it brings me no pleasure to announce this, but it's peak. the furry twink has done it again. total tumblr teen victory. i can't sleep at night and my life is irrevocably changed.
101 posts and 28 image replies omitted.>>45536at first glance this seems suprisingly fair. However, I still want to smash your head in with a block for disrespecting my noelle
>>45527youd have to be such a fandom-brained retard to think the knight is anyone but dess lol
>>45484toby fox took the few good aspects of homosuck and the lips man and discarded all the garbage, especially the tvtropes addict nonsense
>>45536You don't understand what makes good writing, fundamentally.
>b-but I wrote an essay! that makes me right! >>45536>>45542yup this is exactly what i mean by tvtropes addict nonsense, your post is like a text version of ur average youtube video analysis
reminds me of people complaining about the possibility of dess being a plot device. well, whats wrong with that, narratively? morons who only
read consume fanfiction slop want everything to be le epic subversion these days
plus writing isnt all there is to a fucking video game so not only do you not understand writing you dont understand games either
>decided to post that summary in the 4chan doe general
<no one seems to disagree with it so far and some even support it
<meanwhile some anons here are hostile against it
nta but hmmmm
>>45544>why do people with an actual brain disagree with me, the midwits from not just 4chan, but some shitty general from the furry porn board agree with me!!!!fandom-brained retard status: confirmed, lmfao
>>45545>he assumes im that anon>he ignores that i posted this in the noelle general where people are obssesed with her. And thus would even irrationally defend herhmm hmmm hmmmm
>>45541You're literally proving my point
Dess Knight has a dozen different plot holes and contradictions (i.e. no means or motive, how the hell would a teenager know how to free a Titan, the Organikks straight up calling the Knight a man, the lyrics of Big Shot and Raise Up Your Bat putting Dess and the Knight at odds, no one seeing Dess leave the Library during Chapter 2, how Dess and the Knight are in two places at once multiple times, why the Knight would endanger Noelle, etc.), but instead of actually addressing these issues you just shit on everyone who calls this out or doesn't like the story it would tell. You're going to learn the same lesson about hubris that the Kris Knighters had to, I guarantee it.
>>45542Couldn't come up with a response? Sad!
>>45540Fair enough. You're welcome to enjoy the character, I personally just don't like her very much outside the Weird Route.
>>45550you know, the fact that the noelle fags on doe seem to agree with you is, quite interesting
>>45550Post chains like this remind me why I only rarely visit /leftypol/ nowadays.
Do you base your world view on the latest news post you saw too? Also, by the logic in the cap Susie is an equal candidate (she was just pretending in the church bro).
You're also so close to a realization with how Noelle is treated by the narrative. Dig a little deeper.
>>45563welcome to fandoms everyone is an illiterate perpetual 12 year old
>>42902It's a good thing Toby Fox is good at making catchy music because he sure is a bad writer. His ability to achieve maximum density of charming nonsense is undeniable, but basically everything beyond that is either banal, confused, or self-defeating. Especially apparent with the critique of "perverse sentimentality" (with completionism and repetition as symptoms) that it conflates with the incoherent "the characters will be upset" angle, that Undertale tries to develop and so shoots itself in the foot.
Not that I'm looking for something crazy deep from that game or Deltarune obviously but I just don't think he understands the motivation structure behind player action and emotional investment in fiction. Which is a problem because that's basically what it's all about.
>>45739Could you please elaborate,there's just too much >implying being done for me to get it
>>45739I don't think there's confusion. It's a fixation on the technicalities that was adopted from Homestuck/Hussie. It is shallow though, but hey, in the land of the blind the man with one eye is king.
I disagree with your reading of the story as a critique of sentimentality (any). You're overestimating the depth of the motivations behind the narration. It's way more shallow: the sentimentality is sincere and the ultimate goal is Christian moralism.
>>45570Anyone should get the opportunity to speak their truth. Unfortunately on imageboards that roads tends to lead towards puerility.
>>45388this was the most progressive thing you could say on the internet in 2009
>>45388idek how people find it confusing for toby fox to still be friends with hussie and omocat, hes clearly just like them lol
>>45858My favourite is when people try to shoehorn Toby into the nihilist category.
Maybe burgerpeople have been broken by the constant barrage of evangelism and fundamentalism. Any Christian who appears as anything but a monster is assumed to be something else.
