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Another 10 billion duel tech by child labor and blood diamonds to Israel :)

You missed the part where he was referring to Russia's backward economy and that its not something that applies to all countries.

Besides, I don't understand why you people trot out this argument when none of you support actual communism (without private property, money, commodity production) in any Western country as well.

Like leftists don't support actual communism in the West as well. Before Leftcoms came to the scene, 99% of leftists didn't even know that you're supposed to abolish money. And even now they don't have any political party that advocates for actual communism anywhere, in UK or US or EU. It's social democracy all the way down.

You also missed the part where he considered lower state socialism possible with 1920s Germany level of technology which is why they depended on the German Revolution

>>837660
technology is always relative to imperialism. China is way more strong than 1920s Germany, but it is still weaker than NATO. So its ability to build world socialist revolution without overwhelming imperialist interference is dependent on its relative level of development compared with the current strongest capitalist bloc (NATO). China has 10 offshore bases, America has 800, China has a few hundred nukes, America has thousands, China has a relatively small sphere of "social imperialist" influence (you know… it's kind of funny how you demand AES spread socialism but if it actually tries to do so through practical means, it's "social imperialism."), while America has a much larger sphere of influence. The ability to change the mode of production is not dependent on the ABSOLUTE level of productive forces, but the RELATIVE productive forces. If proletarian dictatorship is weaker than the global bourgeois dictatorship, then it is unreasonable to expect it to complete socialist construction, without an incredible amount of luck.

>>837659
>abolish money
money is a superstructural expression of exchange and no amount of babbling about labor vouchers can change that. The temple/palace economies of the ancient near east got by just fine without coined money or bills of exchange. They were able to exploit labor just fine, both slaves and "free" artisans, without money. Ledgers and schedules are enough to achieve exchange, and exchange is a product of property. If an object is alienable, and secured only by one individual, or one small group of individuals, it can be exchanged. Abolishing money does not abolish exchange, or the alienation of objects of human labor. And exploitation is a byproduct of one's labor contribution being variable (one day you are sick, one day you are healthy, one day you are well-rested/fed, one day you are tired and hungry) while compensation is constant (the ruling class doles out a more or less unchanging subsistence regardless of your variable contribution). From this difference surplus can be expropriated. Pre-money economies had exploitation. Vicious and deadly exploitation.

>>837704
Where does China sponsoring 99% of the world's bourgeoisie dictatorships while brainwashing its population with nationalistcuck brainrot fits into your totally invented cope with no basis in theory btw