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/ukr/ - Russia-Ukraine War General #242

<Enter Dnipropetrovsk Special


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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740

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ALWAYS APPROACH SOURCES CRITICALLY

Live maps and updates
DeepStateMap: https://deepstatemap.live
Events in Ukraine: https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/
SouthFront: https://southfront.press/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/

Watch Together
📺 News/events: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash
📺 Hangout/chill: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/bloodcast

Watch By Yourself
>Video Essays / Historical Background
📺 • Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

📺 • Ukraine's Nazi Problem - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZvWAwU5W4

📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q

📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zuygh9Mzuo

<Current Happenings

📺 • The Grayzone: https://www.youtube.com/@thegrayzone7996
📺 • DDGeopolitics: https://www.youtube.com/@DDGeopolitics
📺 • Defense Politics Asia: https://www.youtube.com/@DefensePoliticsAsia
📺 • The Duran: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeMVChrumySxV9N1w0Au-w
📺 • The News Atlas: https://www.youtube.com/c/thenewatlas
📺 • Military Summary: https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary

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>>2341703
Pretty sure ziggers were happy that Trump became president

>>2346635
And to be honest I did briefly look into it, but I only got as far as the "investigation" where only nato was involved and at that point I couldn't care any more. It's not like it could possibly tell me anything that would matter, least of all to this lib. It's not about the plane, or the actual politics involved, it's just a totem to show that the evil Russians were behind it all alone. It's just stupid slop for stupid ameripiggies that can't handle the fact that they're part of the evil empire.

>>2346635
you understand why libs swung to become the pro-war party by the mid 2010s in an ongoing back and forth over the decades. international conflicts are just mirrors for domestic ones for failing parties. first GOP decline under bush, then democrats under obama.
>>2346638
are you actually arguing MAGA dissent is caused by disinfo lmao

they got led up the primrose path like the others. US proxies (including in reverse ironically), dem or rep voters, same shit

>>2346626
>LDNR militias were initially based heavily on salvaged Ukrainian army equipment
I remember this also being the turning point for the narrative on the ATO in the west even prior to MH17, because news outlets started reporting that the separatists had "Russian-designed" or "Russian-origin" weapons that cheekily imply that they were being armed exclusively by Russia and thus Ukraine are not in fact bombing separatists in civilian areas, but for-all-intents-and-purposes the Russian military in an active warzone.

>>2346638
>Pretty sure ziggers were happy that Trump became president
Wait For Trump wasn't a /leftypol/ phenomenon, thank goodness. I saw it a lot on Twitter and Telegram.
I don't like that the Kremlin indulged it, framing every provocation against Russia as an attempt to derail sweet and innocent peacemaker Trump and his negotiations, and trying to downplay all Trump's anti-Russian statements as bad advisors misleading poor naive Trump.

>>2346669
the whole thing is a gigantic grey area because that ukrainian volunteer army drawing on protesters and their militias created a mirror in russia with former vets, intel officials, and other volunteers with no formal ties to the russian state and who moved way ahead of it. crimea was already arming itself in january 2014 for example, and everyone saw the repression of anti-maidan

there was a very real spontaneous mobilization to fight back, maidan's seizure of power meant an incoming confrontation within the country everyone saw coming

thus the concept of 'hybrid war'. the ukraine crisis had blurred the distinction of state and non-state, but not because it was a russian state strategy. it was because the wider fabric of states was breaking down and popular forces filled the void as much as other states. globalization was breaking down.

we wanted to exploit the gap between people on the ground and the russian state, painting it all as a big russian conspiracy serves to exploit russian awkwardness in how it responded to everything moving ahead of it starting with feb 21 2014 and the west abetting its opposition reneging on the deal and seizing power

in the process we've consistently underestimated, thanks to our obsession with putin, exactly how much we were pissing off everyday russians with a violent, supremacist kind of imperialism fueled by post-soviet decay that russians hate AND which echoes europe's own history

i said we earned a reckoning back in feb 2022 bc we really did

>>2346681
>exactly how much we were pissing off everyday russians with a violent, supremacist kind of imperialism fueled by post-soviet decay that russians hate AND which echoes europe's own history

Exactly, because most people in west are kind of proudly ignorant about Russia and are openly content to take claims about the nation at face value, accept logical conclusions if claims are true, assumptions are that ignorance was returned in kind as though the relentless presentation of Russians as the asiatic hordes unfairly winning at Kursk because of their overwhelming numbers compared to the Germans, Chernobyl proving industrial malpractice is a uniquely Russian affliction, the turrets of Soviet-origin Iraqi tanks launching suggesting Russians ethnically just don't have the intelligence to have foresight while designing things, etc, couldn't penetrate the equally strong bubble of Russian ignorance about the west.

