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Why is blaming society bad? Isn't this what any smart person would do?

it's not bad, why would you think that?

I do not blame society, for I know to be cruel and indofferent is in its nature. I blame myself for not having the courage to strike at it.

>>832779
maybe lacking courage is just in your nature tho.

>>832776
Boomers trying to avoid looking like le bad guys

hmmm

>>832776
boomers

You've got to pick yourself up from your boot-straps boy that's why!

we live in a society. and that's just a fact.

>>832779
>strike at society
>society sends you to jail
>get buttraped by tyrone and become a prison hoe

no thank you, I don't consider keeping your asshole safe from rape as cowardice

>>832869
rightoids can't not bring up prison gay rape for a single post

>>832776
boomers

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>>832869
t. picrel

what people usually mean when they talk about blaming society is blaming the system, but the system is not society. society existed long before the system and it will exist long after it and no one can be outside of it like they can be outside of the system.

>>832775
Society is just other people, and people are just emanations from nature, and nature is morally neutral… is what you're supposed to say… but actually nature is evil. If anyone acted like nature they'd be called evil.

>>832903
How do you not act "like nature"?

>>832903
Is this an admittance that reality is rightwing coded lmao

>>832906
No, its a cope

>>832906
Passively accepting reality as it currently is with no effort to change it is.

>>832903
>Society is just other people, and people are just emanations from nature, and nature is morally neutral
a chain of logic so brittle that a tender touch would burst it into a spark of starry sugar

>>832906
anon has wasted time in this shithole for who knows how many months or years, surrounding himself with people he hates and who hate him back, but willing to withstand it in anticipation of his big Moment, where he will be able to seize upon a small hint of idiocy in the words of an unmindful green poster as desperate proof that he does not need to think, does not need to pay heed to those disconcerting antitheses he reads occasionally on social media, because even his opponents – he assures himself – do not really believe he is wrong. this is his moment of triumph. "finally", he whispers to himself, "they admit it". this revelation has no effect on the game of the gods, which goes on forever.

>>832869
If you can't strike at society without getting caught that's a skill issue tbh.

>>832775
Anybody who tells you it's wrong to blame society is part of the society. Therefore you should blame them.

>>832906
How do you mean? I think most Christians reject the idea that nature is evil, they call that gnosticism. God made the world and it was good. Or they say it used to be even better but man corrupted it with sin (but where did the sin come from if not God). Other traditional beliefs usually go with cycles of good/bad, or society as a living being (starts young and energetic, grows into middle age stability, then decays into senility and death), or linear degeneration like the Greek ages of men starting with gold to silver to heroic etc. and each age has less virtue. Maybe the Buddhists believe something like that, not sure (life is suffering).

If you mean something about competition (nature is war, all else is error) maybe, but I'm not sure, nature is certainly mostly rape, starvation, and suffering, and the left acts like barbarism is closer to nature, except when it comes to tribal people oddly enough. On the other hand, evolution has a whiggish logic, the left isn't opposed to war or competition, Marx and Engels loved evolution, Kropotkin wrote much about cooperation in nature (which is true enough but also a bit of cope, like two tribes cooperating to genocide the 3rd). It's usually the right that rejects evolution because it says man is just another animal although there are atheist right-wingers who embrace it as an excuse to cull the weak. Religious right-wingers act like evolution is true (there's no atheist quiver-full movement). Both left and right are fine with killing millions to establish their "superior" society.

Cyclical history is often called conservative as opposed to the left's whiggish linear progression but the old Marxists thought society would both advance and bring back elements of older societies (the whole spiraling dialectic thing) like how hunter-gatherers were supposedly primitive communists or Lenin on how prole democracy would resemble democracy from antiquity. I guess it's like evolution where traits can be dormant or vestiges and then later reused or repurposed when conditions are right.

>>832989
Just give a crumb of criticism. I guess technically you're supposed to say nature is AMORAL but whatever. Dawkins calls nature "pitilessly indifferent" then poetically described widespread suffering beyond human comprehension, if you inflicted a sliver of this on anyone you'd be called a psychopath. I guess you'd say morality is only applicable to creatures of some minimal intelligence and thus doesn't apply to abstract nature/ecology/evolution. People also say states and corpos are amoral despite being made of people. Will the real moral agents please stand up?

>>832905
Communists say they want to move beyond the realm of necessity and be lords of nature (Engels).

This discussion reminded me of a funny split in feminism. There's the hippie feminists who cast feminity as divine, the cosmic womb, men are jealous of women's power to create life. Then there's the (niche online) radfems/black pilled fems who say that's insane, watch any nature documentary, to be a female animal is to be raped, to suffer horrible pain, to be weaker than the males (at least for mammals, with rare exceptions), nature gave us patriarchy, why worship what oppresses you, FUCK NATURE, cut down the Amazon, nuke the whales, and so on. Or maybe they say we should emulate elephant society instead. Also the cyber feminists who's motto is if nature is unjust, change nature. But I guess everyone being a sexless cyborg is still nature right.

>>832874
I'm not a rightoid what do you mean, I just used the name tyrone as a harmful stereotype

>>832891
yes


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