No.30109
>>30097Women with red hair are hot
No.30111
>>30081I dunno, seemed like a mixed bag of anti commie prop.
No.30116
>>30111Maybe, but you're not really supposed to like Rick anyhow
No.30127
Malcolm Tucker making a comeback at the end of the third season of The Thick of It was a massive fan-service cop-out
He should have disappeared and been seamlessly replaced by the inscrutable machinery of government and neoconservative hegemony that he was a little Eichmann for and ended up being swallowed up by himself
It would've made a statement
No.30143
>>30127i guess it happens with popular actors, does a disservice to the character arc and vision sometimes
No.30166
>>30143Acting is a technical role, not an artistic one
Honestly, they shouldn't be treated any different from a gaffer or boom operator or whatever
Star systems suck
No.30167
>>30091>show is literally called "the boys">keeps casting girlsliterally male genocide
No.30182
>>30178whgat the fuck did i just watch
No.30195
>>30193>they kept asking to redo and reduce the CGI she-hulk in the show>they make an interface gimmick instead to catch people's attention and try to make more people watch the showoof
>>30178>>30182Couldn't stomach more than one episode (way too slapstick) but the premise of Avenue 5 is that there's a bunch of bourgie dipshits on a cruise ship (IN SPACE) that has a malfunction and goes way off course trapping them on board for a lot longer than originally intended and things start going crazy.
No.30196
>>3012any Quantum Leap fans here? How do you all feel about the new series?
No.30204
>>30196All I remember is the episode where he's retarded and the one where he had a Japanese wife that pissed off the neighbors by working outside with her tits out
No.30209
>>30193>A Train is actually a real marvel designlmao
No.30212
>>30196>Quantum LeapI loved the original show. I'm at least glad the reboot turned out to not be a race swap but a different character. The original stil seems superior storytelling ability even though it sometimes got cheesy. The new one is better than I expected it would be but the episodic characters feel like throwaways. They spend too much time trying to focus on overarching plot so the personal stories of people needing being helped take a back seat. The modernization of there being a soundtrack to fit the style of other shows makes it harder to get immersed in what's going on and just feels like watching a low budget movie. Also I am confused how the show fits in with the original show. They do explain it's just restarting the project but with how the original series ended it doesn't really make sense unless you assume the future was changed enough to change aesthetics of the current year compared to how the original show portrayed things but not changed enough to prevent the quantum leap project from starting by Sam to begin with and somehow even the A.I is still called Ziggy, why? I guess that can pass for now though but I hope some of this doesnt go entirely unexplaoned expected viewers to make up the missing info. Feels too early to make more judgment but so far none of the stories of characters really hit me in the feels like the original was so good at doing though it never was an every episode thing so I cant tell if it will get better at this point since it still feels like it's just trying to establish things. I'm just one episode behind currently.
>>30210I only saw a preview and had forgotten to check it out. It airs on AMC? Or is it some AMC+ thing?
No.30308
>>30307It's all down hill from here
No.30309
>>30210It was pretty good yeah, it's based on a story from Ken Liu so it was expected.
No.30332
>>30308why do you say so? what's about to happen
No.30342
>>30332economic disruption is going to put a big squeeze on all markets and the resulting consolidating is going to let to more marvelization of media
probably
No.30364
>>30342what does marvelizaton of media mean? a shared universe
that's been around since CBS, King of Queens and Everybody Loves Raymond takes place in and cross overs
Or do you mean cheap VFX work
No.30385
I'm not saying it's good, it's average at most. But I genuinely had some fun with Rings of Power and I'm not ashamed to say it.
No.30387
>>30385i wish it wasn't owned by amazon, it would be so funny to see a bilion dollar project fail
No.30405
anyone remember TSV uploaded tv torrents? what were they
they always had extra and included .ico in their releases
No.30406
>>30364Marvelization i think is referring to a loss in quality of CGI and bad jokes with extreme levels of wokist pandering and shitting on real fans of an existing franchise
No.30426
Started watching the Netflix anime called spriggan.
So far so good.
I also started watching Farzar. It was very very very bad. Not even "so bad its good" like that Neo Yokio trash, this is just boring and bland. All the jokes are so "petulant". It really feels like a suburbanite liberal wrote this shit. Not because it's woke, but because the jokes are all fucking "nudge nudge wink wink" and childish.
No.30433
>>30364this
>>30406 plus making everything for a ridiculously broad audience and smoothing everything out to be inclusive (not in the idpol sjw way to everyone) to everyone. Like in Marvel movies they're all perfectly sculpted physical specimens in the peak of their reproductive capability yet no sex is ever had, not even the the allusion to sex or sexual undertones, everything has to be for fuckin babies and for people who are watching it while also checking their phone every 20 minutes instead of watching the thing. Like recently in Rings of Power, they (spoilers, but cant be bothered actually doing the spoiler thing) tell the story of the creation/founding of Mordor and after building that up and making it obvious for 3+ episodes at the end of that story arch they still have a scene of one of the dudes going up to the main baddie and asking "milord, what shall we call this new land??" and the camera pans over to Mount Doom erupting and in big yellow letters on the screen it reads "MORDOR" and it's like "uuuuh if we dont spell it out for them some people may not get it cause they're not paying attention or cause they know nothing about the LOTR universe and we may lose that demographic oh nooooo" and it really cheapens the spirit of the whole story to an extent
No.30587
watching Larry Sanders show cuz I'm bored and I've seen everything else good that HBO offers. It's pretty solid actually.
No.30591
what does vader mean even
yoda means like yodha, a warrior
vader is… ?
No.30592
>>30591> he never saw the old flash filmDARTH = IN
No.30593
>>30592>>30592>DARTH = INhot
No.30625
>>30178its pretty funny, on episode 2 and enjoying it.
No.30707
any of you seen The Commons
it sounds up your alley
>Eadie, a radical and gifted neuropsychologist, is desperate for a child. In that quest, she faces intellectual property theft, disaster capitalism and eugenics.
>about climate change and biotechnology set in the future. The eight part, character-driven thriller looks at ethical boundaries and the place of humanity in saving the planet
No.30748
It's going to be Dr. Whattaburger now
The brits will KNEEL
No.30751
I'm trying to think of an icon for my TV folder and I can't imagine a show that encompasses everything
What show to you is "TV"?
Something that is emblematic of it
No.30753
>>30752YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW!
No.30754
>>30752any other favourite shows?
No.30763
>>30625Have you gotten to
the scene yet
No.30779
>>30778"Years and Years", fucking hell I keep getting the name wrong.
No.30795
>>30778>>30779what is it about
No.30802
>>30795UK becoming a dystopia basically, it's a lot of liberal fearmongering about things which are mostly correct but in a very sanctimonious and hysterical tone which correctly identifies the problems but then their solutions are absolutely absurd and laughable. I don't wanna say too much and spoil it but it is pretty funny especially if you watched Russel T Davies' Doctor Who as a kid, it feels very tonally similar.
No.30807
>>30778>"Soviet Army">2023lol wut
No.30808
>>30807lol yeah russia is the ussr again for some reason and it's never mentioned other than in that aside
No.30809
>>30764At least Liam Hemsworth isn't a complete beefcake, Henry Cavill as Geralt is a ridiculous casting, he's supposed to be kinda ravenish and skinny
No.30814
>>30807USSR was also in Blade Runner 2. its a meme that will become a self fulfilling prophecy
No.30815
>>30807>>30814It's probably an homage to Cold War-era dystopian fiction and sci fi that predicted the USSR would still be around
No.30816
>>30815I think that's giving the writers a bit too much credit, it's probably just the scariest Russia-related thing they could think of
No.30827
>>30815I just want to believe its like the Simpsons predicting 9/11 and meming it into reality.
No.30828
>>30809Cavill is good as Geralt though.
No.30835
>>30828Me and my boyfriend didn't even get through the first episode so I don't really know, but aesthetically he's all wrong. Geralt shouldn't be a beefcake.
No.30837
>>30829abdulmillah
the ussr will be created again
No.30846
>>30835The stories feel all over the place and they go nowhere by the end of the season, it's not even the first book, it's a collection of short stories that predate it.
Geralt is a mutant so of course he's buff.
No.30848
>>30764Cavill wants that HotD casting, after it is so hyped, and Witcher kinda fizzled out after the first enthusiasm.
I sometimes watch YouTube reactions to shows to see if it's worth watching and nobody is even reacting/reviewing The Witcher anymore.
No.30856
>>30848has he ever expressed interest in GoTverse?
I think he left for Superman since he's back in Black Adam
No.30861
>>30846>Geralt is a mutant so of course he's buff.Becoming a Witcher isn't the same as taking a shitload of steroids, Geralt in the games is moderately toned of course as he's a fighter, but he doesn't look beefy or bodybuilder-esque at all, he's quite skinny and fights with speed and finesse rather than raw power. I feel like that is an important part of his character.
No.30865
>>30856The few things I heard from him is that he is tired of this Marvel stuff and wants to expand his repertoire. And I don't think he is necessarily a bad actor as well, it's just that Superman was badly written and Witcher mediocre writing.
No actor wants to be cast just because they're hot, especially when they're professionally trained.
No.30902
>>30865There's rumors that Bob Odenkirk is going to get cast in Wonder Man marvel show
No.30912
>>30848I really liked the first season, but the second one wasn't all that great. Something was missing.
No.30916
>>30912The second season basically disregards all source material. Allegedly the writers all actively hate the books and games which begs the question why they took the project.
No.30922
>>27160Westworld has been cancelled
Thinking of you westworldrunk anon
No.30930
>>30916Well that's fucking retarded
No.30932
>>30920Tried watching an episode but it was way too CW for my tastes.
>>30922Finally lol.
Apparently the main cast is still getting paid for season 5 due to some contract fuckery though which is kinda funny.
>>30930Showbusiness is all nepotism. Nobody actually gives a shit. It's been confirmed Cavill left the Witcher because he thought they did a bad job with the adaptation. He begged for the role because he's a big fan. The story goes he was doing a lot of script doctoring because he would refuse to act out of character.
No.30997
>>30405Yeah they did
Here's a list of .torrent files in a pretty old one of theirs (the readme mentions Windows 7)
No.30998
>>30916>begs the question why they took the project.Publicity of the brand maybe? It's like Prometheus, cool movie (especially the giftbearer version) but why take alien if you want to make a semi mystical story about panspermia and uplifting??
No.31006
>>30998well prometheus is different because that's still ridley scott, but you are probably correct. seems to be a pattern lately of taking a brand and then deviating wildly. kind of stupid though since you could just tell a new story in the same setting and be tangentially related and fuck things up less. like do witcher but follow another witcher instead of geral or do halo but follow another spartan besides master chief…
No.31018
chuck mcgill will never see heaven
manipulative piece of shit
No.31019
>>30998>giftbearer versionWhere do I watch this
No.31020
Rewatching the original Twilight Zone at the moment, I don't think I've ever actually seen most of seasons 4 and 5. The one hour episodes in season 4 really are tough to get through.
