No.25109
>>25106he also worked for a mysterious secret society of british industrialists and their former russian aristocrat friends and did some killings on their behalf
No.25110
>>25108>dropped it halfway through the season with the italian vendetta guy because it just became a really long shitty action movieYeah true. And also just killing characters just to be dramatic.
>only his sister was based and she was treated like shit like every other female character in itAt least she stayed based and they didn't have a corruption arc for her if I recall. Killing her hubbie was the first shitty death they did. I heard it had something to do with scheduling conflicts.
That reminded me of how dumb Michael was all that season. They just started shit for no reason and with no plan and then they just get fucked. Seems like he was acting retarded on purpose.
No.25120
>>25037no archetypes, literally just like the entire cast is members of a family, all of their interactions are centered around the fact that they're in a family
>>25038nope, there's a certain type of person that just stays home all day and only has their family to interact with and i think that's who this stuff is for
No.25131
>>25120like the patridge family or that archie show? yeah, idk
back then in the 60s they were all pushing the narative hard, muh american family values and ree communism
thankfully it's dead now
No.25132
>>25108>only his sister was based and she was treated like shit like every other female character in itis his sister also commie or??
>>25106>>Sells out his sisters commie husband>>Cucks out to anglo feds to crack down the IRA, kills one of the IRAs chief opperatives>>Becomes a rotten and corrupt labour MP>>Buddies up with Mosely>>Literally says "you end up at le same point if you go too far left or right and I'm just a man in the middle">>Only turns on Mosely because he personally fucked him overno wonder the reddit, cringe centrist crowd loves it
is it still worth watching for cinematography and other stuff?
also can someone post the commie meme about this scene? i love it and can't find it
No.25133
>>24929He took off his helmet
No.25134
>>25133THEY CIRCUMSICED MASTERCHIEF ON SCREEN?
No.25135
>>25101>plot line where the main guy becomes a socialist politicianwhich character are you talking abou btw?
is it the dead communist guy's kid?
No.25136
>>25135Arthur becomes a Labour MP
No.25138
>>25136*after he helps the government arrest communists*
No.25143
>>24926>>25041Master Chief, and all the other Spartans, are chemically sterilised and removed of sexual impulses as children by the UNSC's evil child soldier training programme, this is stated clearly in the books.
Of course, they can just run roughshod over the books if they really want to, but it's pretty lame that they have done so just so they can have generic 'lmao he fucks' type shit. IMO it's more interesting to have him be a horribly abused psychopath.
No.25144
>>25132As I said, its Boardwalk meets Breaking Bad. Take the grim early 20th century mafia setting from the first one and stick it together with the MC being a marry sue edgy powertriping fantasy of BB. I think the first seasons with the IRA were better, but the last one had me in stiches when it decided to pull one of the most cliche "insert sad and tragic big character moment here" tropes which would be well worthy of the finest Turkish soap.
No.25146
>>25138He tries to kill Mosley at least.
No.25147
>>25146his plot is so stupid and you can see the assassination attempt failing from fucking space
No.25148
>>25147Well, it is like putting the titanic in a story, we know how it is going to end.
No.25149
>>25144> pull one of the most cliche "insert sad and tragic big character moment here" tropes which would be well worthy of the finest Turkish soapwhat is it? cmon don't leave us hangin'
No.25150
>>25136From what I've heard recently, labour is basically just the other lib party
Green is where it's at
No.25151
>>25143Halo is based on books? lol
Based Chief overcoming the plot and books to lay down some pipe
No.25154
>>25143>Master Chief, and all the other Spartans, are chemically sterilised and removed of sexual impulses as children by the UNSC's evil child soldier training programme, this is stated clearly in the books.Game, book, and show canon are separate. Bungie deliberately did this with Reach by contradicting the book version of those events as much as possible, but yes sexuality is affected by the augmentations. You are overstating the effects, however, because several Spartans are shown to have sex drive and sexual orientation, including at least one who has had a kid IIRC.
This also varies depending on which Spartan program we're talking about. Some have more extensive augmentations than others, if we want to get pedantic. None of them are castrated, chemically or otherwise, as far as I'm aware, but some of the hormonal treatments do partially suppress their sex drive to a degree. That doesn't change the underlying sexuality that somebody has, and as a counterexample to Master Chief (a Spartan-II), fan favorite
Sergeant Johnson (a Spartan-I) clearly fucks, even getting a sex scene in one of the books. Nobody was bothered by that because it fit the character.
>Of course, they can just run roughshod over the books if they really want to, but it's pretty lame that they have done so just so they can have generic 'lmao he fucks' type shit. IMO it's more interesting to have him be a horribly abused psychopath.I agree but the thing is they could have done basically the same storyline for MC but with some other Spartan. There were lots of them. The kind of characterization that works for a quasi-blank-slate FPS protagonist is very different from what works for a TV show protagonist. I think they actually do show another character running away, which is from the books. Why not follow that guy? You have the whole setting to work with, so why put the same characters in focus? They're clearly trying to tell a different kind of story and appeal to people who aren't already interested in the franchise. It would make a lot more sense to have Master Chief, Cortana, etc appear in the show occasionally as background characters to establish a connection to the world and flesh things out. That would also serve as an advertisement for the rest of the franchise - "If you want to see their story, go play these games or read these books." Seems like stupid decisions happening at the production level. If you adapt the story but change the fundamentals of the major characters, it just feels like fanfiction and creates schisms between people who know/like the different versions. Then again, they have the Prophets cooperating with a human who in the games the Covenant would regard as a
literal demon, so it's obvious they don't care about writing.
They also obviously just don't give a fuck in general tbh. In the first episode with the fight against the elites, you see the rebels using two gatling guns when the aliens first get there, having no effect but then as soon as Master Chief picks one up, suddenly it chews through a bunch of them in no time. And then there's all the bad/unfinished CGI like the unpainted plasma pistol (which is the focal point of the shot with that error) or the fact that you repeatedly see the MC actor awkwardly covering the display on his assault rifle so they won't have to render the ammo readout in post-production. They just don't care lol. The fact that a clearly half-assed show is being politicized because "gamers" shows how happy people are to gobble up whatever some "entertainment news" rag shits out.
>>25151>Halo is based on books? lolNo, there were several novels made as "expanded universe" type material. Not that uncommon. How much they relate to the game is debatable, with Bungie clearly wanting to distance themselves and actively trying to retcon the books.
>>25144>a marry sue edgy powertriping fantasy of BBHow is Walter White a Mary Sue? He's a massive retard who succeeds mainly through people underestimating him for being a nerd or being unwilling to kill him because they need his chemistry skills.
He certainly thinks of himself that way, but he is making dumb mistakes from start to finish, and this is explicitly discussed by other characters.
No.25155
Anyone else think Wonder Showzen (and PFFR in general) is kinda weird politically? Kinda feels like their response to neoconservative hegemony was to go "haha illiterate poor people" conveniently ignoring the fact that the core demographic of neoconservatism was/is well-educated upper middle class types just like them.
No.25156
>>25154>or being unwilling to kill him because they need his chemistry skillshis "chemistry skills" amount to shit any teenager with a shed lab and access to common industrial chemicals could prepare
No.25159
>>25149Its a double cliche. First his little daughter dies from TB randomly and for no real reason (appart from drama points, of course), then he gets "you only got 1 year to live begauze ganser XDD" prognosis, which turns out to be manufactured by that wascally Mosely and this is all just so we could have a montage of him getting ready to kill himself after destroying all his swag before divine providance shows him the truth and we get a "tune in next season" hook. Also all of this happens at lightning speed over like 3 episodes.
No.25163
>>25159that's so stupid
so like convince somebody they have cancer in hopes they kill themselves? lol
stupid af writing
No.25164
>>25154Nobody gets dicked over harder than those people who make novelizations of movies and shows
They just get retconned and nobody remembers these books
Sad
No.25166
Gonna start watching Daredevil
They just announced the writers for the new D+ series on Variety
What is the chronological saga for all the netflix shows?
No.25169
>>25168spooky. maybe it's a hidden message the /leftyschizo/s can decipher
No.25170
>>25169it's just shitty cinematography
he does get spooked in this scene though
No.25171
>>25170wow he's literally me
No.25175
>>25106>And the final ingrediant is the reddit-ID, aka like Breaking Bad, where its clear that the show is trying to make its pissfuck asshole main character into super epic figure so that the redditors could go "yeah, if I just threw off societies chains, I'd be so like him!"yeah, he just comes across as some kind of like socialite with a gun. only characters that actually come across as mobsters are alfie and arthur and billy kimber and jimmy mccavern
No.25189
>>25164>Nobody gets dicked over harder than those people who make novelizations of movies and shows Nah it's the VFX artists who get the worst, easily. Their field only appeared after the industry had gotten unionized so they tend to be hyper-exploited because it's harder to get away with it for any of the other jobs. A big part of the reason so many movies are CGI shitfests is because it's often cheaper to contract a VFX studio (often reneging on the contract or just outright refusing to pay) than to do traditional production for a scene.
No.25220
>>25189Yeah that's true
Those writes just get ignored
But those VFX straight up get sweatshopp'd
>>25175What is the politics of BB anyways?
I don't remember much but the plot does start literally with a guy having to sell meth to pay for his healthcare lol
No.25222
https://twitter.com/VoughtIntl/status/1527680600466984968Goofy as marketting
They even got Mike Londaly Pillow Guy, I'm sure he will pop up in some commerical this season
Snyder Quote Retweeted it No.25226
>>25220>What is the politics of BB anyways?Vaguely "apolitical"? Pretty sure Vince Gilligan has talked about the healthcare system and war on drugs being problems, but the show itself doesn't really explore that side of things much. It shows drugs hurting people, but doesn't really examine why things are that way. Better Call Saul does more of that, but still not too much. Both shows do an alright job of being burgerpunk, because they don't really try to pretty up or romanticize things (partly because they had a very low budget initially).
One thing that might be a turn off is that while the show depicts scummy and corrupt cops, there's a pretty strong pro-police undertone to it.
I would argue that BB is passively pretty racist and sexist though. It's kind of hard not to notice that almost every prominent woman is written as a nagging harpy and that there's a pretty clear disconnect in the way that USanos and Mexicans are portrayed in terms of drug dealing, drug use, etc (haha wacky stoner vs unhinged killers etc). It feels Vince and everyone else writing the show are unconsciously replicating certain stereotypes. I don't think I've ever seen someone else mention this aspect of the show though. It's not in your face but it's there.
>I don't remember much but the plot does start literally with a guy having to sell meth to pay for his healthcare lolActually he has insurance that pays for it. His reasons for going after the money are so that his family will be taken care of after he's gone, not to avoid medical debt.
But that's just an excuse as he admits at the end of the show. He does it because he was bored with his life and he enjoyed doing the chemistry and being an outlaw. No.25296
>>25295
is thay ghislaine maxwell?
No.25299
>>25297
>did any of the post-bb media showed what happened to his family?
You see they are in witness protection in the last episode. IDK about anything beyond that.
>>25295
Oh yea btw found out that the sex scene apparently happens while covenant lady is a POW under MC's supervision so the libs cheering at this for making gamers angery were cheering for a war crime.
No.25302
>>25299did she like consent?
No.25436
>>25428Most of the times the actor is still on the payroll so they might as well give him or her a scene in a dream/flashback.
No.25437
>>25428the sopranos and its consequences
No.25456
>>25436oh that makes sense
>>25437sopranos started this?? i thought it was way older, like something from soap opreas like brave and the beautiful
So, people don't actually hallucinate dead people right
No.25457
>>25456>So, people don't actually hallucinate dead people rightIt's just a narrative device because people have decided for some reason that having a character do an internal monologue in soliloquy about these kinds of things is too unrealistic.
No.25458
New stranger things season dropped gonna watch it cumrades
No.25461
>>25458was it good? i'm gonna watch it this weekend
the new villains keeps getting more and more gross to me
No.25462
>>25457> internal monologue in soliloquythat would be honestly refreshing, we need shows with new narrative devices
like the latest one i can think of is smart phone bubble texts
No.25545
Netflix will stop green-lighting “expensive vanity projects” such as ‘The Irishman’.
“This tendency to do anything to attract talent and giving them carte blanche is going away,” says one source.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/netflix-movies-knives-out-gray-man-red-notice-1235156868/ No.25546
>>25545Netflix getting rid of another thing that makes people want to subscribe. Looks very much like they are hitting the end of their business life cycle.
No.25550
>>25505why?
Anyone watching The Boys S3?
It just dropped
No.25555
>>25549Literally every Netflix production is so fucking soulless, you can tell nobody involved gives a single shit about anything other than getting a paycheck
No.25561
>>25545only $41 million dollar stranger things episodes from now on
No.25590
>>25549The Irishman is literally Hollywood mob flick #293842013 but released past the genre's prime.
No.25593
>>25550I watched it, pretty good so far.
No.25710
>>25590maybe if you can't recognize subtext lol
dislike it if you want, but don't act like it doesn't have a specific take on the genre
as a film made way past the genre's prime
No.25711
>>25710There was no subtext. The only message was he wasted his life doing bad things and hanging out with mobsters instead of being a good father.
No.25730
If Vecna got you
What memories and songs would you use to fight back and live?
No.25821
Embedding error.
TV shows only you remember
This was another one of those shows designed to sell kids toys and it worked
I can't remember the story but it seems like Yo-Yos + Military Camp + Beyblade myths
No.25847
>>25844punished peep show for a more miserable era
No.25943
the handmaid's tale is still going on?
it's been like years
will they incorporate the latest supreme court stuff in some way
No.25948
>>25936They were rather distant in the OG timeline, so maybe its because of that.
But i didn't watch the show due to my lack of interest, so i can't really opiniate.
No.25972
>>25948it's unreal the lack of chemistry she has with her own husband and daughter
i'm guessing it's intentional cause it's good with other characters
so this show and the game take in separate timelines?
i noticed there's a silver team instead of red or blue
i'm liking the show, so i'm even watching the specials that for some reason are only on paramount australia yt channel
>mfw masterchief ate 8,500 calories dailymore like masterchef
No.26007
>>26001>So parts of Mexico are basically banana republics for avocados, and there's been power struggles over itKek, just reminded me of an episode of The Blacklist that was about this lmao
No.26034
>>26001>>Wine episode>This one is half China rising and half French wine kulaks MALDING that people would rather buy inexpensive wine from elsewhereLOL
Tell me more about other episodes
Is there a Cuba or India episode? I wonder what they produce
>>26006I'm going to watch it soon
>>26007Yo you watched that? I love James Spader, I watched like 2 eps years ago and stopped
Is it still going?
No.26039
>>26034>Tell me more about other episodesI will come back and post more summaries as I watch the series.
No.26040
They did a musical with the boys??!?
Is the big dick commie guy back this season or not
I've not watched it yet
>>26039Thank you
No.26041
>>26040>Is the big dick commie guy back this season or notDidn't he die or something? He only appeared and a one-off joke character.
No.26045
>>26034>I'm going to watch it soonMhmm, it's a pretty good show, though I am disappointed at the lack of stuff from the USSR's perspective :/
>Yo you watched that?Yeah
>Is it still goingYeah, 9 seasons so far with a 10th coming up
>>26041As far as I'm aware he was just simply knocked out
>>26040Nah, just a dream sequence from Kimiko lmao
No.26063
>>26057Is this about Blackadder
No.26086
i hear shit is going down in the boys subbreddit because the latest episode is political as fuck
something about the george floyd cop killer
wew
No.26087
>>26086lol seems right wingers are doing the thing where they pretend it's not a satire of them
i wonder if they do it in some 4d chess attempt to stop people satirizing them
No.26103
>>26087what is herogasm (other than a superhero orgy) that everybody is going cray-cray for?
i've never read the comics? what is so crazy about it
the og comic literally starts with some guy fucking someone's nose or some shit
No.26111
>>26104p sure this stuff is just for nostalgic gen x women
No.26112
>>26104I don't watch this type of stuff but I would if I had someone to watch it with ;)
No.26113
>>26112We could watch it together, on cytube or whatever it is called.
No.26115
>>26114 (me)
I was talking more about in person, so unless you appear at my bedroom door it aint happening
No.26141
>>26112me too, i want a gf that like wants to watch stuff like this together
it'd be comfy
>>3012Anyways I'm watching that Drop out show from hulu about the thernaos founder
And it's kinda sad, she was basically groomed by this older guy, it's very creepy
Also it's insane click on someone's wikipedia page and seeing their ancestors have blue link pages
No.26213
I don't know if this is the right place for this or not but I want to make a post in defence of Family Guy.
Humor is very subjective so ultimately if you don't find the show funny you don't find the show funny and there is nothing wrong with that.
