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 No.1574396

Leftypedia lived - Leftypedia lives - Leftypedia will live!

Greetings, comrades. Leftypedia, the radical encyclopedia, should be back in a usable state. We have more moderators, which will help with spam from now on, and images are slowly being repopulated for your viewing pleasure. The new domain has been up and running for a while at https://wiki.leftypol.org, and we've imported the vast majority of content that was on the old site while adding a lot of new stuff. I hope that Anons can come back and fill in any content that was lost.

For those unaware, Leftypedia is an original /leftypol/ project dedicated to combating the disinformation of mainstream media and academic sources, as well as discussing leftist history, theory, and practice from a multi-sectarian viewpoint. We welcome additions from different leftist perspectives provided that they are properly sourced and well argued. In addition, we maintain a separate space, tentatively titled "Essays", for more subjective or polemic work.

The original thread is here: >>>/edu/3780
You can find Leftypedia at: https://wiki.leftypol.org
Help for new editors: https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Leftypedia:Community_portal

 No.1574401

Very nice

 No.1574406

Greetings you have competition
>>>/edu/20059

https://prolewiki.org/

 No.1574408

>>1574406
Friendly competition. We have already talked about collaborating in the past

 No.1574511

>>1574406
ProleWiki is explicitly M-L focused, so neither need to really compete. And either way, it's all open knowledge, its not like these sites are making money off of users in a zero-sum paradigm. It's digital text, you can literally just link (or even copypaste)

 No.1574517

>>1574511
I was hoping for → >>1574408

 No.1574658

BIG UP

 No.1574882

So shouldnt we just start by copy pasting most articles from other places to consolidate a base as per the guidelines?

 No.1575181

>>1574882
You mean the "quantity over quality" thing? I don't know who wrote that or why, but I had enough trouble restoring those old pages that I didn't bother revising them. My take is: quantity > quality in terms of information; quality > quantity in terms of actual page count, editing, and writing. One good article is better than 20 "stubs".
You could also basically just put sources, like good articles or books, in the Suggestion box or even in this thread (or both). And preferably people who like to edit Wikis will come around and synthesize the info.

What kind of pages were you thinking about copy-pasting?

 No.1575208

>no Visual Editor

 No.1575232

>>1575208
Does this link work?
https://wiki.leftypol.org/index.php?title=PAGE_TITLE&veaction=edit
I don't use the Visual Editor myself, so I wouldn't know where to find the button, but others use it just fine.

 No.1575242

Thanks anons, very cool.

 No.1576757

>>1574396
Leftypedia is a bit shit, it is not an open wiki project, meaning that all your edits are subject to review before they are accepted, which takes a very long time, this breaks up the editing process to the point it makes it pretty unisable.
If i was you anons i would not waste your time, nothing personal to the project but it will never last or gain a critical mass of editors how it is set up.

 No.1576862

>>1576757
I was not around when the policies were set up on leftypedia.org – but I have never had this issue editing. If this is a policy in place I am not aware of it. All I had to do was create an account.

 No.1576914

>>1576862
My bad then, I shall try to edit again some time if this is no longer the case.

 No.1578239

Onion address is fucked.

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 No.1579796

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 No.1580811

>>1574396
Well done comrades. Question : what is the process around submitting / vetting essays ?

 No.1580877

>>1580811
If you are a vetted (not banned) user, you can write an essay.

I need to study Wiki policy more before I try to formulate strict rules. Wikipedia wrote their policies over years and years, and I think it would be better to start editing rather than worry about policy right now. But any policy suggestions are appreciated.

>>1578239
>>1579716
Yes, I have asked devs about it and am waiting on a response. Sorry for the inconvenience.

>>1579796
https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall

 No.1580888

>>1580877
I see . IMO the project has value as a compendium for these kinds of perspectives . There actually are some pretty smart users on this board , with points of view that you really can’t find anywhere else on the internet due to algorithmic suppression of leftist ideas, distraction , or the general intellectual banality of the user base .

I’d invite those maintaining the project to view it more as a compendium to capture that content which is unique to this platform , rather than just another wiki . Which might be the idea all along. This is why I like the Essays feature .

