No.36343
>>34900Omniman is ridiculously overpowered, but let's be honest Invincible is pretty bad compared with The Boys.
Also I get the feeling that they nerfed Homelander in the show compared to the comics.
No.36344
>>36343>Also I get the feeling that they nerfed Homelander in the show compared to the comics.Powerscaling these kinds of shows never actually makes any sense. "Who would win" is only really interesting if you are trying to come up with a story.
No.36347
>>36343i like invincible but only if you read it as "what if saiyans were featured in western comics" and not as "superman but LE BAD" which makes the characterization of omniman a bit more compelling
No.37094
anybody watching gen v? i like it so far
No.37101
>>36347They should have just made a series about Irredeemable instead
But I just looked that up and apparently Invincible came first, so, eh, never mind I guess
No.37102
>>37094It's better than I expected it to be, but they already announced s2 is in production and I'm fully expecting the season finale to just be a reset to the status quo where nothing substantial happens.
No.37410
The finale of Gen V wasn't bad at all, and it wasn't a reset. Better than the usual finale of The Boys that usually fails to tie things together. They are doing their own thing while still making enough references to the main show to keep fans interested.
I haven't heard anyone of those young actors before but they are really talented. Cate might be one of the coolest young villains I've seen in capeshit in a while (well The Boys is more of a satire of it).
No.37411
>>37410Also, it's often hard for mainstream productions to find the right mix between humour, gore and story - for example, Deadpool fails miserably regarding this. Gen V does a good job here.
No.37413
>>36343The ending of Invincible really feels like the MC started some sort of space UN bullshit lol
No.37415
>>37413iirc he's destined to become god emperor of the universe, so this is just his young libcuck phase
No.37416
>>37415God I hate superhero comics.
No.37440
>>37410I wasn't expecting much so I was pretty surprised how the finale turned out. Hopefully s2 doesn't end up floundering.
>>37413When it was revealed
he and nolan had royal blood or whatever I was just tapped out of the comic at that point.
No.37442
I was watching some of the new Invincible the other night, the episode where the dimension hopping smartman made a big machine to concentrate all his other selves into his own mind. I have some questions. Maybe they answered some in the show, but I was high so I might have missed them.
1. The secret government agency oversees teenage superheroes. Why? Why do people think this is okay?
2. The secret government agency sends an unstable teenager to investigate an energy surge? I guess in this world the likelihood is that its super science fuckery but why aren't the cops handling this shit.
3. The unstable teenager bursts right into a situation where he has no idea what's going on or why, and even though he nor anyone else seems to be in any immediate danger he starts a fight with two people for no other reason than he's in a bad mood. This results in thousands of deaths. Why wasn't literally anyone else put in charge of this?
4. Brain guy doesn't want "his utopia built on blood" and stops the procedure for no reason, directly causing thousands of deaths instead of just one which might have happened if he'd just done nothing. If he's so smart then what the fuck is that all about, especially when he had the power to just send all the blue guys away instead of just letting them beat Invincible to death.
5. How does anyone think that a massive explosion and hundreds of deaths, hundreds of millions of dollars in property damage, and the destruction of all that other dimensional technology, the culprits, and any evidence of what was happening is an acceptable solution to the problem?
No.37447
>>37442>why aren't the cops handling this shit.To busy busting some union or killing some black guy is my guess
No.37448
>>37442>4. Brain guy doesn't want "his utopia built on blood" and stops the procedure for no reason, directly causing thousands of deaths instead of just one which might have happened if he'd just done nothing. If he's so smart then what the fuck is that all about, especially when he had the power to just send all the blue guys away instead of just letting them beat Invincible to death.Yeah, that was incredibly stupid, especially since he can do his portal shit to avoid unwanted attention by just putting the machine in some uninhabited dimension. There was zero reasons for it to happen in the first place.
No.37449
>>37442>he starts a fight with two people for no other reason than he's in a bad mood. This results in thousands of deaths. Why wasn't literally anyone else put in charge of this?Actually that is not true. He followed the Cecil order to stop it. He even asked what to do first.