It really is a great show, though somewhat dampened by the fact that loads of these plots have been parodied, spoofed and homaged to hell and back since they first aired.
But my god, are they a libshit product of their time. Saw an episode last night where the sky turns black over a town in America because there's a bunch of hatred because someone shot some piece of shit bigot and enjoyed it. At the end of the episode they say that similar blackness has appeared over Dallas (where JFK was shot), the Berlin Wall, a 'political prison' in Budapest, Birmingham, Alabama, Shanghai, 'the entire Northern section of Vietnam' (topkek), Chicago.
Like, yes we have a little bit of racism but it's not too bad, the commies though, are utterly irredeemable.
No.31021
>>31019Found those two folders full of fanedits a while ago, it's in there, along with a lot of other stuff
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xxc6qdoinky8tc2/AABrO--hffsRIty3VmwxUjPka?dl=0&fbclid=IwAR0imk2XP5hMEpmxgROY4B1kns0Adxkh8TnA03DJQ3aRRFq6EikrsZRAe04https://mega.nz/folder/GMQgAJBD#eL6EybfoStStnNOCrJXJBQGiftbearer is a version of Prometheus with deleted scenes that make the movie better but you might be interested in "Paradise" which I have not seen but is apparently a well done tight mash up of Prometheus and Covenant.
No.31026
latest avenue 5 episode was great. pure armando iannuci
No.31039
>>30922Good, let it rest in peace. I still made it through season 3 because there were some social critique sprinkled in here and there but season 4 was so atrocious I gave up after 2 episode. "Everyone is a robot secretly" removes the stakes from the show completely.
No.31040
>>31028>Watched the first episode of "Electric Dreams". Apparently an anthology show based on the works of Philip K DickThanks for reminding me about that. I started watching it and thought it was good but forgot to keep watching. I remember the first episode being about psychics tho..
No.31042
>>30815Well the first movie was Cold War era cyber punk. But I don't remember them mentioning the USSR.
No.31055
>>30922This might just cement the S4 finale as a worse series finale than GoT. Glad Westworld is kill though, my long national nightmare is finally over.
No.31061
>>31059He's right, the hero does a heist to fund the revolution and also a organizes a prison insurrection, I didn't expect this.
No.31069
>>31061Looked it up, it seems to be a prequel spin-off to Rogue One based around one of its main characters
No.31080
>>3012Thoughts on making this topic sequential rather than a cyclical?
No.31082
>>31080I don't know what sequential means
Like a general?
No.31085
>>31082not a mod, but cyclical threads delete the first posts once you get to 500, to keep the total at 500. Sequential would mean a new one gets made each time it fills up and gives people the chance to archive the threads.
No.31098
>>3012dear comrades, a couple of friends of mine recommended handmaids tale. is it actually any good? is it radlib wank, is it worth watching?
No.31106
>>31098i think it might be radlib wank, i've only seen it mentioned in memes
but a future like that, now actually coming to reality, might be an interesting watch
No.31107
>>31098IIRC the author has actually said something to the effect that it's fetish material. IDK about whether it's any good as a story but I will tell you it's utterly preposterous worldbuilding. The idea that a hyper-patriarchy is possible in the future of "the west" is completely divorced from reality. It is, however, the exact kind of paranoia fuel that liberals love because it helps them fearmonger and get people to vote.
No.31119
>>31107what material??? FETISH?
THE AUTHOR ADMITTED THAT??? HE'S A MILK WANKER???
No.31176
>>31107Well TBH Handmaid's Tale is a mild post-apocalypse where there was some kind of nuclear war in the past (IIRC). So that makes the idea of complete social upheaval slightly more plausible.
No.31177
>>31098it's pretty bad but i watched all the seasons until the recent one. i think the first season is probably the best. there's some cool moments but it has a strong radlib stink in its setpieces. lot's of needle drops when a girlboss moment happens. really cringe.
uhh.. but the first season isn't that bad. see if you like it. i like the premise so i stuck with it but it gets into a pattern of nothing happening, or the same thing repeating, and the main character having ridiculous levels of plot armor.
>>31176idk about nuclear war but there's a major fertility crisis worldwide. one of the plots points has mexico's ambassador visit gilead to see if handmaids are a good idea for raising up their numbers or something. gilead is still managing to have children while the rest of the world stagnates (i think)
No.31225
I dropped Silicon Valley
Lame cringe humour and not cynical enough about the industry for me, and pretty much pushes the whole meritocracy entrepreneur myth without any critique
No.31227
>>31069I fell asleep during Rogue One and never watched the rest of it.
No.31250
>>31227Yeah, same
Star Wars is like, not good. It’s bad
No.31270
what happened with that miles teller godfather show they're making
is it a prequel or is it a show about the making of the movie?
it's fucked up how they stole or did some rights fuckery and forced the puzo family to let the show happen
No.31271
>>31225it did give us that "rich people use the blood of the young" scene
but yeah i didn't even watch the ending seasons
suppose some flash forward happens where the CODE IS ALIVE
No.31284
New Avenue 5 was depressing
Personally I thought either the missile would hit and the show would be over, or it would miss for some tragicomic reason. Pick a fucking lane am I right
No.31291
>>31250I think it's more the scope of the movie that enticed people back with the first trilogy because previous space operas were ridiculously silly. Revenge of the Sith had the potential to be good but George Lucas' writing ruined it. And then the guy comes out and says that he can't write dialouge, lmao.
No.31327
>>31326seeing an arthouse actor in a mainstream work is one of the most uncomfortable feelings ever
No.31328
>>31324Episode 12 was dissappionting. I know it was stupid for me to expect something better than that, but i hoped that manifesto guy would be more like marx, in the end it's just about "muh tyranny" and "muh freedumbs", nothing more that a fart of a porky national liberation. I guess it's still not bad compared to the rest of them where liberal status quo with "if you do violence to change the system you are very bad" is upheld, but i still felt let down.
No.31329
Avenue 5 subreddit is painful
Just people trying to fawn over and identify with purposefully unlikable, vapid characters
Do these people realize you have 0 obligation to relate to any fictional character? Although they are TV watchers, so I guess you can't expect much
No.31330
>>31329Also people that hate the first few episodes or even the entire first season are fucking clueless and seem to really not understand what the show is about
No.31338
>>31327why?
he was in mama mia and thor as well
No.31339
Anyone watching season 2 of the white lotus? Pretty good, more ominous and less funny than season 1, and less obviously classpilled. Some real nice cinematography though.
No.31390
>>31328Well what do you think the show's politics were in the end. At least the manifesto isn't stupid enough to believe in incrimentalism and plurality against the fascists. A smart liberal, so to say. We don't know what freedom in that context represents anyway, it's not like communists have never ever used terminology like that.
Also that funeral procession scene was worth watching it alone, that score was beautiful and the cinematography was top-notch. Also the cops are hilarious and it was top filmmaking when they make you barely feel sorry for Dedra because they might have wanted to rape her which makes you realise she is a woman and not just a monster albeit an evil woman.
The one thing I criticize about this show is that it clearly borrows from other shows and mashes it together like House of the Dragon and Squid Game..
No.31391
>>31371Show sucked. Wednesday is a primary psychopath serial killer. She only hates "bad people" if they target her family, but even then, she more hates them for their incompetence. Everything she does is essentially to get people into a position where she can kill them. Remember the movie? Where you see her have a love interest in the nerd kid, and you think through the entire movie, Wednesday has actually warmed up and genuinely has feeling for this other kid, to the very last scene of the movie, where she reveals/brags when she murders people "She's not caught" and springs the trap on the nerd kid to kill him.
TV show would have been way better if at the end, it just reveals everything has been set up by her, she was the mastermind serial killer and she's just framed someone else. Wednesday TV show would need to be more along the lines of Death Note or Dexter.
Movie Wednesday despite being what a 12 year old girl? Is extremely menacing. At not point was Wednesday in this TV show anything but goth Daria.
No.31399
>>31370are the main characters that evil?
No.31401
>>31399Well, they’re Evangelical megachurch grifters, so
No.31402
>>31390> At least the manifesto isn't stupid enough to believe in incrimentalism and plurality against the fascists.It is no better than this. "We should resist. What do you mean "what's the plan"?. Just resist(c)(tm) and somehow it all will work because empire bad and people want free". It is a schizoid anarkiddie nonsense.
>when they make you barely feel sorry for DedraI was only disappointed she wasn't killed.
The only real good part was prison and showing how backbreaking labor affects people. If they had balls or brains, they would also show how tis labor is not much better outside of prison and changing the "bad" boss to "good" one doesn't really make that much difference.
No.31431
>>31391Exactly I always interpreted that she saw that kid as prey. All his weaknesses are obvious for her to exploit. Also in my headcanon Gomez is actually under a spell cast by Morticia.
No.31527
>>31225>and pretty much pushes the whole meritocracy entrepreneur myth without any critique?
This scene blows apart that myth
No.31530
>>31528It shows that start-ups aren’t valued for their technology, however innovative, but how much they can make through financial speculation
No.31533
I really enjoyed Half Bad: The bastard son and the devil himself. Has anyone else seen it?
No.31535
>>31225had higher hopes for it because im a big Mike Judge fan but the nonsense tech justifying their compression algorithm was just too hard a swallow as someone moderately knowledgeable of how compression works.
No.31536
>>31535I am software engineer myself and i had no problems with that. It's just a plot device. The whole point was that it doesn't matter even if it is some miracle technology like that.
No.31573
>>31532I also like the extremely obvious metaphor with the horse breeding. The horses are just stock with potential to create more stocks to Jack Barker just like Pied Piper is. It shows that what Silicon Valley in reality is really isn't much more sophisticated than dealing in livestock.
No.31574
>>31573yeah and his fixation on the horse fucking in the background makes him appropriately clownish for a bourg
No.31586
>>31573>livestockahem
"These definitions only include horses kept for their meat, hides or for use in farming the land, such as ploughing or drawing farm vehicles. They do not include horses kept for recreational, stud or equestrian purposes."
No.31589
>>31585>all the writers have to be fansAlan Moore is spinning in his grave
No.31594
>>31589well, the witcher is fucking shit, so maybe he has a point.
No.31595
>>31589Alan Moore, among other things, has a bad case of "my opinions are facts."
No.31596
>>31595That’s not a case because it’s not a medical condition
No.31597
>>31571Shut the fuck up. Adaptations are allowed to take creative liberties especially in a different medium and actors should shut the fuck up and do as they’re told. Dumb channer retard.
No.31598
>>31597All the creative liberties they took made it significantly worse than what the story originally was. That's the real problem. The other issue is that if you deviate from the source too much you are telling a different story than the original, which the existing audience may not like (which is fair since it's different) and may also fail to create a story a new audience would like (as the original did), which is likely to hurt viewership.