 No.1580900

>>1580888
Everything you said is correct. The Essay space is intended to put in one place the gems that now are scattered from Reddit to /leftypol/ and beyond. The main purpose of moderating the Essay system would be to prevent one or two motivated spammers from monopolizing or abusing the namespace somehow.

 No.1582459

> (…) put in one place the gems that now are scattered from Reddit to (…)
Oh brother
Thank god I can read wikirouge

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 No.1587501

>>1574406
Not even a Trotskyist, but come on

 No.1587588

>>1587501
Based wiki.

 No.1587600

>>1587501
Not exactly surprised the "ML encyclopedia" turns out to be silly and unserious. Trots can be obnoxious assholes but at least they put a semblance of professionalism with wikirouge and marxists.org.

 No.1587638

>>1587600
Cool, we got all the kids.

 No.1596424

>>1587501
trotsissies in shambles

 No.1598395

>>1587600
I was not aware that marxists.org was a "trot" website. Us Marxist-Leninists make great use of Marxists.org.

 No.1598893

>>1598395
Maybe he's talking about marxists.com, but the inclusion of anarchists on marxists.org seems like a Trot thing to do.

 No.1600648

>>1598395
They explicitly side with the Trotskyist perspective.

 No.1600654

>>1598395
>>1598893
Trots bought a lot of domains with "marx" in the 90s. marxists.org is one of them.
https://www.marxists.org/glossary/people/s/t.htm#stalin
However they have still archived the writings of "Stalinists" anyway despite their opposition to it.

 No.1602147

File: 1695126471655.png (10.04 KB, 290x150, ClipboardImage.png)

lmao

 No.1602188

File: 1695130812582.mp4 (553.38 KB, 1280x720, marxists.org.mp4)

>>1600648
another L for MLs

 No.1602497

>>1602188
That’s the thing about Trotskyists. They actually organize on a street level. They actually organize on an internet level. They actually meet and run advocacy groups. They actually send each other pamphlets. They actually organize on an international level despite their differences.

The only organized behavior I usually see from Stalinists is their whining about Trotskyists on social media and image boards. Usually when I talk to a Stalinist they read a few good articles from Stalin when he was under Lenin, and haven’t read anything by Trotsky.

 No.1602541

>>1602497
Literally all I've ever seen Trotskyists do "on a street level" is whine about getting kicked out of a Pro-Palestine action for preaching two-state solution shit and interrupting a UPS Teamsters practice picket to pass out flyers while actively avoiding conversation with the workers.

I'm not gonna pretend that Trotskyists can't possibly do good work (marxists.org is objectively good work done in tandem with Marxists of other tendencies), or align with the revolutionary struggle when it comes down to the critical moment, but Trotskyism has ultimately failed to produce a vital revolutionary movement capable of advancing past the limitations of Marxism-Leninism, and has instead produced an orthodox Leninism which struggles to find a home outside of the intelligentsia.

 No.1602589

>>1602541
Oh really. That’s funny, because I’ve seen Trotskyists work help organize rank-and-file committees on unions, work with university faculty to organize collective action against cuts, organize anti-war demonstrations, setup online Marxist libraries, setup online Marxist classes, and fly overseas to meet for larger international meetings.

You must not get out of your echo chamber very frequently.

 No.1602593

>>1602589
>I’ve seen Trotskyists work help organize rank-and-file committees on unions, work with university faculty to organize collective action against cuts, organize anti-war demonstrations, setup online Marxist libraries, setup online Marxist classes, and fly overseas to meet for larger international meetings.

The trotskyites were only being strategic. They are infiltrating those groups, to maintain their petty bourgeois hegemony for when it is inevitably challeneged further down the line; the best and most powerful trotskyites are full-time wreckers after all, that's how they sustain themselves. This is the theory of permanent counter-revolution in practice.

 No.1602595

>>1602589
Hell my good friend’s Trotskyist organization sends me a load of newspapers and pamphlets to pass out twice a month. They’ve connected me with a lot of different people who are doing stuff on a street level. Like I know Trotsky looks weird, and he’s definitely kind of a beta the way Stalin was able to ice pick him like that, but Trotskyists organizations are very active.
>>1602541
>but Trotskyism has ultimately failed to produce a vital revolutionary movement capable of advancing past the limitations of Marxism-Leninism, and has instead produced an orthodox Leninism which struggles to find a home outside of the intelligentsia.
Why haven’t Stalinists or Maoists started the one true bloody Marxist revolution yet? For that matter why haven’t you? Hmmm?

