/ufo/ - Paranormal and Conspiracies

How can you tell if someone's masking complete and utter madness?

>a world govt exists
not yet
>a conspiracy exists
several conspiracies exist. if workers conspire to get higher wages, that's a conspiracy called a union. if capitalists conspire to suppress unions, that's a conspiracy called union busting.
>the behavior of the elite
which elite?
>cannot be explained by money alone
nobody said it could, not even marx

>>1613
>>1614
Life's all bread and circuses or looking forward to that unless you're sick in the head and want the power for your bullshit.

>>1615
>not yet
Why then does everything happen the same everywhere?
Although what I'm talking about is, take literally the Epstein files - the entire elite from all countries is intertwined there, and they are also edited beyond recognition and not fully posted.
>which elite?
First of all, aristocratic (in our time with a predominance of Jewry).
>nobody said it could
Literally all leftists, and if you mention that people are actually living, breathing human beings who aren't obsessed with money 24/7, you get labeled an idealist, an idpoler, a conspiracy theorist, etc.

I heard we're in a bubble for breeding elephants. You can see them everywhere in history.

>>1613
Did you post these? >>>/lgbt/10576 and >>>/siberia/822915

>>1613
>Moreover, the behavior of the elite cannot be explained by money alone.
Most normies engage the system to get money and shit. What else do you think is involved?

>>1628
>The elite are not normies.
I mean psychological normies, people that just do it to have and keep stuff. No one chooses to be born into an elite family. What do you think could be involved in this?

>>1621
If they're creating elephants then what's their reasons behind it?

>>1628
Did you not read the files? Epstein was literally the most aggressively dumb normie guy in history

>>1629
>>1630
You speak as if Epstein wasn't simply a pimp and Israeli honeypot, with no direct connection to any aristocratic families or anyone else higher.
Okay, but what about loosh farm? If the elite just wanted money and power, they would simply turn the entire world into a gulag. Instead, we have relative freedom, much of which is used to provoke negative emotions and pit people against each other.

>>1631
>Okay, but what about loosh farm?
That's the purpose of life, and suffering which is non-consensual and chaotic loosh is the cheapest but not the only form of loosh to produce. Humans surrender to vices and that means you have to defeat and keep all 7 sins at bay to prevent suffering from being hand waved away as necessary to the economy because of popular convenience. If some aristocrats get blackmailed, how do you suppose you would save them from that if you're a rabid Marxist? It would save you both the trouble of suffering.

>If the elite just wanted money and power, they would simply turn the entire world into a gulag.
That's not cheap at all.

>Instead, we have relative freedom, much of which is used to provoke negative emotions and pit people against each other.
The desire to create non-consensual loosh in each other, right? You deserve it because suffering doesn't offend you in itself. It's useful to you to shame and control others so it has economic value.

>>1632
>That's the purpose of life
Marx/Engels said that all history is the exploitation of one class by another, but surely this must end someday and communism must come?
>and suffering which is non-consensual and chaotic loosh is the cheapest but not the only form of loosh to produce.
Perhaps, especially considering the origins of the term, but I'm simply using loosh as a translation of the Russian word гаввах, meaning that as I see it, the elite only cares about the energy of suffering, and they don't really want to make people happy. Moreover, they're currently testing the waters to see how much they can torture humanity before it starts dying.
>Humans surrender to vices and that means you have to defeat and keep all 7 sins at bay to prevent suffering from being hand waved away as necessary to the economy because of popular convenience.
I don’t get it, are you saying that people are to blame for their suffering because they don’t perform bnei noach?
>If some aristocrats get blackmailed, how do you suppose you would save them from that if you're a rabid Marxist? It would save you both the trouble of suffering.
Why should I save them? Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
>That's not cheap at all.
North Korea, Stalin's USSR, Hitler's Germany. All of these have been tried and succeeded, but even North Korea, the last bastion of totalitarianism, is beginning to implement democratic reforms and grant its citizens increasing freedoms.
>The desire to create non-consensual loosh in each other, right?
Duh
>You deserve it because suffering doesn't offend you in itself. It's useful to you to shame and control others so it has economic value.
I don’t get it

a defacto ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT exists yes

via gamma forms of everyday commerce & objects (abba/ana democracy as social crest)

alphacorporate "share-market" baseline to code/box lex/clock "internets" … no matter what nation foibs the oids