No.31615
>>31595yeah but in this case I think he's right
No.31616
>>31615He's right that you can do interesting things with an oppositional reading/adaptation but the issue here is that you need actually be familiar with what you're adapting and give enough of a shit about it to actually give it any kind of treatment. The people writing the Witcher show weren't just "not fans" and "actively hated" the source material, they weren't familiar with it either and (especially in the second season) were just making up new unrelated shit. At that point the source material is functionally just branding and they are only using it to lure in a bigger audience that the studio doesn't have faith in an original product to attract.
No.31736
Is the Interview with a Vampire show any good? Critics are smitten with it but it reeks like insane idpol
No.31738
>>31736I'm watching it. It's decent but the lead actor is just not charismatic enough. Still believe setting it in the 20th century was a mistake, it's weird when they look vampiric with the eyes, the hair, the fingernails but wear suit and tie. The costumes of the early 19th or 18th century would be way cooler. I mean, if you gonna have a black Louis you can make him a black slaveowner, yes? Those existed.
Better than expected, decent show, can approve. But it's definitely overpraised, those Rotten Tomatoes reviews are ridiculous.
No.31739
>>31738>I mean, if you gonna have a black Louis you can make him a black slaveowner, yes? Those existed. Yeah but it's not about historical accuracy. It's about optics. A black slave owner in a contemporary TV show is too much of a third rail.
No.31824
i get why you guys said king of the hill is conservative
just saw an episode where workers rights are mocked and the day is saved by hank finding a loophole to bypass regulation
No.31825
>>31736oh fuck yes didnt know theres a show, i love me some gay hot vampires.
No.31826
>>31339dropped season 2, first season was a retelling of great gatsby in some ways which made it pretty decent but now they decided to make a season long thing about how
bad cheating is. did they fire all of season 1 writers to hire middle-aged sexually bitter Karens?
i miss armond No.31827
>>31738>>31825Is there really gay vampires? I want to watch some gay shit. Any recommendations?
I watched Heartstopper. Its the type of series I would hate but I actually liked it. And at first I hated the characters but then grew to like them. I was also watching sex ed which is gay-coded cause the main character is cute.
Any recommendations?
No.31880
>>31827The vampires are extra gay
its Anne Rice after all just watched the first episode. Lestat is beautiful.
No.32048
Just watched White Lotus S1 and I really don't understand why this was so popular. It's not bad. It's alright. It's not hilarious, it's funny at times. The social commentary isn't terrible or anything, it's just there. A few of the performances are really great, but most are okay. It also suffers from the great sin of bourgeois Hollywood millionaires trying to critique (or give the illusion of) themselves. Weird shit, I think it's so popular because it's a kind of digestible form of liberal guilt? "Yeah, we're showing you a film that's centered around the nobility's petty interpersonal struggles, but they're kind of bad, so it's okay to enjoy the show"
No.32049
>>32048That was pretty much my own reaction
No.32086
>>32048i like it cause it's vacation themed
but yeah, idk even know what the commentary is about between the weird daughter and the gen x mom
like they're both ill, and too online
it's just a commentary i guess of our current times
No.32108
>>27697>I love the slow pace and depressing atmosphere of these last few eps, reminds me a little of Twin Peaks S3lol did you enjoy tp s3?
No.32115
>>32114>Ben Stiller is actually a really fantastic director.He directed several movies including Zoolander and Tropic Thunder.
No.32121
>>31826the season ends with endorsing cheating though
No.32123
>>31736>>31738Wasnt Louis always or mixed or not fully white?
No.32124
>>27906>How do they use photo cameras for moving television? That's weirdMoving television? I'm not watching the vid but I heard that they shot Succession mostly on 35mm. It's simple, they just shoot film, scan it, and cut it digitally.
>>27908>Is Succession good? The theme song slaps.Yeah I think it's pretty good. I ended up binging the 3 seasons. Honestly kinda got tired of the theme. I have a loud woofer and the bass in the theme shakes my whole room when I have the dialogue at a comfortable level. I'm fucking tired of the Nolan 'soundtrack 4x times loud as the dialogue' shit.
>>27911>That stuff about shooting at day and lowering the exposure to make it look like night is ingenious stuff, fascinatingBruh you never heard of 'day for night' before? Literally the oldest film making trick in the book.
>>27911>Yeah it's good, I almost want to rewatch it again too, It's a dramadey like BCSYeah kinda reminds me of Veep with an ensemble of generally unlikeable characters always quipping at each other. At least it's not Sorkin level, haven't seen anything he did besides The Social Network but I doubt I'd like any of it. I hate that kind of overstylized dialogue where everyone sounds the same.
I think story wise they did a good job of making all the characters 3-dimensional and sympathetic even, but maybe that would be a black mark for leftypol. Makes me want to be rich too haha. When Logan rants about his "this is the real world" shit I felt that lol.
No.32125
>>32115Forgot about those, but still Severance is way more stylistic and out of the lane you'd think of for him(comedies.) That said, another great thing about severance is it's very funny too despite the horror aspect. Very spooky, very surreal, but all the characters are very lovable goofs at the same time. Also it's Sci-Fi, I don't want to give away anything about it.
I'm sad I'm the first to mention ITT. Seriously, everyone check it out right now.
No.32132
>>32127i'm surprised nobody came up with this before tbh
next TV will be 'pedophile island' or some shit, there are no boundaries anymore, the more controversial you can be the better
No.32136
>>32134I never said I endorsed the show dipshit.
No.32137
Quantum mechanics has been a disaster for sci fi writing.
No.32138
>>32137I tend to agree but can you name scifi that doesn't just use quantum mechanics as an excuse for mysticism and magical thinking. Maybe hard scifi written by people who actually understand the subject might be good.
No.32139
>>32138The reason I post it in the first place was because I was watching a shitty scifi TV show where they justify magic shit as some mumbo jumbo quantum dynamics shit. Just say that science can't fucking understand it. It is way easier than inventing sciency sounding shit with insane plot holes and lose ends, and it saves the audience the cringe of hearing sciency trash.
No.32140
Season 6 star trek DS9 has been really good so far. Season 5 was a slump.
No.32234
>>32137Really? I mean quantum computers are a real thing. I'm much more bothered by wormholes that just teleport you, visible laser beam and any sort of hyper drive/warp drive without addressing the problem of relativity of time.
No.32245
Succession is interesting, but man some of these scenes could be 90% shorter
No.32249
>>32246I'm sure it will be 100% dogshit like the other seasons. Who's that Tom Paris looking guy? Picards son? Clone? A new Shinzon? How many Datas/Soongs are there, my god.
I do appreciate this show for really killing any fanboy sentiments I have, I can perfectly enjoy TNG for what it is, without the weight of this turd destroying past memories or current pleasure. Picard's very existence is like a mindfulness exercise, a reminder to enjoy the present moment, experience it fully, to have no expectations for the future, and a reminder that the past memories don't change because of the future.
No.32251
>>32234I hate the trope of using quantum mechanics to just paper over shit writing. I have a theory that it makes people feel smart so they greenlight it and sprinkle it like pepper on everything.
No.32258
>>28354>>29096I'm watching Babylon 5 now and I must say that no leftist could have crafted a more realistically unpleasant liberal future! They have an ongoing homelessness crisis on a space station for heaven's sake! These "lurkers" are forced to live in the "undeveloped" sections of the station, while there's a vash lush garden/farm in the middle of the station that seems unoccupied and used only when important characters want to take a walk.
The show honestly rocks.
No.32260
I think The Last of Us is overrated. It's only three episodes but the praise this show gets is not from this planet. Sure, it's decent, but it's not "the best television ever" as some critics are unironically saying. To be honest, the last episode with the gay couple could as well be in The Walking Dead, only with less good music. There are dozens of shows that have episodes like that. In my view it doesn't come close to other hit shows we had recently like House of the Dragon, Better call Saul or Andor. I'll agree it's the best video adaptation ever but that is a very very low bar.
I'll continue watching because it's a cool show but honestly, some of y'all need to get a grip.
No.32261
>>32232Yeah except that guy is a libertarian nutjob who decorates the entire street with American flags - followed up by a line from the other guy "yeah but they weren't before". It's not leftist or a critique of the US in any shape or form. It's funny though how they chose the guy from Community for this role.
No.32262
>>32249Meh, as shit as this stuff is, it only needs one good ST show that takes the franchise into a new direction. I mean, the recent shows tried that but in a bad way. We won't see that until 5 or 7 years or so, when it's ripped out of Alex Kurtzman's grubby hands.
No.32263
>>32260Stop reading normalfag comment sections
No.32264
>>32263I was reading the reviews by professional movie critics on Rotten Tomatoes. I mean, they do this shit for a living.
No.32266
>>32260Better call Saul was great, but HOTD was basically season 7 GOT at its best, which isn't saying much since season 7 is just a "better" version of season 8 which was the lowest of dogshit.
No.32268
>>32266Yeah that's not true. Just by comparing the dialog it's massively superior because GRRM actually was part of the writing unlike the later GoT seasons written by the antbrains D&D. There are legitimate criticisms, like that it was too much of a period piece focused on family drama, the stupid dragon scene by the end of episode 9, and so on, but to compare it to the shitfest that was GoT seasons 6-10 (season 5 is a little bit salvagable if you ignore the last episode and the Dorne storyline) is not fair because it had proper storybuilding.
No.32284
>>32268>Yeah that's not trueHOTD was extremely predictable and tjr dialogue was some of the worst I've seen on tv close to CW levels of garbage. It was Marvel levels of annoying out of touch and all style no substance. I mean if Marvel shit is your thing I guess HOTD is for you, but definitely do not put it on any pedestal, that show was a 4/10 at best.
No.32286
>>32260"It makes sense for the Last of Us show to be better than Halo, Witcher, Resident Evil etc shows because you could tell that the people creating that game were writing it like a TV show and clearly wished, the entire time, that they were making a prestige TV show instead of a game."
No.32307
Aight, I've watched a lot of shit the past year, so here are my thoughts no one asked for:
The Wire: Massively revered show, owed large in part to its initial cultural impact, and as such, feels like it has objectively faded as the years went on. Don't get me wrong, it's absolutely in the higher echelon of television, but it has problems that have only been exasperated as the years progress, yet its initial prestige has clouded a lot of fans perception. First of all, the pacing in earlier seasons, especially season 1 is shoddy. Episode 1 for example is easily one of the worst paced episodes of television I have ever seen, and these issues continue infrequently throughout the second season. Many characters seem to entirely change motives off screen, while others are introduced, and removed with very little stake in the story, and some scenes are extremely gratuitous. These broad issues waned around the end of S2, but still should be mentioned. Season 5 is also pretty laughably peculiar, and a step down from the rest plot wise. But disregarding those issues, S3/S4 are excellent, and alone bring it up to worth a watch. Still, as the years have passed, I think the initial strong points of The Wire (high budget action, suspense, layered cat-and-mouse plot, characters that can actually act, etc.) that were rare in early 2000's became commonplace, and so it definitely is not what I would consider the best show of all time, like some do. Comfortably in top 15 though.
