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Is Attack on Titan fash?
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>>21507
An incel and a moron you mean

>>21508
>refuses to fuck mikasa for entire manga
<AIIIIIEEEE ARUMIN I NEED THE BMP NOW NOW NOW I AM BEING CUCKED BY THE UNIVERSE NOOOOOOOOO

>>21509
A lot of it is because of this. Again the author isn’t a terrible writer, just terrible at writing endings and should’ve had someone else write the conclusion to AOT where eren stays dead, or something way more brutal with eren alive and vilified along with all of his supporters with the world permanently fucked

>>21508
Doesn't he also get cucked

>>21511
Can’t be cucked by Jean if you die a virgin first

>>21512
but he reincarnates or some shit

>>21510
he wrote a bunch of imperial propaganda, we can call it terrible

>2 AoT threads in siberia
>Already one in /anime/
really?

Aot has a completely trash ending but what adds fuel to the flame was how pointless it was. From the manga it’s told his actions were to keep eldia safe, but this is far from the case. Causing a rumbling does anything except keep people already in Eldia from being attacked by Marleyan soldiers who were also in the city, coincidentally having the walls destroyed also ensures any Titans interested in eating the inhabitants of Eldia have absolutely no restrictions placed on them for doing so. Both of these problems come to fruition and by the time the manga ends a substantial portion of eldias already fractured population is zero due to murder and mass emigration. Those remaining survivors of Eldia at the cliff in the final chapters, they’re the last ones remaining in this gay ass story because of Eren, everyone that was stuck in Paradis is fucking dead or being eaten by the remaining pure titans before they burn themselves to death without ever becoming human. And none of this actually makes any sense given Isayamas own fucking lore. Reminder, the rumbling starts right after Erens head gets severed by a high caliber AT round directly through the neck by Gabi. Isayama wrote this ending horrendously, he somehow both managed to include the shittiest outcome for the entire planet, and fuck over the perpetrators of it when keeping them safe was the fucking point of having that damage inflicted on the planet in the first place. Oh and all of the geographical damage is just flat out retconned for the most forced and cheesy ending imaginable to say something about violence and fascism without commitment. Bad writing.

I don't see why a story can't have bad outcomes for the people involved. It neither needs to have one side getting what they want nor does it need a deep message to convey. Can't a story simply be the unfolding of events and the audience gets to experience a fictional world?

>>21517
imo lots of people consume stories for escapism purposes so shitty outcomes kinda defeats the point.

>>21518
AoT is a tragedy and lives up exactly to what the genre is about. If people were looking for the good guys to win then they tried to find that in the wrong series. The critique about Eldia not being saved also wrongfully assumes that the story is about Eldia being saved.

>>21517
That’s fine, but you can’t say that for AOT for two reasons.

The ending we got was forced and out of synch with what would actually happen given the authors context for the worlds setup. Eren is fucking dead and the power of the founding titan is long since gone well before he has any reason to be able start a rumbling.
The fact that the rumbling occurs and how it changes the planet still fucks over any sense of consistency and manages to be a considerably less satisfying ending than if Eldia was straight up raised to the ground and the story ended off there.

The ending was shit and poorly thought out. There’s no excuse for Eren, his actions, the retconning and the plot armour it took to even create such a terrible conclusion. Hell I haven’t even touched into the fact that outside of the literal death of paradis island, basically anyone that didn’t already hate Eldia now has zero reason to not want to kill off the remaining Eldians, wether or not they’re even aware that plenty don’t support Erens actions.

>>21520
there's also the fact that the story constantly cocksucks eren and lionizes his edgy retard behavior, it's not like the warning signs weren't there

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>>21518
Have you heard of a tragedy anon it's one of oldest genres of fiction, as the ancient Greeks invented it. And it's considered one of most popular genres of fiction, and is often considered the highest form of art.

