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/ukr/ - Russia-Ukraine War General #242

<Enter Dnipropetrovsk Special


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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740

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ALWAYS APPROACH SOURCES CRITICALLY

Live maps and updates
DeepStateMap: https://deepstatemap.live
Events in Ukraine: https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/
SouthFront: https://southfront.press/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/

Watch Together
📺 News/events: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash
📺 Hangout/chill: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/bloodcast

Watch By Yourself
>Video Essays / Historical Background
📺 • Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

📺 • Ukraine's Nazi Problem - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZvWAwU5W4

📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q

📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zuygh9Mzuo

<Current Happenings

📺 • The Grayzone: https://www.youtube.com/@thegrayzone7996
📺 • DDGeopolitics: https://www.youtube.com/@DDGeopolitics
📺 • Defense Politics Asia: https://www.youtube.com/@DefensePoliticsAsia
📺 • The Duran: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeMVChrumySxV9N1w0Au-w
📺 • The News Atlas: https://www.youtube.com/c/thenewatlas
📺 • Military Summary: https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary

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i haven't paid attention. is trump still giving the kyiv regime money and weapons or are they running on leftover fumes from the biden administration? kyiv collapse soon?

>>2315849
i hope he stops, they should steamroll the ukrainians and get it over with

>>2315849
The weapons really don't matter. it's the US intel that is the problem for Russia and is irreplaceable for Ukraine. There has been no new weapons packages or money for Ukraine since Biden, but Biden in his last weeks and with democrat congress really let it rain on Ukraine just so that they could Trump proof Ukraine. Those allocations are running out sooni-sih.

>>2315849
Trump will protect Ukraine cause he realised Putin played his ass.

>>2315921
It's really the democrats, neocons and Zelensky who played his ass if anyone did. He could have gone cold Turkey on Ukraine on his first day like he promised and his supporters wanted, and let the bitch sink and say it was Biden's failed war. He should have cut intel, cut personell assistance and advising, let the congress money drain into Ukraine. Now however it's also Trump's war. They will keep loss on Ukraine hanging over him and they can use a looming loss in Ukraine to threaten his ego. All of this dicking about negotiations and peace will not salvage anything for US out of Ukraine it will only risk drawing US further in with this theater about negotiations.

>>2315888
Musk is still providing the comms, remember? Or is that part of the "US intel"?

>>2316053
I was talking more about the satellites, mapping and targeting data. Starlink is still important. I guess Trump could shut it down, maybe.

Is this the pro-prole genocide thread?

>>2316071
Entire states depend on its means to communicate. Nevermind militaries.

>>2316125
no, you're looking for this one: >>2005272

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>>2315968
>wow drumpf is so dumb i cant believe he would do this

242 threads, Christ.

>>2316217
Boiling the Frogtin.

>>2316242
>242 threads, Christ.
It's been way more then that. Probably in the 1000s. The threads were originally numbered, then it was turned into a cyclical for a long time, then they started the numbers again, probably from 0.

We count on ending this war this year,' said Ukraine's foreign minister Andrii Sybiha after a meeting in Rome

>>2316624
Define 'end this war'.

The retards are not ready to negotiate, nor can they win militarily, nor are they gonna get significantly more aid, but I wouldn't put it past them to eek this out well on the 2026 if they really go to full "victory or to the last Ukrainian" mode.

Looks like WW3 is expanding into the middle east.

>>2316893
By the way, I have not forgotten about Pakistan, or my prediction. Pakistan has not stopped talking about the Waters treaty, India has not stopped talking massive shit, and Pakistan has upped its defense spending by 20%.

Let's be real. If all this is happening it means the cuck cucked out AGAIN.
This time by providing shit air defense.
Fucking cuck man.

>>2316967
Who's the cuck? Putin?


https://newcoldwar.org/the-russian-art-of-war-how-the-west-led-ukraine-to-defeat/

<We are very happy to bring you this excerpt from Colonel Jacques Baud’s latest book, The Russian Art of War: How the West Led Ukraine to Defeat (L’art de la guerre russe: Comment l’occident conduire l’ukraine a la echec). This is a detailed study of the two-year old conflict in which the West has brutally used the Ukrainians to pursue an old pipedream: the conquest of Russia.


<The book is being translated into English, and we will update this page when it is published. In the meantime, we provide a generous excerpt, along with a detailed Table of Contents, to give you a taste of this very important and much-needed book.

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>>2316893
>Looks like WW3 is expanding into the middle east.
No it isn't.

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This is just pathetic

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>>2317937
>1.2k families formally decline financial compensation from the state.

>>2317969
the rest 4.8k families didn't decline financial compensation

>>2317937
Anybody got an archive link on that article. The DW article is edited and says nothing about declining compensation. I very much also doubt that DW would publish anything like that even if it were true since they are pro-hohol to the bone.

>>2316217
that is the perfect image to explain this conflict and its history. too bad people who cry "zigger zigger zigger" can't read

>>2318188
actually i take that back. it forgets "not one inch eastward"

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>Jun 8, 2025
>“Just as has been the case throughout the Bush, Obama, and Biden administrations, President Trump will continue overseeing the use of extremist groups to advance US foreign policy objectives around the globe, including in the Middle East and specifically against the nation of Iran. President Trump’s lifting of sanctions on Syria and his normalization of the leader of a still US-listed terrorist organization demonstrates the vast disparity between President Trump’s rhetoric and the reality of what his administration is actually presiding over.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHvCttIB0J4

https://journal-neo.su/2025/05/29/continuity-of-agenda-trump-administration-white-washes-bush-obama-biden-backed-al-qaeda-in-syria/

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must be a coincidence

>>2318235
What the fuck is this retarded map? Why is everything upside down? Did Dugin scribble it? God if this is what Russian soldiers have to rely on for wayfinding no wonder they're losing.

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Putin called he wants Alaska back


>>2314762 (me)
>The near consensus from the (professional) Iranian commentariat on social media is that Israel is bluffing in a kind of bad-cop routine and that the American partial evacuation of military bases + "concerned" headlines are a bluff in a kind of good-cop routine. There's a lot of confidence all around that Israel won't attack Iran, that Israel has become terrified by Iran's flag-raising, by Iran's do-nothing responses to probable helicopter assassinations, and by Iran's limp retaliatory strikes last year. As a Cucktinologist, my research entails investigating possible Kremlin origins of this complacency.
As a wise man once said, "The weak get beaten."

>>2318737
Putin is a special case. Iran was more afraid of own population than Israel for a long while, and they kind of prefer to trade with the West than to ensure nation's survival. Russia is same in this regard, but Russia had Soviet history to fall back on, Soviet inheritance in the form of remaining industries allowing efficient military production, and Iran is a petromonarchy that has found itself on the wrong side of American hegemony

<@RT_Com
<Russia SLAMS Israeli strikes on Iran — calls it a VIOLATION of the UN Charter
lmao, they're doing the "that makes no legal sense" meme.

>>2318793
NATO, the offensive alliance famous for strictly adhering to international law. Cucktin ready to welcome the new Shah of Iran back to power.

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>>2318802
New red flag dropped:
<@BRICSinfo
<JUST IN: 🇮🇷 Iran officially raises its Red <Flag of Revenge.
This must be the Kremlin's "strategic partnership" kicking in to deter Israel lol.

>>2318752
>Iran is a petromonarchy
just shut the fuck you fucking moron, you know fucking nothing

>>2318844
Iran can't conscript people without causing a civil war

>>2318825
I'm sure that will own the zios

How does this affect givas?

>>2319197
Ukraine has stopped receiving meaningful foreign weaponry because Ukraine can't show investors the amount of troops that would be useful with that weaponry


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>>2319977
Russia doesn't do what Israel does, THO.

Denmark will require women turning 18 after July 1, 2025, to register for assessment days for potential military conscription, aligning with measures already in place for men, as the country strengthens its defenses amid heightened security concerns in Europe

>>2320476
Is that like they will have to serve or they just have to show up for those events?

>>2318984
You called Iran a petromonarchy

Vietnam admitted as BRICS 'partner country,' Brazil says

>>2320948
VBRICS

>>2320953
19 yuan fortnite card

>>2320476

I'm sure this is giving Russian conscripts boners.

>>2320099
yeah they lose

Russia to become world leader in convenience thanks to digital ruble
https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/russia-to-become-world-leader-in?

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and just like that, i am forgotten.

>>2321685
Whokraine?

>>2321685
Cute to assume that after a year and a half of no US material support, no replenishment of air defenses, $100-200 a barrel oil, and even less manpower, Keeev will control anything east of the Dnepr.
It's going to be a lot of "gradually, then suddenly."

God fucking damn it, i take a break for a couple of days and the world is having a happening. What did i miss?

>>2322001
You missed nothing. You knowing shit wont prevent you from getting fucked

>>2321983
And then the question comes - does Russia trust Ukraine with Dnipro and Chernobyl?

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just found out there's a city in Russia called MAGA Don wtf

Your opinion in this liberal analysis?

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>>2322193
paywall

>>2318368
I feel like I read somewhere that before he died Gorbachev said something about how NATO overstepped with the Ukraine war. Does anyone have any good sources on this?

>>2318825
>>2318793
ruZZia abandoned and betrayed Iran for fake friendship with Erdochad.
First the knife in Syria's back
And now Cuckler leaves his allies out to dry for Zangezur

>>2319977
Just imagine how quickly such a conflict would have ended under the USSR

>>2322235
I also remember that

>>2322235
>>2322243
He can say whatever, doesn't change the fact that this was the world he wanted and the one he made. The most successful champion of the Right in the whole of the twentieth century. The man who outdid Reagan, Hitler, Churchill, and Thatcher. I'm just sorry he never saw a mote of justice.

>On January 1, 1989, Khomeini sent a personal message to the Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev, in which he called on him to abandon the ideology of communism and reconsider the policy of Gorbachev's predecessors, "which consisted of society's renunciation of God and religion." He warned against untangling the tangle of economic problems of socialism and communism by returning to capitalism for this purpose, and also stated that "the Islamic Republic of Iran, as the most powerful stronghold of the Islamic world, can easily fill the vacuum that has formed in the ideological system of your society," also noting that "your difficulties lie in the absence of true faith in God, and this leads and will lead the West into a quagmire of vulgarity, into a dead end. Your main difficulty lies in the futile, long-term struggle against God, the main source of being and all that exists."
He should have listened

>>2321685
>>2321983
42 months in and you still have to resort to the fantasy maps and cope lines of le hecking suddenly while rashka keeps losing left and right lmao

>>2322298
>losing
where?

>>2322303
syria and in the process of losing iran, which is actually a win

What a shit bait
I wonder why you don't hear anything about this conflict on your westoid media. Must be cause it's going so great.
You're absolutely like the Nazis winning all the way to Berlin.

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Meanwhile ukrainians and israelis are fighting on twitter over who gets fucked harder

>>2322322
Nazis comparing who has the smallest dick

>Bayonet charges in 2025

>>2322420
tally ho, lads

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The faster Russia advances, the thinner becomes the territory control…

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>>2321685
Couldnt care less about Israel or Iran.

>>2322571
There is your problem right there

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48 hours without givas

Collapse status? Reminder that the us has even started a second front and Ruskis can't do shit, they are just happy they are being grounded down for half some random field.

>>2322580
6000 refrigerated corpses status?

>>2322581
Meat cube status?

>>2322588
What are the sizes of a meatcube composed of 6000 corpses?

>>2322580
two more great patriotic wars worth of years and they'll reach kiiif

>>2322602
*Decades if we are optimistic

>>2322616
dude, it will collapse gradually and then suddenly, you it's linear? lmao you're so not materialistic deterministic. war gains are exponential and it will start soon, trust the telegram plan, z

>>2322629
We can actually see this in the graphs of daily territorial change compared to, say, 2 years ago

>>2322647
Where are they?

>>2322580
>>2322554
Those western infographics take only ukrainian data: according to Wikipedia Ukrainians are still around Sudja lmao. There a reason why ukranian mappers cope by drawing small lines, less problems for them if they slow 99% of South Donbass as "contested" instead of "controlled". Remember they got threatened to be sent to the frontline some month ago

>>2322764
> according to Wikipedia Ukrainians are still around Sudja
post it))))

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>>2322776
Seems it is only updated where Ukraine do "counteroffensyyiv", which explains why infographics don't show that ukraine not have lost territory so fast since April 2022 (should be faster, Cucktin only needs to do a partial mobilization)

>>2323169
>couldn't post any wiki links
>no maps showing what he claims
if russia wasn't losing strategically on all fronts you wouldn't have to make things up all the time

I'll pay you 20 frozen cadavers to fuck off

>>2323197
No thanks I enjoy shitting on you hypernationalistic morons too much

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>upgrade from nationalistic to
>hyper-
cool beans
NB I won't ask what brought it on what any of it means
Don't wanna know. It's certain to be extra stupid.

