So you think you are a worthless NEET? Let's see what uncle Ted has to say:
>The people whose behavior is fairly well under the control of the system are those of the type that might be called “bourgeois.” But there are growing numbers of people who in one way or another are rebels against the system: welfare leeches, youth gangs, cultists, satanists, Nazis, radical environmentalists, militia-men, etc.NEETs are rebelling against the system! We are part of the rebellion! Ted is based!!!
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/fc-industrial-society-and-its-future>>5220fpbp
>>5219Kill yourself technophobe
>>5221Marx said about the lumpenproles, that they are useless and stupid.
Ted said about the lumpenproles, that they are rebels against the system.
Guess which side I'm choosing.
>>5221Marx said about the lumpenproles, that they are useless and stupid.
Ted said about the lumpenproles, that they are rebels against the system.
Guess which side I'm choosing.
>>5219/siberia/ - No relation to leftism
Sage and Report.
>>5231No this is for
>>>/dead/ not Siberia
>>5232Don't really care.
Average /dead/ user has probably at least eead Ted's work and related work, OP clearly hasn't.
Don't bump this shit retard.
>>5236Bait
>>5238Yes, aka cybersocialists vs pedo satanist neonazis of O9A and ITS nordic evropa posting christopagans
>>5243>people unironically thinking D-FENS is a good guyoh no baby… baby no…
seriously though people need to watch this movie
>>5227honestly the example of the headstone mason is kinda distressing but on the other hand machines could make head stones for at least a century but the business holds anyway
im sure theres always people who want hand made tombstones
>>5245Let’s analyze this meme:
The Virgin Anarcho-Primitivist
>Frail organic body<“I hate my own body”>Dies at age 40<“I have no survival skills, and don’t understand statistics”>Can’t get laid<*Projection>Confined to 1 shitty planet<“Hate the only world I’ve ever known, sure I’m an industrial urbanoid that’s never seen a forest, but I hate the only planet that supports life and wish I lived on a sterile rock!”>Gets diseases and feels pain<“Mfw I’m a coward”>Autistic ideas will never happen in reality<“t. Literal transhumanist”>Always loses to modern military technology in warfare <“Muh might makes right, white supremacist logic”>Pleasure limited by evolution-designed brain<“Liberal hedonist”>Consciousness destroyed after death<Cowardly fear of mortality >Uses terrorism to spread philosophy<More cowardice>IQ<Race science>Requires 99% of humans to die for it to work<t. Faggot shilling the ideology that has annihilated the biosphere that refuses to leave people alone to go live in the woods or somethingThe Chad Transhumanist
>Lives for millions of years<Bourgeois fantasy of immortality, greatest fear is death, anti-revolutionary attitude>Has interplanetary empire<Delusional settler fantasy about colonizing a bunch of dead rocks and committing genocide against space-injuns>Can easily exterminate organic humans<Incel murder fantasies>Feels the pleasure of 1 trllion shots of heroin a second<Needs drugs to feel happy>Can upload mind transfer faggot shit<Christian idealism>Can get laid any time in VR<Misogynist incel shit>Doesn’t know what pain and disease are<Western infantilization>Physically superhuman with genetic engineering and cybernetic enhancements<Literal eugenics>On the inevitable path of the human race<Liberal teleologyWow what a faggy meme definitely made by a urbanoid or suburbanoid blob that’s never seen a forest. Remember, FAGGOT, that it’s you industrioid teleoiod fags that are annihilating life. You won’t be cybogs, you’ll be desperate cannibals!
>>5257Why did you leave the most important piece of this meme out?
>always loses to modern military technologyIts a dead end ideology.
>>5258I didn’t, I pointed out it feeds back into Marxist eurocentrism and the belief MLs and liberals and fascists all share that the genocide and annihilation of indigenous peoples was based and red-pilled.
The greatest hero of techfags ought to be Christopher Columbus, after all, he started your faggot genocidal productivist mindset
>Dead end ideologyAnprim isn’t a christfag ideology like Liberalism, Marxism, or Fascism that actively needs to spread into the population
Anprims don’t want to make other people anprims, they want to be left alone and do eco-terrorism until industryfags leave their forest alone
>>5263You know, he is talking about left-liberalism aka woke ideology.