>>21518
>people haven't consumed tragedy for escapism/catharsis since fucking civilization existed

tumblr brain moment

the pure titans have been wiped out during the time skip, but in theory there could be some left since eldia was sending them all the time. also in my opinions it should have ended with eren succeeding, but paradis still getting destroyed but from inside due to the fascist who took over, but Isayama is a fascist himself so he of course did nit do that and would rather create an ending which validates the kill or be killed ideology of the fascists and his newly ideologically open segment of audience.

>>6734
Attack on Titan feels like someone had a gigantification + vore/stepping fetish and also liked anime a lot, so they combined the most tropey shonen anime action with the fetish, following an inane plotline. I mean it worked in terms of popularity so you can't claim it's a failure.

>>21522
Escapism is for boredom. Tragedy is entertaining.

>>21582
usually people with that fetish make the giants hot. Nost titans look like they were taken out of some fascist propaganda poster which makes sense since they are seemingly are the stereotypical foreign animalistic subhuman bugmen horde that is only there to destroy.

>>21586
>usually people with that fetish make the giants hot.
Not necessarily, just mainstream. And I mean the main protagonist Titan-shifters are relatively better looking than the brainless NPC-normie titans.
>they are seemingly are the stereotypical foreign animalistic subhuman bugmen horde that is only there to destroy.
LMAO, but even in those depictions there is the interracial element.

>>7016
>mc goes schizo abt doing anything to save his people
>bark meets his bite, starts genociding the planet bc all or nothing
>PSYCH! reveal lelouche plot at 80% completion (not even how lelouching works, lelouche worked because he made what he hated feared, eren made what he cared about hated by those he clearly didn't give a shit about)
>manga ends with some bs 'they all hold hands' ending

>extra pages drop

>actually the whole all or nothing thing was right, mc's home is nuked to oblivion, proving…?

>>6734
Dunno if it's fash but it's way over-rated

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>>6734
The moral of the story:War and hatred is human nature destined to make the same mistakes in a cycle. Communism is supposed to be the end point where the proles destroy themselves as a class and we truly find peace. But would this war cycle keep on going even under communism. I am wary it is even possible to end this glitch with humans.The amount of people that call this ending realistic really made me think tbh. Most Shonens have a feel good ending where peace and friendship overcomes everything. This ending was just a giant blackpill.
AT LEAST TEN YEARS

>>21638
The actual lesson is not to be naïve and commit to a successful genocide. Their punishment is to be stuck in limbo for not going all in.

>>22230
>"Men should be either treated generously or destroyed, because they take revenge for slight injuries - for heavy ones they cannot." - Niccolo Machiavelli

some of the faces looked pretty goofy, story is shit, I am surprised how suddenly people started praising the ending since originally everyone hated it. One piece is better

>>22251
How many people praised the ending of One Piece?

>>22252
I'm sure a lot of people are going to when it happens.

It’s entertaining, but under any scrutiny, the story is retarded, which shouldn’t be surprising considering the author is an unabashed imperial Japan apologist.
The fan interpretations solidify how much he fumbled the story, with every person seemingly parroting either:
1. The story was about how war is inevitable and the cycle will always persist, no matter what we do, so let’s just hold hands and peacefully walk into the inevitable knowing we’re good people.

or the more concerning

2. The story was a cautionary tale that you should always complete genocides of your enemies as they are ontologically evil and must exterminated.

>>22254
natural result of being a liberal. The ideology doesn’t really have anything to offer to refute fascism, other than “it’s not cool to kill” and “actually you are the real homos/jews” so it’s only natural that author failed to offer a real reason why Eren’s plan was wrong other than attacking Eren’s character by making him act in a pathetic way in the end, kind of like how liberals attack Trump or Putin by calling them gay. Also I am 💯 confident that author has fascist sympathies which naturally got in his way once he decided that “billions must die” isn’t cool actually.

>>22257
Yeah he’s absolutely a mild crypto fash at heart.
He openly designed a character after an imperial Japan invasion commander, noting that said war criminal was “frugal and respectable”. He also denied comfort women in Korea being a real problem, as well as saying that Korea occupation benefited Korea in the long run cause their population increased, and Japan was not anywhere near as bad as Nazi germany.