 No.1602598

>>1602593
>The trotskyites were only being strategic. They are infiltrating those groups, to maintain their petty bourgeois hegemony for when it is inevitably challeneged further down the line
Sure, all the Trotskyists I know are secretly driven by the motivation to maintain the petty bourgeois status! It all makes sense now thumbs_up.png.

 No.1602627

>>1602598
If capitalists are vampires, then trotskyites are just fucking mosquitoes.

All trotskyites start as mosquitoe larvae: an infantile bastardization of marxism; eventually, they're fucking everywhere and they're always buzzing around spreading their noise - preaching their gospel. They suck the life from the people, tricking them into paying their dues, then they leave the people with nothing but fever dreams and malaria. Once a trotskyite has sucked enough and grown to a point they're indistinguishable, fundamentally, from any capitalist. Once they have power, they enthrall their filthy lumpens, those who have the free time, into doing their bidding. Once the host - whatever org they're wrecking - has died, they move onto the next.

 No.1602785

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>>1598395
>>1600648
As someone who actively volunteers for Marxists.org I can fill you in on the whole Trot / Anti-Stalinist thing:

So the whole project started as far back as 1990 when various Marxists on Usenet started sharing Marxist texts in plaintext (most of which, by the way, were typed out by hand instead of OCR scanning, and which are still hosted to this day - albeit with several hard-to-spot errors and tiny editorial changes as a result). The Marx Engels Online Library was founded as a Gopher site in 1993 by a guy called Zodiac who hosted it on a university web server (for another fun fact, the whole project was almost wiped out in 1995 after a Wall Street Journal article mentioned that "even communists have found a home on the world wide web" and enraged porkies had the site deleted). Anyway, the project started to gain many volunteers who wanted to expand into authors other than Marx and Engels - Zodiac acquiesced at first, but later in 1998 claimed that expanding with a Trotsky archive and other authors would lead the site into "sectarianism" and deleted all authors but Marx and Engels.

After this coup, the rest of the volunteers split from Zodiac and founded Marxists.org, which would "always be based on democratic decision-making" (read: a big mailing list where very few votes are taken and volunteers mostly do their own thing). Even though the group remained committed to anti-sectarianism and political independence - however, this didn't apply to Stalinism, and a lot of editorial content was eager to tell readers that true Marxism was anti-Stalinist (fun fact #3: the site was very nearly called MELT.org, for Marx Engels Lenin Trotsky). One vestigial sign of this attitude is that Stalin's archive is located in the "reference" folder - meaning he is sorted with pre-Marxists and anti-Marxists like Bakunin and even Milton Friedman: trotsky.org/reference/archive/stalin The MIA stopped sorting authors into Marxists and non-Marxists in 2007 but the directory structure remains; however, to this day it's in the MIA charter that the Selected Marxists page "will not include Stalin or Mao".

Probably the vast majority of editorial content is 20+ years old now though, and plenty of hardline ML stuff is on Marxists.org today. As for the current political stance of volunteers, I'd say there's a slant towards Trotskyism or especially post-Trotskyism, but very little editorial content is still being written today vs pure archival work. The Trot slant is mostly thanks to the old guard who built the site in the late 90s and are still active today (in particular, it seems there are many ex-Healyites - a "big three" Trot group that collapsed in the late 80s and therefore had a lot of ex-members with a lot of time on their hands).

So after that rambling wall of text, here's the TL;DR: the editorial consensus back when the site was built in the late 90s and early 2000s was anti-Stalinist, but nowadays there are many ML volunteers and the tendency is tolerated, in keeping with the non-sectarian educational mission of the site. If you guys want me to try and get the worst anti-Stalinist lines toned down or rewritten, I can raise them with the Steering Committee. At this juncture I'm guessing they would accept it.