But…
I regularly see people use Family Guy as a punching bag. A lot of tv "connoisseurs" look down on, of all things, a fucking cartoon program.
>NOOOO, this cartoon is not up to MY standards, I expect it to be an absolute masterpiece much like 2001: A Space Odyssey
The main criticism, besides the humor not being funny (which is a totally valid criticism, but keep in mind humor is subjective) is the cutaways. The argument goes along the lines of that the cutaways are:
1. a cheap way to generate humor.
2. unrelated to the plot
Lets be real, if you don't like Family Guy its probably because you don't like Family Guy. Its probably not because of "Oh I actually enjoy the shit out of Family Guy but I cannot watch it because the hecking cutaways"
>Oh no the cutaways have nothing to do with the plot therefore my day is ruined.
>Oh no the cutaways are a quick easy way to get a laugh, in a silly cartoon program, oh no this ruined my whole week.
Like really, that's your criticism, the fucking cutaways. The cutaways are… LE BAD!!! Like fucking grow up. I'm not saying the cutaways are necessarily good but its such a minor thing to get worked up on in a fucking silly cartoon program. Even the criticism of the characters over time becoming more of a stereotype of themselves is more valid that this.
>The cutaways have to be relevant to the plot because… because they just have to, ok!?
Why? Why do they have to? They don't have to so deal with it.
Yeah so basically my point is that Family Guy is an okish show and people use it as punching bag because it's an easy target and because it's what other tv snobs do.
No.26214
>>26213this is the thread
No.26215
>>26213be honest, how much did you have to drink?
how long was this deep in your heart?
i don't really disagree with your statements, everything is subjective
i shit on south park only because of it's annoying reddit politics and influence on other morons who watch it
family guy is actually just random, funny edgy shit,
i hate that i love it
it's like junk food
No.26216
>>26215>be honest, how much did you have to drink?I have not drunk any alcohol or done any drugs today.
>it's like junk foodthis. people criticise the shit out of it but all Family Guy is supposed to be, and what it is, is a dumb somewhat funny cartoon. like yeah its not a classic that will be remember for centuries to come, its not trying to be one.
No.26313
Westworld S4 tonight. True to the brand image for the last 3 seasons it's an underwhelming mystery box of self-important nonsense that basically ignores the stakes of the season before it. Dolores didn't really die, the world is lampshaded as being pretty much the same after the revolution (except now everything is solarpunk instead of S3's 20-minutes-into-the-future white and chrome look), and the new cryptic macguffin is called the Tower instead of the Maze, or Forge, or Valley Beyond or whatever. They have yet to see a single new plot element or character that doesn't come across as self-parody.
No.26320
>>26313are the dinosaurs safe?
has is it deviated from Micheal Crichton's book?
No.26323
>>26322I saw the comic pages where they went to russia and he shows them the five year plan supes that stalin made
would've been comfy
i am still not sure if it's just an edgy lib (i.e both sides bad with that aoc secret baddy) show or actually a leftist one
did you notice any anti-communist tones in the new season?
No.26325
I'm not watching Umbrella Academy solely for it's le ebil gommies alt-reality plot they're doing I heard some years ago
Shame cause it looks cool
No.26341
>>26322It feels like the writers for the show forgot that The Boys is about, well, the boys, and not the superheroes.
No.26358
>>26323>did you notice any anti-communist tones in the new season?Not him, but surprisingly none. There was only a very subtle criticism towards russian oligarchs, in fact they murder one as a side mission when they travel to Russia. But it was a supe-consuming therefore western influenced Russia rather than anything commie.
In the last episode there was a parody of anti-commie 70s shows and America backing mujahideen lol
No.26388
>>26358>In the last episode there was a parody of anti-commie 70s shows and America backing mujahideen lolBASED
>@TheBoysTV<Spoilers if you haven't got a load of #Herogasm yet. But givin’ ya a little peek at how the (love) sausage gets made.They can't keep getting away it
No.26391
I wish they ended Westworld after season one, it ended fine as it did. Season two sucked, season three had some moments but overall sucked as well. They dug themselves into this hole where everybody is a host now, or everybody could be a host, hence also can't die because you can just 3D print a new body. This way the stakes a lowered, you don't really root for anybody, and why they beautyfully depicted Dolores' and Maeves journey to consciousness, they don't care about that anymore, everyone is conscious, and we are just supposed to accept that. When all the protagonists are androids it breaks immersion. Season four looks like shit as well. "Actually this guy was a host all along!" became stale quickly after the Bernard reveal in season one because they keep using that.
No.26392
>>26358I assumed they finished filming before the Ukraine war, or they would have added some more anti-Russian tropes. Their main focus seems to be a harsh parody on America, but unlike movies like "Don't Look Up" they are not just going for one side but take the living shit out of liberals as well. In fact, moreso this season. And I feel like you kinda have to, because when you target Marvel/DC you have to focus liberals because those fan communities are filled to the brink with those types (except the Joker movie).
Sometimes they are going overboard with the constant sex jokes and over-the-top gore, I didn't like how Heroegasm was pitched as this sickest episode ever when everything we saw wasn't as near as fucked up as that Termite scene in episode one. It's their trademark now but I always enjoy the more dialog-heavy scenes, flashbacks of Soldier Boy (that Blondie cover cracked me up), and so on. They don't need to become all that silly, it feels like fan service for the idiots that just watch it for the shock value which was the same problem Game of Thrones got.
No.26401
>>26391It's funny how season 4 had almost no marketing. HBO probably wants to kill the show for being expensive. They reduced the budget so much that season 4 just time skips past the ensuing chaos at the end of season 3. The conflict is just over and we're back to brunch lmao. Near the beginning of the first episode there's even a conversation about how after they deleted all the AI and robots things are still the same.
>They dug themselves into this hole where everybody is a host now, or everybody could be a host, hence also can't die because you can just 3D print a new body.They even killed off pretty much the last remaining human character in the post-credits scene at the end of season 3 just to introduce a host replacement. Not even playing around with mystery, just the new robot comes in, unceremoniously slits throat, takes place lmao.
No.26402
>>26401The guy who played Jesse in BB is still human, right? I haven't watched episode two.
>It's funny how season 4 had almost no marketing. HBO probably wants to kill the show for being expensive. Classic HBO move. This show seems done, really. Feel sorry for the actors, I like Thandie Newton, she aged like wine. It's also funny it's still called Westworld while having nothing to do with the park or the Wild West at all anymore.
>They even killed off pretty much the last remaining human character in the post-credits scene at the end of season 3 just to introduce a host replacement. Not even playing around with mystery, just the new robot comes in, unceremoniously slits throat, takes place lmao.Apparently Ed Harris was quite mad that his story in season 3 was so convoluted and nonsensical.
No.26428
>>26388>>26322Well, two-off cameo so far. He survived the herogasm episode so he might be brought back again, but I get the feeling that Amazon might have vetoed an outright heroic communist being part of the show.
>did you notice any anti-communist tones in the new season?Part of the plot involves the Sandinistas (mentioned by name) who are not really portrayed either negatively or positively, kind of just there as the people the CIA was fighting that week (the CIA is portrayed wholly negatively). This is probably as good as you will get from a show on Amazon.
>>26402>The guy who played Jesse in BB is still human, right? I haven't watched episode two. Supposedly he's human but there's still weird shit from season 3 that was never resolved where his memory appeared to "glitch" or something so who knows.
>Apparently Ed Harris was quite mad that his story in season 3 was so convoluted and nonsensical.Heard that too. Not surprised in the least. It's like they realized "he was too much of an epic gamer and epic gamed too hard" was too thin of a premise and they didn't want to waste a good actor('s paycheck) so they added a lot of nonsense and then ultimately said fuck it and hit the reset button on him.
It's a shame because the setup from season 1 had potential but they just didn't know what to do with it. At least Anthony Hopkins got out before the whole thing tanked. He's definitely too old for this shit.
No.26444
Anyone here watched the new season of Stranger Things? I'm curious to hear some opinions about it. Yeah, it's still anticommunist nonsense, but leaving that aside, I've felt it tried too hard to become serious and just feels melodramatic and shlocky. Also what's up with the writers introducting characters and then just killing them? Feels like wasted potential, especially when the chemistry between the characters is one of the only good things in the show, for no reason other than to show "the stakes are real" as if that were necessary.
No.26492
Drunk review: more Westworld S4 tonight, it's still fucking garbage. Why do I watch this shit.
No.26499
Not that anon
>>26492 but Jesus Christ is this bad. There is nothing interesting about this set-up, I don't even know what they are supposed to be going for this season.
So apparently even this Caleb guy is a robot because in Maeve's flashback we saw him getting shot.
Season 3 was fucking amazing compared to this.
No.26505
All caught up with Better call saul. Good show those dudes do a great job of tying everything in. july 11th is the next premiere we should stream it
No.26515
>>26499>>26492>>26428You'd think they would have been smart enough to drop the mystery box shit after the first season since the show is no longer about robots becoming self-aware and the reason it worked for that was to make their experience more relatable. The next episode teaser seems to imply they are going to have
Bernard and Stubbs in yet another time period (post-apocalyptic future).
Maeve and Caleb
just walking right into the new park entrance was fucking retarded.
And Maeve tells Caleb to just hand over his phone trust me bro, even though we see in this episode him using it to keep in contact with his friends who are guarding his family….. what could go wrong? At least they have some chemistry unlike Caleb and Dolores, too bad they skipped the several years they were comrades in arms and we're getting Star Wars prequel writing where they're like "hey you remember the time this happened?" instead of letting the audience see it happen.
>>26505IDK how they are going to wrap up the show with the half-season left. There's a lot to cover, but they did a good job with BrBa's condensed last season.
No.26517
>>26515>IDK how they are going to wrap up the show with the half-season leftI mean the only hanging plot threads left are
1. Lalo, obviously. Could take anywhere between a couple episodes to the rest of the season to finish his part of the story.
2. Kim,
she doesn't show up in BB and raised a lot of death flags this past season, so my bets are either she dies next ep or she gets Vacuumed3. Gene, the last 2 eps or so are enough to provide a conclusion to this, though I really have no clue what this would be besides Jimmy returning to his real persona. What's interesting is we've seen in Kim's flashbacks that she's from Nebraska where Jimmy is hiding now, so maybe the big conclusion is
a reunion with her or some kind of closure for Jimmy if she happens to die these next few eps4. The one throwaway line in Breaking Bad where Saul blames Nacho for something that happened to Lalo now makes absolutely no sense
considering Nacho is dead, curious if they're gonna leave that hanging or somehow fix it so it connects to breaking bad nicely.
All in all I think 6 eps is enough
No.26561
>>26517To be fair about point 4, Saul (and possibly Lalo) doesn't know that Nacho is dead so something may happen that someone is gonna pin on Nacho
No.26596
>>26595this show was released in the soviet union as "Мод"
No.26602
>>26601I feel like if Kim died Jimmy would be too fucked up to successfully be the Saul persona from BrBa. However, maybe he just throws himself into it to cope with her dying. Recent episodes have revealed that some of the defining aspects of Saul were either influenced by Kim or just totally her idea. He might embrace the character because it's something she created for him.
No.26603
>>26602I don't think they have to kill her for Jimmy to be distraught about her absence, there was a recent teaser where Kim can be heard testifying before court so maybe the authorities catch both of them with
Howard's corpse in their apartment and through some scheme Kim is the one who's sent away to prison and so Jimmy copes by fully embracing Saul Goodman. Maybe even the show will end with Jimmy standing up to the court to clear Kim's name and so he gets arrested instead, maybe not.
No.26668
opinions on The Boys season finale? i'll just say that it's funny how many people is seething over Soldier Boy being portrayed as evil and racist, seem like rightoids not catching the point and projecting themselves on him as usual.
but i think it's also writer's fault for making him too charismatic
No.26669
>>26668wait really?? then why did i see a scene with him and homelander beefing?
i was kinda thinking he's like good and on the boys side or something, what's their fight over
who is more racist???
No.26670
>>26669Soldier Boy is more racist. I mean it was pretty on the nose with Payback having one black member who constantly gets beaten up and having to wear a mask, or Soldier Boy killing entire black families and being unapologetic about it. It was also hinted that he's a pedo. Homelander is just a narcissist with his bigotry coming out of ignorance and insensitivity.
I rooted for Homelander in that showdown. Plus, throughout the entire season he has left regular people more or less alone, he bullied and abused other Supers like The Deep and A-Train who are also total douchebags.
>>26668>seem like rightoids not catching the point and projecting themselves on him as usualHow dumb are they actually. This is beyond thinking that Starship Troopers isn't satire or that the Imperium in WH40 isn't a cartoonish parody. This show really flies over some heads, I've seen takes not understanding that the Contras in Nicaragua weren't the good guys or that the Mujaheddin weren't the freedom fighters.
No.26679
>>26668>opinions on The Boys season finaleI think it was too dark.
>>26669Well, the fight is complicated but that's the point. One exchange goes like this
Soldier Boy: You're weak.
Homelander: Weak? I am you.
Soldier Boy: Yes, you are a disappointment.
Basically, he doesn't like the image in the mirror.
>>26670>Homelander is just a narcissist with his bigotry coming out of ignorance and insensitivity. Whether bigoted or not he's a rapist and murderer (and habitually so). I don't think there is a distinction between them. If anything Soldier Boy is preferable because we saw him maybe wishing for betterment.
No.26684
>>26668Quality nosedive tbh. There were a lot of bizarre writing decisions that feel like they were being dragged along by the studio.
>Black Noir and A Train being completely wasted (Excuse me sweaty we only have room for one black man in the big action scene, and MM has to be there.)>The Boys completely switching their plans as soon as the fight starts because for no good reason they all believe Soldier Boy wants to kill Ryan, even though he LITERALLY just said that Homelander could have been saved if he had been able to be a father to him. This should extend to Ryan of course, because now there is an opportunity to do it right. I understand knocking him away after getting lasered, and so should everyone else present for fuck's sake lol. Just tell him to leave the kid out of it. Deal with Homelander first and then deal with Soldier boy if he's even a problem. Dude seems like he would prefer to just fuck off into retirement unlike Homelander.>Hughie's character development against toxic masculinity culminating in choosing to turn up the lights so Starlight can… push Soldier Boy back a few feet>Kimiko reverting to a sadistic psychopath immediately after getting her powers back. Didn't she just have an entire arc about feeling guilty over the consequences of violence? Fuck that, we gotta use more licensed music (and the most cliche shit imaginable too). And she's so distracted by beating a dead guard that she lets Frenchie get shot. Beyond cringe.>Maeve deciding to tackle Soldier Boy out the window, despite the fact that him going nuclear where he is will de-power everybody including Homelander and maybe even help Butcher with the Temp V problem. People seem to justify this because the building would collapse, but doing a mini-9/11 would be: a small price to pay to stop Homelander, a poetic way to stop Homelander, effective political commentary since Soldier Boy caused it, possibly trapping all of them (Soldier Boy included) in the rubble, and would be the final blow to Vought. It would have been an appropriate way to end the season and feel like big changes happened.>Maeve surviving falling out of a skyscraper after being de-powered was almost certainly because somebody realized that her making a noble sacrifice would be criticized as "bury your gays," so I guess our lesbian bisexual queen doesn't get to enjoy the hero trope fully because it might also be construed as anti-gay.>Butcher not being reduced to The Boys' janitor after everything he did this season
>The Boys are pretty much where they started, even though Vought took a hit. Trading Butcher for Annie is an improvement, but Butcher is probably going to plot armor his way out of his bad prognosis.>Homelander literally did what Trump quipped about killing somebody in broad daylight and not losing support so he's going to be an even bigger threat now. And Soldier Boy is back on ice and wouldn't be cooperative even if he was revived.>The president is going to be Head-pop Kamalatl;drFeels like it's in spinning-its-wheels territory where they have to mostly keep things status quo and there's too much plot armor going around. Ryan might have an interesting arc in the next season.
>i'll just say that it's funny how many people is seething over Soldier Boy being portrayed as evil and racist, seem like rightoids not catching the point and projecting themselves on him as usual.but i think it's also writer's fault for making him too charismatic
It's definitely the actor and not the writers doing this. He's written like he's a retarded boomer, but he's played by a dude who was a heartthrob for years, and is super young for the character's age (not his fault, but a casting department thing).
>>26669>i was kinda thinking he's like good and on the boys side or something, what's their fight overThe fight is over having Antony Starr come back next season and Jensen Ackles not.
>>26670>Soldier Boy is more racist. I mean it was pretty on the noseTbh I think they were too subtle about it. It was basically subtext. They probably should have had him say something overtly racist or used a slur or something to make it unambiguous and so the SB simps would unavoidably look bad.
