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Commiexisters.. it's over..

uh, that's not what exploitation is

>>834170
It's the reverse, we are exploiting nature. A literal definition of exploitation is working a piece of land.

im ancap now

>>834170
Exploitation doesn't mean "when life is hard" you fucking retard.
Nature doesn't extract stuff from human labor.

-I realized something. If we don't force workers to work for subsistence wages every day, we'll starve to death.
-Yes, so what?
-We're being exploited by the working class!

>>834187
the gem that shut OP up

Humans indeed were oppressed by nature as hunter-gatherers and that's why we had the Neolithic Revolution and developed agriculture.

>>835387
Yes that's why humans rebelled against nature and still the socialist aim is to be lord over nature (Engels). And everyone is so happy with that as you can see.

>>834170
uh, the natural state of the world isn't an engineered system like society is. nature is cold and indifferent, it doesn't exploit, it merely is. your joke isn't funny.

>>834170
It's actually true and leftism is always, fundamentally, battling this. This is one of the many things at the root of the current transgender culture war, and why transhumanists are left wing and transphobes are always functionally right wing. They see "oppression from nature" and go: quite so, we should just accept this, instead of going: right, let's fix it.

>>834170
I consider it a victory for socialism that we've caused right-wing anti-socialist discourse to shift from faux populism (the socialists want a big gubbermand that will oppress the people!) to openly arguing for class relations and socio-economic hierarchy because its all stems from muh natural order.

God you people are so retarded. I think I have the simplest analogy to explain to you why you are retarded, and hopefully you're not too retarded to understand it.

>There is no connection between the concept of exploitation and need to produce your own sustenance in nature. For example in a slave society, if someone called for the abolition of slavery and then someone made the same comic, but with the punchline "we are enslaved by nature!"

I'm not going to bother trying to explain to you what an apple is and what an orange is, hopefully you can rub your two braincells together enough to understand that they are different things.