Even if you disagree with his take on leftism, you can't deny that 70% of the manifesto is good.
>>5265Regardless it's all schizo rightiod nonsense. Murdoc himself couldn't have written a more passionate anti-leftist wallop
Even getting to the primitivist stuff, it's all fairly incoherent
>>5266lumpenprole = welfare leeches = NEET = Hikikomori
Do you really expect people in the past centuries had the exact same terms like today??
>>5270>Regardless it's all schizo rightiod nonsense. Murdoc himself couldn't have written a more passionate anti-leftist wallop Eh. Its just boilerplate anti- University Campus idpol stuff, crude but wouldn't be so out of place in any of the more hard-core eco activism literature of that era. 90s America was not a place happening for the radical/organized left as everyone knows, it was practically dead and the radical and protest politics of the era reflect that.
And im not even american but You would think this would be a very basic and obvious way of understanding eco politics of thst era, materialist even, but no… people in general always come out with their weird theories or that Ted and etc were rightists and etc…
Over all the chapter is not very inspired or interesting even contextualy with the rest of the work, but a good tell about anyone who hyperfocuses on this irrelevant part of the manifesto. Usually rightists who don't even want to mention that Ted thought the right was a bunch of retards not worth engaging.
In general interesting figure that helps to visualise a specific era and current within burgerland society but not worth trying to retcon into any modern political movement or tendency.
Sage this shit tho.
>>5276<t. To braindead for a critical analysis >>5277Was thinking about becoming a sparky myself, getting older and can't be kango'ing and lugging bags of rubble back and forth forever.
Any tips? How viable to train into as an older person?
>>5281>Was thinking about becoming a sparky myself, getting older and can't be kango'ing and lugging bags of rubble back and forth forever. ur smart anon, sparkies is the way out. my uncle was similar; he was pretty much a professional football hooligan in his day, and when his joints grew too old for evryday fighting and fucking, in his late 20s (kek) he became a journeymen. the pay is good, but the work is difficult, you'll need sum brainz for wireing but u'll also need the brawn to be hauling 10kg wires on the daily.
>Any tips? How viable to train into as an older person?linkedin and indeed profiles, query "journeyman electrician". the usual qualifications only include high school graduation, or atleast a G.E.D. after 2 years of so, u usually have enough hours to apply for an electrician liscense, and u can start ur own business if ur into managing ur hours and schedule at ur whim. plus, what makes it different from other trades is all the equipment can fit in our van. can't quite say the same for lorry-fixers. cheers an best of luck.
p.s. here's a yt playlist for u or anyone else in thread, its a series of videos that educate on the basics of the job. no need to spend thousnads goin to trade school!!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNtCShGkh4tpD-OVfGjvR0RRbro89qTN1 Anarcho-primitivism is an idealistic non-starter of an idea. Trying to stop technological progress is like trying to end violence. It's going to keep happening so long as material conditions allow it. Even if you're not willing to participate in it, plenty of others will be.
>>5284Now this is the kind of high-quality discussion I come to Leftypol for!
>>5284Because clearly only capitalists were capable of 'developing technology'.
>>5264Spot on.
>>5287wut lol this is not true:
>>5220>>5221>>5223>>5226>>5228>>5237>>5241>>5243>>5263i got bored halfway thru. i think u get the point.
>>5294>They just pick from his ideology what suits them and that's it!Not like his stuff is anything but stupid ramblings instead of a coherent framework and analysis, lmfao.
>>5295Still a political group that is laughably irrelevant, same with libertarians and the sort.
>>5238His predictions are wrong and cliche
People yhink AI are gonna take over the world.
Its not. Humans are taking over the world with AI.
>>5279Theyre not rebels. Theyre actually low class patrons.
Theyre still benefitting from tech although not the same way as the "straightlaced"
>>5301>>5266You're being annoying about it but you are correct
>>5264Yes exactly.
Anyway Ted's Manifesto is interesting, I personally very much enjoy technology I think it's really cool the kind of information is available at the touch of a button. I think film is one of the greatest things to ever be invented, I'm glad infant mortality isn't like 50% anymore. So I'm not swayed. But anyone is perfectly welcome to live the Ted lifestyle right now. Like, go low tech, by all means. But endorsers of the manifesto don't seem to want that, they seem to be primarily interested in large plots of isolated property. They seem to hate "industrial civilization" in the sense of hating big cities with too many blacks.