>>2323213
This probably made a lot more sense in your schizo head

Hyperrude leftoid

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stop being warm

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lol for what reason is Massie saying this

>>2322252
>muh ussr

>>2323240
why so triggered by the h word? lmao

Indistinguishable from generic /pol/yp
Only west-chauvinist lib-leftoids

>>2323330
ok russian hypernationalist

>These questions could only be fully answered by Italian anarchists after a great deal of humility and contrition — only after abandoning the anarchist point of view, after abandoning the point of view of absolute truth, and after acknowledging that they were “wrong even when they were right.” Only after recognizing that absolute truth is not enough to rouse the masses into action or to instill in the masses a revolutionary spirit; that, rather, a specific “truth” is required. Only after recognizing that, as far as human history is concerned, what is “true” is only what is embodied in action, what swells contemporary consciousness with passion and drive, and what expresses itself in deeply-rooted movements and real conquests on the part of the masses.
>The anarchists, meanwhile, have stood still, and continue to stand still, mesmerized by their conviction that they were in the right and continue to be in the right.
https://redsails.org/discorso-agli-anarchici/

>>2323348
>anarchists survive while commies go die in their imperialist bourgeois wars
wonderful

>>2323367
>lasagna eating armchair was an anarchist

>>2323412
>didn't even bother to read his own quote
we're reaching levels of pseudo intellectualism that shouldn't be possible

>violently missing the point

>>2323188
>no maps showing what he claims
You are an absolute retard. Return watch recycled drones footages from 2022 on /pol/ if you are unable to understand that Ukraine coping about territorial losses affect the infographics made by peoples wanting you die for Israel, NATO and their own stocks.


>>2323426
>intellectual

>>2323436
I only see schizo cope but no current wiki maps of ukraine holding sudzha

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is there some kind of board wide raid by /r/ultraleft or what

>>2323697
With Musk and his cost cutting out of the picture USAID is beginning to ramp up again.


>>2323613
>opposing war means you are hitler

>>2323697
The whole internet is getting raided by Israelis and Americans celebrating a new war

>>2323697
yeah its been going on for a while now

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>>2323750
>Defending fascism
KILL LEFTCOMS
BEHEAD LEFTCOMS
ABORT LEFTCOMS
CURB STOMP LEFTCOMS
etc.

>>2323756
>bourgeosie said its MY turn to be a labour aristocracy

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>>2323770
>labor aristocrat accusing wannabe labor aristocrat of being selfish

>>2323787
>noooooo you are le heckin labour aristocracy

>>2323793
Yes, you are. You are shaking in your boots at your job insecurity and get pissy about China overtaking US in every industrial metric

>>2323812
>US
Rent free

Just because I stumbled upon it and because raiders get really mad over Katyn being called a Nazi crime

In regards to Katyn, 1991 response from former KGB archives. Not only didn't they find any archival evidence of NKVD committing Katyn, but also, they DIDN'T FIND IN THE ARCHIVES THE ORIGINALS OF TOTALLY TRUE NOT FAKE orders on killing Poles. Moreso, it was IMPOSSIBLE for USSR to have shot ~20k Poles in 1940 because in the whole 1940 year USSR has shot 1863 people total

>>2323728
may it balance out the rusidiots celebrating their failed invasion on february 24

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>it’s okay to be on the side of Ukrainian ultranationalists because, uhm, you’re all Russian HYPERnationalists
I do love the internet sometimes, it gives me a giggle

>>2323697
I thought it was just the same annoying faggots, but seeing them in the Iran thread celebrating Israel kinda confirmed that there is something more going on

>>2323697
zionist-leftcom alliance

>>2324249
to be clear, I still 100% believe we have homegrown retards here but I think the glowtards noticed that this is the best position for baiting/derailing so they have run with it

>>2324248
>it's ok to be on the side of russian ultranationalists because uhm le friggin hohol hypernationalists
introspection 0 with you tards

>>2324332
Anti-NATO thread ackshually

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>>2324239
Yeah, both sides is just CIA's attempt to disarm opposition, to make hostile forces at least neutral, and at best to make fools of themselves by making them pretend to be neutral while openly pushing pro-Westoid message

>>2324332
Trying to employ a false equivalency this cheap can only mean you have normie-lib levels of subject matter knowledge, or you're malicious.

>>2324332
Russia isn't genocidal, while Ukraine is. As simple as

Really looking forward to the cope when nato gets kicked out of Ukraine entirely and nafoids are still like "okay Russia controls Ukraine and achieved all its stated goals but they still lost because they didn't win fast enough."

>>2324469
Ah but that’s the point, it’s not an equivalency, because apparently hyper is worse than ultra, so although to support Ukraine is to objectively support their ultranationalism, that’s cancelled out by /ukr/‘s supposed “hyper”nationalism.

But of course, that’s because they’re super-duper-meganationalists for the liberal coalition. So nurrr.

what's with faux commies being trigger by the word hyper

>>2324481
>idealism

>>2324469
>my nationalism is whole their nationalism is cringe
i see the "false equivalence" now

>>2324348
>anti nato
>never touches nato only bombs hohols

Russia must be doing pretty well today since the nafoids are coping hard itt

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>>2324623
It’s a thread, it doesn’t posses offensive military capabilities, only offending nafoid capabilities.

>>2324486
You very well know this isn't happening.

>>2324486
you know things are going well when you have to look forward to distant future fantasy
>>2324663
rusnationalist inane cope is quite offensive to human intelligence, i'll give you that

>>2324332
this is a hyper-imperialist war according to the HCP (Hypernational Communist Party)

>>2324665
>>2324673
Hey don't be sad that your favorite nazis are losing. At least in your imagination it's always summer on the sunny beaches of Crimea 💋

>>2324673
>you’re the nationalists
<also you’re not humans
Hmm, sus.

waiting for this war to end is a lot like cock and ball torture

>>2324681
>ideology
>le sportsball fandom
yep your brains are fried

Thing about torture is, it’s generally not voluntary. Following a conflict that inexplicably pisses you off is.

I think it's funny that Russia still has less territory than it took in the first month of the war and retardo Ziggers try to claim Ukraine is collapsing. If this is collapse then I don't want to imagine what Ukraine winning would look like lol.

>>2324681
Reminder that the US now controls 80% of Ukraine. How does this makes you feel coper?

>>2324707
>>2324712
i'll just cope about a future/fantasy where the front collapses suddenly

>>2324707
Very tired cope, even the Ukrainians have stopped with that one because if they were “retaking” everything Russia left to regroup in the east when negotiations failed, then why are Ukraine failing to take everything else by force?

>>2324717
no idea what this mumbled cope is even supposed to mean

>>2324724
>no u
Yeah I’m getting this is your default response for anything you can’t reply to

>>2324707
but you are a zigger

>>2324728
>>no u
lmao wut? just repeating heckin memes u don't even understand? ur not even coherent

>>2324740
>very tired cope
<no idea what this mumbled cope
Guarantee the next meme you’re going to throw out there is that you are only pretending to be retarded

>>2324744
oh yeah i'm sure bumbled incoherent drivel meant something in head

>>2324704
cock and ball torture, is generally voluntary. (unfortunately)

>>2324769
It looks like english isn't your first language. You know, you could just write things out in your native language. We'll use translators, no need to strain yourself.

>>2324736
You're a pigger

>>2324806
how conceited we are! what losing does to a mofo

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Happy Flag Day

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>>2324883
>>2324740
>>2324707
>>2324712
same small dick energy as the nazoids
no wonder they try to emulate them

>>2324929
>stalingrad-berlin 3 years
>downtown donetsk- donetsk outskirts 3.5 years
>muh dicks

>>2324634
Some must be relieved that Iran pounding Israel is covering the sound of Ukraine losing.


>>2325212
Losing? Just because it's lost half its population, can't keep the lights on, hasn't reversed any of their battlefield losses, their government is in the grips of nazis subordinated to the state department, and their society is on the brink of imploding doesn't mean they're LOSING, okay?

>>2325230
holy shit russia is raping the shit out its own province. how will hato ever recover?

lol at the little nafo fag just camping this thread

>>2324929
Do you have the same for central powers during ww1?

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Ukraine and Russia just completed the third round of repatriating the Ukrainian dead. They have moved about 3k now out of the 6k total sub-zero temperature Ukrainians… In exchange for 27 total Russian dead.

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>>2324916
The optics are bad but this is a perfect example of gestalt.

>>2324332
>you're a Russian nationalist
Thank you

>>2325331
>Ziggers still pretending like the fact that Russia can't advance to recover the bodies of their fallen assault squads since Ukrop defences are too strong means Ukraine is suffering a 10 to 1 casualty disadvantage
FIRE EVERYONE IN THE FSB AND HIRE ME INSTEAD
RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA IS SHIT

>>2326187
you're retarded

>>2326193
>NOO YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE UKRAINE IS LOSING 1000 SOLDIERS FOR EVERY 1 RUSSIAN SOLDIER
lol no thanks. enjoy trying to push these retarded talking points on children because those are the only people you'll fool.

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Why do y'all hate being called ziggers? All of you 4chan retards started spamming it here when "2 weeks" and "Kiev in days" was all the rage the first days. Posting the videos of the tanks with the Z and shit.

>>2326220
yea you're retarded
>>2326243
seething about ziggers betrays western bias given how the pro-war lurch of the left is primarily coming from pro-liberal western leftists absorbed by US-EU crisis, thus their support for Ukraine. the schizo position of pro-ukraine anarchists is a fine example of this.

>>2326220
it's exchange of russian bodies collected by ukraine and ukrainian bodies collected by russians, retard
if anything it shows Russia is advancing so it can collect bodies ukkkraine has been leaving behind by the thousand

>>2326243
Because the truth hurts

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>>2326243
Real answer I don't
Like "what's up fellow ziggas" is perfectly fine
It's just the mark of a retard if they use it seriously. By association it becomes "unpleasant" with time.
It's the repetition that gets me, not offensiveness.
Always the repetition
Like all their shit is not just debunked, it basically debunks itself
Revolutionary defeatism? You are a w*sterner.
Left-lib pro-war, anti-anti-imperialist garbage people
etc. etc.
Could go on indefinitely but that just plays into their hand.

>>2326252
>>2326257
keep seething retards it just makes you look worse
imagine trying to claim russia has a 1000 to 1 kill advantage and yet is still stuck in a stalemate lmao
that just makes the russian military look even worse
hence why the talking point is completely retarded even if it were true (which it isn't)

>>2326277
pathetic attempt at damage control after you exposed yourself as a brainlet who doesn't even know what he's talking about

>>2326279
you haven't proved shit lol stay mad that your 1000-1 kill ratios only exist in your dreams

Dnepopetrovsk status?
Think, why do you hear so little on your westoid media?

>body exchange ratios are heavily skewed in favor of Russia
<this is proof Russia can't advance to collect its own bodies (???)
the absolute state of anti-ziggers

>>2326282
Yes why would Ukraine leave their comfy defenses to go out into no man's land to recover dead Russian soldiers you fucking retard

IMAGINE WATCHING THE INTERNET GET FLOODED WITH THOUSANDS OF VIDEOS OF RUSSIAN SOLDIERS GETTING KILLED BY UKRAINIAN DRONES AND THEN TRYING TO CLAIM THAT RUSSIA HAS LESS TOTAL CASUALTIES THAN THE RECORDED VIDEOS OF THEIR SOLDIERS GETTING BLOWN TO BITS

RUSSIAN NATIONALISTS ARE RETARDED THEY REALLY THINK PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE THE CASUALTIES ARE 10-1 IN THEIR FAVOR

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>>2326285
and the ukrainian bodies, are they just spawning from thin air?

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250127-a-bad-dream-russia-marches-on-dnipropetrovsk
Meanwhile…
Time to wake up
>having another fit
Westoid fragility
If you watched thousands of gore videos to own da ruzzians you need more than a welfare check, buddy boy

>>2326293
recovered from Kursk you idiot GOD all Russians are retarded at this point I hope China just takes over your shithole because all of you are COMPLETELY INCAPABLE of fighting NATO or even coming up with believable propaganda

>>2326277
I'm seething hard rn, I'm so angry I'm about to bust a nut

>dead ukros from kursk don't count as ukros
lol
also 500/700/900 to 50 exchanges are older than the kursk mopup

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So, I totally expected a response.
I'm not entirely sure how I should be approaching this, as someone who is misguided but still partially "on the right side" or as opposition that is only here to annoy (well, in that case we seem to be winning, as you sound agitated, and more with each post). Anyway, maybe the response is the same in any case.
Get well soon, all there is to it

>>2326288
It's kind of sad to see people fall this hard for propaganda, it's no real secret that Ukraine specifically tries to record as much gore as possible in order to specifically make this point.