Better Call Saul: I watched this over the span of 2 years, with the final season disjointed from the rest, and I think it detracted from my enjoyment. Better Call Saul is much less frantic and bombastic as Breaking Bad, and so the period of rest before the final season reduced the energy even more. I see a lot of people saying BCS is much better than BB, and perhaps it's because I have monkey brain, but I can't see where they're coming from. BB is miles more thrilling and stimulating both consciously and subconsciously. BCS on the other hand takes a more interpersonal approach, with most of the run time comprised of talking. This is not inherently bad, and does not make BCS bad in the slightest, but I will take BB's constant thrill and cat-and-mouse plot over it any day.
Six Feet Under: An HBO golden age show I rarely hear about, but thought it was just as good as the other offerings of the time. Its almost solely character driven, but makes it work in an extremely entertaining manner. You actually somewhat care about each character, as they curate them in a sympathetic and realistic way, and so even a simple conversation between the leads is engaging. The "death of the day" aspect of each episode is also very creative and conducive of entertaining plot threads. It slows down a bit in the later seasons, as it feels like characters start to retread arcs they already completed, and just meander, but I feel it ended before it became genuinely annoying. The ending is also very satisfying, albeit blunt.
True Detective (S1): Probably the most overhyped show I've watched, but still good nonetheless. Performances are the highlight and saving grace of the entire thing, as both leads are immensely believable and entertaining. The plot is where the show kind of falls off though, as the mystery is never allowed to mull on, nor satisfyingly converged and resolved. Every episode seems to introduce a new aspect to the mystery, yet solve it before the episode finishes, even extending to the finale, which was laughably akin to a "monster of the week" type show. Nothing felt lasting, or all that impactful, and the trope of "child molester cult with ties to businesses" is not as enthralling as it once was.
Fargo: I've only watched seasons 1-3 so far, (season 4 seems to suck), but this is definitely one of my favorites, which surprised me, considering I despised the Fargo movie. S1 maintains a high the entire time, with likely one of the best pilots in television history. I particularly like stories with a cat-and-mouse dynamic, as aforesaid, so this season is my favorite, as it establishes multiple converging threads from the start, and constantly has they intertwine and confront one another. My only nitpick is the stuff after the flash forward felt a little rushed, especially regarding Lesters delve back into voyeuristic killing, but other than that, it was amazing throughout. Season 2 was a small step down, simply for the fact that the characters felt less real and fleshed out. You barely get to know the main characters, as they seem very one note for most of the runtime, and the villains seem bland and underutilized as well. The plot, however, is the same quality as the former season, and elevated it significantly. Season 3 was far more cerebral and relaxed than the previous 2, but I enjoyed it about the same as S2 for its characters. Season 3 is sort of the antithesis of season 2, wherein the characters and plot inverse in quality. Ewan McGregor killed it along with Mary Winstead, and the British villain guy is genuinely vile, which I feel not many shows capitalize on with their antagonists.
Andor: Like a good little consumer I gave into the hype and watched a Star Wars show, despite my best judgement, but Andor is pretty solid. The plot, dialogue and overall direction are easily the best thing Disney has done with Star Wars, and the acting is for the most part great as well. Some performances can be a little hammy (especially the stuff regarding police vs rioters), but overall, it's essentially in the same league as some prime time shows. Sucks that their initial vision of 4-5 seasons was axed in favor of 2, as I think that means it will have to rush through the plot development, but even if S2 is garbage, this one was surprisingly good.
South Park: Early seasons are great, but cracks start to form around season 12, and then the entire show falls off a cliff at 18. Honestly think they should scrap the whole social commentary aspect, as it feels like it's consumed every episode for years now, and personally, even in the good seasons, I never thought it was as interesting or funny as they seem to think it is. The best episodes were just kids doing dumb shit, and Matt and Trey literally say they like those episodes the most, so it baffles me as to why South Park has evolved into just being a "look at what we think about yesterday's news!" with gore. I have to assume it's because the social controversy was what jettisoned them to fame initially, but it is easily the least sustainable aspect of the show, and functionally killed it during the Trump era due to them trying to predict events to write around before they happened.
Cowboy Bebop: Probably one of the best, if not the best anime I've watched, though that isn't saying much considering I don't like anime all that much. Characters and direction are very vibrant and dynamic, plus the dialogue is a perfect blend between realistic, everyday banter, and poetic type ramblings. The story is just okay though, as it operates largely on an episodic basis, varying in quality a lot, and only having a few episodes sprinkled throughout that offer any semblance of character development, or plot progression. Not a bad thing, but not anything to praise either. Also, the music and action sequences are peak.
Samurai Champloo: I don't have much to say, because this is essentially just Cowboy Bebop, but with worse characters, and a more consistently entertaining plot. Overall worse than CB, but not by much, and definitely more cohesive in its story.
No.32377
three body 2023. 30 episodes of the most faithful sci fi adaptation ever, maybe.
No.32378
>>32377is it any good tho
No.32379
>>32378I like basically any kind of thoughtful harder sci fi, a lot of lo fi stuff most people wouldn't sit through. I like it a lot.
No.32389
Anyone here watch Babylon Berlin? Only watched two eps so far but it seems interesting
No.32403
>>32319kendall chads stay winning
No.32406
I'm kind of over HBO. Even though their shows look impressive on the surface, it's always the same formula: Make some long-ass intro that probably eats up a quarter of the budget and then have people swear all the time, insert some scenes that are gross and add some doggystyle. Like that facility in Westworld, what workplace is this where co-workers constantly insult each other? Why do people say fuck and cuck at high court in HotD? In some shows it fits, like True Detective because it's Southern Gothic. Even the episode runtimes are always the same for every show. Last year Andor has shown that you can play fast and loose with the runtimes for dynamic storytelling.
And on top of that they are so fucking strict with the budget and the renewal of shows giving it zero time to breath or to find its own tone. CBS let a trash show like STD run for forever even though it never went anywhere, and that series does not look too cheap to produce. This leads to a situation where the stakes are so high for the producers that they feel the pressure to ramp up the plot every season, seriously how many shows went to shit because of that? Westworld, GoT, True Detective, etc.
No.32407
>>32389Nice slow burn. Also neutral depiction of commies that's how you can tell it's not an American show.
No.32408
>>32407Yeah I'm digging it. Also maybe I'm gay but I'm obsessed with that song from the second ep
No.32418
>>32408I just find it cool that they made the crossdresser a Stalinist. Adds layers to her character.
No.32420
>>32418I agree
But damn does their formula work, the high production value
>>32389what is it about
No.32421
So is the hype for The Last of Us already over? The last two episodes were dogshit.
Also is it that in every episde Joel and Ellie meet two friendly characters with the most generic English names that end up dying by the end of the episde in a death that is supposed to make you sad? gets repetitive quite quickly.
No.32423
I hope joel makes the correct decision and helps the fireflies take out Ellie's brain this time.
No.32424
>>32421It's a plot from a video game, don't expect Shakespeare
No.32425
>>32420It's a crime drama set in the Weimar era
No.32426
>>32423that shit pissed me off so bad I never finished the game
No.32427
>>32421That's basically all The Last of Us video games.
No.32428
>>32426>that shit pissed me off so bad I never finished the gameI think this joke is too clever for this thread.
No.32438
>>32426what, you didn't like our great hero dooming humanity to extinction
No.32441
>>32421First 3 were pretty good, this 2-episode arch was.. okay. You can really see the "video game" coming out more heavily. I feel like we just hit another save point after an action piece. We went somewhere, snuck around, doomed a community (actually very similar to TWD) and we're off to fuck the next! We also encountered a new enemy type! I suspect this will lose it's critical charm quickly if this keeps up. Should have made it a movie or two instead, we're already stretching content and we're 4 hrs in.
Also, the evil resistance lady was terribly campy.
No.32453
>>32403Kendall is a dumbass, just very slightly less than his siblings
No.32471
Which should I watch next, Succession or Mad Men?
Or neither?
No.32477
>>32471Succession obviously
No.32484
>>32438>dooming humanity to extinctionExplain to me why this is bad. Protip: you cant.
No.32487
>>32471Disclaimer: I haven't seen Succession.
Mad Men is really good if you're in the right head space for it. What I mean is, it's extremely slow-paced, generally subtle, and its conflicts are essentially mundane (identity, office politics, marital problems, suburban ennui, stuff like that). It doesn't have a plot per se, instead it's mostly driven by its themes and characters (personally I consider Don Draper to be one of TV's finest, even though it doesn't seem like it initially). The first season lays it on too thick at times and is more prone to cheesiness and eyeroll-worthy quipping, but it's mostly smooth sailing once you get into season 2. The cinematography, sets, costuming, and music are top notch too. If that sounds more appealing than Succession (which is a lot less of a slow burn from my understanding), give it a shot. If not, save for it another time.
No.32488
HBO cancelled Avenue 5 for not having enough family values or a clear straight man, rest in peace
No.32490
TLOU is already doing a heckin anticommunism.
No.32491
>>32490To be fair they were dumbasses who emphasized emotional revenge over strategy
No.32493
>>32487Yeah, pretty much everywhere I look, public opinion is either, "This is one of the greats, alongside The Sopranos, The Wire and Breaking Bad", or, "This is the single most boring show on Earth", with little in between.
I'm inclined to believe the former, cause most people just have shit attention spans and only can stomach blockbuster action.
I guess I'll find out, thanks for the recommendation.
No.32494
>>32490Imagine what Disco Elysium show is gonna look like when it comes out lol
No.32495
>>32407Communists are depicted as shadowy underground plotters that assassinate people and not much else
No.32496
>>32495>>32389Also I don't like how it treats the Nazi rise to power as inevitable aside from the effort of a few police officers of all people. Guess that's a consequence of bad historical fiction.
No.32497
>>32493>"This is one of the greats, alongside The Sopranos, The Wire and Breaking Bad"Putting Wire and BB on the same pedestal is already enough to discredit that person opinion.
No.32498
>>32497Which one do you think is superior?
No.32501
>>32498Duh. The Wire of course.
No.32502
>>32501Eh, I think they're closer in quality overall. The wire has the best highs, but the lowest lows, (Season 1 and 5 of the Wire are pretty mediocre).
No.32508
I'm here to report that Picard S03E01 still sucks, it's getting glowing reviews though. Money well spent for sure. It was very amusing though watching Dr Crusher kill 2 aliens in a gunfight, double tapping a wounded one.
No.32510
Just finished Barry. Kind of a more comedic discount version of Dexter, and it tried too hard to be "self-aware" about TV shows, but all of the dramatic arcs resolved perfectly towards the ending which was thankfully succinct.
No.32511
>>32510Oh, there's going to be a fourth season apparently. I'll probably ignore it.
