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https://thecartdriver.wordpress.com/2020/02/14/psycho-pass-carole-and-tuesday-and-more-why-anime-features-anti-immigration-elections/

I see a lot of people like in the article’s author, especially leftists, talk about it, and honestly? I’m not seeing it, at all. Maybe because I haven’t been active in the anime fandom for a decade by now (last discourse I got caught up in was the dumb flame war over “elitists” vs “casuals” on MAL), or maybe because I only consoome old (read: 1990s, 2000s and early 2010s) media because I don’t like much of contemporary media, but can’t say with certainty, but I just don’t see it.

Sure, perhaps the proportion of Japanese creators being chuds increased in recent years, but I don’t see that being particularly well-reflected in the current output of the Japanese animation and comic industries. The political messaging of 20th century and early 2000s anime and manga seems to be same as 2020s anime and manga insofar that both are all over the place in equal amounts.

Among “chuddy” anime, I can only think of GATE (literal JSDF propaganda), HighSchool Of The Dead (zombie shounen ecchi horror with big tiddie girls made by a far-right mangaka who hates leftists, supports the JSDF, a gun nut, and hates Koreans), and Frieren (what with the genocided human-like predatory demons being portrayed in deterministic ways in spite of showing signs of actual sapience the story never addresses), but that’s about it.

As for manga, the best I can think of as of late is Drama Queen with many seeing the aliens as allegory for immigrants in Japan, although many can’t decide if they’re supposed to be stand-ins for American/Euro expats, tourists, East Asian renters, SEA and SA migrant workers, Kurdish refugees, or a pastiche of all of them. But that’s like an exception compared to the shit-ton of manga that pushes feminist, anti-racist and other socially progressive themes.

I think it has already been discussed before, but Japan being NPC-topia combined with how being a busherite is deemed as the most acceptable way to express oneself in Japanese politics as opposed to, say, being a Maoist might have a lot to do with why a lot of mangakas seem to be chuds, which is easy as the majority of Japanese people in general are disconnected in politics. In fact, the biggest political rallies in recent times are those for pensioner rights, and Japan can be tentatively argued to be a “dictatorship” by the same standards we use to describe Singapore, what with both countries being governed by the same right to centre right party for almost their entire existence, and most liberals regard Singapore as more of a benevolent dictatorship despite having elections, so there’s that.

With that said, I don’t really see any noticeable increase in chud-coded manga and anime, at least not among normie spaces. And of the ones that exist, they’re more of an exception than the norm. In fact, “Psycho-Pass 3” and “20th Century Boys” are the only instances in modern anime and manga in the mainstream market that I remember where the subject of immigration to Japan in modern times has ever been broached without resorting to fantastical allegories like in “Cop Craft”, and all of them treated it neutrally. So I think this concern among leftists is overblown.

But feel free to disagree with me. I don’t think I’m bringing anything new to the table, I just want to be proven wrong.

idk but when you have big names like Murata Yusuke openly spouting eugenics stuff a few days back on twitter with no real backlash from other mangaka it prob says a lot about the country as a whole

>>30168
That sucks. But consider this: Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro was arrested for paying ¥80k to have sex with a 16 yo girl, while Nobuhiro Watsuki got arrested for possessing ‘P. Both are friends of Eichiiro Oda and neither suffered reputational damage at least in Japan following their arrests.

So I’m not surprised that mangakas stick with each other. Chances are, every one of them has some skeleton in the closet so if any one of them complained then an avalanche of back and forth accusations would follow most likely.

In the 70s and 80s Japan actually had socialist politics going on and so the creators during that time reflected that in their works, and several were leftist artists associated with that scene. However the country's politics just completely died since then and all the old creators fell off and became right wing boomers and most of the new creators were psyopped by Moe (the representative of the never-changing fascist social orde).

