>the revolution should be led by an elite vanguard (people who agree with me) that will stamp out any reactionary elements (people who disagree with me)
>Workers democracy is actually bad because the proletariat don’t know what’s good for themselves and they need a strong leader (me) to engineer society for them
Why are ML's like this?
wow, a political position that advocates for things it agrees with instead of things it disagrees with? this is surely a vice unique to marxism-leninism
Yeah, they are not the brightest.
Booklet thread
>sectarian shitflinging thread
>didn't even have the decency to post it in /leftypol/
>instead decided to shit up the board for gooning and shitposts
look, whatever your criticisms are of ML and AES regimes, I prefer them to neoliberal regimes, fascist regimes, theocracies, US backed coup regimes, military juntas, etc… I think one could even mount a pretty convincing critique of the vanguard party form as an outdated relic of an age before nuclear weapons, and a form which tends to become a corrupt bureaucracy resembling a capitalist firm… but this is just a shitty low effort bait thread. You aren't even trying to say anything interesting, new, or educational.
>>834588Just report for rule 14 f, ultra/leftcom rule-breaking posts need to stack some 10-20 reports before the mods actually do something so you better do it.
>>834569Lenin said that workers, left to their own devices, will only attain trade union consciousness. Are there any counter-examples? But if it's true it pretty much destroys Marxism, because Marx argued socialism can only come from below, not above.
>>834597Do pre-industrial societies count? e.g. Zapatista territories
Why is Lenin considered a universal expert? They were instrumental in one revolution in one empire, and that's a wealth of real and valuable experience but not enough to declare general statements like OP has framed them. The kind mr illich would have shot everyone here for being a big headed cultist, the kind of idol worshipper who would mummify a fucker and put them on display for 100 years.
All ML states are basically the philosopher dictatorship from Platos Republic. However, out of the dozens of them, only China was not ruled by dysgenic retards, thats why all other ML states either collapsed or fell behind capitalist states.
>>834597workers could just get smarter