>>5305I was told its called 'relationship anarchy' and its for the greater good of anti-imperialism.
I haven't read too much anarchist theory, but if it helps advance the struggle then its probably a good thing.
>>5295>>5294>Political labels are meaningless anyway and I don't care about his views on "leftism". And in the manifesto he actually points out, that it isn't about capitalism vs socialism (or left vs right), but nature vs technology. This is why I believe, that Kaczynski can't be located on the political spectrum. He is neither a leftist nor a rightist. Agreed. SO WHY DO YOU FREAKS MAKE MULTIPLE OPs ABOUT HIM HERE?>>1843041
>The future is now, old man. The new hip labels are Anti-Civ and Post-Civ.Kid. You're quite literally a decade and a half to late.
You're seeing a resurgence of leftist ideas and organized left is more appealing to young people than 90s-00s era anarchism.
Stop living in the past.
Stop clinging to the actions and aesthetics those of us alive then did and used as an ideology to identify as for entertainment online.
>>5315This amounts to 'because he said so'. And even if it does happen, it will be good. We are fucking weak and cannot expect to live longer and better without the aid of technology. Of course if you turn off your grandma's pacemaker she's going to die.
Also why hasn't anyone showed this part? Why is this thread still not on
>>>/dead/ while other Ted posts about him got buried there?
>>5320We are weak because vermin like you don't want us to live longer and drag us back.
If we want to be immortal we need to kill everyone who's against immortality - religious, conservative reactionaries who cling onto promises of an 'afterlife' instead of contributing to what life is in the present. We are weak because we are forced to be born and forced to die in a place where your will to live means nothing. Where the gradual extension of the lifespan by the development of humanity through its tools (which primitivists often attempt to differentiate from technology). We are weak right now because technology is not being used in our favor, it is not for us to control as neither are the means of production. It is being used to opiate people instead of liberate them. Any liberatory suggestion is met by skepticism by the forces of reaction. There are no demands to be made, no arguments to be made, I just want you to fucking die. It is the appropriate response in parralel with the communiques of ITS as following works as Desert and Blessed is the Flame. There is nothing to argue since we are diametrically opposed. The only way to solve the conflict of interest is that we need to destroy you. Which is inevitable, since retaliation against technology with less-sufficient means will always be crushed. Those who attempt to use technology to destroy it will always be outnumbered. Send a thousand bombs to institutes if you want, eventually you will meet other people who are retaliating against you. It won't just be cops. Although you tend to see yourselves as the ultimate contrarians to govt agencies, you're literal tools being used to destabilize places they don't wish to see develop. Why is ITS situated in Mexico? Why does their spokesman have his info in public despite the organization admitting to killing random hitchhikers? They joke about never having been caught despite news about their members being arrested and crying in court being readily avaible to read.
>>5324Make it fun then, bitch.
>>5323im gonna trust the retards who praise vibe-based incoherent ramblings on their understanding of what proper analysis entails
>>5324massive projection
>>5340I can post sections of nickland, and it would be around the same cult shit.
the anprims are retarded and not better, but that doesn't mean I cant find the same shit with the technophiles
>>5341Nick Land fans didin't go stabbing random hikers and sending bombs to universities and in public places.
To even put them as 'fans' would imply they are all the same, when most people are aware that he underwent a significant change in character after drug abuse going from being a Marxist scifi-ish writer to just another fascist reactionary. Whatever his following is after he began drug abuse is neither leftist nor interested in technology for the same reasons he is now in preaching extermination. Unlike the entirety of primitivist thought which has never shifted or changed its goals in excessive misanthrophy.
>>5342That is to say for all the current of 'accelerationist' neonazis, have nothing to do with the technophilia once seen in the works of the CCRU and everything to do with occultism, esotericism and the 'natural order'.
Land does not serve as the face of technology either. Just as Zerzan does not represent all of primitivism.
The question of the duality predates any authors, but it cannot be separated from the division of reactionaries versus progressives.
