unironically debunk this
I cant, which is why i bought steam game as well
>>825782If what is bound to happen will happen whatver what one is doing then it will also happens whatever one will
not do. Therefore, whether I show up at work or not will not influence the outcome of being fired, promoted, or simply paid. The logical thing to do is therefore to spend all day sleeping or shitposting to spare ourselves the trouble of futile struggle against fate.
free will isn't real but making excuses for stupid decisions is.
>wait how can decisions be real but free will isn't
because your brain makes decisions because of physics, but some people have shitty brains that make shitty decisions. they can't help that they have a shitty brain, but they will be held accountable for it.
>wait how is accountability real if free will isn't
because people with less shitty brains get together and figure out what to do with a person with a shitty brain when that shitty brain produces bad output.
>>825790but then thats not accountability if that person is bound to make bad decisions due to a force outside their own control.
>>825794accountability is just ritualized punishment of people for forces outside of their control. that is what i am saying. it's not fair, but it is socially constructed and even people who know this are willing to accept it in certain situations.
people believe in collective punishment of classes, races, genders too. people believe the tsar's son should have been shot for being the tsar's son, even though he himself wasn't an adult and hadn't yet done anything wrong.
people are cruel and in general have shitty brains, but they are also victims of forces beyond their control. everything is like the weather.
>>825794>>825796also you can try and curtail your shitty brain by getting brain surgery or taking drugs, and that might work, or it might not. more likely it will just change what kind of shitty decisions your brain makes. you will make some less shitty decisions in some situations and more shitty decisions in others. or you could get lobotomized and become a total vegetable. or you could get random brain damage from an accident like phineas gage.
>>825801>>825796>>825790Your predetermined brain will cause you to kys within a year or two
>>825806i highly doubt it.
>>825806>when you have no counterarg so you just tell the person to kill themselvesi'm sorry your brain is like this
people really don't want to believe that they don't have free will but i tell you this the closest approximation to free will you can get is accepting that free will isn't real and you are not immune to the laws of physics, just like you are not immune to propaganda.
True freewill does not exist. "Freewill," i.e., human agency, is determined by material circumstances and conditions.
>>825813
I am the anon egoism flag is responding to and I assume you are referencing transgender suicide rates? I don't understand the point you are trying to make by doing this. Are you accusing egoism flag of being transgender? Are you revelling in the fact that trans people kill themselves sometimes? Does that make you feel good? It seems to me you are doing some kind of performative bullying. I feel mild disgust. I am not transgender but the very act of denying it will probably make you feel smug.
>>825796>>825801this conclusion is too extremist since youre applying edge cases to everyone. some people are mentally ill and make bad decisions ≠ everyone who makes bad decisions is mentally ill and thus cannot take accountability
>>825821ok so you're just being a weird bully, stop it if you are able
>>825822a mentally ill brain is just a malfunctioning brain according to the standards of society. but a perfectly functioning brain is still producing decisions based on things beyond its control. nobody is in control and everyone is held accountable.
>>825820That’s xitter "humor". Channers love Cardposting.
>humor
>>825840There is no humor uygha, I want you to die
>>825843If those transgender Nazis are killing Amerifart imperialists and destroying European colonialism, then I'm critically supporting trainnies
Auschwitz or the great alibi?
a couple of weirdos ITT have been cursed with the type of brain unable to accept free will isn't real so they started involuntarily spamming nazi propaganda, anti-trans content, and mental gymnastics about nazism being anti imperialist to change the subject away from what makes them really uncomfortable
>>825842that sounds like a you problem
>>825850Hitler destroyed the European colonial empires
That is anti-imperialism
I don't care about transgenders if they are destroying the West, who are the main purveyors of the rotting capitalist mode of production
>>825851Nope. Idc about the Ustashe
>>825860>>825843same anon trolling badly from two positions
>>825854>Hitler destroyed the European colonial empiresI'm pretty sure USA and USSR did this while Nazi Germany seeked to establish its own colonies.
