>825530you're mixing up liberals and leftists, leftists have always been about abolishment, if you feel more strongly about your right to rape women then its likely you need to shoot the liberal in your head or stop LARPing
>>825530the world would be better without you in it
>>825527We dont believe in god dummy.
>>825530>sex is work is real work, stupid conservatard moid patriarchal vamily value fucks want to restrict women sexuality and downplay hooker's normal role that should be normalizedis not in contradiction with
>sex work is a product of the mysogonistic sexist pedophilic rapist shameless human moid subhumans who want to RAPE women 24/7 instead of dating <Waaaaaa, prostitution is heckin rape. . . because I heckin said so!!!! Stop asking questions you’re a pedophile!!!!!
>>825535Right you believe in "human rights" or "history" or "the future" or some other stand-in (don't make me hunt down the Marx quote about how present society is obligated, for some reason, to hand a healthy environment to future generations, citing ROMAN COMMON LAW LOL)
>>825553Remind me of your genealogy
>>825553>If the women doesn't actually want to fuck you, even if you're paying her, then yes, it's rape.If a woman regrets sex, it's a microrape.
>>825574politely accepting the male urge to give women money
>>825553You're basically making the case a John should just violently submit a woman and violate her if he'll still be seen as a rapist. You don't care about women at all. Being pro sex-worker is definitively more feminist than your shitty ass view point.
>>825582>No, nobody ever said anything close.<Johns are rapistsLol. Thats exactly what you said. Im not having a tantrum Im just putting your annoying and pedantic reactionary posting in its place.
>>825580>She doesn't actually wanna fuck you.Her accepting payment in exchange for the commodity of sex is consent.
>>825553The truke that annihilated siberia
>>825535that part of the comment was what offended you? Lmao
>>825533same to you
>>825542it is for it tries its hardest to paint paying for sex and dinner as the absolute same as someone grabbing you and drugging you to have sex with you, and diminishes any sex worker that actually wants to engage in this business. infantilization or better yet, just picturing sex workers as saints and consumers as moid devils
>>825589it is coersion if she's of a poor background, but the moralists here wants you to believe 101% of all women (and focus on the women because in their mind male postitutes can't be raped, and just aren't worth the drama) in prostitution are like comfort women or those in unchecked turkish, brazilian houses, not some italian or french free spirited woman. feels like the same logic as people trying to tell you in mental gymnastics that putting on a fake wedding ring to make women attracted to you is a form of rape because manipulation as if this is the same as what people think when they think rape.
>>825596>it is for it tries its hardest to paint paying for sex and dinner as the absolute same as someone grabbing you and drugging you to have sex with youI am sure there are people who do that, but most do not and understand there are degrees to coercion and consent.
>>825591Another piece of nonsense from a juvenile moron.
>>825591I love seeing my work appreciated in the wild
>>825553>If the women doesn't actually want to fuck you, even if you're paying her, then yes, it's rape.Truthnuke, betabuxxing is form of rape also.
>>825607>Truthnuke, betabuxxing is form of rape also.Of the dude or the chick? Or rather the person paying or the person receiving payment?
>>825601funnly enough, in australia the punishment for not paying a hooker is 25 years in prison. less than that of murder
>>825606i am no rapist no matter how many times you repeat it to feel like "the victor", and i hope for your sake, you reach a day where the mere muttering of men doesn't grind your gear.
the point of bringing them up, was how they are without a doubt, part of the industry although fewer, but let's be honest no one here thinks of them at all when speaking of rape, they are not in the picture because this isn't about coersion, but about male sexuality in general
>>825609Its pretty obvious from the post I am replaying to. Like why would the one buying sex have their body violated, just dont pay for it if you dont want!
>in australia the punishment for not paying a hooker is 25 years in prison. less than that of murderYou mean sexually assaulting a woman? Yeah, good, it should be.
>>825610The original post I made didn't reference 'male' or 'women' prostitutes, it was implied when I just said 'prostitutes' that I meant women, men and non-binary sex workers, the fact you have to twist this into 'man hater' to feel better about yourself shows your own bias and patriarchal inclination to be a perpetual victim in this exchange.
Shoot the marketplace liberal in your head
>>825612my brother in christ you may not have, but the threat certainly did, luffy poster, other anons. you see it too do you not? the default image for prostitute is afab, a woman. so when people here speak of abolishing prostitution because its rape, the main image in their head are moids coercing weak women with wads of cash.
anyway cool cat
>>825615>the default image for prostitute is afabTrans women are disproportionately sex workers, and take a guess why and how does that square with your "oh its actually not coercive at all".
>>825611>>in australia the punishment for not paying a hooker is 25 years in prison. less than that of murder>You mean sexually assaulting a woman? Yeah, good, it should be.obviously, but it also means they are protected by law, not this image of an underbelly bawdy house where women are assaulted for money and no one bats an eye. they have no rights.
still, if paying for hookers is rape, not paying for them is rape, and prostitution should be banned altogether and replaced with amateur casting…what remains but again, trying to date…well if you have an ugly face from an accident, tough luck pal, enjoy being alone.
>>825620>well if you have an ugly face from an accident, tough luck pal, enjoy being alone.Instead of paying women for sex consider saving up for reconstructive surgery.
>>825597>it is coersion if she's of a poor backgroundCoercion is not the same as non-consensual. Selling labor power in general is structurally coercive because the alternative is destitution. However, it is still a consensual contract, as nobody is forcing you to get a job or work a specific type of job. After all, people still make their own history even if their actions are mediated by the material conditions they are subjected to.
Paying a whore who is voluntarily offering her body for sex is thus entirely consensual, even if the circumstances of her labor-power is coercive. If you don't define consent into something observable—a contract, marriage, words, writing, or relationship dynamics—then it becomes impossible to determine whether consent has been given. People will claim they were "raped" on a whim, which is what is increasingly happening in our feminist idpol shithole world.
>>825628>words words wordsstill took advantage of someone
Why does prostitution make virgin leftist males seethe so much?
>>825648>Why does prostitution make virgin leftist males seethe so much?They're oversocialized.
>>825651But they seethe even if no such thing is involved.
>>825602aw is the trafficker upset?
>>825656Yes now im going to have to beat my merchandise.
I'll tell them its your fault.
>>825657may she break free from enslavement
>>825664never ask a strinerite to apply the same logic to age of consent
>>825686if you wanna play the moral game why stop at the age of consent, ask him to step on cats or eat people at that point, or sacrifice a goat to god (himself)
>>825686Thankfully I live in a country where prostitution is legal and the age of consent is at a very sensible 15 years old.
>>825690Where is that? Epstein's Island or something?
>>825694This line goes hard if we were on Reddit
>>825690the jokes write themselves really
>>825695only stinky redditors hate fucking children! reddit reddit redit ereddit redit reddt ireddi reddit
>>825694Standard EU country tbh.
>>825690Imo Italy has the most sensible age of consent.
>>825698God. I fucking hate being American.
>>825706A nation founded by puritans, where even your communists are puritans. Rough.
Libs/cons RE: prostitution
>Nooo, think about le women, nooo, think about muh deek
Commies RE: prostitution
>Get a real job, bitch, and help construct socialism or GTFO
Don't make me link Kollontai
>>825760holy BASED
force all whores to become nuclear scientists
>>825683stop watching porn
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