Comparing a guy who has rot his brain with drugs and whatever writings he may have produced after that with organizations of ecofascist pedophilies (which they themselves admit to proudly) seems a bit unfair. In fact they managed to do so much awful shit that Ted himself had to condemn them in an essay:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-ted-kaczynski-on-individualists-tending-towardNonetheless this is exactly the kind of people he inspired. This is all he amounts to. And it does not contribute to any sort of relevant constructive critique of civilization or ecological catastrophe, it proposes nothing grandiose and only has one outcome. The outcome is no different from dying to an ecological disaster, it would be for humanity to go extinct naturally after a long time of living in the woods. Those who want to live longer or better are simply told that its not viable and worthless trying.
>>5345>the only technology that will develop is more chatgptUnder capitalism.
>you're not getting immortalityNot the way things are headed now. The first people who may become immortal right now under capitalism would be the porkies themselves of course.
The problem is that even with the porkies gone, you will still be opposed to it.
>>5347Yet he didin't hold the same views he does now. What of his nihilism of the past did you gather exactly? Or the hatred of men who also happened to construct the nightmare he was describing as the concept of technocapital?
The grim reality of his writings called for his views before, which later turned way sinister than just a feeling of dread and hopelessness in society. For one they shifted towards psychopathic tendancies after he got brainwashed by Moldbug. Why exactly would have the rest of the CCRU even bothered to associate with him when they held rather optimist views in comparison? Are you implying he never underwent a change? That he was exactly as bad before as he is right now? If so then I guess you've never even bothered to read his works. Maybe you just rely on what others have told you about him.
>>5348>Are you implying he never underwent a change? That he was exactly as bad before as he is right now? If so then I guess you've never even bothered to read his works. Maybe you just rely on what others have told you about him.I've read him extensively, I was a landian in my youth. You're shadowboxing here. He went through a change, but he was never *not* a nihilist, and the CCRU wasn't some ideologically inclined progressive thinktank, it was a research unit dedicated to cybernetics and culture. That's why they associated, to study together. Them being "optimists" (they weren't, not even Fisher really) doesn't mean anything.
>For one they shifted towards psychopathic tendancies after he got brainwashed by Moldbug.None of Land's writings, before or after is psychopathic, he's just an apathetic nihilist.
>>5348>>5349Also
>The problem is that even with the porkies gone, you will still be opposed to it.I don't really give a shit whether immortality is invented or not. I heavily, heavily doubt it ever will be but if it did, sure whatever. You thinking about it this much is just nakedly being afraid of death though.
To which I need to say: there's nothing wrong with *dying.* People do it all the time.
>>5349>but he was never *not* a nihilistI would not imply otherwise, but you must understand yourself that nihilism has its variants and is not monolithic.
>Them being "optimists" Only wrote as rather, not implying any sort of commitment to it. It was a comparison.
>before or after is psychopathicAre you kidding? He's out of his mind right now. He talks about human extinction even on zoom lectures like its another monday and finds it fun.
>>5350>nakedly being afraid of death though.There is nothing to be ashamed of in it. Since at least it is something to strive to combat rather than an acceptance of in an act of defeatism. The latter is a reactionary view which is inherently hostile towards the idea of betterment. It is nihilist by character.
>there's nothing wrong with *dying.* People do it all the time.Yes, Ted is dead and he deserved it. Reactionary wrecking fucker. His fanboys should follow him.
>>5342>Whatever his following is after he began drug abuse is neither leftist nor interested in technology for the same reasons he is now in preaching extermination. Unlike the entirety of primitivist thought which has never shifted or changed its goals in excessive misanthrophy.They are still technophile groups. They may not be the original fans, but that doesn't change what they are
this still applies lol
<but that doesn't mean I cant find the same shit with the technophiles.>Nick Land fans didin't go stabbing random hikers and sending bombs to universities and in public places.true, but the schizo actions of those people doesn't fundamentally change what the "current" landians or landian influenced people believe in.
And you can even argue they arent engaging in the stabbing and bombing, because theres no point for them to do so Since, their beliefs are the whole technocapital WILL eventually exterminate humanity and replace it with whats arguably a techno dystopia/feudalist or whatever(from a certain pov).
Which in some ways its worse, since thats just we know this fucked up future will happen no matter what, and we will activetly support it aka dont do anything against it, and etc.