>This show really flies over some headsWhich tbh makes it fall short of the comic book. For all the blunt and excessive gore and sex, the show really shies away from being overt about its messaging. There's something incredibly juvenile about that contradiction.
>>26679>Whether bigoted or not he's a rapist and murderer (and habitually so). I don't think there is a distinction between them. If anything Soldier Boy is preferable because we saw him maybe wishing for betterment.Like I said elsewhere in the comment, if left alone Soldier Boy would probably just fuck off to the middle of nowhere and drink until he dies of old age. Homelander actively threatens and performs mass murder to get his rocks off. Soldier Boy is definitely more racist, but he's not particularly motivated to do anything about it. Homelander is much more likely to kill a shitload of black people by virtue of being likely to kill a shitload of people in general. Soldier Boy probably would be content to be the codger yelling at people from his porch tbh, but the entire time we see him, he's basically hung-over from being thawed out so who can say what he'd be like after a couple years trying to cope with the PTSD from being tortured.
>he's a rapist and murderer (and habitually so)Speaking of which, it's ridiculously implausible that he only has one child by rape. If they committed to the premise, he would be doing some Epstein shit, impregnating shitloads of women to have a whole army of mini-mes with laser eyes. It's not even that he lacks the cleverness to do this, but that he would do it unintentionally from lack of self control. Rapists don't just rape one person and then stop. And it would be another opportunity for social commentary but it's probably too edgy for a show that actually did the "what if ant man went in Thanos' asshole" bit.
No.26685
>>26684I agree with most of it, it felt a bit like a let down. Same with season 2 finale, which I also thought didn't end the season satisfyingly. The writers seem to be very good to open up several interesting plotlines but fail to weave them together in the finale, which may also be blamed on a season only being 8 episodes (which I understand why, it looks like an expensive show). I liked most of the season, I liked Herogasm (even though overhyped by marketing) and episode 7, but this was the first episode in this season that left me fully disappointed.
>Black Noir and A Train being completely wasted (Excuse me sweaty we only have room for one black man in the big action scene, and MM has to be there.)Absolutely agree. We got a Black Noir heavy episode last week, where he finally was ready to face his demons, and then he just gets offed by Homelander for no reason. A-Train and The Deep are comedic relief but they always get wrapped in some shit that for some reason doesn't matter anymore by the end. Deep's relationship drama? We didn't even see his perfomance on Hannity! Is A-Train now a changed man or not? We don't know, seems like the same old asshole.
>Dude seems like he would prefer to just fuck off into retirement unlike Homelander.I don't know, he seemed to have been extremely pissed about Homelander taking his spot. He is worried about his brand just like Homelander.
>>Maeve surviving falling out of a skyscraper after being de-powered was almost certainly because somebody realized that her making a noble sacrifice would be criticized as "bury your gays," so I guess our lesbian bisexual queen doesn't get to enjoy the hero trope fully because it might also be construed as anti-gay.Which is ironic because that is the exact same woke trope they made fun of. Also, Maeve holding up so well against Homelander seems kinda unrealistic as she was afraid of him physically for years and I remember when she attacked him in the comics she died instantly. They definitely nerfed Homelander quite a bit this season, or buffed his opponents depending on how you look at it. Not sure if I am a fan, Homelander's strength as a villian comes from being a Superman-like being.
>The Boys are pretty much where they started, even though Vought took a hit.Feels like all the season finales are basically just a reset to set up another new story line in the next one. Well thankfully they said they only wanna do five seasons, so it might be salvagable.
>It's definitely the actor and not the writers doing this. He's written like he's a retarded boomer, but he's played by a dude who was a heartthrob for years, and is super young for the character's age (not his fault, but a casting department thing).Tbf Ackles did a good job with the character. His delivery on all his lines was on point and it actually got me laugh a couple of times.
>They probably should have had him say something overtly racist or used a slur or something to make it unambiguousI wacthed in an interview with Eric Kripke and Aya Cash that they didn't have Stormfront say the n-word because it would be too gratuitous. If they don't have SF say that word, SB would for sure not do that either.
>Which tbh makes it fall short of the comic book. For all the blunt and excessive gore and sex, the show really shies away from being overt about its messaging. There's something incredibly juvenile about that contradiction.I disagree. The show is much much more sophisticated than the comic books which seem to rely more on gore and sex than messaging. I also don't mind the show making references to the Trump shit, because they equally take the shit out of woke libs as well, as far as both sides get it, I am fine.
No.26686
>>26668I can't believe Maeve survived through the end. Even more contrived plot armor than Homelander.
No.26687
>>26686Have they killed any significant character this season? I guess the most shocking death was Supersonic. Even A-Train's death was a fakeout.
I still can't get over how forced that final battle was. They built up years of sheer animosity and hatred of the Boys towards Homelander and in the final battle they just turn against Soldier Boy who… didn't really do them any harm except for M.M.? We haven't really seen anything that would justify helping Homelander against Soldier Boy except that
maybe he is a bit of a pedo and that
maybe is a bit of a racist. But has he ever fucked them over besides that thing in episode 7 where he didn't tell them what Mindstorm revealed to him? At least with Stormfront there was a plethora of reasons why they would want to get rid of her.
No.26701
>>26684>Maeve deciding to tackle Soldier Boy Oh shit I didn't even think of that. What a mess that final fight is, absolute disaster. I guess they wrote themselves into a corner and they need Homelander as villain.
No.26702
>>26701>they wrote themselves into a cornerthis wouldnt have happened if they adapted the comics faithfully
No.26703
>>26685>Also, Maeve holding up so well against Homelander seems kinda unrealistic as she was afraid of him physically for yearsThey seemed to be going for the idea that fear of Homelander was stopping her (and others) from doing anything more than his actual power difference, which would be a fine theme in any other story but directly contradicts the premise here. The show is pretty vague about power levels in general tbh. Like Homelander can laser Stormfront's tits and it doesn't really bother her but Ryan's laser eyes fuck her up like Anakin Skywalker and kill Becca as collateral damage. Maeve being able to do actual damage to him just to immediately get
killed depowered and put on a bus is testament to it being a bad idea for fucking up the power dynamic.
>Well thankfully they said they only wanna do five seasonsThey could keep up this formula as long as they want so it's good they plan to wrap it up. On the one hand it's very annoying how status quo'd everything gets, but on the other hand it does suit the show's themes about the odds being faced and how certain people (even among supes) are just more important/powerful than others and sticking around while more minor characters keep dying and rotating out.
>Tbf Ackles did a good job with the character.Oh he nailed it. The casting department just miscalculated in terms of how to properly cast what they were going for with the character. It's a problem you see a lot with looking back on that time period, not understanding just how boneheaded and toxic people really were. Soldier Boy is fun to watch because he's written/played with current sensibilities and his notion of masculinity is seen through a nostalgic lens, and the character is pretty self-aware of his weaknesses and vulnerabilities,
extremely so for someone from his time and place. If they really wanted to get the effect they were going for, the smart thing would be to make him like John Wayne (the actual guy not the popular image of him) but with extra brain damage. Just a cantankerous belligerent asshole prone to violent outbursts. They wrote him to be too moody and contemplative for what he's supposed to be on a literal level.
> they didn't have Stormfront say the n-word because it would be too gratuitousYeah but she was unambiguously a nazi. Soldier Boy's racism was really understated and the fact that MM was really the only one to acknowledge it at all made it worse. It would have made sense if they had him say some line to the effect of "what the fuck is this monkey doing here" when he sees a black person in an establishment. Racists really do just say wack shit like that out of nowhere. Having interacted with racists who are from that generation and the boomer generation, SB is written like the writers have had little contact with people like that.
>The show is much much more sophisticated than the comic books which seem to rely more on gore and sex than messaging.For all the sophistication it's still wildly misunderstood by a large part of the audience, because it's putting too much of its criticism in allegory instead of being direct. The comic also is not really about the same things the show is, just being a takedown of the superhero genre and being pretty unflinching about just how depraved people with these powers would really be.
>>26687>they just turn against Soldier Boy who… didn't really do them any harm except for M.M.He hit the kid (in retaliation to getting lasered) which is enough to justify fucking up the group's cohesion for a bit, but not enough to justify flipping the plan on its head. And you can tell they knew how dumb this was, because the whole episode building up to the fight is telegraphing how unsure everyone is about what they're about to do. Still makes no sense.
>>26697Shit I didn't even notice Obama, was too distracted by Huey.
No.26711
>>26492Another week brings more Westworld suffering. I don't know if I've ever watched a show as obsessed with making references to itself as this show, at least 50% of every new episode is just "hey, remember this" references to things people thought were cool from season 1 like the black and white hats or the saloon robbery. I also don't know if I've seen a show fall from critically acclaimed mystery box prestige TV to low budget campy schlock so precipitously. Maybe Game of Thrones.
No.26776
>>26711lol
i watched a recap of that show and it seemed annoying asf
where even is it going
No.26777
>>26711that is literally every tv show past its first season
No.26778
>>26777Not Cheers ;^)
Sitcom chads stay winning
No.26825
>>26777Yeah I've noticed that mostly due to the pressure by the network that the first season must already have great ratings they shoot all their bullets in the first season already. This way they have to reset things at the start of the every new season because most plot lines have already been played out.
DS9 had an absolutely shitty first two seasons and then became great. Today, that would have meant cancellation after the first season.
No.26827
>>26781I expected Lalo to take up the rest of the season but I guess not, now I have no clue where the series is gonna go next. Maybe Jimmy and Kim split up as a result of
Howard's death? We've seen a teaser of Kim testifying before a court, so it could be that she feels guilty after they
not only ruined Howard's life but lead him directly to his brutal death, so she takes credit for it as an attempt at redemption, and the reason we've never seen her in BB is because she was locked up. Can't wait for next week, terrific episode.
No.26828
>>26825>DS9 had an absolutely shitty first two seasons and then became greatStarting off bad than getting unironically good is every Berman-era Trek show though. I think TOS is the only one that had a stronger start than finish.
No.26881
I've been binge watching some YouTube reviews of anime. Mainly from Wisecrack and something has started to annoy me. I get the sense that western reviews of non-western media can often be overly simplistic and condescending. Japanese anime and film always comment on, criticize, or are a means of coping with nuclear anxiety and/or the trauma of having lost WW2.
No.26882
>>26827>now I have no clue where the series is gonna go next.It is confirmed that
Walt and Jesse will appear this season so they probably are going to do something significant there. One of the people on the show tweeted something cryptic about doing something unusual/risky with structure this half of the season, probably with the Gene time period.
No.26885
>>26882when is it gonna air tho?
No.26919
>>26918Someone inform him that Death to Smoochy was already made.
No.26992
Resident Evil TV show
Heard it's a lot meme-y
Do I need to play the game or movie to get it? I only know the basic about Umbrella Corp
No.26993
>>26919>Death to Smoochyis this movie like that simpsons episode, "smoochie's coming to town!" or like a goosebumps episode
No.26994
>>26882>Walt and Jesse will appear this season so they probably are going to do something significant thereIdk how they're gonna do that, wouldn't it up fuck up the BB Lore?
>>26881Have you seen Bludgeoning Angle Dokuro-Chan? I just finished watch it, and it is crazy af
No way they could do WW2 connection with this anime
No.27061
Finally watching S3 Boys
It's fucking hilarious, every scene homelander is mega cucked and internally seething
On god, he's gonna blow
No.27065
On Ep2, I already fucking hate that bugman who simps for homelander, I've seen him memes and I alread want him dead
Fucking cuck was so glee when he was giving his fascist speech, out in open
Idk what the fuck Voughts gonna do to cover it up or now they're just gonna co-op the right-wing shit because of muh demos
I like that the show's giving the whole "work within the system" bit a fuck-off!
both the CIA and the government,
I truly do wonder if the main Amazon HQ has any say or creative control in these shows tho tbh
I hope they're not building upto some big parallel with billy and shitlander with their superpowers
You gotta FIGHT fire with fire, nuthin' wrong with it love
No.27096
i hope her kid dies
dumb fuckin idiot selling out like that
'ate shitlander
'ate victoria
'ate the deep
'like butcher
'like stan edgar
'like mother's milk
No.27111
God the last few BCS episodes have all kicked ass, blew all my expectations away. BB might have been more exciting and tense, but I think this show does a better job at conveying emotion, this last episode the saddest one since Chuck left the show. I didn't expect it to connect with Breaking Bad already, either, I thought it was gonna be a last-minute thing where they end the show with Walt walking into Saul's office, but I'm glad they skipped directly there instead of showing more backstory about how Saul got his car or office or mug or some shit since I thought that was the most infuriating part of this show. Also, called it
>>26827If the next few eps are all gonna be Gene Takovic then I can't wait, I've been waiting since the start of the show to see where that storyline will go. I think it's already clear how the show is gonna end,
now that Kim supposedly moved back to Nebraska, where Jimmy is hiding, but I still am super excited to see it.
No.27160
Just watched Westworld S3E4. What a steaming pile of shit this has become. It's cheesy. What a fall from grace
No.27161
>>27065>Fucking cuck was so glee when he was giving his fascist speech, out in openThe ironic part is that Homelander didn't say anything factually wrong in this speech.
No.27162
>>27111Bruh they actually did "this is the exact moment Jimmy became Saul" and also showed us BrBa Saul for the first time (which people have been waiting the whole show to see) and instead of being funny or satisfying it was one of the saddest things in BCS or BrBa.
No.27164
>>27162I was wondering how they were gonna bridge Better Call Saul with Breaking Bad when Saul has such a different personality between the two, and "BrBa Saul is Jimmy coping" is not the answer I would've expected, but now you can tell that it's what the whole show was building up toward. The early seasons, especially S1 felt soooooo slow and I really didn't give a fuck about the new characters introduced, but after this last season it's been very very much worth it, I'd say it's much better than Breaking Bad in parts. I wonder if Jimmy's words to Howard's wife this episode are in any way sincere, maybe he did some introspection after the previous ep wondering why he would do such a horrible thing to him.
Also,
technically this isn't the first time we've seen BrBa Saul in this show since there was a flashback in one of the previous seasons showing what he was doing when SHTF and it was time to run, but even then he just seemed like Jimmy.
No.27171
>>27160NTA but continuing on my (now late) weekly reviews from
>>26711At least something happened in episode 4 to advance the plot, though that something was an obvious "characters aren't all in the same timeline" reveal everyone had seen coming from episode 1. I still don't understand why (besides grossing out the audience) Charlotte needs to put her mind control goop in flies and then put the flies in people when she could just aerosolize the mind control goop instead and infect people much more efficiently and covertly. From previews it looks like Stubbs and the other half of Frankie's Terminator: Salvation LARP group are going to try and rescue Christina next week and will get jumped by Charlotte in the process.
No.27188
>>27171>was an obvious "characters aren't all in the same timeline" reveal everyone had seen coming from episode 1It was almost the opposite though. It was never a secret that there were different timelines this time (at least Bernard vs Caleb wasn't, Christina was ambiguous), but the reveal is that some of the Caleb scenes were actually happening later because they were being replayed. IDK how there's people who think "westworld's back" though. Sure the scene rendered the twist effectively, but they were never not able to do that. They did it effectively in season 3 when Maeve was inside a simulation with Sizemore. It's just that these twists aren't that surprising when you keep doing it.
Speaking of Lee, how is he not the first time Maeve was confronted with mortality? She was pretty much war buddies with both him and Caleb and Lee actually made an intentional sacrifice for her and the hosts, while Caleb just randomly got shot (and also survived it). It's like the writers KiNdA fOrGoT what Maeve was doing in season 2. Outside season 1 they really can not give her a plausible motivation.
>I still don't understand why (besides grossing out the audience) Charlotte needs to put her mind control goop in flies and then put the flies in peopleBecause they haven't used the fly motif since season 1 and they want to bring it back. Using some kid of biological agent to control people is not a bad idea, but delivering it by having flies lay eggs in people is weirdly obvious. Flies aren't that sus most of the time, but burrowing into people definitely would draw attention. It'd make more sense to hide parasites in people's food or something.
>Stubbs and the other half of Frankie's Terminator: Salvation LARP group are going to try and rescue Christina next week and will get jumped by Charlotte in the process.Well, Teddy was in host heaven and only Bernard has the key so him showing up would suggest Bernard and the resistance got him out to wake up Christina or something. All the plots are in the same time period now but not necessarily in exact chronological order.
No.27251
>>27249Is that saul goodman and his mom?
No.27253
>>27252oh for fuck's sake
is that his mom or not? this is post bb right? this scene
No.27254
>>27253yo his mom's dead since before the show lmao
No.27264
What We Do In The Shadows? Is the show or the movie better
Or are they are continuation of the movie
No.27271
>>27264Haven't seen the show, but it's an unrelated spinoff. The original characters might show up briefly or something, but it's a bout a different group.