But it's simple bias, if one side is considerably more invested in recording gore than the other side is, then you can say Ukraine has more gore videos than Russia does, but that doesn't prove Ukraine is actually inflicting more casualties.

>FLOODED WITH THOUSANDS OF VIDEOS

Perhaps by this point of the war, 3+ years into it, but all caps declarations of Russia using human wave tactics and loosing half of its military in any battle, with the evidence being an unfortunate squad of three or four being caught by a drone in the open, has been a facet of Ukrainian propaganda and nafo trolls since the first month of the conflict.

>>2326353
On Russian Telegram channels, gore is usually edited out. A drone is shown hitting a tank or, very rarely, a guy from the drone's view, but no meat. It's not necessary. To everyone whos not a complete retard, its more than clear whos winning and whos losing by territory switching hands and what ratios corpses and prisoners are exchanged at. I've told as much to your replier before, but he's either fully retarded or a provocateur.

>>2326371
Well the other factor is that Ukraine is a lot more dependent on FPV drones than Russia is, so both sides use a lot of FPV drones but outside of hitting vehicles that then go bang, generally it's one FPV drone to kill one soldier (which sick fella fucks enjoy anyway), but the rather alarming size of graveyards with Ukrainian flags comes from Russia Kinzhal'ing a barracks or dropping glide bombs on a training camp. Larger weapons that, if recorded at all, will be from a distance and thus deniable that the attack killed anyone at all.

Really fucking sad world we've found ourselves in, to even be needing to pour cold water on the hype of this particular form of war as entertainment.

Ukraine makes a point to gorepost as propaganda, russians with the exception of some volunteer units generally just archive that stuff and maybe release some particularly noteworthy videos months later when they get to it
>it's bad propaganda
Maybe, but I'm still not sure what total reddit and 9gag domination has achieved for ukraine at this point

>>2326371
Maybe he's a balt? They have a very specific flavor of retardation. Poles usually show more sentience and finns tweak out more. But i could be wrong, he may as well be some homegrown spazzer from anglo countries.

>>2326435
I suspect primarily the intended audience are the Russian population for demoralisiyiivia and the Ukrainian population for the opposite affect. From the little I’ve seen of western pro-Ukrainian circles online, they’re actively choosing to larp as though they’re also Ukrainians, therefore also the audience of these gore videos and furthermore have the Banderite lust for such videos.

Basically they’ve made themselves the audience of gore in solidarity

>>2326288
Yea you're retarded. Great methodology dumbass

>>2326277
The moment Bakhmut falls, there is nothing till kyiv, Russians will advance like there is no tomorrow. Z

>>2326572
Ukraine is not like Afghanistan it's just plains which means this will be a short trek for the deep battle tank formations of russia, you would know that if you educated yourself with military blogs like me

>>2326435
Even from a propaganda perspective most people are just sick of the war, in the West and increasingly so in Ukraine. At this point all the goreposting does is reinforce the senseless brutality of the whole thing.

>>2326572
Challengers will scatter the ruzzians all the way to Katchamka and Taurus will oneshot the Kerch Bridge. SLAVA EVROPA

>>2326586
>short trek for the deep battle tank formations of russia
get with the times gramps
tanks are hard countered by drones now
no point in building more

the arguments give way when they just boil down to putin shouldve crashed out on day 1

>>2326613
>Even from a propaganda perspective most people are just sick of the war, in the West and increasingly so in Ukraine. At this point all the goreposting does is reinforce the senseless brutality of the whole thing.
i was talking to a young polish security expert who basically said this was over after the summer counteroffensyiv. he sees the slide into asymmetric warfare and mobilization campaigns as obvious evidence this is a war of attrition ukraine isn't winning.
i dont think drone videos alter what these structural trends predict. casualty rates are probably not lopsided in favor of ukraine.

i still think of the 40 year old american TDF volunteer that was at bakhmut. i met him 2 years ago, how fucked up his body was and how he went back only to die. he left behind a wife and kids in the US. he told me straight up he was just sitting in a trench getting bombed.

apparently the US won't be sending more direct US military aid, and ukraine will be only receiving requests from private contractors.

>>2326741
the imperialists oil in the middle east is threatened, the gas-stealing in ukraine will have to wait

>>2323826
amerimutt

>>2326187
>Ziggers still pretending like the fact that Russia can't advance to recover the bodies of their fallen
why would Russians send their fallen >>2325331 to ukraine?
are you mentally challenged?
you know, you should have deleted the post instead. now get laughed at for being a moron.

>>2326750
>why would Russians send their fallen to ukraine?
you should ask that question to all the suicide squads that get blown up which the Ukrainians never bothered to recover the bodies of

>>2326750
>Zigger still pretending like Ukraine not bothering to recover Russian bodies, therefore having less to trade with, somehow means Ukraine is taking 10x more casualties than Russia
lol. lmao, even.

isn't it interesting how it's "muh dead proles" anticampists who always spam gore while "bloodthirsty HYPERnationalist ziggers" generally don't

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Do you think this war will end one day?

>>2326753
>Russians are civilized and treat the bodies of their enemies with respect while the ukrainians are barbaric savages
while that's definitely true, I also think Russia would deny further exchanges if there was suspicion of repeated irregularities
there were also more equal exchanges closer to the beginning of the war, but they ended after the failed counteroffensyiv put an end to the AFU as a force capable of organized operations, that puts a further dent into the theory

>>2326288
Body exchange ratio and also pow exchange ratio suggest that Ukraine is taking higher causalities, Ukrops dont collect the dead most of the time but rather write them off as deserters or otherwise. One of the reasons why they didn't want to collect their own 6000 dead since relatives would receive payments. These are just from the Kursk region btw, russians have collected them after the ukrops left. And nobody argues for a 1/10 ratio in Russias favor in the russian telegram sphere (Rybar or even hardcore ziggers), the Ukrops do on the other hand do (some bullshit like 1/5 atleast) which just doesnt line up with the data. 100 drone videos each week that if we are generous shows in total lets say 120 casualities on the russian side would if generalized and giving some upwards tolerance, still maybe be about a thousand russian casualties a month which is frankly about the amount of casualties you would expect given the current length of the frontline and how many soldiers are always at the front. Also Ukrops for some weird reason assume that 30.000 soldiers signing a contract (monthly, it's a bit less I think and varies of course) with the mod immediately go the front and die for some reason even though rotations are not only very common but also a lot don't go the front in the first place and stay behind doing logistics.

>>2326187
>posting this while russia is sending over 1200 hohol popsicles per 30 dead russians in swaps

>>2326751
>>2326753
why is this allowed on youtube wtf

>>2326754
This guy is just a fascist/glowie
You can tell because he forgot to turn his flag back on when he came back from posting pro-Zio shit in the Iran thread
>>2326288
>>2326751
The real question is why don't the mods do anything about it

>>2326753
>>2326751
You can go to Russians telegram and see hundreds of Ukrops get wacked daily, what's your point here? Do you honestly believe the Ukrop numbers of 43.000 casualities lmao? Then why do they have a manpower shortage why the Russians haven't? Why can't they advance? Why don't they just lower their conscription age? Even Westoid media couldn't cope and said that the numbers were "downplayed" for morale reasons lel

>>2326773
same reason why facebook officially made an exception in its hate speech policy for russians, the largest and most powerful global media conglomerates are a direct propaganda arm of the empire and promote the dehumanization of its enemies
but it's still an inter-imperialist conflict between two completely equivalent sides because uhhh putler paid $1,000 to boost tiktoks promoting some european right-winger lmao

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>>2326781
>This guy is just a fascist/glowie
stfu, and get rekt, radlib. now ga back to reddit and suck some nafo cock and get pikraine sharts.

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>>2326792
nobody cares

if you want to make a race on gore, don't dare me. In Telegram, uncensored from pro-banderite narratives, unlike your beloved western media is, there's enough pigs' gore to overflow leftypol servers.
you'll have dead swine.

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>>2326754
>isn't it interesting how it's "muh dead proles" anticampists who always spam gore while "bloodthirsty HYPERnationalist ziggers" generally don't

>>2326787
>uhhh putler paid $1,000 to boost tiktoks promoting some european right-winger lmao
you do have to admit that is retarded tbh like i get the destabilization aspect but right-wing populists always turn pro-NATO when the time comes, the only right-winger with any value to Putin is Orban I guess, but all he does is delay the EU for like 1 month until they give in and give him something to approve the In Honor of Defenders of Fascism Act or whatever.
Meanwhile, all of Russia's staunch allies and supporters are left-wing. Maybe that should tell Putler something

>>2326797
>that flag
LMAOOOOOOO

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>>2326766
ukraine have the same incentive to collect up Russian KIA. Russia also pay compensations and reparation to each family for each soldier dead. thus it's a burden on the Russia state. but ukraine isn't doing it because they don't have the same numbers to collect. for one, because they are not preparing their soldiers as they should, something even the western media has confessed from time to time, and because Russia has the cutting edge here, despite all the things the west sends. which also sends is shorter numbers.

also, what people seem often fail to understand is that each military has an idiosyncrasy, reflected on the constant use, adaptation, and synergy with the military equipment presented for their use. to make a competent army with the supplied equipment, considering that they are more or less similarly lethal, each personnel requires decades of constant training, and that's a generational change. ukraine went from using Soviet-era equipment to western equipment overnight, and that's an idiosyncratic shock, hard to overcome.

also the population isn't proactively against the Russians either, so there. ukraine is bound to fail.

>>2326620
Something sure pinned them down for 3 years now. Was it tanks or missiles or drones? I don't know but it looks like it's working.

Brig, what do you see for Israel Iran happenings? Does Iran have a chance?

>>2326938
just visited that thread and they are arguing about whether Syrians are white

>>2326799
the rw populists were never interested in multipolarity and the rise of the rest of the world. they just hate globalization, which broke the marriage of libs and the right that won the cold war, and want to withdraw. they saw ideological value in israel's shift to the right in recent decades more than anyone else. it represented the bastion of western nationalism. russia exploited the divorce after the west supported nationalism in the fSU and russia gave up on cooperating with libs, which was far more extensive than anything with afd et al and was a form of cuckery long overdue for retirement. putin kept it going far too long after 2008, but this ends up being more evidence that he's hardly a highly ideological revanchist-imperialist and that this isn't what caused 2014/2022.

some stupid western-centric people (in my experience) passing themselves as anti-state/anti-nationalist leftists saw value in ruling class infighting and liberals going woke or something, and necessarily turned sharply against nationalism in the (semi-)periphery. this was part of mapping western divisions onto the rest of the world. this was as poorly timed for multipolarity as was libs pretending to defend a rising multicultural democracy built on the decaying corpse of neoliberalism that alienated the petit bourgeoisie

i think putin is well aware his strongest allies are all found in other cultures similarly demeaned by the west as historically uncivilized and inferior, and that russia is simply too eurasian to mirror the effect of periphery euros in 'becoming white' or 'becoming european'. putin is pretty explicit that multipolarity signals the end of neocolonialism

>>2326938
>Brig, what do you see for Israel Iran happenings? Does Iran have a chance?
i am far less experienced in mideast matters where ive just been a long term casual observer. my instincts tell me this goes nowhere without US intervention and that this is the point. if rising lion stalls short of that i dont understand how exactly this leads to an israeli victory. im guessing there will be no regime change in iran and iran will be able to continue the long range strike exchanges for longer than israel. also, im going to guess it'll just reconstruct military leadership.
thinking about it, i dont actually know where any of israel's decapitation strikes have worked so far. they've just been segues towards the wider war it actually needs to defeat its foes
my advice is consult the alt media sphere. follow those interviewing mearsheimer, chas freeman, etc. as they're all well connected senior figures who can relate what more informed people think. it's not necessarily what these people believe but the wider circles they remain a part of after decades of networking

>>2327059
Do not consult Alt Media for this one a lot of these guys were part of the Dubya neocon train with the exception of Mearsheimef

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>>2315845
Guys; how many deaths? (both sides no bullshit, with extra care from genuine sources)

>>2326371
One of my earliest internet memories is seeing chechen_soldier.mov where chechen rebels behead captured Russian soldiers with a knife. Even recently when talking with the brave Ukrainian drone pilots, they talk exultantly about not just killing the enemy but taking particular pleasure in bombing the helpless and the wounded, and sharing videos of their best glory kills. There's some kind of pathology here where Russian haters are obsessed with reveling in these displays of wanton violence.