>Unlike the entirety of primitivist thought which has never shifted or changed its goals in excessive misanthrophy.I doubt that. I dont know if I can believe the entirity of primitivist thought was like that
>>5356>They are still technophile groups. You have technophile fascists, liberals, communists and anarchists and decide to group them as being the same. Still ignoring that Land is not even the face of technology lmao. Why didn't you respond to this
>>5344>their beliefs are the whole technocapital WILL eventually exterminate humanity and replace it with whats arguably a techno dystopia/feudalist or whateverAgain. The current Land is rooting for it. The early Land's message was mostly read from a Machiavellian perspective. It was a warning. Albeit his main influence was not in politics before Moldbug, but rather music and art. As Ray Brassier pointed out - "Nick Land has gone from arguing 'Politics is dead', 20 years ago, to this completely old-fashioned, standard reactionary stuff".
>I doubt that.You can't have primitivism without population culling. It's become banal to point it out. If Bookchin was alive he'd kill himself so he wouldin't have to read about their fantasies of recreating the Cannibal Holocaust movie. Even in the best case scenario of Kampuchean Neo-Fascistry they will be forcing people to die younger and destroying any potential for developing longevity.
>>5357>You have technophile fascists, liberals, communists and anarchists and decide to group them as being the same. Still ignoring that Land is not even the face of technology lmao. Why didn't you respond to this because your comment was the first I was typing a response too.
> Just as Zerzan does not represent all of primitivismAnd also looking at this, this makes our entire argument mute since, this guy is saying its unfair to generalize all technophiles and primitivists with certain people.
>You can't have primitivism without population culling. It's become banal to point it out. If Bookchin was alive he'd kill himself so he wouldin't have to read about their fantasies of recreating the Cannibal Holocaust movie. Even in the best case scenario of Kampuchean Neo-Fascistry they will be forcing people to die younger and destroying any potential for developing longevity.
hmm
>>5363but the thing is the reason why I responded the way I did was because you posted one group its. And then used that as an example of "are you sure its not the other way around".(if you are that person who posted that) So I posted a counter example which was landianism. And then you went and defended the landians, and then said the modern ones arent like the previous technophile ones.
So it looked like from my perspective that you were using this one group to demonize the entire primitivist movement, so I responded in kind
you later clarified with this(if you are this person)
"You can't have primitivism without population culling. It's become banal to point it out. If Bookchin was alive he'd kill himself so he wouldin't have to read about their fantasies of recreating the Cannibal Holocaust movie. Even in the best case scenario of Kampuchean Neo-Fascistry they will be forcing people to die younger and destroying any potential for developing longevity."
which is a fair argument that I need to think about.
But before that it looked like you were doing the whole using one group or etc to damn an entire movement of seperate factions beliefs or etc So i responded back accordingly.
>>5366>one group its>that you were using this one group to demonize the entire primitivist movement,ITS is not quite a 'group' it is a label like ISIS, ALF, ELF, Antifa and so on…
ITS encompasses the violence carried out in the name of primitivism under the name of ITS or Wild Reaction. Read Atlassa or the summary
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/edelweiss-pirates-of-indiscriminate-attacks-wild-reactionsITS is examplary of the kind of actions that primitivists are taking and would need to take to actualize their vision.
> it looked like you were doing the whole using one group or etc to damn an entire movement of seperate factions beliefsITS are seperate factions. Did you read the screenshots?
>>5340O9A are seperate factions (nexions) too, but it doesn't change the fact that they're all created around Neo-Nazi pedo satanism. ITS are all violent primitivists and there can be no pacifist primitivists either.
>>5367>Atlassa Atassa*
You can also read the Green Anarchy magazine from the UK and see that this kind of behaviour is not limited to ITS. Anprims long before ITS existed had similar feelings as was examplified in the the magazine where they openly praised cults like Aum Shinrikyo for carrying out attacks against civilization. They were condemned by nearly all other anarchists at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Anarchisthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hunt_(editor)https://web.archive.org/web/20070927125737/http://autonomous.org.uk/ace/aceonga.htmhttps://www.counterinfo.org.uk/ga.htmhttps://www.stewarthomesociety.org/ga/ >>5367>ITS is not quite a 'group' it is a label like ISIS, ALF, ELF, Antifa and so on… Yeah but following the isis example, large muslims do not follow the label isis. And reject it.