No.32517
>>32508my only interest in it is to see rlm dissect it but I think even those masochists are tired of it
not that I blame them
No.32522
>>32510Would you say dexter is better
No.32525
TLOU girl's face is too small for her head
No.32526
>>32522They're both TV shows
No.32539
>>32528That's the face right there
No.32556
In the latest last of us episode:
>Tommy's wife was turned Black
>The town literally calls themselves communists
It’s like they’re intentionally trying to make 4chins pee their pants
No.32557
>>32556i thought the narrative was being anticommunist
No.32558
>>32557I mean it’s mainstream media, of course it’s not reeeeeeally pro-communism.
I’m just quoting them (vid rel)
No.32561
>>32556Who gives a shit what your incel friends think. Dumbass incel
No.32565
>>32558So a democratically elected council and collective ownership isn't communism?
No.32572
>>32565I never said that they weren’t, I just said that the show producers at HBO probably aren’t actually pro-communist.
No.32573
>>32561<make joke mocking incels>YOURE A STUPID INCEL!?
No.32574
>>32508I can't watch it knowing that Picard is a robot. That was such an unnecessary twist and also done in a really inhumane way.
No.32575
>>32572HBO has a few shows out there that make a really, really shallow social critique but it never goes beyond that. Like, you get the vibes, but they never carry to the end. Like in Westworld or True Detective.
No.32576
>>32556Only because of a gay couple? Jesus. I found the latest HBO shows like HotD and TLOU surprisingly unwoke.
No.32588
>>32576They are woke, they seem unwoke to you because you like the product. Things like race swapping and showing women in leadership positions and a community openly calling itself communist and portrayed in a good way without questionable morality is basically as woke as you can get. It seems to me the definition of what's woke and not woke these days is whether a person likes a particular piece of art or not.
No.32592
>>32588Question: Who cares?
No.32593
>>32588>It seems to me the definition of what's woke and not woke these days is whether a person likes a particular piece of art or not.Always has been.
No.32608
don't bother posting about tv ever again if you're not on your Three Body voyage. The journey is the reward. ngl it's a vibe, a long vibe. 30 episodes. Extremely wholesome.
No.32609
>>32608sorry sweaty I read the book (annoying I only read it a month ago, if I knew there was a show coming out I would have waited)
No.32625
Just finished Deadwood, and man, I’ll never forgive HBO for cancelling it on such a dumb ending.
No.32634
>>32631It deserves credit for keeping to Lovecraft's roots by being racist and reactionary
No.32639
>>32638>from the creator of Downton abbeyYes
No.32640
>>32631are you fr?
is this good or do i need to read books too?
>>32634is love craft the guy who had the cat with the n-word?
i think he reformed later after going out
No.32675
>>32631I liked how it did its own thing. It couldn't really stick to the books as most of them are unconnected short stories, and half the time the monsters are "so horrible that describing them would drive you insane!" Shame the lead never really got his comeuppance for
shooting the communist nurse in the head when he was in Korea, but I'm more surprised an American soldier was depicted as the bad guy in an American tv show, and the Native Trans character was done seriously dirty
I honestly thought she'd turn up again next episode and not be able to say anything about how she was murdered because she was a siren, and there would be another subplot where Tick's dad has to try and stop them from removing the siren curse, but that ever happened :\.
It's lib, of course, like how
white people and white people only get banned from magic at the end of the show lol but I don't have any other major criticisms.
I disagree with the notion that it's just about romance too; there are romance subplots, but they're woven into the story pretty damn well, and don't distract from the mystery at all.
No.32692
First season of House of the Dragon is too empty
I get they're trying to do a build-up with exposition of all of the important players, but couldn't they at least add a few interesting arcs in there instead of constant soliloquys or whatever
No.32696
>>32692The acting is dogshit, too
No.32716
>>32696By Emma d'Arcy? Maybe. But Paddy Constantine and Olivia Cooke do excellent jobs.
>>32692Yeah it feels a lot more like royal family drama and pretty much the only location is the Red Keep. If you are into that kind of stuff the arcs are okay. But if they stick to the book, it will be a really action-packed season 2 with hitting locations all over Westeros, you just have to wait forever for it.
No.32718
>>32716I always see Paddy Considine as the orchestra director in The Death of Stalin
No.32722
>>32609Final episode tonight. It's everything I asked for from sci fi tbh. Detailed technical scientific discussion, the protagonists are scientists (an elderly woman and a mild mannered family guy), it doesn't rely on action but the set pieces are epic. A scale beyond grand but still rooted in reality, with lots of fucking around in mao-era mountaintop secret military installations.
No.32723
>>32722I haven't watched it yet, but I have read the books and feel the same way about them. I especially like how Three Body dispels naive Possadism without becoming warhammer tier aliens=evil schlock.
No.32833
>>32829Easily one of the best shows to come out of the past couple years, and a masterclass in nonverbal storytelling.
But honestly, skip the final episode. It drops the ball HARD and makes the show retroactively worse.
No.32839
>>32838Why does this thread exist. People that watch TV are reactionaries
No.32843
Latest TLOU has christoid-killing action
No.32849
>>32841Second and third girl from the left are just black and Asian (Mongolian?), what the fuck dude.
No.32851
>>32849Stop being racist.
No.32869
Two episodes in, the third season of Star Trek Picard is actually… more or less decent? And not because of the fanservice by bringing all the old actors back. The dialogue got much better, it doesn't have those ridiculous plot devices, and Picard does not feel like "J.P." anymore. No references to the other seasons so far which is probably a good decision (besides one remark about Picard's synthetic body).
I'm still not trusting the whole thing but that together with STD getting cancelled is a step in the correct direction for the franchise.
No.32902
what is a good, enjoyable tv series to watch that is
-not too terrible of politics
-not depressing
-not too disturbing
light-hearted or dramatic but upbeat is okay
looking for movie recs too
>>24481gonna stop poooosting for a while thank you very much in advance
No.32904
>>32902Sounds like you'd be a big fan of broadcast TV. "The great TV" era is cable and premium channels making that kind of content you don't like.
No.32905
>>32869I think it's still pretty bad. I guess the dialogue is mostly ok, that's not the real issue. But no ridiculous plot devices? Picard/Crusher's son is a pretty large one. It also makes no sense from TNG Crusher. It's not believable she would do something that shitty, simply not Picard that he has a son for 20+ years.
And further out of character stuff. It's not believable that Picard would decide to risk the whole crew of the Titan in a reckless way to try to save his son, it's not believable that Captain Shaw would acquiesce after being such a prick, it's not believable that Picard would bitch at Riker in public like that, believable that Riker would shut him down in public like that, etc. etc. That's why I hate it, it's like watching a much, much dumber and hallower version of TNG, which I really enjoy.
Ok so all the characters are trash. But the episodes are also just boring. The action is predictable, you know what's going to happen if you've ever watched TV. There's no need to rewatch this ever again, because it's so plot and action heavy (compare to something like The Neutral Zone, Who Watches the Heaver).
And beyond that, the whole fucking thing is ghoulish. They're old. Everyone's old. No one has any mojo except Riker and Seven to a lesser degree. Patrick Stewart is an effete pussy, with a warbling voice. A blubbering old man, instead of a renaissance man. Even Worf sounds old, you can hear it in his voice. It's sad to watch.
No.32912
>>32905I agree with most of this, but I approached it not as a Star Trek show but just as another sci-fi show, and as such I can mildly enjoy it. I mean once they start using swear words all the time the immersion that it's Star Trek breaks anyway.
One thing that annoys me though is the camera work. Why does it have to always be shaky? It makes me sick. If you wanna make a found footage movie, make one. But when you are shooting something like this you fix your fucking camera and don't have the intern holding it running through the halls as you film a fucking hallway shot with no action. Eh, I'm still gonna watch it I am numb at this point with regards to that franchise. Can Star Trek pull an Andor? Prolly not.
No.32914
Watched episode 8 of The Last of Us, I still don't get why people suck this show's dick so fucking much? Is it nostalgia for game they once played? This plot could be in a Walking Dead episode, although TWD would spread out a cannibal cult story (wasn't there something like that in there?) over multiple episodes. Also the villian was not impressing, he kept boasting about how violent he is and he lost every single encounter with Ellie, a little girl, even when she is in his own cell.
There was some interesting symbolism about Christianity but sorry that is not gonna cut it for me. There is nothing outstanding about this show, the dialogue is average, the story is predictable, the camera work is just bog-standard, the music is barely there (except recycling Max Richter's "Tribute to Nature" for the n-th time in episode 3). Why the fuck is this so hyped
No.32915
>>32902Okitegami Kyōko no Bibōroku
No.32916
>>32914Its a 5/10 show at best, gamers just like when their media gets popular, so theyre exaggerating its quality
No.32921
>>32914It's on HBO lol, that's why it's hyped
No.32925
I liked both of the gay date episodes actually. Frank and the Ellie and her gf one. But yeah I thought the last episode was probably the weakest so far.
>>32838>Tonight's episode was pretty weak tho. Maybe the weakest yet. Didn't do anything interesting with the cult.But then I went on twitter and they seemed to be eating it up.
That the guy Joel killed at the school in the previous episode was the guy they were mourning at the beginning of this one was a good twist, but it doesn't make any sense because none of those guys had guns, yet in this episode, the cult has tons of guns.
The guys starving didn't make any sense. Maybe if some unexpected tragedy suddenly struck them like their food spoiled or infected got into it or something, it might make sense, but that these guys were that unprepared after years of surviving out there didn't. They can't even make traps? Also how were they such shit hunters and trackers? Then Ellie goes out and finds a rabbit and a deer in like five minutes.
The cult leader seemed like he was going to be interesting, seemed like he was more compassionate with his followers, but then we learn it was just because he fell madly in love with Ellie immediately for retarded reasons. Also his whole speech was fucking ridiculous, telling her he's a fraud and doesn't believe in Christianity to her right away. Also after giving her that whole speech, he just decides after the first rejection "welp, time to eat her!" No it would make much more sense that he would be more dedicated to the wife thing after that long revealing speech. You think he would try to break her down over time. At least rape her once before eating her lol. But nope straight to the eating. Also they were making the cannibalism thing look so horrible, when there's really nothing wrong with eating people who died on there own if you're starving.
Joel and torturing those guys when he had them tied up was gratuitous and unnecessary. Also illogical. You think he would keep them alive to try and barter for Ellie. Worse was the reactions on twitter and everyone cheering for it.
Like you mentioned the Ellie getting away so easily was dumb. Didn't make sense why they did that fakeout where he stuck it down right next to her just because she told them she was infected. Why would that be a reason to not just swipe down on her neck like he was about to 2 seconds before? If anything that would be more of a reason to. If I was cult leader guy I woulda swiped her. Let my follower guy know I think she's faking, but to be safe, put me in the cage and wait to see if I turn. What was even more dumb was using the meat cleaver thing twice. The second time, he SEES her crawling towards the cleaver, but nope, doesn't even think to kick it out of the way before trying to rape her in the burning building. The whole burning building scene was dumb as hell. That's like pure movie shit, showing know concern this building is going to start coming down on top of you and you're about to suffocate before that. He's like "the doors are locked Ellie! There is no way out!" Well then why the fuck don't you go outside dude and wait for her to try and break out? Also why did none of the rest of the cult come to their main fucking building burning down? Did just none of them notice?