>>2327489
Real answer no bullshit: no one knows and probably won't know until decades down the line
Internet autists working with obituaries and such say mostly equal, 120k something for Russia and 140k something for Ukraine
But those are not 100% reliable obviously and even if they were they still represent only the rock bottom minimum of casualties since we can't know what % on each side even gets obituaries or official MIA requests that get recorded and posted online etc…
However there's a lot of circumstantial evidence for Ukrainian losses being significantly more severe, such as cemetery footage, forced conscription, body exchange ratios, increasingly desperate recruitment measures etc with no equivalents on the Russian side
Probably about from half a million to million total, but again just spitballing

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>>2327568
To me it's incredible to think that Russian casualties could be higher than Ukraine's considering Russia has enjoyed significant advantages in virtually every category with the exception of drones since the beginning of the war. Every time they've done the "Russia is advancing, but at what cost?" schtick, they've ascribed these massive casualties to "meat waves," which are then usually walked back to the infiltration tactics that the Ukrainians also end up admitting are highly effective.

So yeah, I can believe that Russian casualties are "high" relative to other modern conflicts, but relative to the Ukrainians'? I really doubt it.

>>2327661
>>2327568
It doesn't matter anyway. Ukraine's casualty rate will be extremely well known when this is all over and the SVO becomes the next Holodomor for a new generation of emigres fleeing defeat, in which case extravagant numbers suddenly become conducive to a narrative of victimhood and genocide again.
In fact we'll probably be here a decade from now seeing people arguing that Ukrainian ultra-nationalists are over-exaggerating their numbers.

>>2327661
The "meat assaults" are usually just a squad or so of mobile light infantry rolling up to positions that have been pounded by drones/artillery to mop them up. While it does kind of suck to be them, ukraine and western MSM use semantic games and throwbacks to anti-Soviet propaganda to pretend it's actually vidrel even though there's zero evidence of anything even close.

>>2327765
>Ukraine's casualty rate will be extremely well known when this is all over and the SVO becomes the next Holodomor for a new generation of emigres fleeing defeat, in which case extravagant numbers suddenly become conducive to a narrative of victimhood and genocide again.

Well, at least we have something to look forward to.

>>2327781
>ukraine and western MSM use semantic games and throwbacks to anti-Soviet propaganda to pretend it's actually vidrel even though there's zero evidence of anything even close.

Yeah, and that's what bothers me about it. They switch between "meat assaults" and "meat waves" and equivocate between the two in order to make it sound like Ukrainians are just mowing down scores of men at a time before being buried in Rushoid bodies. It's just so disingenuous.

/isg/ukr/ bros, Putin is chopped liver right now, trying to get by on the old hits. He needs to drop a fresh spectacle.

>>2328968
Haven't you seen how Russians fight in WW2 or in general? They win through attrition and attrition only.


>>2328983
Oh SO SOOOOWWWYYYY that Russia doesn't fight enemies who raise the white flag easily. Oh wait, Romania did, and Turkey also. Hell, USSR has forced Japan to surrender almost immediately

>>2327253
Not sure who you're referring to. The two I mentioned are reliable.

>some people are still being triggered by the h word

>>2315845
I want to apologise before Putin, when this war started I was considering him a deep undercover CIA asset who deliberatedly took RU armies into suicidal attacks.

Now I see that if anyone was a CIA-serving traitor, it was Prigozhin. Putin is as geniunely patriotic as it is possible for a periphery capitalist politican (which is still not much btw).

>>2330076
Putin is still a cuck, I'm afraid.

>>2330078
Yeah, as I said, even the best capitalist politician can do is still not enough.

I want to apologize before Prigozhin; when his March of Justice started I considered him to be a deep undercover CIA asset who deliberately made Wagner initiate a civil war.

Now I see that if anyone was a CIA-serving traitor, it was Putin. Prigozhin was as genuinely patriotic as it is possible for a periphery capitalist politician (which is still not much btw).

>>2330048
More like still laughing at your belief that hyper negates ultra

when is putler going to rename leningrad?

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In accordance with the agreements reached on June 2 in Istanbul, today the Russian side handed over 1,248 bodies of dead servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to Ukraine, returning the bodies of 51 dead Russian servicemen.

Thus, Russia fulfilled the agreements by implementing a large-scale humanitarian action to transfer 60 bodies of dead servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the Ukrainian side.

The Ukrainian side has transferred the bodies of 78 dead Russian servicemen.

At this stage, we are ready to transfer another 2,239 bodies of dead servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the Ukrainian side.

>>2330229
Will he rename it to Cucktingrad or what

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>>2330249
Explain this to me and why these countries are exchanging bodies if they're in a war. To get soldiers back or something?

>>2330263
Why would you keep frozen bodies in your warehouses? It's a waste.

>>2330263
It's not a war, it's a special military operation

>>2330266
so is exchanging them

>>2330473
Yeah right, let's just eat them

>The Russian Foreign Ministry has said that the next round of bilateral consultations between Russia and the United States, aimed at addressing diplomatic "irritants" and normalizing the work of both countries' missions, has been cancelled at the request of the U.S.

Le interimperialist conflict is le interimperialist

Man, when are ukrainian gonna do defeatism

>>2328983
>They win through attrition and attrition only.
I'm not impressed. I propose swapping Zelensky and Putin so we can see better spectacles from Russia and probably even a more thorough stomping of Ukraine.

>>2330598
Good. Can always count on the US.

>muh Cucktin posting
Bitch, Russia is winning by all measures.

Get a grip on reality, lmao!

>>2330473
>so is exchanging them
There might be a way for Russia to use them for organ donations if collected fast enough. Russian dudes who drink a gallon of vodka a day can get a new liver.

>>2330214
>it's real in my mind

Trump was bitching about how Trudeau and Obama threw Russia out of the G8 and that's the reason the Ukraine war started.

Theater to keep the naive Drumpf beaus in play at the Kremlin.

>>2331067
Except time


>>2333254
I don't think Ukraine is getting abandoned. Judging by how Trump acted in regards to Israel, it's just a shift of focus, and Trump will come back once he lied enough to make Russia complacent

Big hits on Kiev this morning apparently.

>Kim Jong-un has decided to send 1,000 sappers and 5,000 military construction workers to restore the Kursk region, Shoigu said.
what a nice guy

>>2333602
>khokhol fears best koreans

>>2333602
>Russia so weak they have to rely on other countries to repair their infrastructure
Cucktinism confirmed to be absolutely disastrous for the russian people.

The DPRK always wants Russia to open flights for the first time in 30 years.

>>2333602
Supreme Leader is so kind 😢

Emoposters? Kiev?

>>2333633
North Korean gunboat diplomacy! They are imperializing and colonizing Russia! Confirmed not socialist!!!

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From the latest round of attempts to intercept Russian missiles over Kiev. F16's missile's direct hit into civilian apartment

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Andriy Yermak posted this vid of Kiev on his personal telegram lol

>EU COMMISSION PROPOSES BAN ON IMPORTS OF RUSSIAN GAS AND LNG FROM JAN 1 2026, UNDER CONTRACTS SIGNED IN REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR
>2026
that'll show 'em

>>2333864
It gives time for eastern europeans like slovakians and romanians to rearrange energy infrastructure still connected to Eastern Bloc grid.


>>2333837
Wow hecking based to fly kamikaze drone to an apartment building. I bet it was full of pigs dressed as nazis.

>>2333875
Probably

>>2331613
>that's the reason the Ukraine war started.
that was like straw #938453945783495, and not even the last straw

>>2326795
Give it to /chug/. They need to fight Lance Kovalenko (goreleaf) so any help would be nice.

>>2333647
I don't even think tonight's strikes were anything out of the ordinary. Z just urgently needed to distract the Int'l Community from pissrael, so he staged some photoshoots and published more explosion footage than usual

>According to Reuters, the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump effectively shut down an interagency group in recent weeks that had been tasked with developing a strategy to increase pressure on Russia. The reason, reportedly, was the president's growing doubts about the advisability of pursuing a confrontational approach toward Moscow.

>The working group included representatives from the State Department, the Pentagon, the Treasury, and intelligence agencies, and was coordinated by senior National Security Council official Andrew Peek, who was removed from his position in May. It remains unclear who gave the order to dismantle the initiative

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/trump-administration-disbands-group-focused-pressuring-russia-sources-say-2025-06-17/

>>2333932
Ah even so, the recordings of explosions in Kiev ought to be slaking the thirst of emoposters for such footage, since “didn’t see on Telegram” = “didn’t happen” apparently.

>>2333837
After 4 years, finally, Ukraine has acquired a footage of Heran hitting a civilian building

>>2333875
Now do Israel

Le interimperialist conflilct, simple as


Le ebil empire vs le wholesome non-empire, simple as

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OK dugin lets get you to bed

>>2334425
Duginists and MAGA communists on suicide watch

>>2334425
dugin should've read marx, then he wouldn't be surprised lol

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>>2334425
even david icke is smarter than this moron keep sucking trumps dick

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guys…? don't tell me you forgot about me guys…

>>2333932
>I don't even think tonight's strikes were anything out of the ordinary.
This. Looked like the same kind of target, not one bringing us closer to our goal of having Zelensky delegged and having to hop around on those foot-long makeshift metal legs.

>>2334425
Everything can be explained once one realizes that Trump has delegated his posting on social media to Miller or some other moron.

Praxis is replying to NAFOids with shaming comments about being selfish while Israel is being attacked. The Banderite bigotry won't take long to out itself that way.

<@clashreport
<Iran's Ambassador to Russia:
<The Iranian people will never forget who stood with us during these times—and who chose to do nothing.
heh. does the good ambassador not understand that russia is stretched thin winning too softly and slowly in russian villages in eastern ukraine?

>>2334708
what's the sauce?

>>2334425
Dugin has always been a retard and the Ukrainians assassinating his daughter to elevate him to God like status was a 500lQ chess move.

>>2334708
>winning

>>2333870
this shit is so interesting

could stare at it a whole day

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>>2335177
>Gets eaten by an FPV Owl

>>2333870
Wtf is that?

<The Zaporozhye administration published a video of the aftermath of the Russian strike on an industrial facility
They're allowed to publish videos now to try to get back the attention and gibs that shifted to Israel. Not a good time to keep claiming 152% interception rates.

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>WASHINGTON, June 17 (Reuters) - A senior Trump administration official is planning to travel to Belarus in the coming days to meet the country's president, according to four sources briefed on the matter, as ceasefire talks between Ukraine and Russia remain deadlocked.

>The precise agenda of the meeting is unclear, though Kellogg in private has portrayed the trip as a step that could help jump-start peace talks aimed at ending Russia's war against Ukraine, said two of the sources, who requested anonymity as the trip has not been made public.

>>2337263
Gonna do their typical, we will drop sanctions if you help bring Russia to negotiations 🥺
Retards don’t realize Luka is much more adept at dealing with imperialists than Cucktin

>>2337264
There’s nothing the West can offer Belarus. Luka will never privatize and that’s a dealbreaker right from the start for the West

>>2334425
man, the dugler really bought into trump's peacemaker shtick. at some point you gotta wake up

>>2337308
he's right thoughever
Luka will never allow the West to rape Belarus so even though he doesn't really like Cucktin in the end he'll side with Russia since he knows a Western victory over Russia will just place insurmountable pressure on Belarus

>>2337308
Literally no argument lol

>>2334425
wrong about sino-russian conflict, wrong about trump. sucks to suck

Use this picture for the next OP

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>>2338258
This one's better

>>2337333
At this point, I don't distinguish between buying into the peacemaker shtick and indulging the peacemaker shtick. Both are idiotic.

>>2337308
>You ideologues always crack me up
I doubt he'll flip, but a real basedismo wouldn't meet Trump's goons at all.

Updates: Russia has fired missiles to take out the AD in Kiev so that Russia can fire missiles to take out the AD in Kiev.

Stay tuned.

Pretty wide ranging article, covering Spider's Web, changes in the front, and the likelihood of victory for the parties concerned:

https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-ukrainian-war-the-flaming-olive

>As the war moves on into its fourth year, Ukraine and her western backers have cycled through several different theories of victory which were quietly discarded after coming apart at the seams. In the first year of the war, the theory of Ukrainian victory centered on created an unacceptable cost-benefit calculus for Russia. If Ukraine and the west showed unexpected resolve, keeping the AFU fighting fiercely in the field, it was hoped that Russia would back down from fighting a long war, particularly as sanctions gnawed away at the Russian economy. Instead, Russia began mobilizing for a longer fight, and the Russian economy has thus far weathered the sanctions intact.


>This theory of victory was then replaced with a model predicated purely on military operations, which supposed that a decisive victory could be won in the south by knifing through Russian defenses in the land bridge. This theory came apart in a much more visible fashion, with western armor burning on the steppe after a botched attempt to breach the Surovikin line. A second attempt to restart decisive operations met a similar end in Kursk.