>>825865sorry anon i get my history from sinfest
>>825862This but unironically
>>825865No, Hitler did it by exhausting Europe and making colonialism untenable
The Nazi mode of production was never sustainable (read Adam Tooze's Wages of Destruction). I mean, these are the same guys that sacrificed their own Jewish bourgeoisie to sustain themselves
If Hitler was successful in smashing the state capitalist shithole known as the USSR and winning WW2, the unipolar Nazis would've probably collapsed into revolution
Better than the gay imperialist Cold War we got
>>825782What is the point of debunking this even when you just change the name of how you'd call the result of your judgement.
You can still say "no" for doing a thing just like you say "yes", and both would be "fate" at the end, there is literally nothing you can derive from this phenomenon. Whether you licked the dirt out of your free will or fate, you've had your own particular conditions and at the end did the action.
Each mind may have its own particular relation with other things, and a special molecular composition that is of course subject to the movements in the nature, like how a discourse with a friend may do changes in your worldview. You can also think about scenarios where you are bold and would create a device that manipulates the electro-chemical signals in the central neural system to turn someone into your intelligent drone. Then you'd declare your victory: "there is no free will!"
But at the end, why does it matter? How can one, perhaps inquiring the truth of the knowledge, be sure that he not in the way received the knowledge not in its purest form, but molded by the instruments(observation), criterions(assumptions) he used.
Maybe at the background there is the god almighty and your soul can actually judge things, and the brain accordingly shapes to that. Who knows…. who would actually prove? Is there even a thing to be proven when the topic itself is about what abstract value would hold against free will?
>>825860Funny of D'Annunzio and Hitler are on the same page here.
D'Annunzio never called himself a fascist and in he was kept away from Italian politics by the fascist government. He was an avid opposer of Germany by the way.
>>825870>state capitalist shitholeI wonder, is it because of leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2893668.html that the USSR is so often called a state capitalist shithole?
>>825870>state capitalismwhy do people repeat this retarded buzzword. point me to 1 example of capitalism that isnt state capitalism
>>825877Because it is enforced by a state bureaucracy rather than private companies and individuals
In the USSR, workers still do not own the means of production, they still sell labor-power, and they still produce surplus value, which is then extracted by the state rather than a company
Only fucking retards simp for Soviet anti-fascism
>>825874everyone knows you can just close the window, change your VPN, and come back. the (Yous) won't show up that way.
>>825877>why do people repeat this retarded buzzwordThey read about it on r/ultraleft
>>825890you're the schizo trying to pretend LGBT liberation mvst always be tied to fascism and cannot be independent of reactionary politics
>>825887yea they probably just get most of their political beliefs from memes. bleak
>>825877>state capitalism is just a buzzworddamn…. lenin was using buzzwords?
<The state capitalism, which is one of the principal aspects of the New Economic Policy, is, under Soviet power, a form of capitalism that is deliberately permitted and restricted by the working class. Our state capitalism differs essentially from the state capitalism in countries that have bourgeois governments in that the state with us is represented not by the bourgeoisie, but by the proletariat, who has succeeded in winning the full confidence of the peasantry. Lenin, To the Russian Colony in North America, 14th November, 1922
And Mao?
<The present-day capitalist economy in China is a capitalist economy which for the most part is under the control of the People's Government and which is linked with the state-owned socialist economy in various forms and supervised by the workers. It is not an ordinary but a particular kind of capitalist economy, namely, a state-capitalist economy of a new type. It exists not chiefly to make profits for the capitalists but to meet the needs of the people and the state. True, a share of the profits produced by the workers goes to the capitalists, but that is only a small part, about one quarter, of the total. The remaining three quarters are produced for the workers (in the form of the welfare fund), for the state (in the form of income tax) and for expanding productive capacity (a small part of which produces profits for the capitalists). Therefore, this state-capitalist economy of a new type takes on a socialist character to a very great extent and benefits the workers and the state. - Mao Zedong, On State Capitalism, July 9th, 1953
>>825905tatsuya ishida, i….
>everything is fate
I smell christcuckery from this.
>>825910"Not fat, but healthy and buxom." You know that sounds like something you should put on a dating profile. Just say a well known historical figure said it. People probably won't even know you're quoting ᴉuᴉlossnW.
>>825838Tito did all that only to bitch out at Stalin and suck American cock
>>825945
I don't like Stalin, retard
Thats awesome. No interprut wize tho
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