But now people are swearing blind like none of that happened and Russia are just imagining this culture of hostility and hatred now that NATO expansion has run into a brick wall, that Russians only feared it out of a schizo paranoia that there was something hostile about the whole thing. Naturally they don't actually believe that narrative themselves, but they're so fucking certain those ignorant Russians haven't heard of the Discovery channel, that they feel they can make that claim anyway. And it's all to just fool themselves so they can presumably run into another brick wall in another decade or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt2u4dlZBHE

BREAKING
<Belarus' Permanent Representative to the UN said that Minsk and the US are discussing normalization of relations with the full resumption of work of embassies

>>2344421
>Cultural genocide is the same thing as children just today being sniped to death by zionazis that Ruzzia also supports

>>2346986
Ah but that’s not what post says, does it?

>>2346975
So that's what he got for the fascist, I guess it was a good swerve from Luka but I'd still rather the fascist faggot spent the rest of his life in prison

>>2346986
how about we just agree the spread of liberal capitalism shouldn't be based on either culture or racial/ethnic erasure, and imperialism reaching such a point signals it is deep into crisis and becoming extremely reactionary

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>This bad boy will defeat russia
All that has to be done is mass produce it and russia is toast.
https://www.baesystems.com/en/product/cv90
The only reason russia got away with making garbage junk like the bmp's is because russians are simps for their government and can easily be conscripted into useless wars for their tsars' and boyars' palaces. Conscription has been a disaster for the militaries of many countries. Professional armies with professional equipment are the future.
Sorry russians, you cannot compete.

>>2347502
Not gonna happen, the vvest can't even mass produce shells, much less IFV.
Professional armies are only useful to war against armies where the bodycount is low, Ukr/Russia near peer war show it's impossible.
Wunderwaffle from the vvest has failed and will fail.
being smug won't change the results, more smugtards have tried and the war still goes on.

>>2347502
Russia switched to a smaller professional army in the 2000s.

It's been 3 and a half fucking year. When will the Russians actually annex Ukraine

>>2347617
The unelected politicians that comprise the Putin's team (Medinski in particular) are saying that they are ready to wage the war F O R E V E R. You read that right, they want a forever war. So if we extend the conflict to last however many years it will take for Russia to fully capture Ukraine, it may be easily in the tens of years of year-on-year onslaught.

>>2347625
i.e.
>incompetence

>Vladimir Putin speaks at the St Petersburg International Economic Forum

>>2347672
Doesn't actually start until 24:00


>>2347686
>Putin comments on Russian economy at 29:00
Gdp growth at 4%+, mentions a new gdp formula to separate hydrocarbon and non hydrocarbon industry growth. Says that growth is spread across various sectors of the economy and not just driven by mic.
"Almost all key systematically important industries of the Russian economy have been growing."