No.37450
>>37449I remember him talking to cecil, but did cecil tell him specifically to go in there, start a fight, and smash everything up, because I thought he went in, told them he was there to stop them, they were like "make us," and he was like "I was hoping you'd say that" because he's all pissed off about his dad going to get space groceries.
No.37456
binged gen v a bit
kind of put off by the generic school young-folks-figuring-themselves-out angle, it's just tired as fuck with all of the usual cliches
No.37457
>>37415>>37440Oh shit I had completely forgotten about that. Invincible has very strong 2000s liberal vibes.
No.37459
>>37450More or less. Besides he had contact with Cecil all that time and he never told him to stop. So i imagine he was all for it. Which at least maks sense, after all being extremely paranoid is his job description and when you see shit like that, with two dangerous criminals who are also technical geniuses, you start to think "doomsday device" so it's safer to just dispose of that than to start asking questions and miss the opportunity. After the murder of their version of avengers/justice league and betrayal of omniman i imagine his mistrust and paranoia are off the charts. So i at least understand where they are coming from. The brainman on the other hand was absolutely fucking moronic.
No.37460
>>37457It really does. Mostly it's a teenage drama tho.
No.37487
>>37459>superhero doing illegal as shit work for a secret unaccountable government entityhey wait a minute
>Publication dateJanuary 2003Yeah, I thought so.
No.37501
>>37456The way I get it is that they were making fun of those cliches by contrasting it with gore.
>young people figuring themselves out You mean like becoming a genocidal mass murderer like Cate? That's a bit away from the norm.
I think it's fun and I will stand by it. Sometimes it's better than The Boys.
No.37502
>>37440>Hopefully s2 doesn't end up floundering. After all the show is kinda dependent on The Boys so it sort of comes down to whether they fuck it up in season four. I hope they don't take anymore Temp-V, it makes Butcher OP and takes away the fun from the superheroes vs underdogs theme. It was fun for one season but if the Boys can easily overpower every superhero except Homelander, then what's the point of the show. They already fucked up with A-Train and The Deep by the end of season three with their storylines culminating into… nothing? And why would it be anything different, they are completely useless now. At least in season two The Deep beached a whale.
Also, Cate and Sam will be in the Seven in season four, won't they?
No.37506
>>37501How is it making fun of cliches by contrasting it with gore? The mass murder stuff also plays into school shooting paranoia which some teen dramas have also done. The superhero stuff in this is just an add-on tbh.
No.37527
I can't handle the time investment of a TV show, but my friend mentioned to me that the villains are apparently Patagonia wearing SV bourgeoisie, which I like
No.37875
im reading the comics and theyre even worse than the show lol
billy butcher is even more of le epic cool guy, and literally walks into raynor's office and fucks her in the first issue
hughie is even more of a loser nerd with no real reason for his role in the story
No.37876
>>37875>hughie is even more of a loser nerd with no real reason for his role in the storywait for it
No.37881
>>37875oh yeah and it trivializes the war on terror and stuff like gitmo while moralizing within this basically fairy tale
No.38777
>>10810the only capeshit thing i've seen that looks remotely decent, and even then it looks kind of mid
No.38794
>>38775>Ennis or the comic, they ironically do a much better job on consistent character work They are cardboard characters, that's why they are "consistent". Honestly saying that the comics had better character development is laughable. The characters in the show are way more developed, how can this even be debatable. Homelander alone, but also Maeve, Starlight, Butcher. Deep and A-Train practically don't have speaking roles in the comics.
You complain about plot holes, which is fine, but this a satire show right? And for that their writing is pretty gripping. Like, if you dislike the jokes, the story is still overall not a bad one.
I also liked that The Boys didn't have power from the beginning. It creates a much more interesting dynamic, instead the Boys being stronger than anybody except Homelander and beating everybody up, there are underdogs as normal humans having to try ingenious and creative ways to stand a chance against superhumans, with like blackmail and exploiting weaknesses.
I liked season 2 and 3 as well, except for the last episode which was shit. And season 4 looks as well.
