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A jew cannot possibly become the capitalist who owns the means of production (like banks or media companies), control the country trough massive wealth or exploit the working class in any way in a socialist system.

What, that Jews are so ethno-centric? Yes, Jewish-exclusive institutions are seriously politically backward.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/index.htm

>>835627
>A jew cannot possibly become the capitalist who owns the means of production (like banks or media companies), control the country trough massive wealth or exploit the working class in any way in a socialist system.
I assume this is a sarcastic expression of what you imagine leftoids think? rest assured, nobody thinks this, but if you would like to take credit for this very stupid opinion as what you sincerely believe, you are more than welcome. Any person from any group can become a capitalist or exploiter. Whether they are more or less likely to is a matter of identity politics.
>>835619
>Is there a leftoid solution for the "Jewish Question"?\
the solution is for people to stop believing in fairy tales like theological and racial supremacy. period. that applies toe everyone.
>I would assume it's something like, assimilation?
assimilate with who? there are several groups of gentiles with different cultures.
>Or do you even view it as a problem to begin with?
I view it as a problem insofar as any group is capable of supremacism, ethnonationalism, theocratic horsefeathers, and so forth.

>>835629
So I'm reading in that article that Marx generally abhorred religion and wanted to get rid of it. I didn't read all of it. Why not just have a secular state with freedom of worship?

>>835632
I think that is the right call today for societies in europe, east asia, etc. But you have to remember that in many of these societies in the 20th century, and many societies today, organized religion had very significant economic and political influence. The Catholic Church was the largest landowner in Hungary, and Mindszenty used his expansive influence to say that anyone who worked with Communists would be excommunicated. In that scenario, that's not just a Church asking for donations so they can put a "God loves you!" billboard up. These are serious threats that originate with how powerful the religious body is, thus demanding serious curtailment. In Vietnam, the founder of Hoa Hao was under the protection of Japan, then was a diehard anti-Communist who declared the Viet Minh to be more of a danger than France, and declared a Holy War against them. What do you do in that case? In this case, Vietnam actually banned them until their organization became more palatable in the 90s.
Now, hoping religion will magically go away by just banning it is a joke, but its not like there's some universal blueprint that we can just type out, you need to analyse the situation of organized religion in your nation.

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>>835633
Yeah

It's interesting but if you read the Constitution there is an article in there which specifically prohibits the favoring of one religion over another.. Yet, at the same time, we have vested interests in Israel which in my opinion has its origins and claims in religion, specifically Judaism.. So, the fact that America overwhelmingly supports Israel is, in my mind, incredibly unconstitutional to begin with. Buuuut, on the other hand, there has been so many articles and amendments that have been dishonored throughout the history of this nation that the Constitution might as well be toilet paper at this point in time.

>>835633
That came out a bit chopped, I meant to say better that the central federal State of my country, is constitutionally binded to never favor any religion overwhemingly, and yeah that seems to have been disobeyed by politicians so I don't know. It is a problem but how do you remove it so it doesn't interfere in the civic life?

>>835627
sorry that's too logic and succint! fascists will say that communist officials control everything just like capitalists, and that there's no difference because daj00z will be behind it regardless. to them democracy and transparency does not exist in any form

And yeah that's the problem with constitutions, either written or unwritten, especially unwritten, it gets heavily distorted overtime

>>835619
The leftoid solution is that Jews are perfectly fine in America. There has never been any pogrom against Jewish people in America. Jewish people are one of the richest ethnicities/religious communities in America. They are perfectly fine. There are a select few American Jews I truly respect like Max Blumenthal and his compatriot Aaron Mate. Nothing will ever happen to them. They will never be put into camps despite going against the narrative of the Jewish diaspora. It is perfectly safe for Jews to be anti-Israel.

>>835647
But on that note, the people most likely to harm or kill these Jews are Jews themselves, that's how it is.

>>835629
I said that a jew cannot become the capitalist under SOCIALISM