 No.1602798

>>1602589
Oh trust me, I'm plenty out of any "echo chamber". Working in the tenant struggle makes sure you never have the opportunity. I feel like I should reiterate, though: I'm not gonna pretend that Trotskyists can't possibly do good work. This isn't personal or anything, I've read plenty of Trotsky and have essentially the same opinion as what revolutionaries like Walter Rodney have laid out: man lost the plot after Lenin died, and it became more about him than the actual movement, and Trotskyist organizations are by and large alienated from the genuine revolutionary movement. Trotskyists aren't fighting in the streets or in the countryside, Trotskyists aren't seizing state power, Trotskyists aren't generating new formations and strategies for making revolution, and instead fell to the same economism and chauvinism that the 3rd International parties would mostly find themselves mired in after Stalin's death. Say what you will about Marxism-Leninism, these parties and revolutionary movements have had the vitality to creatively produce solutions to the particularities of their conditions (Focoism, Protracted People's War, Urban Guerilla War, etc.) and seize state power, while Trotskyism dogmatically attaches itself to the insurrectionary model which so far has only seen success in the Russian Revolution.

I also think it needs to be said that while all of what you listed can be great work, rank-and-file union committees are simply not the same as organizing alongside the labor movement towards revolution. The labor movement in the west, and especially in the United States and UK, is completely reformist and the communists involved economistic. Trotskyism has done nothing to resolve this beyond entryism. University and education union organizing likewise (and I'm saying this as a teacher) only has a thin veneer of greater radicalism.

The most advanced anti-war and anti-imperialist action that Trotskyism has produced is that outlined by Sam Marcy, and his practice led to a break with the SWP and resulted in parties which have all seen success distancing themselves from Trotskyism, rather than embracing it. Even then, the militancy of these demonstrations is entirely rhetorical. They might even call back to the phrase "by any means necessary", but frankly I haven't met a single Trotskyist in my organizing that would go beyond saying those words. There's no room in their revolution for the insurrection and violence they speak of.

As I previously stated, marxists.org is objectively great work. That being said, though the website's originators are Trotskyist, that team of people haven't done everything on that site. For example, the Encyclopedia of Anti-Revisionism On-Line was a collaborative project that wouldn't have been possible without the active involvement of people who were entrenched in the history covered by that archive. It's also notable that outside of the impressive example of marxists.org, there aren't any projects of even close to comparable effort or notoriety. To talk of "libraries" as a plural is a bit of an exaggeration then, no?

Literally everyone does online marxist classes. I've done online marxist classes. These are possibly the simplest, easiest form of political education you can engage with, and unfortunately the one with the least impact on real organizing. Where I'm at, we've had far greater success with communist political education as part of leadership development between tenant union and party work.

International meetings are all well and good so long as they have a point. Trotskyists have a reputation for endlessly founding new "Fourth Internationals" for a reason. International meetings like the IMCWP, ICOR, ILPS, etc. all involve parties far more involved in active revolutionary struggle which tackle active points of disunity among Marxist-Leninists and Maoists with the hopes of achieving unity through struggle, rather than declaring new internationals to rally toward before unity is achieved (as an aside, the "Principally Maoist" ICL has made this identical error)

>>1602595
>Why haven’t Stalinists or Maoists started the one true bloody Marxist revolution yet? For that matter why haven’t you? Hmmm?
Laziest criticism possible. This can be equally levied at any Marxist tendency. There will never be ONE TRUE socialist revolution just as that has never happened with any previous mode of production. There will also never be just one true prophet of the revolution, regardless of how Trotskyists demand we dogmatically view Lenin and Trotsky. Continuity-rupture of one stage of a science into a new one is a collective effort, one which Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc. alone couldn't possibly hope to accomplish alone. If you disagree with what I've stated, fine. Actually engage with it like an adult and defend or adjust your position. This engagement is part of that collective effort, and I'm happy to take part.

 No.1602939

>>1602798
I am sorry but not all trots are entryist and many urban guerilla groups were trotskyist

 No.1603100

>>1602939
>not all trots are entryist
Sure, but Trotskyism as a tendency has repeatedly led to entryist practice in Trotskyist parties worldwide, something which you may not have observed firsthand, but I have. That Trotskyism has a reputation for this within the Communist movement independent of you or I, and an issue discussed even by Trotskyists, is further evidence to me of this consistent trend.
>many urban guerilla groups were trotskyist
And yet when conversations of urban guerilla groups arises they aren't the ones to come up, are they? No. In those conversations we talk about the Black Liberation Army, the Red Army Faction, the New People's Army, the People's Liberation Guerilla Army, the American Indian Movement, Weather Underground, etc. I don't dispute the existence of Trotskyist guerilla projects, I dispute their significance and effectiveness.