>>27265Jimmy's mom's death is shown in a flashback and is important to his and Chuck's relationship.
Her last words are calling out to Jimmy, just after he left the room. Chuck tries to make their mother recognize that he is there, but she quickly dies. When Jimmy finds out she died while he was away he asks about it and Chuck lies that she never spoke. No.27276
FX shows just depress me for some reason
I liked the first episode of Reservation Dogs but like the second episode, I'm just so bummed out by it
it's supposed to be coming of age, comedy, but it's just so real and gritty
I have a problem with reality I think
No.27277
>>27276>I have a problem with reality I thinkGritty shows are selectively filtering reality through a dark'n'edgy lens. You don't have a problem with reality. You have a problem with a fixation on darkness.
The current trend of dark shows is spurred by the wider prestige TV trend. It's a growing pain of the medium where people are excited about the idea that TV is becoming "mature" and "high art," so they seek out products that aesthetically align with those values. The thing is, while TV is more able now to make mature or sophisticated shows, the tastes of the audience is lagging a bit behind that. The result is the people understand maturity as "mature content" and not much else. They think watching the darkness or potentially offensive content proves they have refined tastes. The novelty will eventually wear off, and the memorable shows will be the ones that told actually mature stories, irrespective of whether they had a lot of sex and violence or bleakness.
No.27306
>>27277That's an insightful way to look at it,
Do you have any advice on how to not fixate on darkness?
No.27307
>>22185super good, binge watched it a few months back. best show of '22 by miles.
No.27312
>>27306Either find something else to fixate on, like the will to keep struggling against darkness, or work on not fixating on anything (learn to recognize when you do and form a habit of switching your focus to something else).
No.27325
Anyone have theories on Nathan Fielder's new show on HBO
"The Rehearsal" basically NFY but this time even more focus on his "pretend" character and it's going somewhere
Also I hate the chick who's playing pretend wife, absolute religioid nutjob
No.27482
>>27481>sensible chuckleDid anyone else feel a bit sad that they fast forwarded the shenanigans of Gene and his minions? I would have loved to see more Gene, and with the superb writing and cinematography as of late i think they could have had a whole slow-burn season of him without it getting boring.
As for the cliffhanger,
will the dude be dead due to the drug cocktail, or will he be awake and cause a ruckus? No.27498
>>27479>>27481I'm not currently watching BCS
Can someone explain how they intergrated walter and jesse into the show for a cameo?
Random flashback? Was the show building to that moment?
Or was it before they became methead and jughead (but then why would they be together)
No.27504
>>27498>Random flashback?Sort of.
>Was the show building to that moment? In a meta sense, yeah. In the show they didn't really foreshadow it much. First mention of it other than at the very start when Saul is panicking and preparing to leave was the previous episode when Gene references the whole Heisenberg situation. In this episode they tease it a bit before actually showing them.
>Or was it before they became methead and jughead (but then why would they be together)It's when they meet Saul. They extend the scene to show additional character building. It feels like they may have more scenes in the later episodes. The payoff in this episode was
a parallel with between Jimmy's Saul period and his Gene period, where he is going after something that he should know better than to do. They do a match cut between the time periods to emphasize that he is making the same mistake again.>>27482My guess is
Gene gets to watch him die, similar to Walter with Jane for maximum BRABO BINCE No.27525
>>27504man the show sound amazing
i really feel like going back watching it all from the beginning
but i can't handle the feels
how much does BCS enjoyment increase if you remember everything about BB clearly?
Like i heard there's a backstory to some trashcan
how tf did vince gilligan manage that, he must be working his way back,
no way he planned this shit like george lucas
No.27536
>>27525BCS kinda stands on its own, as long as you sorta remember the events of BB you're good, though of course having it fresh in your mind would help you notice all the nods and callbacks to it (call-forwards?). I started watching like 2 months ago right after finishing Breaking Bad for the first time, and while that helped a lot it also kinda threw me off whenever a character from Breaking Bad showed up and they looked 10 years older even though the show takes nearly a decade earlier lmao. Honestly all the references to Breaking Bad might be the least favorite parts of the show for me, sometimes they're cute or extremely clever but in the later seasons I started to roll my eyes into the back of my skull, it feels like a Marvel movie or some shit. Not enough to detract from my enjoyment of the show though, it's just annoying since BCS feels like a completely different show from Breaking Bad so whenever they nod back to it, it feels super jarring. BCS is much slower paced compared to how bombastic and tense BB was, but the character writing, once you get accustomed to the new faces on the show, is soooooo good, and the way it wraps around into BB is also very well thought out even if they go overboard with it at times. The show takes a bit to get going if you're not a fan of slow burners, but the pay-off is well worth it, I was worried Bince was looking for a quick cheap cash-grab riding on the cult fame of Breaking Bad but he really did something special here, I would say Saul is in some parts better than the original show. You might want to hold off watching Breaking Bad again until after you finish with BCS. Trust me, while the character ages might be different, they've managed not only to make the transition between the two shows completely seamless but also recontextualize the entirety of Breaking Bad.
No.27556
I am watching HBO's Rap Shit and I swear to god it is making me actively become more racist
No.27557
>>27556it's just straight-up minstrelsy and people keep saying it's innovative because it's filmed as a series of live phone things but the situations in which these people are using facetime just makes me think about the boondocks "uygha technology" bit
No.27573
Primal is some good ol' Genndy kino and giving season 2 a proper arc
and villain is a good choice, but you have got to be fucking kidding me with the latest episode trying to make me sympathize with a bunch of slavers who are just reaping what they sowed lmao.
>>27525>how much does BCS enjoyment increase if you remember everything about BB clearly?It's constantly pandering to BB fans lol. Almost to an absurd degree, like how they explain the origin of the bell that Hector uses to communicate lol.
>how tf did vince gilligan manage that, he must be working his way back, no way he planned this shit like george lucasBB & BCS are pretty famously not planned out that much. Saul himself was originally just a minor character in BB until everyone saw how perfect Bob Odenkirk was in the role. Mike was also just going to be a minor character filling in for a scene because Bob wasn't available to play Saul, but everyone loved the character so much they made him a major supporting character in BB and a deuteragonist in BCS. It's 100% Vince and friends squeezing details from BB for all they're worth. A couple of major characters in BCS (Nacho and Lalo) are based on a throwaway gag line that they gave Saul in BB.
In BCS itself, they were originally going to have Jimmy become Saul Goodman after the season 1 finale, but then thought that was going too fast, so they slowed the pace down a lot and gave him much more character development (which was a very good decision and the point where he does finally "become" Saul Goodman is one of the best executed parts of BB or BCS).
>>27536 is right that BCS stands on its own.
And yeah the whole "memba dis???" thing is probably literally Vince fishing for Bravo's.
No.27577
Bob Odenkirk followed and unfollowed a "sexy feet" page account within 12 hrs
Is this accurate to the show, Does Saul Goodman have a foot fetish?
I need experts to tell me
No.27587
>>27581Pervert. How do you have that
No.27591
>>27577They 100% know about the feet memes and I doubt he didn't know people could see that.
No.27596
>>27587they call me slippin jimmy
No.27597
>>27595Thank god I don't check out any of those places anymore lol, probably gonna hold out from watching this week's ep until the finale drops
No.27633
Lol, I just found out that Nippy isn't the last BCS episode like I assumed. A part of me went "wtf?" when I saw it, while another thought it was a genious ending to finish it in a Sopranos style "and then he lived shittily ever after" manner.
No.27646
i had a dream about BCS and that there were two different shows about saul,
one was one that i had already watched years ago and it was a zombie show with an apocalyptic cult and in the finale he meets with blade and it's an marvel style set-up
i'm so fucked, i;ve only seen 1 episode 3 months ago but i imagined and gaslighted myself in my dream
No.27647
>>27595spoiler alert: saul becomes a good man
is that where the show is heading? in the flash forwards? No.27670
>>27669>stay on your toesyeah im thinking bob following the foot account was for the memes
No.27694
"We Own This City" by HBO?
idk just seems like standard copaganda, i only watched 10 minutes and bored
No.27697
>>27671I like how the dumbest BCS theory about
Marion finding Saul's commercials on youtube ended up being correct lmao
For a second I thought the show was heading toward some redemptive or happy conclusion for Jimmy, but by the looks of things the final episode is going to be really really fucking sad
Also
the fanservice this episode was annoying as fuck imo. I thought it was a pretty clever and somewhat subtle way to connect the storyline to BB by having Emilio show up right as Kim is leaving Saul's office, and then Aaron showed up blurred in the background which, while kinda cringe, could have still worked – but when he got closer and started talking to Kim like "Yo bitch this Saul Goodman guy, you think I better call him or some shit bitch?" I actually laughed out loud, it's so stupid and blatant fanservice lmao. It doesn't help that Aaron looked like 50 years olderI love the slow pace and depressing atmosphere of these last few eps, reminds me a little of Twin Peaks S3. I don't actually know how they're gonna tie everything up neatly next ep but
No.27701
>>27697Well, she didn't really end up catching him by accident really. She was already really suspicious of him and that little information nugget he blurted out confirmed her suspicions and after that it was simply a matter of connecting the dots, it makes sense she'd easily find his commercials on the internet given that he's a most wanted criminal and that his face had been everywhere for months after his escape following BrBa.
I can understand finding the Jesse and Kim scene cringe, but somehow I liked it myself. It wasn't like a completely deep and introspective scene or anything, it was just funny seeing Jesse completely oblivious to what was going on behind the scenes and it served to show how much Saul was trying to show Kim that he wasn't hurt by their breakup.
Still though, poor fucking Kim. I didn't know she could somehow have a life that's even worse than Saul/Gene's, she didn't deserve this. Also Gene was absolutely terrifying by the end of the episode,
nearly strangling that old lady was an absolute low for him that I never thought he could reach.
Fantastic episode and stellar performances all around.
No.27702
>>27701>>27697Everything that happened was his fault lol.
She got the computer with the money from the mall heist, and Gene kept going for new shit with Jeff, despite knowing he was from Albuquerque and knew who he really was. There were plenty of things that should have warned him away from continuing to interact with these people. It's a lot like Walt just not being able to let things go.
Surprising that Jimmy actually made a good point to Kim, in spite of his intentions,
being the one to tell her to come clean if she feels so guilty. Pretty ironic. Presumably it'll come together in the finale.
Tbh this scene with Jesse felt more organic to me than the previous scene with Saul, Walt, and Jesse. It also served the purpose of giving Kim the opportunity to show what she thought of Jimmy to someone she doesn't know and would have no reason to deceive. "Who you are in the dark" if you will. It also gets the ironic twist that because she is still holding onto her positive opinion of him and gives him a half-hearted recommendation to Jesse, she unknowingly helps lead to his downfall. I think they mostly put the scene in there to make up for her complete absence from BrBa and the impression that she had no impact on the story in any direct way.
No.27712
So I actually re-watched the entirety of BB+El Camino before the 10th episode of S6 of BCS. Very curious thing I noticed is how somehow, at least personally, I still keep rooting for Jimmy and what contrast it is when compared to Walt. Like… Jimmy is a complete piece of shit, maybe even more so than Walt, and really this was already how I felt about him since BCS S4 or S5. But it always comes with a big dose of "cmon man, just chill and fix your life, you don't have to do this", and a hope that it will all work out for him. Now compare this to Walt. I came in this binge spree for BB expecting to hate him but… I really didn't up until S5 where he chimps out about selling methanol. I dunno, maybe its the foreknowledge that he will (in)directly kill Hank, Mike and Alexandra, but when he starts to become obsessed about his legacy, and those per-existing entitled asshole character traits take hold, he really just died as a likeable character in my eyes and despite knowing how it goes, I was kinda rooting that he would maybe get killed before the finale. Now, the finale did do a good job to at least partially "redeem" him, but more in the sense that he realized what a massive piece of shit monster he became, and decided to at least set something right before the end.
But with Saul it just hits different. From basically the first or second BCS season he is that piece of shit where his worst traits control him like they eventually controlled Walt, but as I said, I can't help but root that maybe he manages to overcome them. Maybe its because he doesn't ever get anyone killed, until S6, but even then that death is more just an unlucky accident that wasn't Saul's fault. Even as Gene, same shit - he just can't manage to live without his antics. Really, he just seems like an addict, same as Hanks wife I'd say, and its clear he isn't doing it because of money, just for the adrenaline rush and to feed his obsession.
Well, I do hope that somehow the final episode manages to pull out a decent ending for him. As for my bets what will likely happen:
>Pointless avoidable death while running away, eg car crash
>Surrenders and maybe manages to squeeze out a non-lifetime sentence, while being supported by Kim
>Show runners actually do the completely unexpected, banal, but also realistic ending where he gets caught and jailed for life
No.27786
>>27694It's aight, Not close to "The Wire" level but definitely not copaganda.
No.27847
Anybody seen the new show about a tough restaurant? With poor man's timothee chalamete
>>27843lol what was bane doing?
No.27849
>>27847>lol what was bane doing?In the orgy episode? He spent the whole time trying to put on fetish gear because his normal outfit was getting in the way.
>>27848People just over-exaggerate how old he looks in general. You can definitely tell he's older but it's not that bad.
It is distracting with Gus, and Mike is the most obviously older, but he always looked old so it works.
No.27868
>>27862I watched half of episode 1 and thought it was okay, but it leaned a bit too into the "look at this absolute RAVING LUNATIC" for my liking when Brown seemed like a much, MUCH calmer and more eloquent figure. I don't know if I'm a big fan of the slight alt-history twist on it either, but oh well. I might continue some other time since it's so short, probably worth a watch if only to see the raid on Harper's Ferry on the big screen
No.27883
>>27868>Harper's Ferry on the big screenwhat's that
is this the only film adaptation of chad brown?
No.27885
>>27862Matt Christman talked about it I think for multiple of his vlogs. Basic takeaway was that aside from the dumb shit (like anachronistically having a character say "white savior") the portrayal of him as essentially a madman was basically correct, since you'd have to be on a completely different wavelength and totally consumed by your religious fervor to do what he did.
I think he's full of shit tbh. Plenty of people who do deeds like that are clear-headed about it.
No.27887
>>27885>consumed by your religious fervor>clear-headedPorque no los dos?
No.27888
>>27883Only one that I know of
Which is weird, since the whole thing is basically made for Hollywood. You can neatly make it three acts, starting with his his early life and his developing abolitionist views, continuing with Bleeding Kansas and his Pottawatomie gamer moment and ending with the failed raid on Harper's Ferry, perfect tragic biopic material. Though, I guess a John Brown movie would piss off both rightoids and "muh civility" libs so nobody would dare produce it
No.27890
>>27888>Though, I guess a John Brown movie would piss off both rightoids and "muh civility" libs so nobody would dare produce it😞
I will watch the show next week,
No.27893
>>27889It looks like shit. Why do I care about this Mr. Mayhew guy? Since when is he called Malcolm, anyway? Looks like the writers are pulling shit out of their ass to justify cash-grab sequels, unbravo Vince
No.27894
>>27885he’s not depicted as a “madman”, just a religious zealot coping with grief and passively racist
No.27895
>>27888On the one hand, it should be safe to recuperate John Brown because he was struggling against slavery, which totally doesn't exist now. In general you can pretty safely recuperate people who fought a struggle that's "over." But on the other hand, John Brown
killed members of the upper class and had an interpretation of Christianity that commanded him to fight struggles of liberation. You straight up can't have that shit in bourgeois capitalism, especially in the US where Christianity has such an important function in justifying the status quo.
No.27900
>>27899How crazy would it be to watch the first episode of a show and then immediately the finale?
Like that would be a unique experience
Btw who solos? Who is a better lawyer, a divorce attorney or a defense one
Arthur Hobbs vs Saul Goodman
I hope BCS gave an explanation for his colourful suits, They are so fun
No.27903
Nathan Fielder's new show The Rehearsal is genius…
No.27905
>>27903I keep hearing this but I don't understand why that is?
I've seen the first four episodes, it's just funny how he keeps getting inside and inside his own idea
No.27908
>>27906Is Succession good? The theme song slaps.
BB and BCS always had creative cinematography, even back to the BB pilot. Back then they had a shoestring budget so they made the most of what they were working with and it became a signature part of the show(s).