>>22253
If WW3 and/or climte change aren't killing us before

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Would you a Titan, lads?

>>22257
i've seen a theory from fd signifier that isayama was just shitting up the manga on purpose and the anguish and imposter syndrome he was feeling led him to the contradictory and pessimistic worldview he holds rather than any political ideology. he's probably a right-ish edgy liberal

I wish it ended before the time skip.


>>22940
If you don't want the Embed to vanish if the site has a glitch, post the URL and name, moron.
>There is Nothing Good About Attack on Titan's Ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqyFK0-nq3w

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>>22893
You have to ask?

Ending ruined all the themes, show was ruined as soon as Eldia didn't follow through on the Azoumabuto Clans plans.

Could have done the rumbling pre warning, then attempt diplomatic relations with Nations who were colonized by Marley, create an anti-colonial alliance and show discrimination against the Eldians is not needed, with the ending following the themes of a better world rid of imperialism or genocide, not bullshit fascist movement on the Eldian Island which ruined the direction of the story, but would've been good if the volunteers won that battle.

Bad ending, nice anime.

Zeke was right

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>>22251
>some of the faces looked pretty goofy, story is shit, I am surprised how suddenly people started praising the ending since originally everyone hated it.
>One piece is better
Based

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AoT is a confused mess and most of its /a/-fans are neo-fash, pic rel

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>>21522
>Have you heard of a tragedy anon it's one of oldest genres of fiction, as the ancient Greeks invented it. And it's considered one of most popular genres of fiction, and is often considered the highest form of art.
Reading this I couldn't help hearing this with Palpatine's voice lol.

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https://archive.is/eRg2R

Why have our main characters and extended cast act in an cooperative manner, some advocating peace or a better world like Armin, or The Volunteers relative to justice for their own nations and national liberation, only to end the show with genocide and perpetual war.

if the entire theme and point of the show is about freedom and oppression, then the show has failed by displaying an pessimistic ending, not a positive one of escaping the cycle of war, ending oppression and actually gaining freedom.

The plot could have been written better, the author chose not to write the story, not even attempt to mirror actual 20th Century History of oppression and freedom.

>>25394
>the crypto fascist author thinks an ending where conflict is transcended is "hokey"
well golly

>>25396
Anon, don't be a prat. The idealism of end to contention and war is unrealistic, and depending on the story may or may not make sense. It makes sense in Naruto since that's part of the over-arching theme/story of Naruto's path. It wouldn't necessarily make sense for other stories however.

You know what, Eren doing a full rumbling was the only way to make the ending good. All Isayama had to do was fulfill the narrative promises made in earlier chapters and have him genocide the entire world and kill or permanently estrange all of his friends, and then destroy titan powers. He comes home and retires but is consumed by guilt and retires. Despite 'winning' all his friends are dead, including ones who would be on his side like Floch, except for Historia who not to be a shipper, (if we're talking pure shipping Ymir x Historia was the only couple with any chemistry ever in the entire series), was obviously meant to have a child with him. His hollow victory means he becomes an absent father and he despises himself like Reiner did. Over the years he comes to realise that the entire situation could have been resolved through diplomacy and that his friends were right. Historia dies of natural causes and it looks like a civil war is going to break out betwen the fascist survey corps and his fascist daughter who thinks Eren used to be a great man but got weak, and they are threatening each other with Nuclear bombs like TNO basically, because eradicating titans did not eradicate weapons of mass destruction. Resigned, he sits back and waits for them to kill each other. He had completely won but it meant nothing in the long run. But when he opens his eyes the bombs haven't been dropped. They'd sorted things out peacefully without genocide. The ending is positive and the future is bright, with people co-operating and building nuclear energy instead of weapons. The story's narrative is completed satisfyingly with Eren realizing he was wrong and finally smiling as a better world is built.

bruh, i 100% thought it was anti-fash, but I stumbled upon the whole @migiteorerno drama and now I'm thinking else wise lmao

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>>23814
yes but he did not go far enough, he should have pulled of the rumbeling with eren and then get rid of the rest of humans eldians with his plan.


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