 No.1603125

>>1602785
Interesting post, thank you for your service comrade

 No.1603157

Going to ignore the shitflinging in this thread.

>>1602147
I saw this but didn't know how best to fix it as I am not an anarchist. Regardless I have made an attempt to organize it better.
https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Anarchism

A similar problem exists at the following page, where my ignorance of Maoism makes it hard for me to organize the different Maoism-s:
https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Maoism_(disambiguation)
My understanding is that "Maoism" as a term refers to several contradictory tendencies that are all derived from MZT, and that the word itself, when used in English, most often refers to pre-Sendero formulations such as that of the Panthers, Naxalites etc. But I have no sources to cite in this regard. I do not believe that Maoism most often refers to MLM and I support making "Maoism" back into a disambig page.

The main source of the weaknesses of this site is that very few editors use it at present, mainly myself. I am neither a Maoist nor an anarchist and therefore these pages have not been improved since they were slapped together on the old Leftypedia. I invite more knowledgeable users to contribute to the relevant pages if they feel that pages are biased.

 No.1603168

>>1602785
This post would make a good addition to the MIA page.
https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Marxists_Internet_Archive

>the whole project was almost wiped out in 1995 after a Wall Street Journal article mentioned that "even communists have found a home on the world wide web" and enraged porkies had the site deleted)

Do you happen to have an archive of this piece? The archives only go back to '97:
https://www.wsj.com/news/archive/years

 No.1603189

>>1603157
As a Maoist I'll try my hand at editing things. For those who might start some shit, no I'm not going to glorify Maoism or introduce "bias" or whatever, but I'll do my best to clarify different tendencies based on my understanding of things. Also I'll suggest an edit to "Shining Path", as the Communist Party of Peru doesn't refer to themselves as that. "Shining Path" was a name produced by the Peruvian dictatorship to make them sound scary and cultish.

 No.1603194

>>1603189
>As a Maoist
Glad to have you. Don't worry about bias too much, if something is biased the role of other users is to try and work it out. My hope is that the adversarial method will help us arrive at something approximating the consensus of this website, and that an impasse will result in some nice Essay arguments.

Would you mind weighing in on the Maoism discussion? It was started by a Hoxhaist of all people:
https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Talk:Maoism

"Your post was probably submitted" bruh I don't see no fucking post

 No.1603199

>>1603194
Made the edits. I'll hopefully be able to also elaborate on the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement in its own page as it's basically impossible to discuss the PCP and the formation of MLM as we know it today without talking about RIM.

 No.1603211

>>1603194
I'd like to weigh in on the talk page but I'm not seeing the button to reply like in Wikipedia's talk pages. I'll do it via editing source but just wanna say here this is the only method I'm seeing for doing it so it doesn't come off as vandalism.

 No.1603227

>>1603211
Comrade can you also point out that there are today different lines within MLM, as a results of the decades of praxis it has already had? I saw you are aware of the ICL debacle by your comment up here >>1602798
It would be great if this gets broader understanding among new Marxists, young communists.
As far as I can tell there are three. Gonzaloists, CPP+CPI(Maoist)s and Maoists who operate in the imperial core and have to adapt their praxis more to classical Leninist methods (for lack of better terms).

Also could be worth pointing out the many clear connections between Mao Zedong Thought, Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution on the theory of the (here) influential creative Marxist economist/computer scientist Paul Cockshott (from what I can tell he's not a strict MLM today, but, if one were to place his theories on a spectrum it would definitely be closer to Maoist concepts than those of a lot of other theorists today outside MLM, but there are also clear council communist leanings too for sure).

 No.1603229

>>1603211
Feel free to reply to the discussion, I would be glad to have more info on the topic - but you have already answered my question by confirming that MLM is the most common usage of the term.

 No.1603243

>>1603227
Personally I see two real lines within Maoism, "Gonzaloism" (a term I would strongly urge we not use on Leftypedia as, like "Shining Path", it's largely a pejorative) representing the left tendency of the movement and a more centrist line expressed by the non-ICL parties engaged in people's war and those who have expressed similar statements that the ICL is premature (unity isn't yet achieved). There is a rightist tendency as well, which I would vaguely place people like Cockshott into, but they're extremely marginal within the wider Maoist terrain and hold more influence within the rightist "anti-revisionist" ML parties like the CPGB-ML and PCUSA.