But everyone on twitter was really eating up the going psycho on the rapist thing. Ok whatever, could've been powerful, just the whole setup to it was so ridiculous it just had me rolling my eyes.
And Joel going from so out of it he can't even speak, to peak murdering condition in 5 minutes made no sense either. They could've staged that way better.
Also why the fuck weren't the cult eating the monkeys that were running all around the university?
No.32927
>>32914I fucking hate the 'cannibal cult' cliche, it's so overused
No.32928
It doesn't matter if she's a lesbian. Ellie should have a kid so that she at least passes on her immunity to the rest of humanity. If only Joel had knocked her up before he got grand slammed. Future humans would be unstoppable then.
No.32930
>>28370>damn, i gotta pick this show up againIt's mostly about Harley and Ivy doing some stupid downtown rich girl shit. I mean the show definitely has it's moment, but unfortunately most of it is pretty mediocre. I don't even remember most of the stuff that happened despite the fact that iwatched it whole in the february. There is occasional interesting character development for Harley and some other characters, but Joker did more in two episodes to affect the setting and enact some meaningful change to it than Harley did in the rest of the show. I wish this show was better and had more interesting stuff like Joker arresting Bruce for tax evasion but alas.
No.32967
I'm a little over halfway through Vladimir Bortko's adaptation of The Idiot. The English subtitles are poor and there are a few cast members whose performances I'm not entirely convinced by, but on the whole it's quite good so far.
No.32970
>>32967Alright, great rec. I'm gonna try and torrent it and get alternative subutitles. *14 moments of spring* was one of the most memorable tv things I've seen over the last few years.
No.33045
>>33042Pandering to gamers for that TikTok Skinner box
No.33064
>>33042>storystories*
Also, how can you read this and not understand she's joking? It's well crafted bait, but overseasoned.
No.33070
>>33042i think it's wholesome
No.33072
>>32914Anime honestly is some of the worst things on earth. Those japs really got their brains fried to make such trash.
No.33073
>>32829>>32833Primal is great.
The choice to go from an episodic format to having a story arc in season 2 is somewhat controversial though. Hopefully Genndy follows through on the idea to make it fully an anthology series, since it worked pretty well with the one episode like that they snuck into season 2.
As for the last episode, the first half is ok but could be turned off after Spear leaves to go sit by himself if you want to skip the badly paced conclusion and a certain questionable scene.
No.33077
>TV shows
People still make and watch these? Lol
No.33079
>>33077I've been told that we're living through a golden age of television
No.33080
>>33079Pure cope over cable-cutting and the fact that streaming is a bunch of hedge funds in a trench coat
No.33081
>>33079The golden age ended when like, idk, Game of Throne started getting bad. Now everything is rehashes and workmanlike shows by streaming companies that don't care about what they're making.
No.33082
>>33081That is cope. There are several good shows out there, Severance was great, Andor was greatm Better Call Saul was great, etc.
>by streaming companies that don't care about what they're making.The companies don't but they seem to allow for a degree of artistic freedom. 2 of the 3 aforementioned shows aired at some of the worst companies in the world. But still, TV networks censored much more back in the day.
No.33083
>>33082Andor was good for a Star Wars product but nothing amazing in general, not seen Severance, as for BCS… I dunno it was alright, I watched it, but it definitely isn't as good as the Wire, GOT, etc etc, it's not even as good as Breaking Bad.
No.33085
>>33084What would be non reactionary entertainment
No.33086
>>33084>I haven't watched these>I can assure you they're complete garbageThanks for your insight. Severance takes the living shit out of capitalist work culture and Andor has an antifascist direction.
>Try not shovelling reactionary slop down your maw.Even if I did, since I am on this board you can assume I could see through that if I was confronted with it cuz I am not a normie baby. You could make a critique that these shows are a form of capitalist realism but you come over as unhinged.
No.33087
>>33085The Wind That Shakes The Barley
No.33090
>>33087How about I burn your Barley.
No.33092
>>33085If you have to ask..
No.33131
Anyone ever seen an old show called The Torkelsons 1991
also thoughts on the last of us finale, im not ready for joel to die>>33086I'm interested that you didn't deny BCS is reactionary, nta
But I feel like that show is a bit libbed with how much it wags a finger on how jimmy gets things done
Like the system is still corrupt but the writers think he somehow has to pay for all that he has done in an unjust world
No.33132
>>33090alright but no kissing
No.33133
>>33077And what do you watch?
No.33134
>>33131Jimmy getting railed is just to complete the trifecta.
Walter: ded
Jesse: got away
Jimmy: prison
No.33166
Wednesday is funny it's like a fucked-up mix of Euphoria and Harry Potter
No.33225
>>33166really?
>>33222after watching the ending of the video, i feel like i don't agree with the part about contradictions
i mean they're right and true, but that's just gonna be
for a system of contradictions like capitalism
i see nothing wrong in it, you can take the king's supper to spit at it him with
what are y'all thoughts on anti-cap media made under capitalism?
No.33245
New Succession season premiere was boring
Had high hopes for the show but it's just constant repetition just like everything else on TV
No.33246
>>33245Yeah, I remember it not being boring but that feels like ages ago.
No.33247
>>33246I think it might do too good of a job at portraying the characters and their lives as hallow and unlikable. Yeah, this competing to pay billions of dollars for a media empire so democracy doesn't die in darkness and they can resolve their daddy issues ultimately doesn't matter. The haute bourgeois are revealed as empty vessels, emotionally stunted children, who don't really care about anything or do that much besides shuffle money around. Why am I watching this though
No.33248
>>33247I guess it's like a modern day comedy of manners
Out of all of the disgustingly fascistic characters on the show, Tom is definitely up there
He's even more of a bloodhound than Roman, who's really just awkwardly going through the motions because he's scared of his father
No.33249
>>33245Eh, for a set up episode, it wasn’t bad
No.33250
>>33245i laughed at least
i don't like that they're making roman the level headed one
No.33251
>>33248really tom? i mean true he's the head of ATN
and that comment about the left and all that nazi apologia he does
still feels like he's a lib who doesn't realize he's a fascist yet
it's crazy how he was the one who dissed ravenclaw the best
No.33348
>>33251He's a hungry corporate grifter from the provinces
No.33354
>>33225>really?It's set in a magical high school for "outcasts" and they face racism from "normies" while they're also racist to said "normies"
The protagonist is a golden child from a rich family who works to bridge the divides or whatever
The high school drama bits are reminiscent of Euphoria, with all of the usual archetypes
No.33355
>>33354arent all the outcasts rich as fuck too
No.33412
>>33355The Adamses can only be the way they are because they're rich.
No.33418
What is the appeal of barry?
>>33412are the munsters and addams family any different?
No.33419
>>33418>What is the appeal of barry?It's about a guy that kills people
No.33426
>>33418I enjoy the black comedy aspect of Barry and the tension between him and other characters being on the cusp of making the right decision before either tragically making the wrong one or fate intervening to mess everything up.
Then there are some characters like Noho Hank that are just fun to watch.
I don't know how much longer I'm going to be invested in it though. Season 3 got a little weird in places and it kind of feels like it's running out of steam.
No.33433
>>33418I prefer Other Barry
No.33469
I'M LIKE A PLANT THAT LIVES ON ROCKS THAT DIE INSIDE OF ME
No.33470
>>32869Picard and STD suck. The hopes and dreams of star trek fans now rests with Lower Decks. At least it will probably get its full 7 seasons, it deserves them.
No.33474
>>33470>The hopes and dreams of star trek fans now rests with Lower DecksHeaven help us
No.33475
>>33470>Picard and STD suckFunny because Patrick Stewart often plays a character with STDs.
No.33493
Star Trek Discovery is AIDS and crabs.
I have never seen a single second of it but I am 100% confident in this review.
No.33494
>>33493I can confirm it is absolutely terrible. The production value is insane. It just couldn't deliver. Its shit.
No.33496
>>33494I was watching an episode of ds9 that looked like dogshit. The lasers O'Brien and Bashir had looked like spray painted water guns. The alien weapon that killed them in security camera footage was a photoshop flash effect. The sets were cheap cardboard. But its story and acting made it a fun and enjoyable watch that I'll remember fondly.
I guess I just think that it's a testament to whatever's wrong with the current television industry that original trek that looks like something you'd see on youtube will be remembered in high regard for decades to come while many times the budget of all the original series combined has been pumped into nutrek which is forgotten as soon as it airs.
No.33508
>>33496Old Trek was actually trying to make interesting stories and do social commentary and it involved a lot of interaction between the creative arms of the production instead of being driven by studio heads. O'Brien's entire character is a testament to this. He was originally just an extra but the crew liked Colm Meaney so much they wanted to keep bringing him back. They gave him a name. They made him transporter chief. They gave him an episode that introduced his wife. And then they brought him back as a main cast member in the next series. Meaney was personally very proud of his ancestors' involvement in labor movements and they wrote that into the show. They relied on the actors, directors, script writers, etc to figure out character and plot details instead of just a handful of producers hovering over the shoulders of a writers' room.
A lot of this is because the shows were seen as underdogs. Yes TOS was pretty popular, but nobody thought TNG or DS9 (or VOY or ENT for that matter) would be successful and they didn't exactly have huge budgets, so the studios weren't trying to micromanage things. It's also a product of the era. TV studios don't think in terms of having a catalog as much as they used to and now focus more on having individual shows be profitable. HBO was one of the last ones with that attitude but after the merger with Discovery they started axing shows that aren't profitable. (an especially dumb attitude to have with a streaming service but I digress) Something as recognizable as Star Trek is today is expected to do impressive numbers and so they go with the conventional wisdom that more budget gets more eyeballs.
It's also reflected in the serialization of the storylines instead of having the ability to be episodic, because you have to get the audience addicted to the show basically. You want them hanging on to every episode and discussing the show online with the communityTM during their free time. The way that the older Trek shows were run was always a mystery to the executives and isn't really an option any more even if it might still be profitable if they actually did it. That's part of why a lot of entertainment has moved toward the periphery with people producing content for "democratized" platforms like youtube, tiktok, or smaller streaming services. The big studios are really only good at one kind of production and it's really only viable if you can turn it into a big sensation. Everything is trying to be Game of Thrones now, but it just doesn't work for every kind of story.
No.33514
>>33508DS9 was partly serialized.
About Game of Thrones, yeah. The most annoying thing is that everyone tries to be edgy these days, like you now have people swearing all the time in Star Trek und you also have gore. I think there is one scene in TNG where someone drops an f-bomb but that worked because it was a unique moment, now it's overdone.
No.33515
>>33514So fucking true honestly. Where's my cozy comfy Star Trek, the one that makes me dream of a better future for humanity?? Instead they give us gratuitous torture scenes and a grimdark Starfleet. Boooooooooring.