PROFESSORS & MONGERS share their tasty morsels (anyway)

thus the future arises

thus the kozmos unfolds

thus the box becomes better

the eye becomes camera

the camera becomes sun

sun becomes cube

sensor becomes censor

hand becomes archetype

mind becomes mind

dialectic & games become attention

sealed in words

ideas become ideas

taboo vs boredom

novelty vs worth

I AM I

… are you?

>>1613
proofs?

trvke and realk

>world government exists
One world government doesn't exist in a cohesive way, but the colaboration between apparently opposite forces exists, for a "higher" (hierarchically speaking) purpose. The central point of the global deep state is still the highest of the burgeoise class (as a function in current times, but of course most or all of them descends from old timey classes), and they still compete for hegemony. There is no unified mafia yet, not in all fronts, but the rule of the political class over the 99% is the consensus of all elites.

>a conspiracy exists
Many conspiracies exists. Politics is literally the exercise of conspiracy. Private business is no different.

>the behavior of the elite cannot be explained by money alone
Correct, you would have to rely on /x/ stuff to permeate some of that at least to make a valid inference, but I think you can only speculate that. How can you explain systematic sadism through money, psychology or even the occult? The conclusions can be shabby. I think anthropology would be a good serious starting point, if we're discarding the really woo woo theories.

>>1728
>One world government doesn't exist in a cohesive way, but the colaboration between apparently opposite forces exists
That’s what they want you to think. All wars and conflicts are staged.
>if we're discarding the really woo woo theories.
Nothing explains this world better than the loosh farm.

>>1730
>All wars and conflicts are staged.
Considering economic actors mostly always get away with it and never get punished, I can understand why people end up thinking that way, outside of the warsaw pact, the aftermath of ww2 was ridiculous in terms of "justice", all the collaborator bourgeoisie in France, Italy and Germany used the political actors as scapegoat and, outside the truly ideologically convinced like those rabid antisemites that sunk with the ship on purpose, got off not only scott free, but nobody even thought they were partially responsible and should be judged for it.
The fake divide between the ruling class and it's representatives (which can go rogue sometimes if they have the means to do so, mostly military men that were popular) is not as thin as people here sees it

>>1731
>outside of the warsaw pact
Are they somehow special?

>>1732
the bourgeoisie fucking ran before the end of the war yeah ?

>>1733
I don't know how you can be a ML and at the same time sit on a board with conspiracy theories.
A bunch of people of dubious nationality, who came from an enemy country and were sponsored by who knows who, can't stand up to the "bourgeoisie".

Loosh farm isn't real, sadistic monsters who enjoy rape and murder are real. Like people pay to go to war zones to rape children and kill people. It's no different than the human sacrifices and god kings of the bronze age or the brothel factories of classical Greece. The ruling class are sick fucks sometimes. Like Billy Picton kind of shit is just your ordinary boring rich bastard shit. There's no need for bringing the demiurge into it. They're mostly ordinary people who get a rush out of abusing others and feeling powerful. Psychopaths are slightly less intelligent than average but they're really not that different from regular people. They just have all the power in the world to cultivate the worst aspects of themselves.

>>1736
>It's no different than the human sacrifices
Yeah, I'll just believe that all over the world there were sacrifices to the gods just because of sadism and it wasn't forced on us.
>sadistic monsters who enjoy rape and murder are real
Why is violence institutionalized then, and the world such a mess? 99.9% of suffering is invisible to the elite. What's the problem with simply raping children on your own island without creating a Kali Yuga everywhere?