This all being said, this can all go into the actual MLM page, rather than the disambiguation. Additionally, as a critique of the project so far, on these pages I see a lot of editorializing and few, if any, sources. Though for pages like for the Communist Party of Peru we'll have the issue of few english-language sources and fewer primary sources from the party, that's no excuse for it to be in the state that it's in. It's not difficult to find well-sourced critiques of the PCP from Maoists such as https://maoistcommunistunion.com/red-pages/issue-3/a-critical-evaluation-of-gonzaloism/, so if editors want to take a critical tone, at least be well researched about it.

 No.1603331

>>1603168
My bad, it was actually Fortune magazine, not WSJ, and the quote wasn't a direct quote. I don't know the exact article but it was "recent" as of June 16th 1995, see the original source; https://www.marxists.org/admin/intro/history/newsgroups/1995-06-16.htm

My original post, by the way, came mostly from my recollections of the MIA's own site history section, which is linked here: https://www.marxists.org/admin/intro/history/index.htm

 No.1603348

>>1603243
>Personally I see two real lines within Maoism, "Gonzaloism" (a term I would strongly urge we not use on Leftypedia as, like "Shining Path", it's largely a pejorative) representing the left tendency of the movement and a more centrist line expressed by the non-ICL parties engaged in people's war and those who have expressed similar statements that the ICL is premature (unity isn't yet achieved). There is a rightist tendency as well, which I would vaguely place people like Cockshott into, but they're extremely marginal within the wider Maoist terrain and hold more influence within the rightist "anti-revisionist" ML parties like the CPGB-ML and PCUSA.
Of what use is the "left", "center", "right" designation among these groups other than for Gonzalo Thought:ists to self-congratulate (saying that they are the "left" line, against more "right-wing" lines)?
I conceptualize [given tendency's] correctness based on the effectiveness of their praxis. The GT tendency is theoretically weak and its peoples struggle has been crushed. The Indian and Philippine experiments are clearly more successful in both practice and theory, they do not contradict but rather cite Mao, they do not lag behind with dogma, but apply materialist dialectics creatively to new obstacles. What warrants them the label "to the right of the [failed] PCP", which was itself mired in numerous petty-bourgeois errors? I think it's clear that the narrative is merely GT rhetoric, resting on very shaky grounding.

 No.1603676

>>1603348
>Of what use is the "left", "center", "right" designation among these groups other than for Gonzalo Thought:ists to self-congratulate
Because that's their position in relation to each other's politics, regardless of correctness. Keep in mind I don't align with the "principally Maoist" line, so my designation of them as the left of Maoism isn't meant to be "congratulatory". To have the most left line isn't a sign of correctness, at times it can be another form of opportunism. In the process of history what was once the correct left line can also become an incorrect line if its internal contradictions aren't resolved (negation of the negation). This is what happened with the PCP. Their initial correctness and strengths in their people's war were eventually liquidated (after the capture of its Central Committee, not just Gonzalo) into an ultra-left commandist line marked by an incapability to face those same internal contradictions.
>I conceptualize [given tendency's] correctness based on the effectiveness of their praxis.
I wouldn't disagree with this, though I'd add the caveat that the most effective praxis can only come from the most correct line (noting that perfection of either is impossible, just "most" relative to others). This leaves room to recognize the historical PCP as a genuine revolutionary force as part of RIM which the center-Maoist parties are in direct sequence with. The CPI (Maoist) likely wouldn't exist at all without the lessons of Peru and Nepal. That the CPI (Maoist) and CPP are to the right of the ICL and current PCP isn't an insult, it's a sign that they're carrying the torch RIM and the PCP lit and are correctly navigating the space between ultra-left commandism and ultra-right opportunism.

 No.1605705

There is no such thing as Gonzaloism. The only reason that term exists is a because the stupid crackers in the Northern Hemisphere don't know how to analyze their local conditions with any originality (this is mostly towards those Austin Red Tards, that've sadly tainted the movement in the US). The Peruvian experience is definitely valid in Latin America and it sucks that true revolutionaries there are being slandered by libs thanks to the fuckin whites


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