>key aspects to address 35:26

First: change the nature of employment and consumption patterns, a "transition to an economy of high wages based not on a shortage of a labor force when entrepreneurs have to raise wages in order to compete for workers. Rather these high wages have to be based on the quality of jobs as well as higher labor productivity."
Unemployment rate stabilized at 2.3% over the last four years.
It's also important to integrate up to date and cutting edge technological solutions like platform based employment and digital market places.
Cites dealing with youth unemployment as important for the social and economic development of a country, with Russia's youth unemployment rate at 7% as opposed to France and the UK's 16 and 11%.
<Very cute business girl spotted at 40:17
Calls to decrease employment in support industry (government?) Jobs with incentives in tech based labor efficient jobs via something something digital solutions
Cites high paying jobs as key to increasing citizens qol and decreasing inequality
Decrease in 2 million people earning less than the minimum wage over the previous year.
>42:06
"Poverty level" in Russia was 29% of the population in 2000, 42.3 million people. In 2024 the level is 7.2%, 10.5 million.
Calls for building an economy of high wages based on higher labor productivity to achieve a level of 5%.
Needs to increase labor mobility by training and retraining them, increase industrial robot integration.
New Federal law promoting the creative industry in 70 regions.
>47:28 talking about the tourist industry
Plans to renovate 1000 cultural heritage sites by 2030
Calls for special projects to recover useful elements from decades of accumulated industrial waste
>51:01 second key area, equality of investment climate
Desires to lower costs for investments and new projects, with a goal to increase capital investments in the country by 60% in 2030 over 2020
<I hope you were looking forward to state capitalism because that's what you're getting
<I wish a bomb would fall on this building and kill all these little piggies
The goal is to make Russia among the top 20 business friendly countries by 2030
By 2030 aggregate spending for r&d in Russia between the state and private business should increase to no less that 2% gdp
>57:00
Competition can be useful but in some cases it decreases efficiency and unity
>1:00:00
Needs more collaboration between research institutions, individual entrepreneurs, and the business environment in developing new technologies and inventions
<cute girl spotted again 1:00:57
They want to develope a market of ip with system of loans secured by patents and trademarks
>1:05:00 discussing digitalizing transport and logistical documents to create international transport corridors among brics states
Digital ruble/ currency promotion
>1:07:04 fourth key area of structural change: export and import
Wants to grow exports beyond oil and gas export
Cooperation and elimination of trade barriers with key partners
>1:07:37 plan for strategic cooperation with china
Going to development "action plan" with India "in near future"
Large scale energy projects implemented with Belarus, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, turkiye, Vietnam, and "a number of other countries." Including nuclear and extractive projects.
Working to increase labor intensive imports to focus domestic labor on high tech, complicated goods and services.
>1:10:07 the Russian defense industry and the fifth area of structural modernization of the economy
1. Whenever possible we need to aim for synergies and adjacencies between the defence and civil sectors; manage production of dual use products; eliminate distinctions between military and civil sectors
2. Speed of change. Time between ideation, creation, production, and distribution of products is shrinking and the military industry should adopt these trends.
3. Flexibility. Military unit commanders are playing a greater role in the development of tactics and supplies/more integration between military commanders and the firms developing their products
4. Increasing the use of ai and drones to combat crime and fight on the battlefield.
>1:15:00 the global economy is going through the greatest changes seen in a decade
The global majority are ramping up their potential and changing the power balance of the planet
At the beginning of the century brics countries were 1/5 of the global economy and now account for 40%
The world needs an alternative development model from the neocolonialist model that serves only the elite of the golden billion
This is probably why we're seeing the changes we're seeing now in the political arena. We need to make sure that all these changes translate into better quality of life for the citizens of our own countries.
>The goal per se is not to modernize the outdated mechanisms of the era of globalization. They are outdated. They have discredited themselves. We need to come up with a new model of development free of any kind of political manipulation, taking into account national interests of the countries. And obviously this model should be focused on the needs of our citizens and their families.
Calls for further brics cooperation and touts the brics model of mutual benefit, parity, and recognizing national interests.
Says the era of one country dealing with the world's problems and acting at the expense of others is over.
>1:21:00 ends speech

God that was exhausting. Sorry for mistakes or omissions, but the translators were speaking very quickly about a lot of topics. A lot of it sounded like empty corporate speak so I tried to relay the important stuff. I guess whatever comments he made about Ukraine happen at another section but either someone else can do that part or I'll do it later.

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French police have arrested a 22-year-old man believed to be British amid claims he tried to marry a nine-year-old girl at Disneyland Paris on Saturday.

Park staff were shocked to see the child, along with her family and around 100 guests, turn up for the event and quickly called the police.

Officers arrived on the scene and took the man into custody along with the girl's 41-year-old mother, who is believed to be Ukrainia

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14835385/French-police-arrest-British-man-marry-girl-nine-Disneyland-Paris.html

>>2347996
Adorable. She can make my line go up any day. Expand my productive forces. Develop my creative industries.

>>2347867
excellent job covering this

>>2348672
she reminds me of the girl who said just because in the libtard "would you nuke america" video

>>2348045
giwtwm

>>2344545
More like pseud-ultras
ultra-pseuds, to be even more accurate

>>2347867
>Desires to lower costs for investments and new projects, with a goal to increase capital investments in the country by 60% in 2030 over 2020
<I hope you were looking forward to state capitalism because that's what you're getting
That's neo-liberalism. Where do you think these "capital investments" come from and where these are being spend on in the country

>>2347867
good work

>>2349159
>Where do you think these "capital investments" come from and where these are being spend on in the country
Communist China and axis of resistance. means of defense and production.