>>33474Have you not seen Lower Decks yet? Please give it a chance, it's great. If you want to start with the best episode to see if you like it, "wej Duj" S2E9 is one of the most delightful episodes in the franchise. LWD is pretty episodic so you wouldn't really be missing any context by skipping episodes.
No.33516
>>33515> grimdark StarfleetBeen watching TNG and I think the utopian Starfleet is a myth of the 90s, where we all pretend that the US is a benevolent, rational, good superpower without critically analyzing what's going on. Specifically I watched The Ensigns of Command, where Starfleet enforces a relocation of a colony that was unknowingly established in hostile alien space. No talk of Starfleet protecting the colonists, the only rational choice presented is to forcibly transport them away in order to comply with the letter of the law.
I also watched the last episode with Ro. Similar plot line there where the Federation is forcibly relocating people because it violates a treaty. And how do we explain all these "bad admirals" in every episode? The fact that they want to disassemble Data, that they they can't cognize him as a living thing? Sure, Picard is nice and refined, Hermann Goering was great at dinner parties too.
What I'm saying is that Starfleet is Space Nazis (America)
No.33518
>>33516I guess so but at least they are communist post-scarcity space Nazi Americans. They just aren't perfect for the plot drama, but everyone in the Federation is fed and housed and no one has to work for money. That's got to count for something right?
No.33519
>>33517I hate how Section 31 is the only thing from DS9 the current writers actually want to develop. How lame.
No.33520
>>33519The current season of Picard has changelings
No.33521
>>33520Hmm that does sound intriguing but I'm worried it will still cause me psychic damage to watch it like the first season did.
No.33571
New Succession episode was funny
No.33669
Last Picard episode had flaws but it was decent compared to all the other shit. Just stop with all the fucking fan service
No.33671
>>33669> Just stop with all the fucking fan serviceThat's all the content though. There's no television show that's separate from reanimating the ghouls.
No.33679
>>33519Riker's double is still out there, IDK how that only ever came up again in one DS9 episode and (I assume) was never mentioned in Picard.
No.33680
New Succession episode was decent. Lots of delicious intrigue that I haven't really seen since the first season. Greg is hilarious. It's nice seeing Tom get ratfucked from all directions.
No.33687
>>33516>the only rational choice presented is to forcibly transport them away in order to comply with the letter of the law. Because if they don't the aliens they've negotiated this treaty with will just wipe out the colonists.
ALl this "the federation are nazis" shit always comes down to people consciously misconstruing shit in order to make the federation evil.
No.33688
>>33687>ALl this "the federation are nazis" shit always comes down to people consciously misconstruing shit in order to make the federation evil.It's usually rooted in anti-communism that conflates communism with fascism.
No.33689
>>33688I mean the federation are basically NATO in space, of course from the perspective of the show they are good, the same as NATO is good to Americans, if Star Trek was actually real, the federation would probably be imperialist AF
No.33713
>>33682as a kendoll, it was not satisfying
my boy is growing evil
No.33715
>>33689>if Star Trek was actually real, the federation would probably be imperialist AFThe federation is in regular conflict with empires who are rival factions and foils to the Federation. Imperialism is consistently portrayed as bad.
>I mean the federation are basically NATO in spaceThey're closer to the Eastern Bloc.
No.33719
>>33516Wouldn't go so far as to say they're "Space Nazis" and I hope you're embellishing because that sort of reading isn't supported by anything in the actual show but I agree that Berman era Trek being utopian is mostly a myth. I think it's a modern myth, though, constructed in response to Nu-Trek's edginess. I don't think it was as common a view in the 90s.
Even in TNG (which is usually held up as the cheeriest and purest of the 90s Trek shows) Starfleet can be corrupt, incompetent, and shady. A lot of the galaxy outside of Federation home worlds ranges from hard-up to basically lawless.
No.33728
>>33515Reminder that Star Trek is actually existing Posadism arising from a period of multipolarity and popular uprisings on Earth
But yeah, TNG-era Federation is just a liberal NATO that betrays planets full of colonists to the Cardies and does nothing to stop their plunder of Bajor, and actually gets pissed that the Klingons invade them to put an end to their shenanigans (mirroring the situation in Ukraine, with Gowron as Putin). Sisko takes the Maquis uprising personally and goes to the length of bombing their planets out of outrage that they violated his sacred laws and regulations. The Fed is a bunch of libs that kneel at the altar of status quo and legality.
No.33742
>>33728you have a really skewed interpretation of events in the show
No.33744
>>33728>betrays planets full of colonists to the CardiesThe Maquis didn't want to be in the Federation any more so they're not entitled to Federation protection. Idk what you expect lmao.
>does nothing to stop [Cardassian] plunder of Bajor,It was out of their jurisdiction lmao. They only got involved after Bajor regained control and it became a neutral area instead of under control of the Cardassian rivals. Implying they should have gotten involved here is basically you complaining that they aren't
more NATO-like, being
world quadrant police. Interference would have entailed war with the Cardassians and likely would have just make things worse for all parties. Bajorans didn't like it but they were always self-centered religious bigots. If anything it's the Cardassians who are most similar to NATO, being that they are run by a deep state and use the liberal type of whitewashing to justify exploiting underdeveloped planets.
No.33745
>>33744>CardassiansNow's as good a time as any to bring up my observation that despite the Cardassians and Bajorans being commonly interpreted as paralleling Nazi Germany and the Jews, I always felt like the occupation was more analogous to the British Raj. There is homophony between "Vedek" and "Vedic" but I don't think it was intentional on the writers' part.
The Jewish-Bajoran parallel seems more explicit in TNG's "Ensign Ro." I kind of wish DS9 had brought up the Bajoran diaspora more. I have a headcanon that the collective term Bajora (which was later retconned) as used in that episode refers specifically to dispossessed/diaspora Bajorans instead of homeworlders.
No.33746
>>33745Comparing the Cardassian occupation of Bajor to the Holocaust specifically is like "read another book" but it's "remember another genocide."
No.33748
>>33745>I have a headcanon that the collective term Bajora (which was later retconned) as used in that episode refers specifically to dispossessed/diaspora Bajorans instead of homeworlders.That's a neat idea.
No.33749
>>33247No story requires you to morally sympathize with any of the characters. This mentality is how you get drooling morons like
>>33713.
No.33765
>>32319I guess Kendall and Tom are fucked now, too
Shiv is back I guess
It really does feel like the show is ending now
No.33766
New succession episode was ok, but Swedish is such a profoundly goofy language I can’t take it seriously
No.33822
Raised By Wolves is too depressing and boring to watch
It's a Robinsonade given a sci-fi sheen
No.33825
>>33766unfortunately sweden is real
mattson was interesting and but then he just became a creep that whole racist bit about france, (the whole bit, coinciding with the currently ongoing french riots, feels very psychic
>>33824how about i hug you instead?
No.33848
>>33825You will never fuck the fictional rich rapist-vibe guy
No.33849
Kendall is the realest capitalist
Using his dead father's corpse, shambling it to say fake things to sell a fake product
Lenin couldn't have said it better
>>33848Don't even know what this means
No.33850
I’m watching succession and mad men concurrently and while succession is good and all, mad men is really highlighting the mediocre writing/dialogue in the former.
I’m getting kinda tired of the “realistic dialogue = say “ummmm” and stutter every 5 seconds while making faces” approach.
No.33851
>>33849>Kendall is the realest capitalist>Using his dead father's corpse, shambling it to say fake things to sell a fake productWow that's really good analysis and critique keep us updated on any more groundbreaking developments in Marxism that you come up with bro
No.33852
>>33850well succession is a comedy whereas mad men isn't, also succession is trying to illustrate the retardification of rich people/corporate society where they're all irony bros now
No.33853
>>29019>The next generation of Art generating AI will be used to directly transform books into movies, studios and acotrs no longer needed, maximum profits!Netflix has already been using "algorithms" to determine what shows to make since their first one, House of Cards.
No.33854
>>33853That explains a lot
No.33858
It would be so funny if Waystar's stock value tanked as a result of Kendall's hardballing and they have to sell it for pennies in the end
No.33860
>>33852My point was it isn’t funny enough to be a good comedy, and it isn’t smart enough to be a good drama, of which it tries to be both. Still a 3/5 show tho, better than average.
No.33861
>>33860It feels pretentious, or maybe better to say the discourse around it does. It's not a bad show, I like it, but there's something in the air about how it's
really saying
something and I don't get that at all.
No.33870
>>33861t. corn fed basic from hockey town
No.33885
>>33870you are corn eater mother fucker
No.33890
What's succession about and why should I watch it?
No.33893
I've decided: the day I kill myself is when a streaming service makes an adaptation of the Accidental Death of an Anarchist.
No.33895
>>33890Look it up and watch for yourself
No.33896
>>33890It’s about rich failsons trying to take over their fathers media conglomerate.
It’s a pretty good waste of time. The plot goes nowhere, but it’s relatively short enough to binge.
No.33897
>>33890>>33896ye I thought I wouldn't like it but I was convinced to watch it and it's funny, lots of richoids being miserable/retarded, and showing the hollowed out post ironic corporate world, it's a fun time
No.33917
>>33890don't think there's any show that SHOULD be watched
it's a fun comedy that doesn't glamorize the rich tho, those mfers are always miserable and shitting themselves
No.33921
>>33916death to the cia asset dalai lama
No.33923
>>33922Family guy sucks. Fucking recycled animations and lazy artstyle with pedestrian "humor".
No.33926
So like, what exactly is 'television' these days? Like I can tell that it's not strictly "stuff on the TV" because stuff like Netflix counts. Is it episodes? Does Helluva Boss count as a TV show?
No.33927
>>33926stuff on YT doesn't count as TV IMO, unless maybe it's on Youtube Red and you have to pay for it, and it's produced like a TV show
No.33928
>>33922>>33923I mean yea, this was pretty retarded. The whole point is that Logan is an acerbic asshole with massive ego issues, he simultaneously wants to rule forever but also wants to feel like he is a good father in some way and 'building a legacy'.
No.33935
>>33922waow
He's just like me
No.33943
New Succession
Greg is such a disgusting weasel
I feel like Gerri is Waystar's Ebba
The amount of dirt she has on the whole company and the Roys, lol
No.33947
>>33923NOOOOOO this silly cartoon show is not a masterpiece urgh the west has fallen
No.33958
>>33943Greg’s actors is a pedo too, so the shoe fits
No.33964
>>33963There are online allegations of him creeping on minors and following uh young Instagram models
No.33965
>>33947>the west has fallenWhat? What's with the /pol/ meme
No.33973
>>33963Multiple people say that he’s had sex with minors, as a 30 year old man. I’m inclined to believe them because evidently he’s well known within the community as a man whore.
No.33983
>>33923Try The Orville McFarlane's writing is much more refined here because it's a consistent storyline and not just random scenes mashed together like Family Guy.
No.33984
Any good sci-fi show on right now? I've already watched The Expanse, Andor and all of Star Trek.