>How do they use photo cameras for moving television? That's weirdWell, these days the lines are blurring between still photography and video photography because the technology is mostly the same. What they mean is mostly that they use lenses and other equipment that's normally associated with still photography to create picturesque shots and make everything feel like "every frame a painting" which is partly a stylistic association and partly (as they say) improved technology being able to capture light better. One thing that stands out about BCS is how often they shoot at night, which used to be impossible because there simply wasn't enough light to get a good image. The standard for decades was to do day-for-night, where you just shoot in the day but you under-expose the film/video and color correct to give the impression of night lighting. The better cameras we have now (designed for taking photos to really punch up low lighting) can be used to shoot video and do scenes at night with little light and natural light sources that has great quality in the final image.
No.27911
>>27908Yeah it's good, I almost want to rewatch it again too, It's a dramadey like BCS
S4 is shooting currently
Very shakespearean, If you want to see rich people be miserable despite all their wealth, this is it
That stuff about shooting at day and lowering the exposure to make it look like night is ingenious stuff, fascinating
Good on us for making technology that can capture even the night
Do you know from what season they started using those cameras?
No.27914
>>27913Saul is the best lawyer
Down from a death sentence to a six month break
Nacho is the real head of the operations
I'm pretty sure this is the same guy who played Vaas in Far Cry 3
No.27918
>>27915it's saul good man
what is the context, like on his way to prison some of them recognize him? No.27923
>>27922>collapsing because you can't handle all the good man loadslol I've been there
No.27925
So now, who is gonna watch AMC+? Is there anything good?
No.27926
Damn, that Walter scene said a lot - just day after getting Hank killed, when asked about his biggest regret he is seething over Grey Matter instead of, oh, I don't know, not quiting cooking after Fring or not saving Jane or not hell, just not being cought with Gabe's book. Also I got a strong impression that he did just make shit up in his head about how he was supposedly pushed out. Maybe I somehow blanked out while rewatching BB, but the Grey Matter situation was kind of always unclear.
Anyways, think Saul basically got the best possible ending here, its just sad from writting perspective that the writters decided to salt it by dangling the 7 year sentance. Its well made, but I think there could have been better ways to have Saul end up as he did, also by finally making an attonement/sacrifice, but also with having the ending feel more uplifting than it did. Also dunno if this is just my retarded paralel, but the way Jimmy ends up really reminds me of The Namless Ones true ending from Planescape Torrment - after years of living a shitty and dead life where he repeats the same mistakes of his past over and over again, he finally takes a step forward, and sacrifices himself to at least do some good and clean a little bit of the mess he made.
No.27927
>>27911>Do you know from what season they started using those cameras?No but I'd guess they were using the best cameras they could get, right from the start. The cinematography was a signature part of BB and they stepped it up for BCS. Season 1 had a lot of scenes with low lighting, like in Saul's office or Chuck's house.
>>27926>Maybe I somehow blanked out while rewatching BB, but the Grey Matter situation was kind of always unclear. According to BrBa wiki:
<Walt and Elliott were best friends at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) and worked on their thesis together and collaborated on the scientific research that led to them being awarded the Nobel Prize ("Pilot", "Gray Matter"). Following their graduation the two friends decided to form their own scientific research company and named it "Gray Matter Technologies" after their two last names combined. The start of Gray Matter appeared to have gone slowly as Walt once mentioned the two only had a few patents pending early on ("Buyout"). At this time, Walt began dating his female lab assistant, Gretchen ("…and the Bag's in the River"). The two fell deeply in love and were at one point engaged and worked closely together with Elliott. However Walt eventually began to feel inferior to her and her family's wealth, and ultimately decided to break up with Gretchen during a vacation with her family in Newport, Rhode Island ("Peekaboo").<After leaving Gretchen, Walt sold his share of the company to Elliott for $5,000, which he claimed was a significant amount of money for him at the time. He justified his reasons for leaving only as "personal" ("Buyout"). Gretchen eventually went on to marry Elliott and Gray Matter became a highly successful, multi-billion dollar company. Although he remained friendly with the two, Walter would secretly feel that his work was stolen from him and bitterly blamed Elliott and Gretchen for his eventual financial problems and lot in life, completely ignoring the fact that he chose to leave the company himself ("Peekaboo"). Even though he would never admit it, Walt deeply regretted his decision of leaving Gray Matter ("Buyout").He was just a mad bitch lol.
Despite being the cringe "Crime and Punishment" ending it does fit Saul because he can do actual good work for once in his life from inside the prison, helping inmates with their cases and probably helping some innocent men get released. And he's finally among people who truly appreciate him, which was what the bus scene was about.
No.27928
>>27926To be fair, the Grey Matter thing was his earliest and probably biggest mistake since it would have meant he'd never have to cook in the first place. Even in S1 Elliot offers to pay for his treatment and even give him a job there, but Walt is a proud little bitch who would rather manufacture drugs and risk losing his entire family than accept a little help. Loved his cameo this episode, dialogue felt on point and he didn't even have the Megamind bald cap from El Camino to completely take me out of the show lol.
The best surprise appearance this episode, though, was Chuck's. Really brought a tear to my eye, he might have been a giant, petty, jealous asshole but he was probably the best part of the earlier seasons, missed him a lot. His scene with Jimmy where they sing The Winner Takes It All is honestly one of the best and most heartfelt scenes the entire show,
No.27929
>>27927>Despite being the cringe "Crime and Punishment" ending it does fit Saul because he can do actual good work for once in his life from inside the prison, helping inmates with their cases and probably helping some innocent men get released. And he's finally among people who truly appreciate him, which was what the bus scene was about.He was already doing basically that in S1, though, and even all the way until the Lalo stuff he was pretty dedicated to helping "the little guy", (except when he was scamming little old ladies lol). There's a reason the inmates really liked him. But I agree this was the best ending he could have gotten, last episode made me really worried since it seemed like they were going toward a super tragic, downer ending where Jimmy's addiction to Slippin' finally kills him and everyone, especially Kim, is miserable forever. Glad they went the more bittersweet route with Jimmy actually owning up to all of his fuck-ups.The bus scene felt a little weird imo, since right after Jimmy finally accepts his mistakes and sheds his Saul persona for good he is still immediately recognized by everyone as Saul. I took this to mean that even his attempt at redemption was really for nothing since his mistakes will be all he is known for until the end of his life and he will
never be able to return to Jimmy again. Don't know if that was what they were going for, I might be reading too much into it.
No.27930
>>27928>Was probably his biggest mistakeWell, yes, from his point of view it is, but that's why I think the scene is great - he is still so obsessed and prideful that when his glory-chasing with meth kills the man who basically was his brother, he decides that the biggest mistake wasn't "me doing something that got him killed" or "not picking a different option in a recent failing that lead to this", no, it was "me being stupid and leaving behind the golden ticket which would have gave me enough satisfaction that I wouldn't be "forced" to get Hank killed". Really shows off how far gone he is at that point in time. Also somewhat makes me debate if he really did have a redemption arc at the end of BB, or if he just went out with a bang so he could get the last laugh.
>>27927>began to feel inferior to her and her family's wealth>while being a noble prize winning scientistDamn, I must have missed that. Really paints a psychotic profile for Walt, kind of reminds me of Grimes from Simpsons but way worse
Also I'll be honest, they missed a great opportunity to end the show with "A winner takes it all"
>>27929>he will never be able to return to Jimmy againTo some extent that's correct (that what he did will stick to him forever), he says as much during the trial when the topic of Chuck comes up. But I think the prison scene should be considered as uplifting - even if its not the name he likes, it still shows that he isn't going to hell on earth like how that prison was first talked about, and that he will at least have friends.
No.27932
>>27928Indeed, if he fixed the Gray Matter mistake none of this shit would have happened. People also forget that Elliott straight up offers to pay for Walt's cancer treatment in the beginning of the show and you get the impression that Walt could have swallowed his pride and gone back to Elliott and Gretchen at any moment and they would have welcomed him as a business partner again. It's not just that he fucked up when he sold out of the company, but that he never tried to fix the mistake either. And Saul is similar, which was why they had that scene together. Walter was a bit more self-aware at that moment, but Saul got there eventually.
>>27929>He was already doing basically that in S1, though, and even all the way until the Lalo stuff he was pretty dedicated to helping "the little guy"Yes and no, he was, as Jesse said, "a criminal lawyer." He was helping small time crooks get away with it or get off light rather than specifically looking for innocent people to help (since there's no money in that). This isn't made a big deal of, but there's contrast established between Jimmy and Kim about this, where Kim actually does feel compelled to do pro-bono work and help with backlogged case files (which we see again in the finale when they cut from her arriving at the Central Florida law office to after she has organized their system for them). For Saul, "helping the little guy" was just marketing, but once he was in prison there was a sense he actually started doing it (my one gripe is not showing how he acted toward the other prisoners).
>last episode made me really worried since it seemed like they were going toward a super tragic, downer ending where Jimmy's addiction to Slippin' finally kills him and everyoneNah, I think they made the opposite point with the scene where he didn't have it in him to overpower an old lady. Walt would have cracked her skull as soon as he realized she found him out. Jimmy was never that guy, he just put up a facade of being an asshole to cope with his feelings. It would have been funny if they had had a scene where he finally gets out of prison on whatever they do for super old people, and he
genuinely slips and falls on his way out and gets a
real settlement for it.
>The bus scene felt a little weird imoIt was weird because of the "So that's it huh? I'm some kinda Better Call Saul?"-ness of the moment, but it makes perfect sense. I don't think it's him regressing at all, but just a recognition that in spite of the phoniness and greed he did manage to actually help a lot of people and earn a lot of respect from the "low-lifes" to contrast with how he's always seen as disgusting by the "good type of people," whether he was Jimmy or Saul.
>>27928>>27930Worth noting the scene with Walt happened
very shortly after Walt watched Hank die.
No.27938
>>27932>Walter was a bit more self-aware at that momentI got the opposite impression. At least to me it seemed like Walter only "got it" after spending three months in total isolation while slowly wasting away. In that scene with Saul, to me it felt like him spilling out all the hate and bile he felt towards the world that made him the victim, hence why his revisionism about supposedly being tricked into leaving Grey Matter, pointing fingers not at his failure to be a more decent and less egomaniacal person, but at his failure of missing an opportunity for a safer and better way to please his ego. I think this plays nicely into his scene from El Camino, where he basically flat out says that cooking meth is the happiest thing he ever did in his life and he is sad for not doing something like this sooner. So at best its only in Alaska, if ever, that Walter actually realizes his failings and grows as an individual. I'd also say that its a nice rhyming of Jessie, Walter and Jimmy, where they all fuck up their lives horribly, but realize and try to fix it at different stages, with Walter only doing it at the very end, Jimmy stopping himself right before crossing the line of no return and Jessie actually managing to save himself.
No.27946
>>27937Does this come out before or after Better Fuel Huell and Better Rim Kim?
No.27947
>>27938Just realized a little thing from the last episode - Saul could have easily had an even shorter sentancing if he had sold out Skyler, but he didn't.
No.27952
>>27946Better Fuck Chuck is gonna be about his gold old days in the 80s
No.27954
Personally I'm looking forward to Better Falter Sooner Walter Jr.
No.27955
Better Gank Hank
Better Ping Fring
Better Vector Hector
Better Bike Mike
Better Mail Gale
No.27970
I hate chuck, I hate his actor
He is so annoying, I've only seen 3 episodes, but he's so ill, and I don't think his character is going anywhere other than be a burden on Saul's character
>>27962>>27956Has it released yet? A lot of stuff is coming out this weekend
She-Hulk, LoTR, GoT and SW show
No.27975
>>27956Matt Smith is genius casting for a Targaryen since he looks like an inbred aristocratic incest baby IRL
No.27978
>>27970>She-HulkNot watching it
>LoTRDefinitely not watching it
>GoTMight pirate
>SWlol absolutely not fucking watching it
No.27979
>>27970House of the Dragon (HotD) premiers this Sunday at 9pm. It's taking the same primetime slot that Westworld had, which just finished last week. They are trying to make sure they keep the numbers up.
>>27975He's the only one with that look though, which makes it a bit odd.
Weirdly there aren't any main cast promos with all the characters in costume on google images, so here's a couple different factions from the show. I can't wait for people to complain about how they made Game of Thrones political by having House Velaryon be black.
GRRM actually floated the idea of making all the Valyrians black in the original show while they were developing it for TV.>>27978Based.
No.27981
>>27970>I hate chuck, I hate his actor>He is so annoying, I've only seen 3 episodes, but he's so ill, and I don't think his character is going anywhere other than be a burden on Saul's characterYou are supposed to hate him at this point (and also later). There is more depth to him but he is definitely an asshole and his relationship to Jimmy is central to his character. Michael McKean plays the character perfectly. Even with the rest of the cast being superb he stands out.
No.27983
dropped breaking bad after giving it a try
fucking awful acting, just as terrible writing which is almost completely fluff, gratuitous and aestheticized violence, just worthless
No.27984
>>27983>gratuitous and aestheticized violenceIs this a GPT bot? Breaking Bad always makes a point to have the violence be blunt and gruesome.
No.27987
>>27983did we watch the same show lol
No.27989
>>27988Of course this MCU shit is on an anti homeless people bench
No.28012
>>28002they're both reddit
also not television
No.28031
>>27979Did WW finish good? I will be watching this new one on Sunday
>>27980>>27988It absolutely is a squeakwel
The amount of random focus on her feet…
I HATE THE HOLLYWOOD FEET CABAL, I HATE THEM
The first episode also name dropped "dialectical"
Is that what it means? Holding two opposing truths at the same time?
Is that the same thing Marx is talking about? Helgian and all that?
No.28032
>>28031>Did WW finish good?Absolutely not. Season 4 was showing signs of potentially going somewhere with its story but the final episode or two have major signs of being hastily rewritten due to the Warner-Discovery merger and anticipating either potential cancellation or hard negotiations for renewal and budget (still hasn't been renewed yet, when it had been by previous season finales). One of the most obvious aspects of this was how
every single main character besides Christina Dolores got abruptly killed off within the last 2 episodes, but in a way that the show could arbitrarily bring back whichever actors the show can afford in the next season. The season's plot with Bernard was dubious to begin with given that's now how simulations really work but what the "golden path" turned out to be is riddled with obviously better alternatives.
For a show that's supposed to be global at this point (and that keeps moving back and forth between NYC and the Hoover Dam like they're in the same neighborhood), everything is extremely narrow in focus and limited in scope. It became apparent in season 3 that the production process became dominant in determining the direction of the show, with the writing trailing behind, and that seems to be more the case in season 4. We got this location and we want to have this set piece, but how do we get there? Who cares, lol. Just get there. They are definitely coasting on good will they got from season 1 and 2, hoping people will cope their way into liking whatever they drop next. Feel kind of bad for the people working on shows like this who put a lot of effort into doing a good job but are working with a bad framework. At least they're getting paid for it.
No.28033
I gotta say it's charming how much of a hero's spirit saul goodman has
Like he tries to do the right thing as much as he can, He has good in him
No.28036
>>28031DBT is, surprisingly, a real thing though
No.28037
>>28035>i can't tell what year it takes place inI like when they do that.
No.28040
>>28037why you sicko,
why do you enjoy floating in space and time, unaware of reality
No.28091
>>28090they got the normies again with GoT smh
No.28094
first episode of the GoT prequel was very forgettable
No.28095
>>28076nathan fielder is supposed to be like an autistic guy, and you're supposed to laugh at him for being autistic, i think
No.28106
The golden age of US animation is over again
insert soyjack
No.28168
>>28158i'll do you one better and not watch it all
did y'all hear how hbo and wb lost like 20 billion trying to save 3 billion? 😂🤣😭
they can only release 2 movies this year hahahaha
No.28169
>>28152I was very surprised and that thought it was a cool casting until I realised this is Kripke and they both worked on Supernatural
Who do you think he's gonna play?
Maybe Soldier Boy's dad in a flashback
No.28170
>>28169That was my first thought but IDK if Jensen Ackles will be back, and it wouldn't make sense for him to appear as his dad otherwise
unless he got super powers later in life and became slow to age once he was already old. No.28174
>>28167><mfw watching she-hulk and bcs and continuously seeing foot fetish fanservice for the 103rd time in a row>she-hulk foot fetish fanserviceproof? for a friend
No.28175
>>28167>she hulk does foot fetishdo they even need to?
The character has transformation/inflation and green skin built into it.
It should have muscle girl built in too but here we are. No.28194
>>28172yeah that would be cool
>>28174episode 1 had multiple times her being bare feet
and episode 2 again they had her take her feet out
and bcs well, i've watched 6 episodes and only the last one with mike, i think had no ff
or else every episode it's
>hahah kim, do you want a pedicure!?? 🤪 No.28195
>>28193Does Amazon produce The Boys or Does Sony?
No.28196
>>28170Jensen Ackles said that whenever he asks him, He'll be back in that suit for him
No.28206
>>28205that was the worst show i've seen, i'm sorry for wasting your time and i'm sorry for wasting my own time.