And also I read the screenshots. And while it looks like a group of seperate beliefs. Its still a "network" of people that have some connecting beliefs. A identification and its meanings which can be accepted or rejected. And well looking at one of the images
Q how big is ITS?
<BIgger than a single group, SMALLER THAN A ARMYThis doesn't exactly seem like a big or popular group. Nor are there any other details mentioning how big this actually is. So I cant really tell if this is actually a popular large group among anprims
>https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/edelweiss-pirates-of-indiscriminate-attacks-wild-reactionsI will read this.
>You can also read the Green Anarchy magazine from the UK and see that this kind of behaviour is not limited to ITS. Anprims long before ITS existed had similar feelings as was examplified in the the magazine where they openly praised cults like Aum Shinrikyo for carrying out attacks against civilization. They were condemned by nearly all other anarchists at the time.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Anarchisthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hunt_(editor)https://web.archive.org/web/20070927125737/http://autonomous.org.uk/ace/aceonga.htmhttps://www.counterinfo.org.uk/ga.htmhttps://www.stewarthomesociety.org/ga/I will also read this. And see if you are right
>>5381There are worse hobbies.
What if capitalist hegemon starts anti-terrorist operation in your shitty forest? Are you going to fight them with sticks or where do you draw the line on technology?
>>5393How technology is utilized socially is absolutely guided by ideology.
>>5397The "system" is guided by the accumulation of surplus value. Lenin's endorsement of a state machine was less an endorsement and more of the historical inheritance of what already existed in the Russia Empire.
>as soon as brain implants etcDo these serve to reduce the intensity of work by increasing productivity? What is the social utility provided? You greatly overestimate what drives technological application in capitalism. Just because some silicon valley mavericks and Muskrat fantasize a cyperpunk dystopia, doesn't mean they will get it. Why is a brain chip needed when social control today is entirely autonomous already?
>>5324I like nature and technology.
I like immortality only if God gives me superpowers.
>>5410>I like immortality only if God gives me superpowers.Never will happen. This is why religion opiates. It promises immortality in heaven while it neglects life on earth.
How is this dogshit thread still up and getting bumped while every other TedK thread got sent to
>>>/dead/ ?
>>5412How come these get sent to
>>>/dead/ while this one stays up to shit up the main board for weeks? What's the difference mods? This entire thread is "technology bad", what the fuck does it have to do with leftism? It's not even a critique of anything precisely, its not a critique of how technology is being used against people right now, it just puts an ultimatum and then goes "yeah but subjectively life would be better this way". The only people cheering it on are literal LARPs who have been playing Rust on their computers and watching memes about primitive life. It is purely reactionary. The majority of people posting Ted memes are the same motherfuckers with black sun profile pics on their socials commenting about "muh tradition, muh heritage, evropa" and its futile to pretend otherwise.
This thread is proving it: Marxists fear Ted Kaczynski. The reason is simple. Kaczynski's theory is a direct attack on the core belief of marxism, the idea that economic growth and technological progress is good. In his main text, "Industrial society and its future", Kaczynski is delivering a concise and easy to understand analysis of the role of technology in human existence. In short, Kaczynski's theory can be boiled down to: Technological progress is undermining human autonomy. Although Marxists do recognize, that technology is undermining human autonomy (under capitalism), but they believe it has political reasons and therefore this issue must be resolved by changing the political system. But even when capitalism should be abolished and global communism achieved, marxists view the enslavement of humanity through the machine as positive. Marxists believe, that Sludge Content on TikTok is a progressive force, because it is a necessary step to achieve communism. Many Marxists believe, that being a mindless consoomer drone is actually the good life and they justify it with this quote by Marx: "The less you eat, drink, buy books, go to the theatre, go dancing, go drinking (…) The less you are."
In short, the principled and true communist is a docile consoomer. Since most people on leftypol are communists/consoomers, it is no surprise that they hate Kaczynski.
>>5422That is right, just like bureaucracy
"The bureaucracy is a circle from which no one can escape. Its hierarchy is a hierarchy of knowledge."
And
"Technology discloses man's mode of dealing with Nature, the process of production by which he sustains his life, and thereby also lays bare the mode of formation of his social relations, and of the mental conceptions that flow from them."
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