No.33993
3 body problem 2023 or if you want a movie extravaganza Wandering earth 1 + 2. I've basically seen every sci fi thing and these were like a breath of fresh air. Amazing attention to detail.
No.33994
>>33993also watching the french sci fi series Missions right now. There's not many new themes but it's good low budget sci fi.
No.34005
>>33994Watching the first episode right now. I like it, but yeah the tropes from previous films are everywhere.
I always wanted to watch Three Body Problem but I fear it's not up my alley if it's just technical science without much character development.
No.34007
>>34005Characters in 3 body are fully developed imo. I really enjoyed the tv series character depiction, even aspects that aren't usually my thing. Maybe it's the Chinapilling. I highly recommend it, all 30 episodes lol.
No.34022
>>33928Everyone making fun of this show doesn't realize that that's exactly the joke
The middle class is full of worthless people that no one needs that should be starved to death already
No.34026
>>33983It's much more refined because every other episode is lifted from tng
No.34029
>>34026still better than nutrek
No.34030
>>33850uh it's shot in a cinéma vérité because they're not trying to glamorize the characters
No.34031
>>34030cinéma vérité style*
No.34032
>>33850I started watching Mad Men with my BF partly inspired by this post, and man, the dialog is really on the nose a lot of the time. I definitely get a more 'real' feeling from Succession and feel like it's better written, the plot points/decisions in Mad Men come out of nowhere a lot of the time and it feels like they're trying to ape the Sopranos but in that show the sometimes crazy stuff feels more earned because these are mobsters, whereas here they're just ad execs/bored housewives but still do insane shit.
No.34033
>>34030A key requirement of good cinéma vérité is to sound authentic/like actual improvised dialogue. Successions dialogue is the furthest thing from natural.
No.34034
>>34032 I can’t really think of any “insane shit” mad men characters do. The plot is relatively tame and fits the setting just fine imo
No.34035
>>34034In series one:
Betty grabs a fucking rifle and starts shooting at the neighbours pigeons at the end of one episode, this is basically treated as a gag and never mentioned again, this is in a hyper conservative and judgmental suburban community mind youPete grabs a package off Draper's desk which just happens to be the package from his brother with his whole backstory (this felt like something very lazy that only happened to drive the plot, and also why did Pete even do it in the first place)Peggy doesn't notice somehow that she's 8 months pregnant, I know sex education wasn't the best back then but come on No.34037
>>34033If there's one thing you can't attack Succession on, it's the realism of the acting and dialogue, a lot of it improvised
No.34038
>>34035Oh yeah and I completely forgot
Betty giving Glen (a literal ten year old with a crush on her) a lock of her hair, and then later finding him in a parking lot and basically confiding in him and trying to get some meaning in her life from him despite his parents telling her to stay away from him). No.34039
>>33943Let's build another India huehehueuhuhe
Mattson's whole scheme is so exposed now, Basically irl disney+ No.34040
>>33921this is why we've never gotten a freakazoid movie, smh
No.34041
>>33923GO ON THEN, YOU NOSY FUCKING PEDESTRIANS
god that shit was so funny last season
No.34042
>>34037>a lot of it’s improvised Source? The only people I see saying improv plays a significant role is redditors. Actual interviews with cast and crew seems to indicate it very rarely happens, and when it does, it’s almost always physical improvisation (like Tom kissing Greg), not dialogue.
Besides, even if a show is 100% improvised, that doesn’t mean it’s automatically realistic. If I filmed myself yelling completely random gibberish off the top of my head, does that make it “realistic dialogue” just cause it’s improvised on my part?
No.34043
>>34035Okay I stand corrected lmao, yeah the Betty shooting birds thing was the most absurd thing Ive seen so far (I’m at S6).
Though I think your second example isn’t ”insane”; it’s established (in S1 at least) that Pete and Don dislike each other, having somewhat of a rivalry, and that Pete is a pretty slimy nepotite, so obviously he’s interested in a blatantly important, and unattended package that Don received, and likely doesn’t have much respect for other peoples things given his relatively silver spoon background, wherein he barely had to earn his place in the firm in the first place.
As for your third point, initially I agreed, and thought that was asinine, but I researched it and not knowing you’re pregnant until you’re in labor is relatively common. Some people legit go to the bathroom and give birth unknowingly. It happens more often than you’d think, and so I’d call it realistic.
No.34044
>>34038Idk the lock of hair thing doesn’t seem far fetched. There’s nothing inherently sexual or weird about a small bit of hair.
And yeah, it’s objectively absurd that a 30 year old would confide in a kid, but I think that was kinda the point. It’s supposed to show the absolute state of Betty’s deterioration as a housewife, and how she has no volition, voice or void to vent into, resorting to her only nonjudgmental option: a tween. It echos back to how her psychiatrist told Don that she still has the mentality of a literal child. It’s supposed to be laughable and condemnable, because it is, but it’s those things in an effort to convey her depression.
Also, above all, Betty is kinda just massively mentally unstable, and that’s a defining trait that doesn’t just go away, relegated as a season 1 plot device. If she was a-ok for the rest of the show, I’d agree it was out of character and “insane” but they follow up.
No.34047
>>34029I can't deny that. I'll admit that I do like The Orville. I just wish it didn't feel so much like the generic version of brand name Trek. I guess it's like nutrek being so fucking awful is more of a boost to it than any virtue of Orville's.
No.34048
>>34047I guess what bothers me the most about Orville is that it does have the seeds of something potentially really great in it but I don't really expect them to ever bear fruit.
No.34050
Yellow jackets is pretty good if you want some slop to watch. Premise is 'lord of the flies' but with highschool girl sports team, interlaced with their travails in the present.
No.34055
>>34050Stopped watching
I don't mind slop too much, but slop that takes itself seriously makes me clock out
No.34056
>>34055Also, it's about a bunch of white suburbanites in New Jersey, so I couldn't really feel any suspense over any harm coming to them
No.34076
the new succ
was mid but i liked that it showed how fake capitalist democracy is and that capitalists even if they don't agree with fascists will align with them for their own goal
like to see stuff that radicalizes people, just hope they remember it
No.34084
>>34076Yeah, it was pretty good. I liked Kendall's non-reactions. "Well he's bad but uhhhh… you know uhhh… maybe If I just do nothing for long enough, this situation will resolve it without me having to explicitly support a fascist". It's obvious what he wants, he just wants someone else to pull the trigger.
You really think this will radicalize people? I like it but seems like a retelling of Trump.
No.34086
>>34076It won't radicalize anyone, also people already know rich people are cynical
It's more about how Fox News helped create a Big Lie for Trump by calling his victory even though he probably lost in reality, making people think the election was "stolen"
No.34088
>>34086Big Lie narrative*
No.34089
>>34086ACTSHUALLY this is much more analogous to Bush vs Gore 2000, an election that was actually stolen in a similar method to this
No.34091
>>34089They called it after the polls closed, and they're not the Supreme Court, so I doubt they have any effect or it's similar to 2000
No.34092
>>34091>>34089Also there was literally a scene where Mencken explicitly said to Roman's face that he wanted to create a stolen election narrative in the event that he lost
Do the average TV watchers just like stare at the screen like a cat does or something? Is it just strange shapes and sounds to you people?
No.34093
Roman is the most heavy-handed archetype of a fascist ever
An idle bourgeois that hides his reactionary impulses behind fake-witty detachment
Severely abused by his father but dismisses the violence as natural and acceptable
Has psychosexual mommy issues
Even his name references the ancient empire which the Italian Fascists sought to revive
No.34145
>>34142Facts are facts. They don't go away in a week.
No.34146
>>34145Petit-bourgeois love their insignificant distractions
No.34192
Average Succession fan will look at a scene where you get to laugh at fictional rich dipshits fucking up and go "aww that's so sad :("
Dying pig Roman
No.34279
Kind of coming around to TV shows
They're like movies, but unpretentious and also it's nice to get into the characters as a sort of escapism
No.34281
>>34192kek
i mean he did look like a puppy getting kicked, orphaned in the street after his
father diedbut then you remember what he was right before that, stupid edgy fashy cunt
that line he says in s3, e-girl juul pods and conspiracy theories
*spit*
that was the moment i decided to hate on that character
No.34282
>>34093it was so fucking funny when he broke down
you knew it from the momment he was making incestous joke turned up to a 11
the lil bitch was gonna lose when CHAD EWAN DABBED and spoke, his lines were so great
Logan Roy made men's heart a little meaner and the sky's darker
No.34283
>>34140is he actually pro trans, also crazy that dr.han is also the creator of the show
did anyone else see the korean version? is it good, not seen any clips
No.34287
>>34146petit bourgeois is when watching tv
No.34318
Anyone here watch the Americans?
Its about KGB sleeper agents, so it clearly had high risk of being lib shit but I hear good reviews.
No.34319
>>34318i watched a whole retrospective on it, until about about 1 season
Can't tell if it's lib or not, I guess it goes for everyone is wrong
No.34325
>>34281I like to think his masochism comes out of a sort of repressed guilt
He's a beaten dog raised by a racist piece of shit and there's so many bad things that were normalized into him
No.34331
>>34325dd you watch the finale
the leaks were true…
No.34334
Barry finale sucked, although I never liked the show anyways
Succession finale was an appropriately depressing and unsatisfying end to a depressing and unsatisfying show
No.34335
I really can’t tell if it’s the writers and directors incompetence, or if shiv and Roman just simply cannot act at all, (or more likely, both) but man does the show feel amateur a lot.
Overall score; 5.9/10 better than average but held back by redundant plot, one note characters and bad actors/writing.
No.34336
>>34335The characters are meant to be one note, they're repressed fuck-ups, but yeah it's not worth nearly 40 hours of your life
No.34338
>>34336I liked season 1 though, when everything was fresh. If it was just that season alone, this I would be a great show, but unfortunately 3 other redundant seasons exist
No.34340
>>34334The ending was pretty satisfying. Every major character fell into place perfectly.
Tom putting the bidding sticker on Greg was hilariously sweet. Also, it's funny how Kendall expected Shiv to stick with him after the election thing. No.34341
>>34340I feel it was a bit of an anticlimax, the election episode felt a lot more dramatic than this. Everything prior to the boardroom I liked but that felt weak.
No.34342
>>34341Endings don't have to be climactic.
It's fitting that the Roy siblings would retire so pathetically. No.34345
>>34342Yeah but they clearly wanted it to be climactic when they did the “sibling switches side” reveal for the 100th time
No.34349
lame ending, but ig real under capitalism
these are all people who would install fascists
No.34350
>>34333yeah
like during the ending, i was feeling all these things but then i realised,
they are all rich fuckers, they've not really lost anything, like it's not that serious
honestly the ones who got out truly won
No.34351
>>34338true
people jack off sucession way too much when after s2, where it could go some bold places
it just retreads the same step with SHOCKING TWIST!
and just tom set-up for s4 No.34363
first season of search party is actually pretty good.
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