No.28210
>>28158I hope it gets morbed.
No.28211
So I haven't watched She-Hulk because I value my time (at least a little lol) but apparently the cringe woke rant she goes on in the first episode was supposed to be cringe so that she can have character development and people bitching about it are taking it out of context because the show agrees with them that Jen was posting cringe.
>>28204It's funny how in the episode that she directs there's a prominent foot shot near the beginning.
No.28213
why are people so weird about feet now
i don't mean the foot fetish people but the anti-foot fetish people
if you're not turned on by feet you're just seeing pictures of feet, something which most people already have
who cares
No.28219
>>28204Lmao those bastards
>>28168Nice
No.28223
>>28221>It was kind of uncharted territory.>"If I'm gonna watch a show called 'She-Hulk,' I want to see She-Hulk." That kind of was the carte blanche to just write it however I wanted.>There were a lot of things that then had to be changed at the last minute to go from She-Hulk to Jen.>I'm not totally convinced that they know how to make television yet.simply lol
Very revealing stuff. This is the way that CGI animators have always been treated, "trying to get the most amount of stuff, in the least amount of time, for the least amount of money." Maybe they are too confident after successfully organizing all those movies and just don't respect that TV works differently. Interesting insight into the business.
No.28225
FUCK CHUCK
CLASSIST PIECE OF ELITISTS SHITHEAD
I could tell already when he kept telling saul to "work your way up" he was a conservative, shithead that he thinks it's the 1940s era of capitalism
I hope he kills himself that whiny little baby now that jimmy won't deliver him stuff
No.28258
I watched house of the dragon and saw a man's ass and some cut up flesh
Not watching it anymore
The main girl seems interesting but not enough to see that
>>28257What is so sexy here to foot fetishist, What can you jack off to here
It's just toes, The calves look more well defined than the feet
No.28259
>>28258It's just a fetish bro.
No.28279
>>28266She was always hot and she's always been annoying. Walt being a piece of shit doesn't make her not annoying or vice versa.
virgin side pickers vs CHAD nuance enjoyers
No.28280
>>28236Yeah Jimmy only ever had one real friend whose only fun in life was being le ebin prankster, and got to have one last ride with Jimmy, but Jimmy feels guilty about it for the rest of his life. Arguably it's what starts his mantra that eventually you forget (you don't). Part of why Jimmy kept going back to scams is because it was a coping mechanism that distracted him from his grief and guilt.
No.28282
>>28281They got Doctor Who from Morbius in it?
No.28283
>>28281I wouldn't call Matt Smith ugly. More like strange looking. It fits the character. So does Milly Alcock's unusual face. Too bad she's going to be replaced when the character gets older.
Paddy Considine is honestly distracting. He's a good actor but he looks too much like some guy from the pub to really sell the "king from ancient dynasty" look. Maybe it fits him being bad at ruling lol.
It's too early to say how I feel about the show since it's still mostly setting things up. Doesn't compare too well to early GoT. There were some very strong character building scenes in the first few episodes of GoT that we aren't getting an equivalent to.
No.28284
>>28281He's not ugly he's just British
No.28285
>>28281Every time I see Matt Smith I am took out of it, I didn't mind him in The Crown, he seemed to fit there, but here I can't buy him as a tyrant warrior prince
No.28286
Who in the right mind would pay some dollars a month to see Breaking Bad when you have Metastasis complete on youtube
>>28281He was made for the role. Great for him
No.28289
>>28281When GoT came out the costumes were outstanding for television, nowadays for expensive productions it's kind of standard.
It feels like fan service but the chemistry between the actors feels much worse compared to early GoT. In GoT the dynamic between the actors and characters worked from episode one. Also I am mad that GRRM just decided to bury ASOIAF for good because let's be honest, HoD is gonna run for four seasons at least because everyone is gonna force themselves to watch it because of GoT nostalgia.
For me it's too much Targaryans, too much dragon shit. Why do they have to go back so far? It would have been fine to make a show on Robert's Rebellion.
However, I expect it to be better than the Tolkien show that is about to come out on Prime.
No.28290
>>28289>For me it's too much Targaryans, too much dragon shit. Why do they have to go back so far? It would have been fine to make a show on Robert's Rebellion.They are giving people the spectacle of muh dragons to try to build up an audience before they expand into a GoT
cinematic TV universe. Gurm is on record about the latter part btw. He wants to do a sequel about Jon Snow for god knows what reason.
No.28291
>>28277she was literally just a mom, a woman married to a kingpin
we all had heated heisenberg moment during the summer of 2013
No.28292
>>28279what is something annoying she did? i don't remember
>>28280so that death is the entire catalyst? damn
i'm on s02e1 and he's got a sweet new job, i cannot imagine how he fucks it up
every time watching bcs, you just think
what is it the moment or thing that's gonna make jimmy into saul
No.28296
>>28295Is it that bad? I've got it on my list.
No.28299
>>28296I just saw a John Brown chop a guy's head off, I'm too scared to watch now
Idk they showed him based but depends on perspective if you think they're showing him as a lunatic
No.28300
>>28299jokes on them I like lunatics
No.28301
>>28292>what is something annoying she did? i don't rememberStereotypical "nagging housewife" stuff, like talking to Walt like he was a child even though he had won a Nobel prize. The fact that Vince didn't understand why people thought she was annoying makes me think the writers were unintentionally replicating those stereotypes. Almost all the women in BrBa feel a little too much like sexist stereotypes at times.
No.28302
>>28289>It feels like fan service but the chemistry between the actors feels much worse compared to early GoT.Yeah I noticed this, also the characters just seem kind of weak, don't know if it's the dialog or direction or what
No.28304
>>28302Probably the fact that the source material is written like a history book and the show has to fill in a lot of blanks regarding character, compared to GoT where you have a lot of direct portrayal of the characters, including inner monologue for the POV characters that you can use to flesh them out.
No.28305
>>28304can't they get actual good writers to fill in those blanks though?
No.28306
>>28305They could, but did they?
No.28307
>>28305>>28306Also, writing and fleshing out a character takes time. Books that were published over decades have a lot more time to put into characters, regardless of how good your writers are.
To compare, Matthew McConaughey wrote a 450 page book about his character Rust Cohle in True Detective season 1 in order to map out his personality and character development over the course of the series. This kind of thing isn't just something you can come up with if you're super duper clever. It takes time.
No.28308
I think the new LoTR show might fail,
Idk if it's because HBO has already invested in their stuff for a long time, but they produced a show like this and got 10mil viewers on second episode and renewed S2
While Netflix and Amazon are investing 30 million and 60 million per episode for their new shows respectively
Granted Stranger Things S4 was a success, but with both of these other shows, about a prequel, medivial show? Idk, only one might live
Remember that expensive marco polo show a few time ago that amazon made? I don't
No.28309
>>28307>Matthew McConaughey wrote a 450 page book about his character Rust Cohle in True Detective season 1i've heard of character scrapboooks but damn,,
legalized fanfiction,
did they ever publish it or tell us what the story is about?
No.28322
>The series' characters draw from a number of real Nazi hunters through the decades, but are not meant to be a specific representation of any of them.[4] It follows a diverse band of Nazi hunters living in 1977 New York City who discover that Nazi war criminals are conspiring to create a Fourth Reich in the U.S.[5] A parallel plot element is the discovery of Operation Paperclip, the U.S. government operation relocating many German scientists (many of them Nazis) to the U.S.
Hunters 2020, I'm gonna see it
No.28350
>>28344The show has not exactly been subtle about its politics. It's mostly stuck to exploring social issues but anti-capitalism has been a clear undertone the entire time.
Joker has been doing a good guy arc since season 2 or something. He fell into the vat of toxic waste again and it turned him normal, and he ended up becoming a wholesome suburban dad because he lost all his joker memories. Then he fell into the toxic waste again and he started trying to reconcile the two personas. The result was that he ran for mayor of Gotham as a socialist. First thing he did was fire Commissioner Gordon (who dropped out of the race after being convinced he was a bad candidate) and say he was going to disband the police.
That was last episode, new episode this week.
>>28326It's supposed to be extremely bad lol
No.28354
So I'm currently going Babylon 5 for the first time. Man, the show is really great, some true boomer-liberal kino, which is always cool to see. However I just finished War Without End and I am really unsure about the show. For what its worth, the double-bill was amazing in how it tied Sinclairs story up and had a well done time loop. But… I think the future scenes with possessed Londo were a huge fucking mistake. Maybe the show will pull "its just one possible future card", but I doubt it, and as it stands these scenes almost ruin the show by basically setting in stone that…
>They beat the main Shadow force
>Londo and G'kar both die then and there, confirming that Londo will fuck up to prevent his visions from coming true
>This all gives infinate plot armor to basically the entire current cast
Like, okay, the show did prove that I can trust it to do great writting even when it seems dubious at first before, so I hope for some sort of twist, or that maybe Sheridan won't go to Zah'ha'dum, but again, I doubt it sonehow, and thus I feel as if all the drama and conflict has just been accidentally sucked dry.
Hope I'm proven wrong. Wonder if some of you who watched B5 can share your thoughts on this episode. Just no spoilers please.
No.28370
>>28350>but anti-capitalism has been a clear undertone the entire time.damn, i gotta pick this show up again
No.28375
>>28373are there more scawwy headchopping scenes??
ethan hawke is so fun to watch, i wish there was a supercut of all his scenes as john brown
No.28378
>>28375Yeah there's quite a bit of gore but I didn't think it detracted from it or really added onto it, it's just there. If you mean is there any more scenes where John Brown goes ham and slices motherfuckers? I believe there is a few, I think. The only one I can think of right now is him using a sword on a slaveowner.
>i wish there was a supercut of all his scenes as john browndoes this count?
No.28383
>>28378Is it really whitewashed? IIRC the author of the novel which the show was based on is black lol
No.28384
>>28383>>28373sorry meant to reply this post
No.28385
>>28383>>28384Whitewashed not in the racial sense, I mean, the historical & political sense - that's why I questioned whether it was the right word or not, sorry for any confusion.
No.28386
>>28383>>28385Whitewashed isn't about race, or at least the original meaning wasn't. It's mostly America where it took on the newer meaning. It's originally referring to a type of cheap white paint used to cover things up.
No.28399
>>28395This is white genocide.
No.28421
>>28395>She was doing these kinds of jokes long before Deadpool copied the 4th wall breaking and pop culture reference schtickYou just gave a redditor somewhere a heart attack
I've watched the scene so many times, I wish Megan Thee Stallion was real
Goddamn I've never seen the comment section of a video seethe so much, These are the same people who read comics? Where men wear tights and quip?
>>28390I cannot believe Slippin' Jimmy is real, It legit feels like an alt-universe meme that became real
That fuckin' big mouth, streaming adult animation artstyle
I need someone to make an essay on it, I'm scared to watch it
>>28399based
No.28424
>>28395I didn't see this while watching the episode was it a post-credits thing? I don't doubt a lot of the seething is because they heckin' hate women, but tbh it is fucking cringe 'how do you do, fellow kids' shit, like if deadpool were dabbing and doing some fortnite dance from 3 years ago.
>>28421>I've watched the scene so many times, I wish Megan Thee Stallion was realIs this pasta?
Anyone seen the new lord of the rings show yet? Is it mediocre or decent or LiTeRaL wHiTe GeNoCiDe?
No.28425
>>28395Alright it's less obnoxious than when I saw it yesterday, now that I've had time to process it.
It's a humor style that works better in comic form I think.
No.28426
>>28424>was it a post-credits thing?Yes.
>like if deadpool were dabbing and doing some fortnite dance from 3 years ago.People were also butthurt about somebody doing a fortnite dance in Endgame. Idk who, just that people were butthurt over it.
>Anyone seen the new lord of the rings show yet?Only comment I saw was /tv/ spamming OH LAWD DEM RANGS etc.
don't think anybody is even hate watching it.
>>28421>I wish Megan Thee Stallion was realUh… she is?
Do you not remember WAP?
No.28428
>>28424There is no lord of the rings show, What are you talking about? No such thing
MakeBezosBankrupt
The only thing I heard from watching a breakdown vid is that they don't even have rights for the tolkeins books, so they're basing most of it on the appendix and foreword, and making Cate Blanchett's character's the main lead as they have rights for her,
They don't even mention the names for some of the characters because of this, like her brother
>>28426Ayo who was fortnite dancing in Endgame lmfao, I want to know
No.28430
>>28426>Uh… she is?>Do you not remember WAP?Yeah, I remember Well Armed Proletariat
It's a meme, It's like when someone watches Luca and says "I wish italians were real"
No.28434
Anyone watch the new LOTR? Holy shit was it boring and formulaic. Really makes you respect how much Jackson was able to convey with Fellowship, which has the same run time I think. Pop culture is so much worse compared to even 20 years ago.
No.28435
>>28424Oh, it was very mediocre. The "white genocide" is that there are black dwarves and humans. There's a very on the nose plot about a black elf suffering racism at the hands of humans, but the overall feeling is one of being generic and not woke. Apparently the elfs are occupying human lands to protect against the Doom returning or something? I found it hard to follow and was on my phone most of the time.
No.28444
>>28439it is anticapitalist in that vague way that a lot of shows are, it's alright overall, I wouldn't recommend watching it alone though, when riffing with friends it's alright
No.28456
>>28439it is anti-capitalist a bit, but with the inclusion of the nk character, idk if it was appeasement for SK censors or a socdem approach to anti-capitalism
idk, it's a good horror drama to watch with someone
No.28457
I feel like they've written themselves into a corner with the endings of Boys S3,
Blackmails where the main drive of moving the plot,
Now they've lost it all along with Craplander's main fear
How and where will it go now
>>28441yeah, lmao
No.28458
>>23336
this is the videogame space pirate from halo
i don't get it, he quoted stuff about revolution
the shocker does not explain hegelian dialectics well
No.28518
the most unconvincing part of BCS is that kim and jim (hey that rhymes lol) are film buffs
I'm sorry it's just feels like the writers talking
No.28553
>>28457>I feel like they've written themselves into a corner with the endings of Boys S3… how and where will it go nowIDK, but I'm willing to bet that (and spoilers from this point on, obviously)
Ryan will have an arc where he realises that he kind of enjoys being evil, but will ultimately either come to the good side or have to sacrifice himself to save the Boys, possibly probably by fighting Homelander. That won't happen all in the next series tho, I expect they'll try to drag it out over the next two or three.
Also, I suspect that
Queen Maeve got pregnant when she fucked Butcher, and their child will turn up in a future season. Otherwise that scene was kind of pointless.
No.28571
MY NORMS, MY PRECIOUS NORMS
I can't take BCS seriously if it's just going to be this stupid, rich people shit and their "ethics"
Like in the end, I'm not gonna think Jimmy's gonna pay for his "crimes" if it's just going to be crap like this
I don't see him doing anything wrong
No.28572
>>28553That would be hilarious, Fight of the Supersons
It's wild how they've already started filming S4, I guess they did S3 when covid happened and got delayed until now
No.28585
>>28457I sort of disliked the ending of S2 too but this finale was such a disappointment. What can they even do at this point? That Soldier Boy shit went nowhere besides giving Ackles the chance to say some funny lines.
In the comics Homelander remained a menace till the end, absolutely crushing Maeve. Now he apparently can barely hold himself against Butcher on TempV. So, the entire threat and urgency of the situation is pretty much done unless they pull out an even stronger supe but Homelander and Soldier Boy were already supposed to be strongest.
With A-Train and Deep they just did a reset on them. I guess they gonna get side quests again in S4 that will again ultimately end up nowhere.
No.28586
>>28434Meh, I don't think the LOTR movies aged well.
No.28630
>>28598your honor my client was just roughousing on an imageboard
this was not a legal threat, he didn't include "<3"
No.28671
She-Hulk S1E4, "Armpit Fanservice"
Critical Support to Donny Blaze, You can't copyright magic
No.28696
>>28585>That Soldier Boy shit went nowhere besides giving Ackles the chance to say some funny lines.Spoilers for this, obviously
I disagree. The Soldier Boy shit was all about daddy issues and toxic masculinity, and he served his purpose in that sense. Butcher was turned into an asshole by his father, but has to open up to save Hughey and try to get Ryan back. That's basically his entire arc for s3.Soldier Boy is the very definition of boomer masculinity. Has PTSD but refuses to admit it, sees any sign of affection as weakness, and if it's between men it's just written off by him as "gay".He even turns on his own son, Homelander, because he opens up (in a weird kind of way) towards Ryan (and probably because despite being the world's most powerful man, he looks and acts like a pampered actor). I've seen some people say that he attacked Homelander because of the deal he made with Butcher, but nah.That was Soldier Boy's purpose, and he served it wonderfully.
