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/ukr/ - Russia-Ukraine War General #242

<Enter Dnipropetrovsk Special


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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740

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ALWAYS APPROACH SOURCES CRITICALLY

Live maps and updates
DeepStateMap: https://deepstatemap.live
Events in Ukraine: https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/
SouthFront: https://southfront.press/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/

Watch Together
📺 News/events: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash
📺 Hangout/chill: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/bloodcast

Watch By Yourself
>Video Essays / Historical Background
📺 • Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

📺 • Ukraine's Nazi Problem - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZvWAwU5W4

📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q

📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zuygh9Mzuo

<Current Happenings

📺 • The Grayzone: https://www.youtube.com/@thegrayzone7996
📺 • DDGeopolitics: https://www.youtube.com/@DDGeopolitics
📺 • Defense Politics Asia: https://www.youtube.com/@DefensePoliticsAsia
📺 • The Duran: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeMVChrumySxV9N1w0Au-w
📺 • The News Atlas: https://www.youtube.com/c/thenewatlas
📺 • Military Summary: https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary

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Thread guidelines:
• Please remember to add a spoiler to NSFW and extreme content such as graphic violence and gore.
• Try your best to not derail discussion too much from the main events and relevant places where the war is taken place, as well as other happenings, groups and public figures related to it.
• Meta discussion of the historical, philosophical and ideological background of the war is fine as long as its done in good faith and comradely.
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IMAGINE WATCHING THE INTERNET GET FLOODED WITH THOUSANDS OF VIDEOS OF RUSSIAN SOLDIERS GETTING KILLED BY UKRAINIAN DRONES AND THEN TRYING TO CLAIM THAT RUSSIA HAS LESS TOTAL CASUALTIES THAN THE RECORDED VIDEOS OF THEIR SOLDIERS GETTING BLOWN TO BITS

RUSSIAN NATIONALISTS ARE RETARDED THEY REALLY THINK PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE THE CASUALTIES ARE 10-1 IN THEIR FAVOR

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>>2326285
and the ukrainian bodies, are they just spawning from thin air?

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250127-a-bad-dream-russia-marches-on-dnipropetrovsk
Meanwhile…
Time to wake up
>having another fit
Westoid fragility
If you watched thousands of gore videos to own da ruzzians you need more than a welfare check, buddy boy

>>2326293
recovered from Kursk you idiot GOD all Russians are retarded at this point I hope China just takes over your shithole because all of you are COMPLETELY INCAPABLE of fighting NATO or even coming up with believable propaganda

>>2326277
I'm seething hard rn, I'm so angry I'm about to bust a nut

>dead ukros from kursk don't count as ukros
lol
also 500/700/900 to 50 exchanges are older than the kursk mopup

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So, I totally expected a response.
I'm not entirely sure how I should be approaching this, as someone who is misguided but still partially "on the right side" or as opposition that is only here to annoy (well, in that case we seem to be winning, as you sound agitated, and more with each post). Anyway, maybe the response is the same in any case.
Get well soon, all there is to it

>>2326288
It's kind of sad to see people fall this hard for propaganda, it's no real secret that Ukraine specifically tries to record as much gore as possible in order to specifically make this point.

But it's simple bias, if one side is considerably more invested in recording gore than the other side is, then you can say Ukraine has more gore videos than Russia does, but that doesn't prove Ukraine is actually inflicting more casualties.

>FLOODED WITH THOUSANDS OF VIDEOS

Perhaps by this point of the war, 3+ years into it, but all caps declarations of Russia using human wave tactics and loosing half of its military in any battle, with the evidence being an unfortunate squad of three or four being caught by a drone in the open, has been a facet of Ukrainian propaganda and nafo trolls since the first month of the conflict.

>>2326353
On Russian Telegram channels, gore is usually edited out. A drone is shown hitting a tank or, very rarely, a guy from the drone's view, but no meat. It's not necessary. To everyone whos not a complete retard, its more than clear whos winning and whos losing by territory switching hands and what ratios corpses and prisoners are exchanged at. I've told as much to your replier before, but he's either fully retarded or a provocateur.

>>2326371
Well the other factor is that Ukraine is a lot more dependent on FPV drones than Russia is, so both sides use a lot of FPV drones but outside of hitting vehicles that then go bang, generally it's one FPV drone to kill one soldier (which sick fella fucks enjoy anyway), but the rather alarming size of graveyards with Ukrainian flags comes from Russia Kinzhal'ing a barracks or dropping glide bombs on a training camp. Larger weapons that, if recorded at all, will be from a distance and thus deniable that the attack killed anyone at all.