On topic: we'll see where the story and its meanings go. The presence of light of life and flood arc motifs was disappointing, but maybe he'll do something interesting with these Biblical quotes in the coming chapters.
deltarune is a subversion of christianity
>>45868>playing themes straight is subversion, actuallydo not learn analysis from tvtropes
>>45563>Do you base your world view on the latest news post you saw too?what in the ad hominem
>Also, by the logic in the cap Susie is an equal candidateDo…do you think I'm arguing for Kris Knight? After I explicitly used it as an example of a debunked theory that people were overconfident in? Or do you think the tweet is post-3&4 (it's not, though the author of the tweet is in fact still a Kris Knighter)?
>You're also so close to a realization with how Noelle is treated by the narrative. Dig a little deeper.If you think there's some merit in how Noelle is written, just say it instead of implying it's obvious. This is the exact kind of smug attitude that's making the fandom insufferable right now and it needed to die yesterday.
>>45986Condescending tone is not an ad hominem (neither are insults for that matter). That claim coming from you is rich, considering you fully engaged in "ad hominem" by your own standard.
Furthermore, alleging smugness rings hollow as you turn your nose up at divergent interpretation and then tarry with a broad brush. Practice skepticism of the useful kind, as was my point before.
I said YOU were close (special), not that it was obvious (general).
>just say itWhy? What's stopping you from digging into the text?
>>46011 (nta)
ad hominem post
>>46011 (not him btw)
ironically,this is an ad hominem
inb4 what part :
"alleging smugness rings hollow as you turn your nose up at divergent interpretation and then tarry with a broad brush" is just an attack on his character and motivation,instead of at least thinking he's saying it in good faith
>What's stopping you from digging into the text?5/10 ragebait
lol ofc the deltarune thread would be illiterate morons who dont know what fallacies even consist of
< Ad hominem refers to a type of argument that attacks a person's character or attributes instead of addressing the argument itself, while an insult is simply a derogatory remark about someone.
>>46020if you try to bolster an argument with an insult,it becomes an ad hominem,if you disagree,tell me exactly what differentiate insults and attack of character according to you
also saying "that claim coming from you is rich,considering you do the same" is a typical tu quoque fallacy,but I ignore that one since it's just shitflinging about who is more deserving of contempt.
its gonna be a fucking omori twist isnt it. kris caused dess to dissapear by accident
>>46088not the first time toby fox played a part in some mainstream slop, he voiced an extra in that baby bears cartoon
>>46088WOODY THEORY IS ALIVE
>>46020Reading comprehension so low they skip over "instead"…
yup convinced glown is a rage baiter
>>46110havent bothered reading the actual deltarune discussion itt but outside of that you people are actually retarded and illiterate so (what else can you expect from gamers really). you dont even know what a fallacy is and then misread a simple definition of it too like cmon LOL
yup hes a ragebaiter
>>45818>the ultimate goal is Christian moralism.Are Susie and Noelle gonna see the light and repenet from their sinful lesbian urges? Also where do people go for insane Deltarune discourse? Twitter? Bluesky? I feel like a boomer we used to do this on game forums.
sorry but toby fox peaked at the sans fight and hasnt made anything better since, i get he's trying to do a whole opposite thing with the whole "your choices dont matter" schtick but i just feel like that isn't explored very well at all
maybe he should have made kris and susie communists if he wanted to make them miserable about not being able to meaningfully affect anything of importance
idk my issue is that i get undertale, i understand what it's about, and i think it does it pretty well, but i really dont get deltarune, what is it even trying to say? that toby fox writes lame lesbians?
>>46206deltarune hasn't even reached the midway point,no wonder the "morality" of the work isn't that clear cut,it's a video game first
You all have been trying to figure it out for @150 posts so far… I couldnt get past the character builder rape screen…
Can you right/write a synopsis? Some kind of summary or any clue that would help me believe that it happened maybe? I really didnt think that kind of thing had a market, I hoped even.
According to Chinese poster anyone will buy this product. "I.e. any moron will show up and buy this game." I think it was meant to be an mmorpg of epic proportions that became a cash grab, the sake of selling its title name
>>46235Kris, Noelle and Toriel are futas
Susie and Dess are a muscle dom
Ralsei and Asriel are femboys
>>46239I'm pretty sure I already saw one hentai artist do exactly that, it's the best interpretation
>>46126If by "insane" you mean "annoying and insufferable beyond measure," Reddit and Twitter have got you covered.
Just type "obvious" and you'll get a treasure trove of absolutely abysmal takes going all the way back to Chapter 1.
>>46441the whole saga has been so fucking funny and it culminated with vinny vinesauce releasing an undertale compilation video with spanish subtitles.
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