>spin offs Yeah but the Gen V spin-off actually worked and did it's own thing by still making references to the main show.
>only successful streaming show on Amazon You can not be serious about that. It prolly blew up the most, that come on.
No.38799
>>38777>777Checked and based take
No.40197
Just caught up with it, and I liked it, though season 3 was a drop in quality.
Whole season is getting a weapon to killing Homelander, they find him, and at the end neither him or Homelander die – almost nothing really changed except stuff in the beginning of the season and a few stuff in it.
Overall: nothing beats yugioh gx in super hero shows.
Except in length, The Boys atleast doesn't over stay it's welcome, (but still fuck the 1h episode format).
>>38777It's much better than you think it is.
Super hero media, like horror movies, just make me dredge to watch them since of how underwhelming they can be – but this one was better than I thought.
>>38775>>38794Is the comic good?
People say it sucks because it's just a anti-hero wank fest, which makes it interesting in the sense of calibrating a comparison scale for shows that critique their genra.
>>30964Shout out to this anon who was the only person to post in this thread in 2022, only to just say, "No horny".
A shame this board is so dead.
No.40200
>>40197>Whole season is getting a weapon to killing Homelander, they find him, and at the end neither him or Homelander die – almost nothing really changedIt was just the finale that sucked, also A-Train's and The Deep's storylines were nowhere. Rest of the season is as good as the other ones.
The reset they did at the end of season two and three is annoying but else can they write this when it's a show based of excessive stimulation and everyone knows Homelander or Butcher can't die before the end of the show - which goes for five seasons as stated by the producers. Next seen is about the election, just in time for the real one, let's see where they are going with this. So far the social commentary has been up to date and isn't afraid to throw heavy punches against rightoids and libshits just the same.
>comics It's more crass, it also shits on corporations and celebrity but in a more vulgar way. I prefer the show.
No.40201
>>40197>it's just a anti-hero wank festAnd that is what makes it BASED.
No.40202
>>40200>It's more crassIT'S GRIMDARK, ANON, YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND!!
>>10814To rightoids leftism is "when SJWs" so saying that rightoids think The Boys makes fun of "leftism" is fundamentally misunderstanding the level of their political ignorance.
No.40276
>>40200They could've at least committed to more changes.
Like how the fuck did Mave survive? Soldier boy was pushing it, but mave got blown up.
I was enjoying season 3,(until half way in which I was kinda getting bored), but the ending sucking just hurts the season in retrospect, (at least for me).
(Also, I didn't know it was going for 5 seasons, so that's nice, especially with following up on the commentary).
No.40277
>>40201>>40202Maybe when I go through vagabond I'll check it out.
I don't think I'll prefer it to the show, but it'll be a nice source of inspiration for anti-hero hate.
No.40401
Just started watching. It's already made pretty clear how it is merging satire of superheros in art/culture and cops, and the Vought International presentation/speech is making me sick in that way an effective critique should. It feels like an Ancapistan private security force wet dream.
I'm not going to pretend the premise, the concept of superheros as powerful corrupt figures or copaganda is novel in itself, but they're exploring it well and that's good to see. And of course, modern high production eye candy and sugar is fun.
No.40410
How the hell did they manage to get Assad to act the landlord?
No.40527
How did they manage to copy Captain Jack Sparrow in something so gritty?
No.40682
/co/ 2006-2018
>wow Totally Spies is just an excuse for writers inserting all their fetishes
/co/ 2019-present
>wow The Boys is just an excuse for writers inserting all their fetishes
No.40683
>>40682I mean are they necessarily wrong? /co/ may be full of idiots, but that is one thing they got right.
>>40527 >>40410 ???
No.40692
>>40683How was it possible to cast AOC as an actor in a superhero film?
No.40693
>>40683That's also one thing /co/mrades never said. I made it the fuck up. It's a literary technique often called 'humour'.
No.40700
>>40693Actually /co/ has said both things, it's like the oldest joke on the board, pic rel.
>>40692 LOL
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