>>30172
Not sure if Moe is the precursor given that many weebs in the 2000s often complained about moe for its depoliticising effect and for overtaking the 2000s and early 2010s anime scene. This, despite the fact that many of said moe media often featured queer-coded (often shoujo-ai type) stories. But I could see what you mean considering how K-on PFPs has unfortunately been turned into a visual signal for the anon with said PFP being a chud or some flavor of reactionary dork.

For the political aspect, I’m not really sure why it died in Japan, but I guess it’s for the same reasons why leftist revolutions and left wing mass movements have turned into a meme in the west by the final years of the Cold War.

>>30167
Also, I heard the Attack on Titan mangaka was very chuddy too.

>>30182
Really? The only evidence we have so far is the author showing an expy of an infamous Japanese imperial military official in a dignified way. Apart from that, there isn’t much evidence of the author being a chud. In fact, there’s more evidence of him being a cuck who is into NTR than him being a chud.

https://xcancel.com/strugglesm7m/status/1823028769046794440

https://leftypol.org/anime/res/23154.html#q23154

It’s shocking my to see how many popular mangakas are reactionaries. Then again, I guess it’s par of the course for a heavily conformist island country with a dominant party system where said party is Japan’s secularised version of the GOP, so most artists in the entertainment industry that are leftists won’t make it far in a corporate world dominated by right-wingers and anti-leftists in general.

I mean, Japan’s press freedom and free speech laws are a joke since much of the censorship is societally enforced.

In that sense, Mao was right about the cultural revolution, and modern Japan + SK are his greatest points considering how the average middle and upper class chud in SK and Japan eats up low-brow western online right wing slop.

Like, they’re supposed to be +1k-old civilisations with their own high culture, and yet their right-wingers are either busherites or have their brains melted by /pol/.

And it’s notable since 4chan took many cues from 2Channel, and yet 4chan made more of a dent in global online culture than 2channel. Perhaps because the latter blocked American ISPs, but I think the general East Asian provincialism and unwillingness to confront diverse views is partially why despite dominating in soft power, neither Japan nor SK nor China (both Taiwan and the PRC) have managed to produce their own contemporary intellectual culture and philosophy with global appeal.

The only non-American countries that I can think of would be Russia with communism and national Bolshevism, and France with the “New Right”, although the French right is now terminally online as most of its non-French western counterparts and mostly regurgitates /pol/-type amerislop all the way to the Freudian obsession with BBC and BNWO.

Anime has definitely gotten less chuddy, but because libs view japan as chinese-adjacent for being asian, the few chuddy elements get amplified in the discourse.

>>30212
After epstein and all that, I'm beyond convinced that right-wingers do have guys paid by Washington to make them love America and spread american politics, every fucking right-wing party in the world is pro-US and are the first guys to spread discourse that started in english social medias.
And they say leftists are brainwashed and shit

>>30212
The Tanya saga being a communist is the biggest gaslight. They are a classical liberal or what they constantly label themselves as, a "conservative liberal", but they also are very interested in economic theory, such as socialism and communism, and more as a hobby, so he does show some respect towards them

Recent tweet from him clarifying his belief, since people don’t understand what a "conservative liberal being” means:
https://x.com/sonzaix/status/2050179552169881793

Is it also shocking that some mangaka are rightwing when Abe 2.0 won overwhelmingly? I don't even follow too many japanese creators on twitter but the ones I did follow had a positive outlook. Hell, Starfox guy literally draws Sanae Takaichi fanart, Mamoru Oshii getting giddy meeting her and more. The most shocking one to learn was that Shigesato Itoi supported LDP in 2018 and had a bunch of childish tweets dugup whining about the opposition parties and running cover for LDP. I still see plenty of big japanese leftist creators, so I'm not overly bothered. If you want something to blame for the shift, I blame business manga like Shima Kosaku or government initiatives like cool japan which pushed creators into relying on LDP for $$

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well known anime director speaking on this. he also went in on how he attended a large director meeting and all of them just spent their time making anti china comments


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