>In the last year or so, the theory of Ukrainian victory pivoted once again, particularly under the auspices of the new Trump administration, in favor of words like “attrition” and “stalemate” as a mechanism to gain a negotiated settlement. If the front in Ukraine can be locked into something approximating a stalemate - that is, if the cost of further advances can be made prohibitively high for Russia - the conditions will be set for a negotiated peace.


>In contrast, Russia has had an essentially consistent theory of victory since late 2022, when it began mobilization. That theory is very simple: by establishing a basis for sustainable military operations against Ukraine, consistent pressure and ground advances can be maintained until either Ukrainian resistance collapses or Russia controls the Donbas. To this point, Ukraine has not demonstrated capabilities - either to go on the offensive or to halt the Russian advance in the Donbas - that change this basic calculus.


>Commentators in the west rarely try to view the conflict from Russia’s perspective, but if they could they would quickly see why Russian confidence remains high. As Russia sees it, they have absorbed and defeated Ukraine’s two best punches on the ground (the 2023 counteroffensive and the Kursk operation), and they have weathered a long and steady infusion of western combat power without the trajectory of either the ground campaign or the strike war fundamentally shifting. Meanwhile, Russia has essentially scratched off the entire southern Donbas, pushing the front across the border into Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, and they are poised to wrap up the central sector of front as the advance around Pokrovsk and Kostyantynivka blooms.


>We’re left, then, with a jarring disconnect. On the one hand, the Trump Administration approached Ukraine as if their election fundamentally changed everything and instantly raised the probability of a negotiated peace. Russia, however, rather rightly feels that nothing has changed at all. They have absorbed everything the west has thrown into the conflict, and they continue to both advance on the ground and relentlessly strike Ukraine on a material basis that they clearly view as sustainable, without unduly burdening civilian life in Russia.

>>2338634
Witte Sergei is an okay conserva-Zigga on Xitter, but for all his erudition in military history, he still doesn't realize the power of the 21st-century spectacle.
For instance, the Kursk adventure is a completely isolated cryptozoological creature for him, an abortive deadend of nature, even though its tentacles reach out and touch what we're seeing in Iran today.
In the 21st-century, a state's deterrence is inextricably connected with its mastery of the spectacle and the counter-spectacle.

I'll keep it short today because of the excitement happening elsewhere while the Kremlins pick lint from their navels, but what Russia needs to do is put up posters around Moscow announcing a big strike on Ukraine on June 25. Set up a website with a countdown timer. Then fire an Oreshnik at the Rada, but have some hidden stereo amplifiers in Kiev so that a thrash metal track can blare in the minutes before.

>>2338684
They should have destroyed the Rada on day fucking one. Cucktin would rather 100k Russian soldiers die rather than harm a single high ranking Ukrainian politician.

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heh

>>2339666
>That nose
Based Jew fleeing from NATO fascism hope he finds a safe haven.

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not beating the allegations

>>2339702
WHAT ALLEGATIONS?

WHY DO YOU RUSSIANS ALWAYS POST RANDOM SCREENSHOTS OF TELEGRAM ACCOUNTS EXPECTING EVERYONE TO KNOW THE YEARS LONG HISTORY BEHIND SAID ACCOUNTS AND ALL DRAMA ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE ACCOUNTS?

EXPLAIN IT TO US WESTERN RETARDS.

>>2339711
It's Rusich advertising israeli telegram channels. The lore isn't that deep on this one

>>2339711
Look at the channel name bro it's literally Rusich the Russian neonazi auxilliaries
They literally tell people to follow some Israeli channel and although this might be epic chantard trolling there are a lot of white supremacists and football hooligans in Israel of Russian Jewish descent, these are the IDF guys you see with black sunwheel tats in their forearms

>>2339702
Are these faggots still alive? Do they just not fight in actual battles ever? Say what you want about Pierogi but that uygha was flying jets and visiting Bakhmut all the time

>>2339702
Also how is this not literal treason. The Israelis are blatantly on Ukraine’s side

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Why am I not in the news daily anymore?

>>2339878
They're alive and by alive I mean the creator is living in the West LARPing as Russian like so many of these other telegram channels.

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>>2339911
Poor guys. Knowing how shit Cucktin's air defences are at protecting anything at all, their factory will probably end up getting bombed by the Ukrainians in a few months.

>>2339918
There’s a new drone factory in Belarus. I wonder if it’s that one

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Ukraine has made the old scary story about USSR - of government trucks with "bread" written on the side - real

Black ops 2 happened Today. It got a lot of things right (mostly drones and shit)
Thought I should mention it since I plan to watch back to the future in october 2025 for the 40th anniversary.
Off topic but I don't give a shit. This whole world is off topic.

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>>2340095
zelensky broke the might of the Ukrainian oligarchy
Ukraine is now AES
We must support our fellow nationalist socialists against the imperialism of Ruzzia

Lol Ted Cruz conceded the Ukraine war is a total disaster from the US point of view

>>2340095
Uncritical and unconditional support to the anti imperialist campist struggle of Ukraine against the anti communist imperialist might of Ruzzia

>>2340095
they were voting in tandem with the US irt to israel when Biden was in charge lmao

>>2339918
>Poor guys
drones have been a game changer for impoverished armies and militias, probably the biggest war innovation to come out of the ukraine conflict

Daily reminder that Ziggers if they would lived in the 30s would defend Nazism because is "fighting against british imperialism"

>>2340284
Daily reminder that you are on the losing side of history

>>2328983
>He doesnt know

>>2340289
So Zigger, you would support nazism in the 30s because it was fighting "british imperialism" right?

>>2340306
What's it like being on the wrong side of history CONSTANTLY

>>2340309
You use the same logic to defend a imperialist war, but instead of the USA is a russian imperialism, keep doing mental gymnastic

>>2340314
You sound bitter and passive-agressive

>>2340194
Where?

>>2340284
No need to pose a hypothetical. Bordiga, everyone's favorite Zigger, supported Hitler and ᴉuᴉlossnW.

>>2340306
There were quite a few GEACPSiggers in the '30s, and they made quite similar arguments to those that Ziggers today use tbh.
Particularly the way they say that Ukraine is being liberated and also that hohols are savages who deserve to be bombed, that the previously-recognized government is actually no longer legitimate because of some bs reason, that the west backs them therefore we aren't taking any sovereignty away, that this is a grand-historic shift of awakening east-asia/eurasia so the destruction of a minor country to reach that is not of any concern, blaming everything on the shitty KMT warlords/the "zelensky regime", etc etc etc

>>2340325
Are you fighting against voices in your head again? Take your meds

>>2340284
The more relevant idea is that ziggers would have supported Kuomintang over CPC because it's bigger and heckin anti-imperialist, look, they even reorganized the party on Leninist principles. Just like Lenin lmao. The communist movement has a long history of kneeling for bourgeois retards only to end up with another knife in their back and another American ally.

>>2340535
Who are the CPC in the ukraine situation?

>>2340314
Sneed, glowie.

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>>2340544
No one, the point is that the communist movement put a major emphasis on anti-imperialist action all the way back in 1920s even when it supposedly went against their other goals. Whether anti-campists like it or not, we express a real and important part of what the communist movement was immediately after the october revolution, as in, when we know with certainty that it was communist.

Was he cooking with this one?

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>>2340602
banger tweet i am now a staunch duginist

>>2340284
I mean if the Germans weren’t fascist and were allied with the Soviet Union then yeah I probably would critically support them against fascist Poland lol

>>2340602
Dugin more like Do Be Spittin (Facts)

>>2340602
I think he's going senile.

If Nazi Germany didn't perpetrate the holocaust and wasn't suicidally anti-communist, them attacking (fascist) Poland would be a bog-standard European conflict that's been the norm for over 1,000 years, and if the entire network of global capitalist conglomerates unanimously united against them in such case while colonized nations supported them, it would be quite suspect indeed and probably worthy of support
(But then, it wouldn't be Nazi Germany but I digress)

>>2340284
>>2340325
It’s actually really interesting how the ultra always tries to say, you would have supported the Nazis, you would have supported Japan, but the ultra also believes that the Soviet Union was imperialist. So it would be more accurate to just say that ziggers would have supported the Soviet Union, as according to them, the struggle against fascism was simply an inter-imperialist war, much like this war. So, why don’t they say that? It’s what they believe? Are they being disingenuous or do they not actually believe what they say

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>>2340284
The TRVKE that killed leftypol forever

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>>2340756
The Nazis were based anti-imperialists. #WokeNazi


>>2340756
>analysis is mostly ideology

>>2340911
>dialectics is mostly conundrum

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>>2340929
The dialectics that can be told is not the eternal dialectics. The name that can be named is not the eternal Name.

>>2340929
>make ideologically driven ramblings
>call it dialects
>le science

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>>2340955
That's not very dialectical of you comrade.

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>>2328983
Say it with me:

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Stagnant lines
fuck you Cucktin

>>2340320
>muh bordiga
What does le icp say about le bordiga le supporting le hitler?

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>>2340320
If Putin can make yield the odious powers of Ukraine and America, while making thus precarious the capitalist world balance, long live the butcher Putin who works in spite of himself to create the conditions of the proletarian world revolution!

>>2340284
Didn't know that everyone was a trot
Once a trot, always a trot

>>2341365
what the fuck is the three finger salute ?.
showing how their wives are getting it behind their back ?.

>>2341406
serbian thing as well

>>2340766
>NOOO Leave the USA and the Great Britain ALOOONE. They are just trying to peacefully destroy anyone that stands in the way of their rapacious schemes of world domination. Anyone who opposes them is the same as Nazi Germany because Nazi Germany also did that!

>>2340284
do you ever get tired of making up alternate history scenarios or do you see it as a form of escapism that makes getting your beliefs destroyed by the real world easier to swallow?

>>2339884
2much givas



Largest protest since declaration of martial law takes place in Kiev

>The protesters gathered downtown near the entrance to the House of Trade Unions, which was cordoned off by the police


>MOSCOW, June 19 /TASS/. About a thousand people have rallied in the heart of Kiev against the actions of Ukraine’s National Agency for Asset Search and Management (NAASM), the Ukrainian edition of Insider reported publishing a video.


>The protesters gathered downtown near the entrance to the House of Trade Unions, which was cordoned off by the police.


>"We are fighting at the front, while in the rear the state is taking our land and the right to vote!" the demonstrators chant.


>Earlier, NAASM head Yelena Duma wrote on Telegram that the agency had submitted to law enforcement agencies an appeal about the improper use of the building, which was seized in 2021 in the case of misappropriation of state property by trade union organizations. It was later transferred to the NAASM under the condition that nearly 90% of the revenues from its use be paid to the state budget. However, until this April, the leaders of the trade union movement participated in the management of the House of Trade Unions.


>At first, they tried to open a restaurant in the building, which is one of the symbols of the 2014 Maidan revolution, but later they set up a poker club in its basement. "I am sure that the majority of virtuous trade union members, of whom there are thousands, had no idea that their contributions were used by the Federation of Trade Unions of Ukraine for the maintenance of a gambling establishment," said Yelena Duma. "Instead of social protection for thousands of union members, they received shady property sales, gaming clubs in historic buildings, and union bosses with millions of dollars in wealth."


https://tass.com/society/1976709

>>2340284
>Daily reminder that Ziggers if they would lived in the 30s would defend Nazism because is "fighting against british imperialism"

Those butthurt about today's anti colonialism and support for nationalism need to reduce everything to European divisions 100 years ago

>>2340284
Daily reminder that Bose supported the Empire of Japan and is remembered as a hero in India.

Daily reminder that Godwin's law implies you have liberal mind worms.

It does feel as though the only part ultras like about MLM is that time where China opened up friendly(ier) relations with US to spite the Soviet Union for doing communism wrong. Like late Maoist-China, they’re raging against the imperialists while shaking hands with Nixon and providing critical support to NATO expansion because two wrongs do make a right. The USSR did do the idealist cringe of destalinisation, Russia, Iran, etc are doing the historically not-unexpected but nevertheless idealist cringe of bourgeois nationalism, but to have the reaction of
>I’m against the imperialists but even I’m rooting for them against <insert target of imperialism>
over it is quite frustrating as something that keeps happening in every epoch.

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>>2340284
>Daily reminder that Ziggers if they would lived in the 30s would defend Nazism because is "fighting against british imperialism"

>>2322298
>lose
$40 billion a year status? Kursk status? Patriot missile status? Demographics status?

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In a shocking turn of events, #Russiagate has been turned around and is now a miga boomer thing. Anti-ziggers, you don't need to do your thing anymore. Unless you're magacom nazbol chvds who are on the same side as Trump and Jordan Peterson?

>>2340762
the ultra never replied

>>2341703
the position isn't affected either way, no war but the class war

Bordiga would have supported Russia

>>2341703
Disinformation and exploitation by foreign powers was always a pretext to suppress divisions the establishment caused via conflict with said foreign powers
>>2341720
Anti imperialism is class warfare. Iranian, Russian, and Chinese nationalism have all risen in parallel in resistance to recolonization efforts under unipolarity and globalization. They all highly how liberalism is just the rule of global capital.

