/tech/ - Technology

>>30050
Disillusionment of the mainstream narrative. Community building. Finding the "secret" ultimate knowledge that in turn makes one superior to others. I think for the same reason right wing mentality takes people to believe in reptilians, go into hardcore math, go into hardcore analytic philosophy, become religious in a religion that's not the common one where they're from (Muslim in a Catholic area) or just very religious in general.

You try to find answers somewhere. Ironically this is what drove me to Marxism and then it helped me realized the pursuit of such was not fruitless but unachievable. There is no "ultimate truth" or the such. Doesn't mean I've shed the desire to find such things. For example, I really wanted to find the One True Programming Language, and this craving has led to a lot of discovery and learning. Politically, trying to find the true interpretation of x or y.

I think you see this in people who seem to describe Marxism as a spiritual force, an immortal science, even proletarian science of liberation or some shit. Of course the people who say that Marxism "is just a tool" haven't really read enough, but also those who see in Marxism an esoteric gospel are a bit lost.

It's easy to lose oneself.

>>30050
first of all, a materialist explanation would be much harder than just a regular explanation, your shitty thread doesn't deserve that

>FOSS nerds
except they aren't? they like OSS, the free part is always questioned because it is seen as woke. it is no coincidence that it is the part they dismiss (the F) the one that is more inconvenient for the companies these people claim to oppose. of course, their true enemy is the state and the private sector is only bad insofar as they are "accomplices" of the state. like any other libertarian movement, they have an explicit petite bourgeois line "open source and the repudiation of copyright would create more competitive markets" and an implicit lumpen line "it is slightly harder for us middle class criminals to get away with stuff now". their support for anything is flimsy and unreliable and if you ever trust them with your software they will eventually stab you in the back because the only logic they truly follow is opportunism

why are these particular characters popular? the material reason is that their audience is uneducated and easily deceived by conmen. the only video I watched of luke smith was him criticizing stallman, followed by the announce that he was going to start reading thomas aquinas and then a comment about how the word "nature" doesn't just mean trees and grass but how things are supposed to be or would normally be without external influences. this last explanation took him several minutes and was conveyed with the gravitas of invaluable esoteric knowledge, his chat was very impressed. I don't think they have read a full wikipedia article in their lives, let alone a book. I can only blame the education system, them, the internet, and their parents (in that order)

and that's really all you need in the context of a country the us and the minds it has colonized through the internet with an already libertarian mainstream narrative. as a last note, calling them nerds is an overstatement, these people are mostly consumers of the software, not programmers

>>30051
liberal nonsense. no one gives a shit about community anymore, you are an exception or a liar

>>30051
I've come to similar conclusions regarding searches for some ultimate truth or higher meaning to the universe all that search will yield is disappointment and delusion. ppl should just come to terms with some ambiguity in their life and stop craving somesort of higher meaning

>>30050
/g/ always existed as an intersection of FOSS ideas and paranoid right wing libertarian-fascism, which is kind of an understandable fusion even if most actual FOSS people are libs and lefties
However, it seems like imageboard subcultures are seeping onto social media platforms like YouTube, and these 2 are grifting that trend

>Many lolberts and rightoids seem to think that loonix and open-source software is some privacy-protecting alternative to woke big-tech surveillance and censorship.
it's not?

>>30050
Isn't FOSS essentially liberalism.
There's overlap between the essentially liberal political spectrum and liberalism.

>>30059
absolutely. im into it for practical reasons, but its literally just a consumer movement

I could've sworn we had this thread already when I first got here. Guess it finnaly bumped out.

Chuds can play the YouTube algorithm because they have the luxury of not having to care about infosec. They can benefit from the facial detection bonus in the YouTube algorithm because they don't say anything that poses a real threat to youtube, with stallman-esque "freedom under one roof" rhetoric, as though there isn't inherent adversity between FOSS and proprietary software that one would overtake the other if were one to relax in reclusion as they suggest. Meanwhile pretty much every politically active leftist tech youtuber I can think of it some type vTuber and have to do song covers to prop up their tech stuff or take on huge dev projects because the primary audience legit uses RSS readers because it's an objectively better way of using the internet, instead of fantasizing about it as a method of digital self-flagellation as /g/chuds do regarding anything that requires learning a skill or unlearning a dark pattern.

>>30050
I think its individualism mixed with not understanding capitalism. They are initially attracted to FOSS because its free, for them in particular, which they like. But they think its an alternative to monopoly and that you can vote with your wallet and that regulatory capture is "crony capitalism" instead of the logical result of market competition. So they think their consumerism is activism and helping return us to true capitalism which is human nature and good. Which when they become moderately successful programmers for FAANG or internet celebrities becomes reinforced, where before they would be against intellectual property on supposedly universal grounds now that they have a stake they switch sides and defend IP law because its in their interest, forgetting that regulatory capture means their advocacy amounts to Disney et al getting to take their IP legally. What I find very disappointing is the number of reactionaries on private torrent trackers. A lot see themselves as cool digital gangsters, as if pirates were historically criminals for crimes sake instead of radically democratic compared to the empires of their day.

I think it should be mentioned that Luke Smith has shilled Brave Browser in the past which is essentially a crypto scheme masquerading as a browser.

>>30056
If you have any kind of formal employment, financial or medical history, it's pointless to consider the privacy benefits open-source software. Unless, the activities you're trying to hide are done exclusively on an encrypted p2p network, but that too could bite you in the ass someday.

>>30052
>>30057
Lay down the serious hat for a bit.

>>30050
>>30062
Lunduke has been covered for being a petit bourgeois piece of shit already, see: >>28088

No idea about the other guy, but I think Luke Smith is actually on a trajectory to de-chuddify. The barrier is his viewership/fanbase.

OP I'm confused as shit too, he constantly rails about the negative consequences of profit-motivated design, but then simultaneously he stinks of lolbertism. I can only conclude he experiences a lot of dissonance

>>30050
Luke is a terminal contrarian who repeatedly overcorrects. I don't have a materialist critique of him.
> DEI is bad so thus catholicism must be good. > Consumerism is bad so all corporate jobs are horrible
Etc.
>>30119
I was in a similar situation as Luke and I ended up as a leftist because I realized leftist ideologies are the ones who actually want to reward hard work and bettering your community. Right wing ideologies only do this incidentally.

>>30062
>A lot see themselves as cool digital gangsters, as if pirates were historically criminals for crimes sake instead of radically democratic compared to the empires of their day.
Pirates were a kind of proletarian dictatorship…but lets just say most of them were gross Johnny Depp guys and not based lesbian pirate queens!
These PMC redditors are pirates in the sense of being downwardly-mobile petite bourgeois who emerge during a crisis in capitalism and instead of being low paid servants of the ruling class, choose to be thuggish parasites who steal the fruits from farm and factory laborers. Same thing as happened during the rise and fall of the British empire