Really fucking sad world we've found ourselves in, to even be needing to pour cold water on the hype of this particular form of war as entertainment.

Ukraine makes a point to gorepost as propaganda, russians with the exception of some volunteer units generally just archive that stuff and maybe release some particularly noteworthy videos months later when they get to it
>it's bad propaganda
Maybe, but I'm still not sure what total reddit and 9gag domination has achieved for ukraine at this point

>>2326371
Maybe he's a balt? They have a very specific flavor of retardation. Poles usually show more sentience and finns tweak out more. But i could be wrong, he may as well be some homegrown spazzer from anglo countries.

>>2326435
I suspect primarily the intended audience are the Russian population for demoralisiyiivia and the Ukrainian population for the opposite affect. From the little I’ve seen of western pro-Ukrainian circles online, they’re actively choosing to larp as though they’re also Ukrainians, therefore also the audience of these gore videos and furthermore have the Banderite lust for such videos.

Basically they’ve made themselves the audience of gore in solidarity

>>2326288
Yea you're retarded. Great methodology dumbass

>>2326277
The moment Bakhmut falls, there is nothing till kyiv, Russians will advance like there is no tomorrow. Z

>>2326572
Ukraine is not like Afghanistan it's just plains which means this will be a short trek for the deep battle tank formations of russia, you would know that if you educated yourself with military blogs like me

>>2326435
Even from a propaganda perspective most people are just sick of the war, in the West and increasingly so in Ukraine. At this point all the goreposting does is reinforce the senseless brutality of the whole thing.

>>2326572
Challengers will scatter the ruzzians all the way to Katchamka and Taurus will oneshot the Kerch Bridge. SLAVA EVROPA

>>2326586
>short trek for the deep battle tank formations of russia
get with the times gramps
tanks are hard countered by drones now
no point in building more

the arguments give way when they just boil down to putin shouldve crashed out on day 1

>>2326613
>Even from a propaganda perspective most people are just sick of the war, in the West and increasingly so in Ukraine. At this point all the goreposting does is reinforce the senseless brutality of the whole thing.
i was talking to a young polish security expert who basically said this was over after the summer counteroffensyiv. he sees the slide into asymmetric warfare and mobilization campaigns as obvious evidence this is a war of attrition ukraine isn't winning.
i dont think drone videos alter what these structural trends predict. casualty rates are probably not lopsided in favor of ukraine.

i still think of the 40 year old american TDF volunteer that was at bakhmut. i met him 2 years ago, how fucked up his body was and how he went back only to die. he left behind a wife and kids in the US. he told me straight up he was just sitting in a trench getting bombed.

apparently the US won't be sending more direct US military aid, and ukraine will be only receiving requests from private contractors.

>>2326741
the imperialists oil in the middle east is threatened, the gas-stealing in ukraine will have to wait

>>2323826
amerimutt

>>2326187
>Ziggers still pretending like the fact that Russia can't advance to recover the bodies of their fallen
why would Russians send their fallen >>2325331 to ukraine?
are you mentally challenged?
you know, you should have deleted the post instead. now get laughed at for being a moron.

>>2326750
>why would Russians send their fallen to ukraine?
you should ask that question to all the suicide squads that get blown up which the Ukrainians never bothered to recover the bodies of

>>2326750
>Zigger still pretending like Ukraine not bothering to recover Russian bodies, therefore having less to trade with, somehow means Ukraine is taking 10x more casualties than Russia
lol. lmao, even.

isn't it interesting how it's "muh dead proles" anticampists who always spam gore while "bloodthirsty HYPERnationalist ziggers" generally don't

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Do you think this war will end one day?