>>2340762
Of course a simple rethoric device can be so spun around to make you look good. The point is that ziggers would call the USSR ultra for not being mensheviks and be followers of ᴉuᴉlossnW to own british imperialism.

>>2341728
Honestly though when you talk to these people, you get the sense that they’re in pain when they’re promoting about how abiding they are to a materialist perspective, like it’s a crutch they hate having to limp into internet bitch fights with, thus when the subject is something like Iran or Russia that have idealists philosophies underlying their governance, they’re thrilled because they can lose the crutch of materialism and go back to “fighting fire with fire” so to speak with idealism.

It’s like an eye for an eye, the Ayatollah runs a religious fundamentalist society, thus it’s open season to criticise and agitate for imperialist victory over Iran for equally idealist reasons like
>if their society is smashed and assimilated into the wider imperialist economy as a resource mine led by a comprador government with CIA black sites disappearing dissidents and revolutionaries, then I’m sure the future revolution will happen the way *I* want history to play out

>>2341727
you're right, it is a class war, between hegemonic bourgeois imperialists and non-hegemonic bourgeois imperialists

>>2341751
but i will concede to you that the more these two bourgeois coalitions fight each other, the greater a chance of proletarian revolution is

>>2341728
Yeah but again why go this far and make up some nonsense like that when they can just say that ziggers would support the USSR. According to the ultra worldview there is no difference between supporting Nazi Germany and supporting the USSR, so why don't they just say that

>>2341763
the salient variable for an ultras' worldview is chuddy vibes. so SU vs nazi, nazi worse and therefore the negative point of comparison. SU vs PRC, SU worse. imperial core vs periphery, periphery worse etc.
As such the actual material structure of post-maiden Ukraine as an entho-nationalist project versus the multi-ethnic russian federation is lost behind their contrary positions in western culture war. Itself the product of how liberal hegemony adopts progressivism as a casus belli for intervention (and thus lumpen counter reaction from the periphery) rather than a perceived failure to 'choose right'. The only movement that would qualify their aesthetic tendencies would be a woke Maoist first world ppw in the imperial core. While I wouldn't complain over that (Insane contradictions not withstanding) it belies a common idealism in the believed western primacy in driving history forward. All else, doubly so if it sadly isn't at the forefront of social politics, is heresy.

>>2341666
That is not why China turned to trade with America.
China was reliant on Soviet help to complete the industrialization process. Khrushchev pulled all advisors and technical assistance out. The Chinese then tried to do it alone (Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution) and concluded that they couldn't. Then and only then did they opt for a NEP.

>>2341670
if you dont support imperialism you're a NAZI. take that tankie!

>>2341751
>imperialists without hegemony
so we aren't discussing international systems despite capitalism being far global than anything marx or lenin saw

>>2341791
>The Chinese then tried to do it alone (Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution) and concluded that they couldn't.

Nonsense. They managed to do complete the industrialization, *that's why* China was confident and strong enough follow their own policies. Americans came later, when China didn't succumb to either Soviet or American pressure

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>>2341744
>>2341763
These ziggers didn't understand what I wrote and think I agree with them


>>2341822
Irrelevant whether we’re in agreement tbh, the point still stands that ultras are eager to engage in the idealism of
>if it was 193x with your 2025 opinion on not Nazi Germany, I think you’d support Nazi Germany!
and look for any excuses to drop materialism.

>>2341770
wtf, a good post on my leftypol?!

>>2341824
>The minister stressed that a recession was not a foregone conclusion, later telling reporters that whether it could be avoided would largely hinge on policy choices, particularly interest rate decisions.
Yawn, just one more sanctions package and it’s ogre.

I'm an ultra and I like the early years of the USSR tho. Even some Stalin too.

>>2341864
Shit take. Idealizing the early years is asinine. It was a backwards illiterate peasant country that became a modernized powerhouse. You fetishize the turbulent years (which is to say infancy) instead of acknowledging the enormous achievements the mature system brought.

Ask yourself, would you rather be born into an illiterate peasant family with like 50% childhood mortality or an industrialized space faring economy?

>>2341770
Unironically good post

>>2341824
Can't open link, any mirror or screencap?

>>2341866
It’s the difference between conducting revolution in a beret or a suit, early stages have that “people’s militia” vibe where you get to march about with a gun, a red scarf around your neck and a photo of Marx in your pocket, while the developmental stages involves meetings in boardrooms, pouring over data and coming up with projections to plan economically against.

Sad truth of it is that the vast majority of socialist development looks pretty much like that of any other stage of history, just a lot of engineering and technological development and planning the utilisation of it.
If you continue down the militia-vibes-only path of “everyone pick up your pitchforks and let’s attack development like it’s another revolution, hurrah!” You end up killing all the sparrows and melting down agricultural tools to produce pig iron in. MLMs and ultras can’t face that Mao has his role for a relatively short term, after that it’s decades of boring Dengism or Stalinism to build shit after much careful consideration by well educated people with glasses.


>>2341822
I think the problem is that what you write is so stupid that Anons assumed you were being sarcastic

>>2341803
>They managed to do complete the industrialization
China had 50% of their population still working in Agriculture as late as 2010. Urbanization was by no means complete.

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>>2341869
swentr.site (RTnews spelled backwards) is already a mirror. Since the ban of RT in the EU this is the mirror you can access it with in our freeze peach paradise.

>>2341770
That’s not really what ultras do though. You’re more describing a particularly annoying /leftypol/er who has no concrete belief and apes ultra rhetoric when it suits them. A real ultra believes that Hitler and Stalin are essentially the same

>>2341942
>>2341803
People don't seem to realize how backwards China was due to colonialism/imperialism. China reached the pre-WW2 level of development the USSR had in the fucking 90's. That's half a century lag behind another underdeveloped country.

>>2341969
This is also why Xi is not going to go to war over Taiwan. As far as the Chinese communists see it they're not even done developing internally they don't want the additional trouble of diverting all resources to military production for a pointless war when they can just absorb Taiwan peacefully 1 century later when Amerikkka has finished dying.

>>2341974
Never underestimate Chinese planning. These fuckers have 50 and 100 years plans.
https://english.www.gov.cn/news/topnews/202107/01/content_WS60ddd47ec6d0df57f98dc472.html
>in 2021 Xi declares China has became a moderately prosperous society in all respects
>next stop: 2050, the second centenary goal of building China into a great modern socialist country in all respects
and the theoretical framework for these goals comes from fucking Deng in the 1980's. Such long term planning is historically unprecedented.


>>2341957
Your are describing le anons who say this is le interimperialist conflict

Tell me this isnt le interimperialist conflict, i dare you

>>2342146
It's not
In order have globalization and for it to break down by core and periphery, there must be an overcoming of inter imperialist rivalry. There's just overwhelming evidence of that after WW2.

>>2342146
It's not, since imperialism isn't when big country invades smol bean country.
>it was big China who was the imperialist for resisting the anti-imperialist invasion of smol bean Japan

>>2341957
So everyone else rightfully believes they are standard liberals in return. Not to put to fine a point on it, it's in essence the same again.
What would a bona-fide ultra even look like in this day and age? There are liberals, other assorted reactionaries and communists (largely tankie etc.) and that's it.

And I don't mean that as a swear either (in this case), it's really purely descriptive.
Some of my best friends are liberals.
And "ultras" may have some idiosyncratic beliefs but it has no bearing on reality, this world we live in.
At that point you may as well believe in the lizard men.

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>Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto said Friday that NATO “as it is, no longer has a reason to exist,” and that the EU does not count on the global stage.

>“Before, U.S. and Europe used to be the center of the world — now, there is everything else with which a relationship must be built,” he said, adding: “We often talk as if we were still living 30 years ago, but everything has changed.”


>“If NATO was created to guarantee peace and mutual defense, it must either become an organization that takes on this task by engaging with the Global South — and thus become something profoundly different — or we will not achieve the goal of having security within rules that apply to everyone,” he said.

https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-no-reason-to-exist-italian-defense-minister-us-europe-summit-giorgia-meloni-mark-rutte-guido-crosetto/

>>2342598
Obviously on Putin's pay

>>2342146
<imperialism is when a country intervenes in an ethnic cleansing and responds to a broken ceasefire

>>2342598
WEE WOO WEE WOO
alarm, alarm, a competent westoid politician who actually understands what's going on
WEE WOO WEE WOO
must. remove. immediately.

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>>2342428
>And "ultras" may have some idiosyncratic beliefs but it has no bearing on reality, this world we live in.
what they have in common is idealism, where progress and human rights come from voting and legal decrees instead of an increase in the level of productive forces. hence the button meme and obsession with abolishing commodity production. its not the hard work of building the material foundation to actually fulfill those rights its just declaring it to be so, and so their opponents who refuse to issue the decree that would bring their utopian ideal must be secret fascists

Assad general reveals new life in central Russia

A former general in ex-Syrian President Bashar Assad’s army who found refuge in central Russia has spoken to local media. The man, who gave an interview to 66.RU on condition of anonymity, told the media outlet that he is determined to integrate into Russian society and is not considering returning to Syria.

The ex-general, who asked to be identified by his call sign ‘Wolf’, recalled the overthrow of the Assad government in December. During a swift offensive by Islamist anti-government groups in Syria, he watched as many of his comrades, including senior commanders, deserted their positions en masse.

“I can’t wrap my head around it. It was treason, there are no two ways about it,” Wolf told Russian reporters.

After the coup, the ex-general left his wife and children in a hiding place for fear of persecution by the militants. He then managed to make it to the Russian Khmeimim Air Base along with his sister and two nephews. He explained that his children would most likely not have been able to complete the perilous trip.

After being transported to Russia, he ended up in the country’s Sverdlovsk Region. Wolf, who studied in Leningrad (nowadays St. Petersburg) in the USSR, already had a good command of Russian when he arrived, but continues to master the language.

Having secured temporary protection status, he found an odd job that helps keep him and his relatives afloat financially.

“I’m now waiting for the paperwork so I can start working officially at a plant or factory. I’m having my residence permit application processed,” the former commander said, adding that he was willing to take up any job ten to twelve hours a day.

He added that he does not intend to return to Syria because he believes the country will be in turmoil for at least a decade to come. “Let my children live like normal people in Russia,” the former general concluded, insisting that he now feels “more like a Russian than a Syrian.”

Following the armed opposition’s rise to power in late 2024, the Islamists have reportedly perpetrated several massacres of the Alawite religious minority, as well as Christians and Druze communities across Syria.

https://swentr.site/russia/620056-former-syrian-general-russia-talks-media/

>>2343566
Based family abandoner

>>2341948
>verge of recession
oh no, like all of europe and the us…
i'm not even sure russia has any real problem though. there's a debate going on about interest rates. when you want the goverment to lower rates you fearmonger about a recession, when you want them to raise rates you fearmonger about inflation.

>>2343566
The fate of all "anti-imperialists"

>>2343845
Happy retirement?

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The current arc just got a new big twist.

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uh oh trouble in paradise
>Washington has had it with Andriy Yermak

>One of the people familiar with Yermak’s interactions with the Trump administration described him as a “bipartisan irritator.”


>People familiar with Kyiv’s relationship with its most important partner characterized Yermak’s interactions with both administrations as tense and difficult. They said that Yermak, a former movie producer, still struggles to navigate the corridors of power in Washington almost six years since he rose to become Zelenskyy’s closest aide.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/19/ukraine-andriy-yermak-frustrates-trump-administration-00414197

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I wrote the 1st prediction in Dec 2024, got the first 2 right, the rest, wrong (I think) too optimistic of a timeline, pushed everything back ~2 months, looks more realistic now. https://southfront.press/kursk-and-belgorod-liberated-as-kyiv-plots-bryansk-offensive/ , https://southfront.press/russians-break-into-dnepropetrovsk-region/

>>2344062
two more months

Wrap it up, this movie is too slow

All my ziggers are cannibals. Ws in the chat right now.

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>Daily reminder that Ziggers if they would lived in the 30s would defend Nazism because is "fighting against british imperialism"
easiest (You)s ever milked.
get better material, nonetheless. that line is already eroded.

>>2344042
ukraine is so desperated to be trated by the US the same way zionists are treated. with unconditional, unchallenged, and unopposed support.
lmao.

>>2344062
At least you confessed that Cuckin failed to hit 99% of your goals. That's better than posters like IntBrigade or SaboCat2.0 (not to be confused with original SaboCat poster who has left us) who insist on imminent Ukrainian defeat within the next 2 hours.

>>2344120
What are Russia's goals. Enlighten us.