>>2347867
>Putin comments on Russian economy
so what? camgirls' earnings?

To think this all started with a badly thought out 48 hour ATO.
It was supposed to be so easy…

>>2344397
I hate states

Oh no zisters, frigging ziggers took and raped another one of us commies to death

>Bentley called himself a communist. He could frequently be heard stating, like a line straight out of a Hollywood movie: "I hate Nazis." That was what drove him to leave the US, in December 2014: The certainty, nurtured by the Facebook pages he followed, that he was going to fight a government − that of Kyiv − that was subservient to fascism and Western imperialism, one that was "murdering" the civilian population of Donbas.


>In 2014, working as a yoga instructor, he became passionate about the Donbas cause, a struggle being remotely directed by Moscow against the Kyiv government. "I'm anti-racist. I'm anti-imperialist," he said in an interview with Rolling Stone magazine. "I grew up supporting people's rights to defend themselves." In Donetsk, he joined a contingent of several dozen foreigners, the vast majority of whom were far-right (WESTERN IMPERIALIST LIE, RUSSIAN HYPERNTIONALISM IS COMMUNISM) and had already rallied to the pro-Russian movement.


>On April 8, 2024, Bentley was with his wife, Lyudmila, in the center of Donetsk when a Ukrainian army bombardment occurred. The American − who had also held Russian citizenship since 2021 − reportedly drove to the scene to see if he could be of any help. It was under these circumstances that he disappeared, his loved ones finding only his hat and his broken phone in the vehicle.


>Surprisingly, Russian media didn't try to blame Ukraine for his death, either as a result of the bombing or by any other means. Local commanders and military bloggers were quick to claim that the man had been arrested and killed by soldiers from a Russian armored division who possibly were drunk and had mistaken him for a spy.


>Some of these sources went so far as to quote an adviser to the head of the "Donetsk People's Republic," Denis Pushilin, who suggested that Bentley had been raped by these soldiers, who would have felt, after realizing their mistake, that it was too late to make amends and return the American.


>According to those close to him, a double investigation has been opened by the military board of inquiry for the crimes of murder and rape. On April 28, these same sources, speaking on Bentley's Telegram channel, said that his car had mysteriously reappeared near the front line, blown up and incinerated, with the American's remains inside, in an apparent attempt to muddy the waters.


>An investigation by the Russian Investigative Committee into the circumstances of his death found that Bentley, 64, was allegedly tortured and killed at the Petrovskaya mine by members of the Fifth Brigade. The Russian Investigative Committee has accused Vitaly Vansyatsky, Vladislav Agaltsev, Vladimir Bazhin and Andrei Iordanov, members of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, of torturing and killing Bentley as a group through negligence, an action reportedly beyond their authority.

>>2349244
What fascist rag did you take this from, be honest. It doesn’t even seem to be written by someone who understands English

>>2349244
Did you just learn about this? Did they assign us a new glowie? You haven’t even been following the war for a full year 😭

>>2349244
>vostok battalion is far right
Kek

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>>2349295
At some point we have to fix western political science to remind people there's a world outside of liberalism. Unfortunately we have a poor historical memory

>>2349295
I keep telling you nerds this archaic, useless left-right dichotomy is not long for this world

>>2349306
>t. ᴉuᴉlossnW

>>2349307
the old world is dying and the new world is struggling to be born

>>2349293
Yeah that part got me too lol
Like even if you think sut veremy (or whatever it was called) had some strange ideas (and it did) it was definitely a left organization. If you read Tejas’ book, most of his fellow volunteers were anarchists and communists
It’s sad to think almost all the ogs are gone now

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personally, I'm an omeganationalist

>>2349314
Essence of time and Kurginyan, yea. They were weird, mixing ideas given the anarchy of failed liberal capitalism and the temporary Putin band aid fix for it. Namely by combining orthodoxy and socialism to provide a successor to the dominant universalist ideologies of the last century, liberalism and socialism, with which to envision a new USSR but not really succeeding. A strange interim ideology very symbolic of the times in early critiques of globalization that have matured a lot since the early 2010s (and I think showed there's still ultimately nothing but liberalism or socialism)
I never looked into it deeply other than it looking like reverse zizek to me. To me it just looked like incoherent left patriotism trying to make sense of fracture and stagnation in the world. I could be wrong

>>2349347
When I get home, I can post the passage from his book where he describes their ideology, but I think you already nailed it honestly.

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