>>2326753
>Russians are civilized and treat the bodies of their enemies with respect while the ukrainians are barbaric savages
while that's definitely true, I also think Russia would deny further exchanges if there was suspicion of repeated irregularities
there were also more equal exchanges closer to the beginning of the war, but they ended after the failed counteroffensyiv put an end to the AFU as a force capable of organized operations, that puts a further dent into the theory

>>2326288
Body exchange ratio and also pow exchange ratio suggest that Ukraine is taking higher causalities, Ukrops dont collect the dead most of the time but rather write them off as deserters or otherwise. One of the reasons why they didn't want to collect their own 6000 dead since relatives would receive payments. These are just from the Kursk region btw, russians have collected them after the ukrops left. And nobody argues for a 1/10 ratio in Russias favor in the russian telegram sphere (Rybar or even hardcore ziggers), the Ukrops do on the other hand do (some bullshit like 1/5 atleast) which just doesnt line up with the data. 100 drone videos each week that if we are generous shows in total lets say 120 casualities on the russian side would if generalized and giving some upwards tolerance, still maybe be about a thousand russian casualties a month which is frankly about the amount of casualties you would expect given the current length of the frontline and how many soldiers are always at the front. Also Ukrops for some weird reason assume that 30.000 soldiers signing a contract (monthly, it's a bit less I think and varies of course) with the mod immediately go the front and die for some reason even though rotations are not only very common but also a lot don't go the front in the first place and stay behind doing logistics.

>>2326187
>posting this while russia is sending over 1200 hohol popsicles per 30 dead russians in swaps

>>2326751
>>2326753
why is this allowed on youtube wtf

>>2326754
This guy is just a fascist/glowie
You can tell because he forgot to turn his flag back on when he came back from posting pro-Zio shit in the Iran thread
>>2326288
>>2326751
The real question is why don't the mods do anything about it

>>2326753
>>2326751
You can go to Russians telegram and see hundreds of Ukrops get wacked daily, what's your point here? Do you honestly believe the Ukrop numbers of 43.000 casualities lmao? Then why do they have a manpower shortage why the Russians haven't? Why can't they advance? Why don't they just lower their conscription age? Even Westoid media couldn't cope and said that the numbers were "downplayed" for morale reasons lel

>>2326773
same reason why facebook officially made an exception in its hate speech policy for russians, the largest and most powerful global media conglomerates are a direct propaganda arm of the empire and promote the dehumanization of its enemies
but it's still an inter-imperialist conflict between two completely equivalent sides because uhhh putler paid $1,000 to boost tiktoks promoting some european right-winger lmao

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>>2326781
>This guy is just a fascist/glowie
stfu, and get rekt, radlib. now ga back to reddit and suck some nafo cock and get pikraine sharts.

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>>2326792
nobody cares

if you want to make a race on gore, don't dare me. In Telegram, uncensored from pro-banderite narratives, unlike your beloved western media is, there's enough pigs' gore to overflow leftypol servers.
you'll have dead swine.

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>>2326754
>isn't it interesting how it's "muh dead proles" anticampists who always spam gore while "bloodthirsty HYPERnationalist ziggers" generally don't

>>2326787
>uhhh putler paid $1,000 to boost tiktoks promoting some european right-winger lmao
you do have to admit that is retarded tbh like i get the destabilization aspect but right-wing populists always turn pro-NATO when the time comes, the only right-winger with any value to Putin is Orban I guess, but all he does is delay the EU for like 1 month until they give in and give him something to approve the In Honor of Defenders of Fascism Act or whatever.
Meanwhile, all of Russia's staunch allies and supporters are left-wing. Maybe that should tell Putler something

>>2326797
>that flag
LMAOOOOOOO

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>>2326766
ukraine have the same incentive to collect up Russian KIA. Russia also pay compensations and reparation to each family for each soldier dead. thus it's a burden on the Russia state. but ukraine isn't doing it because they don't have the same numbers to collect. for one, because they are not preparing their soldiers as they should, something even the western media has confessed from time to time, and because Russia has the cutting edge here, despite all the things the west sends. which also sends is shorter numbers.

also, what people seem often fail to understand is that each military has an idiosyncrasy, reflected on the constant use, adaptation, and synergy with the military equipment presented for their use. to make a competent army with the supplied equipment, considering that they are more or less similarly lethal, each personnel requires decades of constant training, and that's a generational change. ukraine went from using Soviet-era equipment to western equipment overnight, and that's an idiosyncratic shock, hard to overcome.

also the population isn't proactively against the Russians either, so there. ukraine is bound to fail.

>>2326620
Something sure pinned them down for 3 years now. Was it tanks or missiles or drones? I don't know but it looks like it's working.

Brig, what do you see for Israel Iran happenings? Does Iran have a chance?

>>2326938
just visited that thread and they are arguing about whether Syrians are white


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