>>2344135
Main goal is regime change. Ukraine is a fascist dictatorship which literally murders dissidents bans all opposition as ition parties and media and builds monuments to Nazi collaborators.

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SPEED DEMON

>>2344206
>Main goal is regime change
not in the SMO objectives. that's the US glowies writing opeds and articles in fed media, like FT, NYT, the economist, etc.

It's out!

>>2344215
How do you denazify a country without overthrowing its government?

>>2344230
11 years later i still do understand how mh17 is supposed to be some propaganda talking point against russia lol

>>2344232
by making the government dismantle the volunteer army it formed out of the protests and sent against anti-maidan

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White feathers ae so 20th century

Now cute girls will actively hunt you down with drones near the border when you try to escape.

>A border guard explained how she uses a drone to track men trying to leave Ukraine.


Do you realize how FUCKED you are, anon?

>>2344238
It doesn't even matter who shot it down, Ukraine is at fault for routing a passenger plane through a warzone with active AD

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>>2344278
Exactly when most airlines were already rerouting south of Crimea as I recall

>>2344232
<duh huh, gotcha-with retard face.jpg
As if not killing zelinsky is a gotcha for the sincerity of their goals on denazification.
every westerner comes in "hating nazis to the point of questioning the real objectives of the SMO" by stating this gotcha except when they have to kill the nazis and the nazis financers that got alive the banderite movement abroad, and infiltrated the ukrainian politics.
how many nazis and nazis financers have YOU killed in the west?
>>2344240
he didn't ask out of sincerity.

And before you say: REEEEE BUT I DIDN'T GO TO A WAR WITH UKRAINE
At least Russia has killed more nazis and banderites than you will ever kill in your pathetic excuse of existence.

>Luka cucked on Tikhanovsky
actually wtf
whatever happened to смерть фашизму

>>2344311
>Helped Ukrainians flee war
>Charged with terrorism and treason charges
So she was sentenced by Ukraine I assume

>>2344311
>search name
>she helped raise money for Azov
into the gulag she goes

>>2344374
say what you want about Cucktin but he smoked those fascist faggots Navalny and Nemtsov

>>2344374
>he's hoping for sanctions relief
Luka isn't seeing the world news? is he that desperate?

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>America gives Israel weapons and money to ethnically cleanse Gaza
>Regional power Iran intervenes to stop the ethnic cleansing
<American "left" for the most part seem to understand the dynamic here and get that Iran is in the right even if Iran isn't the ideal state for the western "left"

>America gives Ukraine weapons and money to ethnically cleanse Donbass

>Regional power Russia intervenes to stop the ethnic cleansing
<American "left" do not seem to understand the dynamic here and seethe endlessly about what Russia is doing

What is the root cause of this? Russiagate conspiracy theory and Trump derangement syndrome? Leftover Russophobia from the cold war?

>>2344374
>>2344396
So does Tikahnovskaya no longer get to play the rightful leader of Belarus any more?

>>2344396
tbh they probably showed up and were like hey force Putin to negotiatie, and he said no, so they negotiated some bullshit like this to save face

>>2344397
>>Regional power Iran intervenes to stop the ethnic cleansing
LOL? Iran was fine with sitting back after the 2024 strikes. This current back and forth is only because Israel is so bloodthirsty and hit Iran.

>>2344397
There has been acceptance promoted in the West for Muslims (rightfully so of course), but not for Russians.

>>2344397
Are we really comparing the Gaza genocide to Ukraine's language laws here

>>2344419
>fascist slogans, fascist symbols
<erm but perhaps they’ll stop at banning the language
Already cultural genocide, dangerous stupidity to expect the genocide ends there

>>2344317
>>2344278

The video says that at least 160 other planes passed through the same place that day and that the problem was that BUK was operating which had higher range than manpads. Also Russia told lots of lies afterwards.

>>2344397
Well one thing is that the muslim resistance has had consistently good PR with leftists since the 60s, this is also why Israeli abuses in Palestine immediately get covered by orgs going back decades while nothing of the sort existed in the Donbass
In the case of Palestine and Israel, the power dynamics are also readily apparent, while in the case of Russia/Ukraine you need some level of systemic thinking to see that Russia faces unprecendented pressure from the combined imperial capital and it's more complex than "big country vs smol country"

>>2344421
>cultural genocide

Adrian, please…

>>2344439
tbh it seems like you are objecting to the sympathetic portrayal of donbass residents and are just using the gaza comparison as a vehicle from which to make such a quibble

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>>2344397
>Regional power Iran intervenes to stop the ethnic cleansing
What the fuck are you talking about? Iran only started attacking when they were directly on the receiving end and will immediately stop once the zionist entity cucks out. Yemen is the only nation brave enough to stand up for Palestinians, no questions asked.

>>2344444
nice fucking digits
but this war definitely started over the Gaza genocide even if Iran only carried it out half-heartedly until it became existential for them

>>2344419
>it's just language laws bro
<8 years of targeted attacks against Russians, Roma, Muslims, and other minorities between 2014 and 2022
I'll have to find the external hard drive but I have videos of azovites destroying roma camps and physically assaulting brown skinned women in the street.

>>2344444
but who finances yemen? i agree that they only started directly when they were themselves attacked but they aren't exactly in a position to directly intervene by themselves without the UN coming down on them for "unprovoked aggression"

>>2344444
>>2344414
ok those are good points, my bad

I don't even see why the language laws should be downplayed. If a government that isn't aligned with the West made a law rescinding the language rights of half the country, it would be universally seen as quite bad. If the same government proceeded to declare an "anti-terrorist operation" against people protesting it and bomb civilians with military aircraft, it would very quickly become a sanctioned pariah state. But since Russia is big and has chuddy vibes, Russians elsewhere cannot be a discriminated minority I guess.

>>2344374
i wonder why he did this. none of the articles i can find say anything about what he got in return or what he was hoping to achieve (at least nothing that makes sense).

>>2344397
><American "left" for the most part seem to understand the dynamic here and get that Iran is in the right even if Iran isn't the ideal state for the western "left"
lol

lmao

>>2344522
nah I can speak to this personally, its a lot better than i expected

>>2344530
The initial spazzout was absent, and so was the debate over imperialism. It's like /ukr/s pseudo-ultras spread like a disease to yell at Iran being imperialist for defending itself.

Ukraine is a country I have a very intimate relationship with.

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Alright which one of you guys was it? Looking at you Kampuchea Anon.

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>>2344816
>Cucktin after he sees this and is transformed into Basedin

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/coalition-of-the-willing-ukraine/

How NATO military doctrine failed Ukraine on the battlefield

<This will also doom the ‘Coalition of the Willing’ — in part because these forces were trained to wage the Cold War, and Russia has evolved


>The war in Ukraine has raged for over three years. As ceasefire talks loom, major European NATO members including Germany, UK, France and Denmark are planning to protect any future armistice by sending their troops as peacekeepers in a “Coalition of the Willing.”


>Their goal is to deter the Russians from restarting the war. Unfortunately, deterrence comes from combat capability. Without it there is no deterrence at all. That capability is in question. NATO equipment and doctrine was developed for the Cold War and tested in the mountains of Afghanistan. It has not been tested in conventional war and needs to absorb lessons from the Ukraine war to offer a military option to the European elites, independent of the United States.


>Many Western military specialists do not appreciate the evolution in warfare. They believe that NATO’s “combined arms” doctrine will break the Russian Army. Unfortunately, emerging technology increased defensive firepower to the point where it defeats the protection capability of the attacker. The combination of artillery and drones destroys any attacking force before it can penetrate in depth. So far NATO leadership does not seem to have adopted its doctrine, equipment, or professional training to the new environment.


>NATO doctrine evolved from the U.S. “Air Land Battle” developed to stop massed Soviet tanks from breaking through Germany’s Fulda Gap in the 1980s. Frontline units affected no more than 15km, maximum range for artillery at the time. Reconnaissance assets were mainly scouts or manned aircraft and neither could establish persistent observation of enemy rear for long.


>War in Ukraine upended this environment. Proliferation of drones enabled both sides to establish persistent observation 30 –100 km in depth. Strike systems like short-range first-person view (FPV) drones can range 30 km beyond the front, and fixed-wing drones such as “Lancets” can reach 70 km. Artillery range grew from 15km to 50km and in some cases 70km.


>The extended ranges of weapons mean it’s easier to mass fire (fire from two or more weapons directed at a single target or area). In the 1980s, an attacking battalion could only be engaged by strike systems of an opposing battalion, today it can be hit by full fires of the three to five enemy battalions in the opposing line.


>The “safe” areas in the friendly rear have disappeared. Getting to the front is a journey of 50-70 km under constant enemy observation and strikes. Any large formation moving through this zone is likely to get destroyed before reaching the front. For example, during the Zaporozhye counteroffensive, large portions of mechanized Ukrainian forces were destroyed without even breaching Russian outer minefields.


>Most pundits assume that Ukraine failed to follow NATO doctrine. This is false. Ukraine tried NATO doctrine, but abandoned it after it failed on the battlefield. For example, it lacked a realistic concept for dealing with enemy minefields and fortifications. German instructors told incredulous Ukrainian soldiers, “just drive around the minefields.”


>This advice proved suicidal in the face of Russian/Soviet sappers, who’s reputation for massive, complex minefields reach back to WWII.


>The overall pitfalls in the NATO doctrine, is that it assumes massive overmatch in equipment, munitions and airpower, provided by an overwhelming industrial base. Without those advantages NATO doctrine fails to deliver results.


>There is also lack of professionalism among NATO officers, stemming from over 20 years of “War on Terror” that atrophied professional education in realms of conventional warfare. The loss of institutional knowledge has deeply affected Western militaries and is exacerbated by hubris gained from victories over weaker powers.


>The New York Times article, “Secret History of the War In Ukraine,” describes the consequences of the NATO mind set. Falling back on their War on Terror experience, U.S. advisers focused on long range fires but completely neglected cavalry (heavy mechanized scouts).


>Russian defense belts are preceded by “security zones,” an area about 10 km deep, which is held by dispersed heavy mechanized scouts, tasked with keeping enemy scouts away from the main defense belt and disrupting the attacker’s main body. In battles of Kherson and Zaporozhye, the Russian outpost line routinely broke up Ukrainian attacks with heavy losses, before those attacks reached the main defense belts.


>A similar issue emerged at the battle of Krinki, where UK advisers experimented with new amphibious warfare doctrine, sacrificing the Ukrainian Marine Corps in the process. Even U.S. advisers thought they had zero chance to succeed. Feedback from the front was filtered through the prism of familiar NATO military culture and rarely resulted in updated NATO’s doctrine and training models.


>Observing the latest NATO exercise in the Baltic, French soldiers still clear trenches, in large, clustered groups, using small arms. The only drone visible belongs to the reporter taking PR shots. Meanwhile in Ukraine, the Russian army uses drones at every level, from providing instant updates to assault troops to dropping grenades into strong points ahead of them. To preserve the lives of soldiers, grenades and large explosives are used to clear bunkers and corners instead of sending men.


>The French appear to do none of these tactics. The outcome of the clash between these two forces is not hard to predict.


>A similar picture appears to be in the air, where both sides are flying low, employing standoff munitions, lobbed from safety provided by friendly air defense. Glide bombs are the weapons of choice for both Russians and Ukrainians, reducing exposure time and reducing aircraft losses to single digits.


>Will NATO adopt this practice? Unlikely. NATO military experts still talk about gaining air superiority and penetrating airspace beyond the front, flying into the very heart of Russian air defenses. Without the massive U.S. Air Force, Europeans would quickly run out of aircraft. This problem is exacerbated by low readiness rates, for example only 30% of German aircraft can actually fly.


>The equipment is another sore point. Europe has donated so much that it's almost out. In an artillery centric war, many NATO members ( UK, Denmark) have none. Western arms makers have focused on performance over mass, resulting in few boutique solutions which rapidly wear out in prolonged combat. The war in Ukraine churns through equipment at a rate that the West can't replace. For example, production of donated M777 artillery, billed as game changer, cannot keep up with losses and by now are mostly destroyed.


>Attrition brings up another question. How to regenerate manpower? Russians use patriotism and financial incentives. Ukraine uses increasingly draconian draft. What will Europeans do? Right now, key European countries have volunteer armies and are struggling to fill the ranks. The European public opposes sending troops to Ukraine, so a surge of volunteers is unlikely.


>This leaves introducing a draft, which is always an unpopular measure, but the migrant crisis risks exacerbating the situation. New citizens are unlikely to fight in Ukraine, without massive unrest. Excluding them will result in equally massive unrest from the European indigenous population. Either way, the draft threatens tearing European societies apart.


>Instead of taking time to learn the lessons from Ukraine and improve its combat capability, NATO appears to assume that Russians don’t know how to fight. In the meantime both European training and equipment readiness rates are abysmal.