No.28702
>>28696Soldier Boy's attitude toward affection vs sexuality is also interesting. He makes a lot of references to what might be considered "degenerate" fucking as something he seems to think is fairly normal, but he recoils from pretty much any form of affection or emotional openness. In that sense he's also depicting the way a lot of men in western society are taught to channel all their feelings into either violence or sex.
No.28711
>>28702That's interesting but what does he consider sex to be? Pleasure?
No.28726
>>28696Furthering the boomer masculinity allegory, he never actually stormed Normandy and saw the horrors of war, but pretends he did and touts that he copes with the horrors by not being “a fucking pussy” like the new generation.
No.28757
>>28726Oh yeah I forgot about this, he's a fucking poser too lol. Another reason for him to be insecure
No.28758
>>28711Yeah, I'd imagine so. Nothing to do with love or real passion, hence how the scene with him and the older ladies was treated. Pure physical sensation, none of that sissy emotional shit, as he may have put it.
No.28767
>>28751>Who is Chopped for?It's just daytime TV shit. Formulaic nonsense you can put on in the background and not miss anything important while you do household chores or whatever.
No.28785
>>28629> posemaniacsare you /ic/ fag by any chance
No.28795
>>28785No, but I've heard of it, there are so many drawing boards
>>28758>one of that sissy emotional shitI read this in his voice lol
No.28796
>>28795what other ones are good, im a learning /beg/
No.28799
>>28796no there's like an artwork and critique one, then the regular i one nad then there's also graphic design
really twitter also has a big art community
we on hobby also had 2-3 threads, i asked a question about drawing tablets there
>/beg/what is that?
No.28800
>>28799>>28796Also thoughts and prayers for the incoming A.I shitstorm into the art world
No.28801
>>28799/beg/ is beginner
ic is art and critique
No.28814
anyone watching primal, first season was kinda a slog but this season is really good now that there is an actual plot. animation is really well done too.
No.28815
>>28751Idk but watch Halloween wars, that shit slaps
No.28816
>>28814I loved the first season, as well as the second.
They’re both good for different reasons.
No.28817
>>28814Primal is great.
I thought the first season was fine but I prefer a season arc. In the grand scheme I think the show evolving like that is a good idea and was probably their intention from the start. Them being able to pivot from a pretty strictly episodic season to one with a well defined arc (with more than one major antagonist, even) is pretty impressive from a writing and production standpoint. Few shows can handle changing up the formula like that. It was originally conceived as an anthology show, and I think they said they might conclude the current story and have more variety in any future seasons. I'd still like to occasionally see episodes with the current characters, assuming their story doesn't have a downer ending (which given this series it might). The episode where
it's randomly in 1800s England was probably them dipping their toes in the water to see how people responded to shifting the focus.
It's also impressive how much depth they have given these characters without using dialogue. My favorite moment in the show was definitely all the character moments in the part where
Fang lays her new eggs and the parts before and after where Spear and Mira help. It mostly has excellent animation, but you can tell that in one particular episode the animators were pushed to their limits (Genndy said so himself) because characters' injuries don't persist through the fight when they normally do. It's where they
find the "viking" village and are forced to fight them all. They are definitely putting in the work to make good stuff, and the show has been critically acclaimed, so hopefully it gets renewed. IDK what the ratings are like.
No.28818
>>28815>Halloween Wars is an American reality competition series from Super Delicious, the production company that also produces Cupcake Wars and Cake Wars. It premiered on October 2, 2011, on Food Network and it runs over the course of four weeks in October annually. The show pits five teams made up of cake sculptors, sugar artists, and pumpkin carvers against each other to produce the ultimate Halloween themed display. The winning team is awarded $50,00Amazing, you watch it?
No.28827
the new lotr show is too high fantasy and GoT is intriguing but too disturbing
what is a boy to do?
what do y'all do when distressing content in TV?
Do you keep watching and put yourself through it or turn off or do you just skip those scenes?
No.28828
>>28827also is the new got actually more fucked up than the old one? feels like it
this one straight up got pedo storyliness
No.28830
>>28819it is amusing though reading reddit comments where everyone is like #girlboss. i interpreted it as her kind of passing on the trauma of her uncle (not)raping her
No.28833
>>28827>what do y'all do when distressing content in TV? It's fake so I don't really care tbh. Idk what to say to someone who's bothered by it except remember it's fake. That's what I did as a kid when scary stuff on TV did bother me.
>>28828>also is the new got actually more fucked up than the old one? feels like itThey said it was gonna be darker, and given the source material it makes sense.
>this one straight up got pedo storylinessWell yeah that's medieval marriages for you. IIRC Rhaenyra is supposed to be 17 at this point in the show, but was 13 at this point in the books. They have been doing time skips between each episode so far.
No.28851
Guess we gotta watch White Lotus, its winning so many Emmys
Underrated?
No.28852
>>28833i'm not excited for the timeskip, the rahenyra actress is fine, is the actress replacing her has some big shoes to fill (looking like a weird and distinct royal)
No.28856
they're doing some kind of law and order mutiverse special..
No.28859
finished watching the first ep, idk what makes it got so intriguing than lotr, the politics?
that at the end, it's mostly still humans with some magical elements
so the targeryon aren't actually special race that can control the dragons but just bullshitted that into the mythos?
i thought it was going to take seasons for her to become the heir but neat
i gotta read up on valeria and balerian, did the dragons burn down their old
rahenyra is the great grandmother of danerys?
No.28860
Embedding error.
the indian office remake is little stale, but i can't believe something with "disney" in the name released in the modern age was so blatantly offensive shit
surprised there wasn't a controversy in india
No.28862
>>28859>finished watching the first ep, idk what makes it got so intriguing than lotr, the politics?Haven't seen the lotr show nor will I but I assume it's cliche fantasy tropes because for some weird copyright reason they are limited in what source material they can adapt.
>so the targeryon aren't actually special race that can control the dragons but just bullshitted that into the mythos? The Targs around at the time of the show are kind of like the Eastern Roman Empire, who survived the rest of the empire collapsing (but much fewer of them). It's not entirely clear how controlling the dragons work, but it's apparently something to do with their blood. Other than that they are just people with an unusual appearance. They have a master race meme going on since forever and especially after they conquered Westeros.
>i thought it was going to take seasons for her to become the heir but neatThey are moving real fuckin fast, but I think the book covers multiple generations so that makes sense.
>i gotta read up on valeria and balerian, did the dragons burn down their oldIt's a mystery what happened to Valyria, and there are lots of theories. We know it basically blew up like Pompeii but much bigger.
>rahenyra is the great grandmother of danerys?The family tree is probably spoilers lol. Idk.
>>28860Bruh are they really just copying the same bits from burger TV in the 00s?
No.28872
>>28862Ig, I haven't seen this
There was also an adaption of Everybody Loves Raymond, but that one was good and meshed both the cultural mythos well, the original creator was involved for that
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They gotta unionize the dragonkeepers, Those people guys look like they get burnt by the dragons daily trying to control them
Excited to see where the show is going if you say it's going to cover multiple generations
I'm not complaining but why did he write a prequel book before finishing the actual series he started, It's fun tho
I have no memory if a woman actually ever becomes queen of Westores
btw is there a world beyond westores? other kingdoms or is it all just piratesand slavedoms
No.28883
>>28872>They gotta unionize the dragonkeepers, Those people guys look like they get burnt by the dragons daily trying to control themI'm pretty sure in the books they are supposed to be cool and valued members of society (for obvious reasons) but when we saw them in the show it looked like they were covered in dragon shit lol.
>Excited to see where the show is going if you say it's going to cover multiple generationsSaw somebody say season 1 should cover
25 years.
>I'm not complaining but why did he write a prequel book before finishing the actual series he started, It's fun thoWriter's block I guess. Each book in the main series gets bigger and more complicated and he says he gets stuck. As a creative kind of person I think he's hoping to stimulate more creativity for his writing by doing other projects (which is better than just staring at a blank page until you get ideas). But he might just be procrastinating lol.
>I have no memory if a woman actually ever becomes queen of WestoresBoth under Targaryen rule and after Robert's Rebellion.>btw is there a world beyond westores?There's 3 known continents. Essos to the east gets less well defined the farther east you go. I don't think it's defined how big it is, but there's mention of places very far east. Sothoryos to the south is pretty vague and mysterious. Lots have speculated there's more to the west (including Arya Stark in the actual show) so that's likely.
https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Known_world No.28909
>>28883I hope if asoiaf ever finishes up they show of the other regions of the world too,
all this stuff is based on the english, welsh stuff
wonder how the other parts of this place has developed
No.28921
>>28909GRRM goes full American when he describes Essos, not so sure if I need to see it. He basically describes it as a degenerate cruel hellscape where they eat puppies on a stick.
No.28961
>>28921I'm pretty sure he doesn't
No.28969
>>28957>>28961The "cooked puppies on a stick" is an actual line from the books. Don't make me dig it up.
No.28976
>>28969Burgers eat veal so I don't think it's that egregious tbh.
No.29014
What do you think it is that makes Breaking Bad more talked about or (better?) than the other 2010s dramas of it's time?
Boardwalk Empire, Deadwood, don't live on pop culture anymore, Not that it's a judgement or shows a quality of a series
Is it because it had an equally acclaimed spin-off?
The only old show I still see talked like that is Sopranos, Is it pure chaos?
That both these shows still remain being talked and discussed, I don't see anything particularly special in them than their adversaries
No.29015
>>28991ffs, i just..
>EVERYTHING WILL GET A SPIN-OFF, EVERY FRANCHISE AND MEDIA WILL GET A PREQUEL, AN OFFSHOOT, AN ANTHOLOGY SERIES, AN ANIMATED SERIES, ALL THE VARIETIESRegardless of their eventual quality, it's just so bad, like porky is scared of their chances that they'll only invest their production capablities to things with pre-existing fanbases and IPs only
Books will be written to made into TV shows soon enough
No.29019
>>29015The next generation of Art generating AI will be used to directly transform books into movies, studios and acotrs no longer needed, maximum profits!
No.29024
>>29014>What do you think it is that makes Breaking Bad more talked about or (better?) than the other 2010s dramas of it's time?Jessie Pinkman is trans
No.29027
>>29014BrBa has a certain level of un-pretentiousness to it. It started out with a small team of people and a shoestring budget pretty much. Other shows like Boardwalk Empire (which is also good but for different reasons) make it clear that they think they are prestige TV. They are up their own ass to a degree an usually are about people who are supposed to be cool (prohibition era crime lords in that example). BrBa on the other hand is about a regular guy who gets involved in crazy shit because of his determination and skillset. On that level it's both more approachable and it sells an escapist fantasy that almost seems like it could really happen.
>Is it because it had an equally acclaimed spin-off?That certainly helped, but it's worth pointing out BCS has the same thing going on. The characters have enough of a hook to them to be interesting (Jimmy being a compulsive con artist, Chuck being a legal savant but also a manipulative narcissist with a fake disease, etc) but are still portrayed as if they are real people with real problems and foibles. The point of contrast is that the other shows tend to go for a more… "Shakespearean?" approach, where the characters are supposed to be grand portrayals of human virtues and vices rather than people unto themselves. That approach can still make for a good story, but the characters lack the texture that they need to be really relatable and gripping to an audience.
tl;dr I think a lot of it comes down to audiences strongly preferring a naturalistic style.
>SopranosNever really watched it but I think that it's probably a similar situation where the down-to-earth portrayal of the characters (and Tony Soprano going to the shrink) makes them seem more relatable and realistic.
No.29029
>>29024>JESSE, YOU HAVE TO STOP COOKING TESTOSTERONE, I AM THE ONE WHO COOKS>>29027Huh, never thought about it like that, The other shows like Succession which is pretty much a King Lear adaption for the modern age,
Game of Thrones too might apply to that theory, It was popular, and after it ended talk of it pretty much stopped until HOTD came back up again, I don't know much about Westworld if that theory applies
Euphoria tho… That remains to be seen, It's not really Shakespearean but is not naturalistic I would say,
We'll see in the future
No.29030
>>29029>Game of Thrones too might apply to that theory, It was popular, and after it ended talk of it pretty much stopped until HOTD came back up againThat's more because the show ended disastrously and people wanted to forget. HotD might just help wash the bad taste out of people's mouths. I think you have to judge fantasy and sci fi by different standards though. Plenty of people like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, etc. and those characters are much more "archetypes" than believable as people.
No.29053
>>29027The performances certainly help BrBa. Cranston is a really good actor (and I discovered recently that he was the English VA for Isamu Dyson in Macross Plus, which is pretty neat). It also helps that Cranston has a good out of film reputation. People seem to like him, and as a casual Cranston Enjoyer™ I haven't heard anything bad about him. I'd imagine that that contributes to the show's longevity, Cranston not being a rapist or something else which puts a bad taste in people's mouths.
No.29054
>>29053Bryan Cranston was Kenneth's dad from 30 rock and also in Malcom in the Middle
No.29057
>>29053> macross plus vadamn that is neat. such a good movie.
No.29096
Just finished the penultimate episode of S4 Babylon 5. Only 1 season, a shit ton of movies and a miniseries left, so I guess I'm at least two-thirds done.
But man oh man, I don't think I have ever seen a show - no, scratch that - any piece of media that has been fucked over so extremely hard by external factors. And despite all that, it still carries through, although it definitely carries a smell of being a little bit burnt. Just for the record, here's all the shit that went bad for the show as far as I'm aware:
>Got postponed for a year after the pilot
>Postponing resulted in the kicking out of 2 main characters and 1 semi-main character, but it was still only after the pilot so it didn't really felt as a major thing
>Main star turns out to be a schizophrenic paranoiac who constantly causes filming issues, has to leave after one season with impossibly large shoes to fill
>Replacement actor is… well some people like him but in my view he is a bit shit in comparison to Sinclair, and the rewriting of the main plot just barely manages to make everything fit in place
>The semi-main character actor replacement gets pissy over not being one of the main characters and leaves for a shitty cop show, resulting in a complete and total axing of her entire character story and plotlines, they have to wheel in the former actor to replace her
>Discounting this, there are also quite a few times of characters randomly using walking canes or just-so-happens'ing into breaking their arms that you can't stop but think that they probably all broke something multiple times IRL
>One of the main characters has to go through multiple different assistants that get killed off-screen because their actors couldn't handle the discomfort of wearing Narn makeup
>And worst of all, the entire fourth season gets turbo-fucked by ADHD storyline because the studio didn't allow for season five until the last possible moment, resulting in a clumsy and rushed "last" season that while good, clearly seems as if it could have been way better with more time
I am quite excited for what the actual last season holds. Because sadly I was somewhat disappointing with season 4, even though it was focused on the Earth arc, which was for me the most interesting story that the show had up its sleeve. Its funny, for me still the best episode remains double one Point of No Return and Severed Dreams from Season 3, and I somewhat doubt that the spooky scary Drakh and the yucky yucky Keepers are going to hold up to that, but time will tell. And War Without End still hangs over the show like a turd - because it either totally and completely spoils the end for the Centauri story, as well as for Gkar and Londo, or it is just shit writing with happy-go-lucky time travel where the future can be changed if you really want.
And finally I have to add that I feel real smart for figuring out that Garibaldi was mind-controlled by PsiCorp to fuck over Edgars many episodes before it was confirmed.
No.29099
>>29096I'm about halfway through season 5 now. The last time I'd seen it was when I was a kid, back when it originally came out.
In some ways it's still really good, but in others it definitely hasn't aged well. I'm kind of interested in the reboot, because I think there's still a great story there that can be enhanced with modern graphics, hopefully not having all the production issues that the original series had, and cutting the fat from the 90s television format.
And hopefully this time they don't let the fucking fascists off so fucking easily.
No.29103
>>27978I could've saved him…
No.29104
>>29103It hurts, doesn't it?
No.29106
>>29099>Let the fascists offI think that was actually good writting, but kind of scuffed by the general rush to put everything in S4. Like I got a really strong vibe that President Luchenko was basically Albert Speer, or perhaps more like those FRG politicians who had ties to NSDAP after the war. She saw where the wind was blowing and couped Clark on her own terms, making sure that it will only be the hardliners who will get purged under the pretext of maintaining unity, and not so much the "I just follower orders" crowd. And Sheridan is too idealistic and too much of a bleeding heart liberal to go and try to truly uproot the government. But maybe something else happens through out season 5 so I don't know.
Anyway, I think Clark and his administration were very facinating villains. Honestly I wouldn't even call them fash, despite the obvious paralels, as they are just way too apolitical outside of very basic populist sabre rattling. They struck me as being a collection of power-hungry interest groups hell bent on using every single method of control that we can see in how all their actions are one big gumbo pot of varios IRL examples of social control - McCarthy like red scare tactics, fascist like gestapo, Soviet like consignment of dissidents to psychiatric wards and so on. And at least to me, the way Clark got into power made me think there is some liberal conspiracybrain interpretation of LBJ in him as well. And it also seems like Clark, in a sort of Hitler paralel, went too crazy and paranoid in his megalomaniac desire to be the top dog, which in the end alienated the rest of his administration - first oligarchs like Edgars, and then the functionaries like Luchenko. Because realistically, all the power structures responsible for what happened survive, and (at least this is my guess of what would happen after seeing penultimate S4 episode) only the birth of the Interstellar Alliance would make them tone down, only because being part of the Alliance would be more beneficial to their interests.
No.29120
>>29106>I think that was actually good writtingIt's not unjustified, but at the same time I don't have to like it. I don't particularly like how Season 5 tries to justify it. I do think it's pretty significant how the consequences of not purging the fascists is shown to be the fascists resurging a few hundred years later and triggering a war between Earth and its colonies that sees Earth nuked back to the dark ages.
No.29138
>>29106>Soviet like consignment of dissidents to psychiatric wardsNo such thing
Those poor souls were suffering from sluggishy progressing schizophrenia
Symptoms tending to be obsession w/ freedumbs
No.29154
>>29096>>29120yo, babylon 5 is written by this same comic book writer J. micheal strayzncski
is his episodes/seasons good?
he has made some controversial comics choices, do they reflect in his show as well
No.29161
>>29154Have no clue on JMS's comics, but B5 is basically purely his own brainchild. He even control-freaked most of the dialogues in early seasons, or so the story goes, up to him getting mad at actors going just slightly off-script to add in a little line or quip.
I'd say the show is very good in theory, but bogged down by production issues. Also I think its glaring that JMS in an ur-liberal, but of the old kind of liberalism. The show isn't afraid to show the real cold hearted brutality of politics or war or the cycle of revenge, but still "great man (or women) of history" save the day and bring peace and understanding. I just watched a specific episode called Deconstruction of Falling Stars, the finale of S4, and it had an entire 10min segment that was basically JMS strawmaning and shitting on non-Great Man Theory historians. Asside from that, the only other problems I saw that was from directorial side, and not the production issue side, was that S1 was a bit shit with a ton of cheesy monster of the week episodes, and that on several ocassions JMS failed to stick the landing on epic moments.
Over all, the show is great once you digest Season 1, and definetly worth the watch.
No.29162
>>29161On an unrelated note, guess who just pushed out the queenie's funeral to #2 spot on twitter
https://twitter.com/straczynski/status/1571904992847568900?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5EtweetMan, what an interesting time to randomly decide watching the show for the first time.
No.29172
>>29161Yeah I noticed his libby politics in the Thor comics where he was sucking off Captain America and saw politics as a spectacle
>>29162Lol, they're re-airing the B5 for a reboot, damn
CW gutted almost all of their shows a few months ago
No.29183
I've only watched upto 2 seasons of KoTH and there was an anon said how the show's pretty conservative
I was reading online discourse about the show and people are arguing whether those characters would vote for drumpf or not
(Irrelevant as bourgeois elections are worthless)
But I'd think they would vote for him, would they not? Did I miss something in the show or do the characters develop even more,
Even if they learn lessons of tolerance, there are plenty of misguided people like the KoTH charactesr that would've voted, yes or no?
I would like to understand
No.29185
>>29183I think they'd vote for him. Dale would be full blown Schizo QAnon. Hank a little Eichmann. The show ran from like 99-Early Obama. A simpler time.
No.29186
>>29154On the whole, I'd say that, yeah, Babylon 5 is good. It shows its age in a lot of ways, in particular the PS1 era, ReBoot-esque graphics, and the way it tells its stories. There are episode guides for the early seasons if you just want to get the overarching plot and skip the standalone filler.
I'd say that its strong points are the overall cohesion of the storyline, some fun sci-fi/sci-fantasy stuff, and most of all its characters. G'kar and Londo both have great character arcs and are portrayed by a pair of fantastic actors
It's kind of a transitional work though, the halfway point between the sort of weekly standalone syndicated episode format and the sort of longform GoT-esque storytelling we have now. It was a standout production at the time, but by today's standards is seems pretty quaint in a lot of ways.
No.29191
>>29188God, this intro was absolute kino.
No.29280
THEY SHOWED HER FEET AGAIN, FULL TOE AND SOLES IN SHE-HULK
We were going strong, 3 whole episodes without it 😔
No.29281
>>29191My favourite was the suit he later in the episode
What music is playing in the clip
I hope the show goes a little deeper into why he he keeps wearing those flashy suits,
I want to read a good write-up on Saul Goodman's suits and the philosophy behind it
No.29293
New Vince Gilligan Sci-Fi show on Apple announced, they ordered 2 seasons of it already
Rhea Seehorn (of Whitney fame) starring
Have we seen him shows other than ones set in the Breaking Bad Universe?
All I know is he wrote some episodes of X-Files
No.29297
Currently watching sandman. The first 2-3 episodes were good. Everything since then has been really boring. Every episode is so meh, uneventful, irrelevant, and in the good moments the scenes just lack any depth, on multiple fronts. The only redeeming quality is production value. One of the episodes tries to do "quirky" with odd characters co-living in a house. It makes 0 sense in context with the series. Came out of nowhere and it just doesn't fit in with the rest of what we've seen.
Honestly I'm trying to like it really hard, but it's just not good.
No.29298
>>29297Have you read the sandman comic and the Mr.Sandman song
No.29300
>>29298Song yes, comic no.
No.29361
Finished S2 of BCS
Jimmy's brother is the literal embodiment of shit,
An elitist, Whiny, nasally prick
Fucking no wonder jimmy's mother was calling for him instead of the failson
What happened to him? This was even before whatever freak electricity accident happened to him
No.29364
>>29188Kino and based. Fuck those stuck-up dress code standards. Suits look like shit and mocking them like this is what they deserve.
>>29293>Have we seen [Vince Gilligan] shows other than ones set in the Breaking Bad Universe?>All I know is he wrote some episodes of X-FilesHe was an executive producer on X-Files actually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Gilligan#Television>>29297Didn't last 2 episodes tbh. Felt too much like teenage fanfic. Couldn't take Dream seriously at all.
>>29361>Fucking no wonder jimmy's mother was calling for him instead of the failson Jimmy was the failson lol. Chuck was very successful. But as his actor Michael McKean has said, Chuck made their mother proud but Jimmy made her smile/laugh. That's how he (the actor) saw the rivalry originally forming, that he was ambitious and tried to make mom proud but couldn't be charming and sweet like Jimmy. Chuck is an Intelligence build while Jimmy is a Charisma build, and he's butthurt about it because he wasn't the favorite.
No.29445
Every HBO show has been good, I can't imagine this one being bad
I gotta find out how to play TLoU on PC, Emulate it
>>29364If you can't make your parents happy with your mere presence, I think that makes you a failkid
Any donkey can earn dough
I'm gonna start S3 soon, I hope they show more of Jimmy childhood
>>29364>Kino and based. Fuck those stuck-up dress code standardsExactly, Like half of the show is just all these stuck-up lawyers having a stick up their ass
"YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!, YOU JUST CAN'T OKAY!!"
"YES, THE SYSTEM IS UNFAIR, B-BUT WE HAVE TO PLAY FAIR!!"
No.29460
>>28211Don't want to beat a dead horse but I saw this one and I couldn't repost it
>Banner: I shot myself in the mouth and the other guy spitted the bullet>She-Hulk: Yeah but being a gringo lawyer is harderGlorious, I don't hope it gets better since from a long time I desire the collapse of Disney
No.29476
>>26001>>26039The bottled water episode of Netflix's
Rotten docuseries is nuts.
>Nestle and other bottle water companies pretend their industry is displacing soda etc but it's actually displacing tap water>in a nutshell they are effectively destroying the natural resources involved in making water in order to turn it into a commodity, not just outcompeting tap water but unsustainably harvesting the water from aquifers while municipal water supplies deteriorate from lack of funding despite literally being orders of magnitude cheaper>Nestle's donations to Flint come from this other one small town (Evart) where some fucking rube just signed over water rights (he actually appears in the show to say he's pro-Nestle, instead of not agreeing to appear like someone with a brain)>bottled water has (almost) always been marketing hype>started as aquifer water as an alternative to river water which was contaminated by dumping waste in rivers, but sanitation of public water supplies made this obsolete>Perrier hired Orson Welles to shill their water, taking it from a niche market to a significant consumer product before Nestle bought them>Spring water is big commodity but there's not enough actual springs to meet demand, so Nestle lobbies the FDA to change the definition to include water pumped from aquifers>start pumping aquifers faster than they can recharge, which causes shrinking water supply for other people using the same sources (individuals, communities, and municipalities)>rivers and streams are drying up now because the aquifers that feed them are being over-pumped for bottled water>Nestle has been spreading their aquifer pumping operations everywhere they can in spite of protests and environmental protections (if one place stops them they will just find someone who will allow it), and this can still affect areas that keep the business out>Distrust in water infrastructure is a vicious cycle because less use of municipal water means less funding for it, which means less ability to maintain it.>Municipal water services have to contend with bad PR due to failures like Flint, Michigan along with marketing by bottled water companies that bottled water is safer>"People say well there's no money to fix water, but it turns out there is money to fix water AND we're already spending it on water but we're spending it on water one curshable plastic bottle at a time.">and bottled water costs orders of magnitude more than tap water, less than a penny per gallon vs a dollar per bottleBut that's just in the 1st world…
In the 3rd world, the heavily commodified water makes it harder for poor people to access water (largely because of the markup.
Lagos, Nigeria
>despite better than average natural water resources, Nigeria's capital Lagos has a water crisis. The water infrastructure is in literal ruins, making most people dependent on bottled water or generous rich people who can afford to drill into aquifers and give it away (even rich people there can't get good water from the system an rely on other methods)>even this water is not safe due to leaching from waste into the groundwater, and people frequently get sick from untested water>there's an entire economy and cottage industry of guys carrying water in jerry cans on carts to sell to people (literal Mad Max shit in the capital of the richest country in Africa RIGHT NOW)>for most Nigerians, one regular bottle of water is half a day's pay>Nestle's Pure Life™ brand specifically targets the 3rd world where they can't afford water, produced locally to be cheaper>Lagos has a garbage crisis from all the water being delivered in plastic bottles (only 10% of garbage is recycled, while the rest just piles up and washes into the water)>Lagos officials know the solution to the problem is water infrastructure, which they are developing (a treatment plant), but which is years behind because nobody is investing in the necessary pipes to deliver the water, and which would only serve about 5% of Lagos' population when completed.>Meanwhile Nestle actively markets to Nigeria that municipal water can't work.Manderegi, Nigeria
>Nestle sets up plant to pull water from local aquifer, right on top of an existing Nigerian village>now a road runs through the middle of it with heavy traffic>Nestle has a proomotion where they give water to the villagers for free (but only enough for half the population of the village), but they have to hike all the way to the water plant carrying water across a highway>despite the high tech industrial water extraction happening RIGHT THERE, the villagers still have to spend an hour a day carrying water from the spigots Nestle provides back to their homes, and the provided water source is four times as far as the river where they traditionally get water>even worse, the Nestle water plant dumps waste water back into the river the village uses as its water source, and after complaints Nestle said they commissioned an investiagtion that found the water's contents "compliant with regulatory norms" and the people continue having to drink itAnd of course the trend for the long term is that water is going to become dangerously scarce, so we can't afford to be fucking around with this kind of shit, wasting huge amounts of money and resources just so bottled water companies can make huge profits.
The availability of clean water has a clear class dynamic to it and we're looking down the barrel of a future where the rich drink $80 bottles of glacier-melt water while the poor are stuck drinking water full of industrial sludge or paying through the nose in an attempt to protect their safety.
No.29479
I hate TMDB
I was tracking an after documentary show for House of the Dragon for trakt.tv and it gets its data from there
And now it's just gone
Is there an alternative site?
No.29516
Has anyone watched "The Great"
Is this another monarchist uwu russian royalty garbage?
No.29541
>>29532That is basically what a lot of the comics are, depending on the run.
No.29544
>>29542Who gives a shit. They guy literally can't write anything of his own, he just reiterates cliches and tries to "subvert" them, but has not ability or knowledge to do so, so in the end it results in the same tired cliches.
No.29547
>>29544i don't like dan harmon either
but the prophecy has been fulfilled
six seasons and a movie… i hope they somehow bring in pierce
if the plot is sci-fi bullshit or paintball, i will fucking lose it,
i hate that shit so much in community, it's best when it's actually heartfelt about real life
it's always been a show about losers and outcasts, that's where it's strength always lied
i hope the kid named finger returns
No.29549
>>29547>if the plot is … paintball, i will fucking lose itThird time's the charm
>it's always been a show about losers and outcasts, that's where it's strength always liedYeah, but i think it forgot about that pretty quickly.
No.29550
>>29547>i hope they somehow bring in pierce YNB won't work with Chevy Chase after he went on a racist tirade.
No.29576
>>29549idk, season six was pretty grounded and about that part since all the main stars had left
jeff getting older and becoming part of the school instead of a student
fuck, the season finale hit me hard, it was sad but good
>>29550ynb is such an annoying lib on twitter but that part i get, what did he do?
pierce is such a fun character, if only chevy wasn't an ass irl
still one of the best character exit's,
jacks off to death No.29598
>Rollingstones Top 100 shows of all time list\https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-lists/best-tv-shows-of-all-time-1234598313/Do you agree?
Apparently, Conan made it in
They even interviewed some tv writers for the poll
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/best-tv-shows-all-time-bojack-horseman-creator-raphael-bob-waksberg-explains-ballot-1234600495/CHEERS MADE IT INTO TOP 5 YAAS
Fuck No. 1, I don't care about it, overrated
BCS sisters….
you made it inI think I've heard of all the shows in this list, They're always very america centric
Imagine a worldwide list, I think some could get knocked off,
Like how tf is larry sanders whatever better?
Sad about Wonder Years, but man both the Savages are either creeps or moronic anti-commies
SUCK SESSION RULES
My choices would be very different and have less dramas
It would def include stuff like "The Middle, King of The Hill, One Tree Hill, Cougar Town"
No.29629
remember like 2 weeks ago in she-hulk they were showing a fictional hate forum, and like the memes were very dumbed down and stupid,
yeah i thought that stuff was fictional but nah there are still people on reddit like froums that post like
this
https://old.reddit.com/r/ConservativeMemes/comments/xo3t6k/this_weeks_worlds_dumbest_actressolivia_cooke/not a parody sub, i checked
this is 100% unironic
No.29630
>>29629It's equally shitty memes because it's equally fake memes, possibly even being generated by the same astroturfers alternately hired by conservative money to astroturf conservative presence on reddit or by Marvel Studios to create fictional trolls for their TV show.
>>29576>ynb is such an annoying lib on twitter but that part i get, what did he do?IDK the details, just what people have been saying. Apparently it involved one or more racial slurs and I think he might have been on set at the time.
No.29632
>>29598Archive of the link.
Bottom 50 https://archive.ph/Z7hiuTop 50 https://archive.ph/644h2
>What We Do in the Shadows>Reddit an Memey>Squid Game>The Crown>The Underground Railroad>Russian Doll>Barry>Insecure>Soyjak Horseman>The Good Place>Watchmen>I May Destroy You>Succession>Atlanta>Fleabagabsurd recency bias lol
Isn't a part of this ranking supposed to be cultural impact and influence?
>Chappelle's Show #69lul
It's what you would expect from a popularity contest, pretty messy and several weird choices
No.29633
>>29629catnip for boomers
No.29634
>>29629Somebody do one of those "right-wing vs left-wing memes" with this pic.
No.29642
>>29632>Isn't a part of this ranking supposed to be cultural impact and influence?There are literally thousands of mitski edits of succession
type any succcesion character with "babygirl"
i wonder tho, at what point a show leaves the "recency bias" like what amount of years or cultural impact is needed?
No.29658
This whole dahmer controversy has made me think of the victim's families and how they experience trauma, for eg like this month where people go around pretend to stab each other
the commercialization of actual horrific event, i feel like making up fictional, serial killers inspired or whatever is alright, but true crime adaptaion feels like it's too far
any thoughts?
on art vs real life and how far it should go in depicting it?
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>>29658I agree True Crime as a genre is extremely gross, both for its flippant treatment of the victims, exploiting their victimhood for money, and of the psychological effect on its viewers, who tend to develop paranoid tendencies.
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