>Here lies the ultimate puzzle. Given the inadequacy of NATO’s European forces to fight a sustained war, one must wonder, what are the European leaders hoping for? Do they delude themselves into thinking Russia is losing and they can defeat it in war, like some in the U.S.? Are they bluffing, or do they assume that the mere sight of Western forces will cause Russians to capitulate?


>Why are they willing to run the real risk of a military defeat with all its negative political and economic consequences? Europe must address these questions before a catastrophic mistake is made.

>>2344816
All me
Based schizo

>>2344238
The liberal I constantly argue with cites it as proof that Russia invaded Ukraine and the the separatists were just Russian soldiers because the ad that allegedly shot down the plane could only have been Russian and operated by Russians.

Or something like that.

https://johnhelmer.net/the-presidents-of-russia-and-china-announce-the-cardinal-points-of-the-obvious/

It was just before high noon in Moscow on Thursday, June 19, when President Vladimir Putin initiated his telephone call to President Xi Jinping of China. A read-out by Putin’s foreign policy assistant, Yury Ushakov, followed almost immediately.  

Xi did not authorize his summary for twenty-four hours until the Chinese official media organ, Global Times,  published an editorial titled “The ‘four-point proposal’ injects stabilizing force into the crisis in the Middle East”.   Another official version from Beijing, delayed for nine hours, can be read here.  

In between Putin’s read-out and Xi’s editorial, the Russian General Staff leaked its assessment that the US, Israel and their allies are demonstrating in the Iran war,  as they have already demonstrated in the Ukraine war, that negotiations for a ceasefire, a truce, or a peace agreement are pointless now.

Pretending this isn’t so is the Kremlin consensus for the time being. According to Xinhua, repeating the pretence in public is also the Bejing consensus.  

Before he called Xi, Putin told the Xinhua press agency and other reporters: “we are ready and substantively guide the [Ukraine war] negotiations on the principles of settlement…We are in contact, our negotiation groups are in contact with each other. Only just now [Kremlin negotiator Vladimir] Medinsky asked — he says that only today he was talking to his counterparties from Kiev. In principle, they agree to meet after June 22.”  

Unspoken in public for the time being is the discussion among Russian political and military leaders on what Putin’s surprise statement revoking the terms of the Russian pact with Iran means to the remaining treaty allies, China and North Korea.  “With regard to the Strategic Treaty,” Putin has announced for the “Treaty on the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership between the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Russian Federation” he signed on January 17, 2025  — “there are no articles related to the defence sphere.”  

Moscow knows this is false.

According to a well-informed source, “the Iranians have assured Putin through the security people that they are able to hold out. Putin is not calling out Trump’s lies because there will be no burning of bridges with Trump for as long as possible. Nothing will be gained from this. Calling Putin out on Israel is something everyone is avoiding here and might be the most sensitive nerve. So it’s best avoided.”

Putin revealed at his meeting with international news agencies after midnight on June 18 that some time earlier, he had discussed with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the Israeli plan of attack on Iran’s nuclear reactors and nuclear fuel plants. Putin did not say he had told Netanyahu not to attack. Instead, Putin told the press,  “more than 200” Russians are working at the Bushehr reactor in southern Iran, and that with Netanyahu “we have agreed with the leadership of Israel which will ensure their security.”  

The full Russian text of Putin’s remarks at the press conference was delayed in publication by the Kremlin for twelve hours. The official English version of what the President said has not been fully disclosed on the Kremlin website after twenty-fours.

The Xinhua news agency, which attended the presser, reported what had been said after six hours of delay. But the Chinese report has omitted to record Putin’s reactor targeting deal with Netanyahu.

The Reuters news agency, which also asked questions at the presser, published its report of Putin’s statements three hours after they were made.  

According to the Reuters report, “asked if Russia was ready to provide Iran with modern weapons to defend itself against Israeli strikes, Putin said a strategic partnership treaty signed with Tehran in January did not envisage military cooperation and that Iran had not made any formal request for assistance.”  

According to the Kremlin’s version of what Putin said translated unofficially into English, Putin was asked by Karim Talbi, the Agence France Presse (AFP) representative at the meeting: “There is a Strategic Partnership Agreement between Russia and Iran. It does not provide for the protection of Iran from the outside Russia, but still there is a question of weapons. Given the severity of this situation, are you ready to provide new weapons to Iran so they can defend themselves from Israeli strikes?”

Putin replied: “You know, we once offered our Iranian friends to work in the field of air defence systems. The partners did not show much interest at that time, that’s all. With regard to the Strategic Treaty, about the partnership you mentioned, there are no articles related to the defence sphere. That’s the second point. Third, our Iranian friends don’t ask for that. So there’s almost nothing to discuss.”  

The official Kremlin version in English has not yet been published. In AFP’s published record, Talbi failed to report Putin’s reference to the Russia-Iran pact.

The Russia-Iran pact was signed on January 17, 2025 in three languages – Russian, Farsi and English. Click to read this for detailed analysis.  

In the official Iranian version of the treaty in English, Articles 4, 5, and 6 set out defence provisions.  “[1] In order to enhance national security and confront common threats, the intelligence and security agencies of the Contracting Parties shall exchange information and experience and increase the level of their cooperation.[2] The intelligence and security agencies of the Contracting Parties shall cooperate within the framework of separate agreements.”  

Putin, who signed the pact with Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian,  committed  his officials to signing side agreements in secret. Article 5 (1) says: “In order to develop military cooperation between their relevant agencies, the Contracting Parties shall conduct the preparation and implementation of respective agreements within the Working Group on Military Cooperation.” Article 5 (4) amplifies: “The Contracting Parties shall consult and cooperate in countering common military and security threats of a bilateral and regional nature.” Article 6 (1) adds: “Within the framework of a comprehensive, long-term and strategic partnership, the Contracting Parties shall confirm their commitment to develop military-technical cooperation based on respective agreements between them taking into account mutual interests and their international obligations and shall consider such cooperation as an important component in maintaining regional and global security.”  

Putin’s statement to AFP does not deny these elements of the treaty; he revokes them.

With Iran now under attack from Israel, the US and NATO allies, Russian sources concede that Putin’s meaning appears to the Iranians and to other Russian allies, including the Chinese, to violate Article 3 (4) which Putin had signed. “In the event that either Contracting Party is subject to aggression, the other Contracting Party shall not provide any military or other assistance to the aggressor which would contribute to the continued aggression, and shall help to ensure that the differences that have arisen are settled on the basis of the United Nations Charter and other applicable rules of international law.”

If Putin’s statements on Israel and Prime Minister Netanyahu in the press conference may be interpreted as Article 3(4) “assistance to the aggressor”, Moscow sources say they wish to avoid discussing in public what Putin has said:

Asked by Reuters to reply to Netanyahu’s call for regime change in Teheran and Trump’s for Iran’s unconditional surrender, Putin replied: “As you know, Russia and I personally are in contact with the Prime Minister of Israel and on this issue in contact with President Trump. Always you need to see whether the goal is achieved or not at the beginning of something…We can see that today in Iran, with all the complexity of the domestic political processes – we know about this, and I think there is no point in going deeper. But still there is a consolidation of society around the political leadership of the country. It almost always happens everywhere, Iran is no exception. That’s the first point…I think it would be right all together to find ways to stop the fighting and find ways for all parties in this conflict to agree with each other, in order to ensure as the interests of Iran, on the one hand, its atomic activity, including a peaceful atomic activity, of course, I also mean a peaceful atomic energy, and a peaceful atom in other areas, and to ensure Israel’s interests in terms of the unconditional security of the Jewish State. This is a delicate issue, and of course, you need to be very careful here.”

Asked by AFP “if tomorrow Israel with the help of the United States or without the help of the United States, will simply kill [Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali] Khamenei, what will be your and Russia’s reaction, and your first actions?” Putin replied; “Mr. Talbi, if you permit, I hope that this will be the most correct answer to your question: I do not even want to discuss such an opportunity, I do not want to. K.Talbi: But they are already [saying this] themselves This is clearly being discussed – Mr. Trump, Mr. Netanyahu. Vladimir Putin: I hear it all. But I don’t even want to discuss it.”

After June 13, when Putin telephoned Pezeshkian and Netanyahu, the Russian President delayed speaking to Xi for six days; he delayed talking to Xi for five days after he had called Trump on June 14.

In the read-out of the Putin-Xi conversation, Ushakov intimates there has been friction with the Chinese causing the delay and Russian defensiveness over acknowledging this. There had been no delay, Ushakov claimed, because “the phone call took place in keeping with the mutual agreement of the two sides.” That the Chinese had been pressing to know what Putin has been deciding for a week, Ushakov said the “primary focus [was] on the escalation in the Middle East, which is quite logical in the current environment.”

If Xi had asked Putin the same questions which Reuters and AFP had asked him earlier about the US-Israeli war goal of regime change by killing the Iranian leadership, Ushakov did not want to say. Instead, he claimed the two “adopted a position of principle in their belief that the current situation and matters relating to the Iranian nuclear programme cannot be resolved by force, while a solution can only be achieved by political and diplomatic means.”

Did Xi ask Putin to clarify his understanding of the January treaty with Iran, and of the military and intelligence “cooperation” (the Treaty requirement) which Russia is providing the Iranians at the moment?

Putin isn’t acknowledging the obviousness of the issue, nor are he and Xi admitting what they told each other. Instead, according to Ushakov, Putin “informed his colleague about his latest international contacts with a focus on his telephone conversations with the key actors in the context of the confrontation between Israel and Iran. The Russian leader reaffirmed Russia’s readiness to offer its good offices, if necessary. The Chinese leader expressed support for this mediation effort, saying that he believed it could promote de-escalation amid the extreme tension we are witnessing today. In view of this increasingly challenging environment, the two leaders agreed to instruct their respective teams in the relevant agencies and services of the two countries to work closely together in the coming days by sharing insights and perspectives.”

This means Putin has delegated to the Defense Ministry, General Staff, the intelligence services, and the Foreign Ministry the job of “cooperation” with the Chinese which he also says the Iranians haven’t requested and which isn’t required by the treaty if they do.

This may be a smoke screen for the role in the fighting which the Chinese naval squadron is playing since it sailed into the Gulf last month. Coordination of battlefield intelligence between the Chinese, Russian and Iranian navies has been practiced and tested for several years. In the Sea of Oman and the Persian Gulf, the three militaries were exercising this coordination together in March. Article 4 of the January treaty requires it now – unless Putin’s press statement reveals that he has stopped it.

The Ushakov summary, Moscow sources note, “reveals more by what it doesn’t say the two leaders discussed.” There is no condemnation of the Israeli decapitation attacks in Iran; no discussion of what trust Xi and Putin continue to place in Trump, if any; no answer from Putin on the terms Pezeshkian told Putin to communicate to Trump — if the Iranian leadership continues to trust Putin.

In a further sign of defensiveness with Xi, Ushakov reports that Putin has improved on his unusually cold birthday greeting to Xi —  compared to the one he conveyed by telephone to Trump the day before.  Ushakov now says Putin was effusive with Xi in Oriental fashion: “our President warmly congratulated his Chinese counterpart and friend on the occasion of his recent birthday. As is well known, Xi Jinping turned 72 on June 15. In keeping with Chinese tradition, our President wished his friend longevity as enduring as the Southern Mountains and happiness as immense as the East Sea…The conversation lasted approximately an hour, and the leaders bid each other farewell in a very warm and friendly manner.”

The Xi read-out turns the Sino-Russian discoordination into a “four point proposal“:   “The coordination of positions between the Chinese and Russian leaders not only reflects the depth of strategic cooperation between the two countries, but also sends a clear message to the international community: a call to de-escalate tensions and safeguard regional peace…”  Not quite so coordinated — Xi has criticized the US “as a major power with special influence over Israel, the US has not played a constructive role.” In Ushakov’s version, Putin says nothing at all about the US role against Iran.

“So what you see is obvious,” says a well-informed Moscow source. “This is not a Sino-Russian alignment but a US-Russian alignment with the Chinese claiming to join the troika. The message to Trump is very clear — we [Putin] want to make deal; we want sanctions lifted; we want our airline flights and Boeings back; we are ready for compromises. Look what we have done! We have been good boys, haven’t we, in Syria? We have made no new troubles in Libya. We have not made trouble in Venezuela. We are only focused on fighting in our front yard. We accept  that you [Trump] are the hegemon. We’ll complain about it, but we won’t fight to make you weaker. Your strength, dear Uncle Sam, is our economic survival. It’s fine that you rape a few small boys every once in a while,  but we are still being good boys, aren’t we?  This is the reality. And the main media are saying this now — Beijing has abandoned Teheran. Moscow has abandoned Teheran. I add that Teheran has abandoned Iran with too little and too late, so what’s left to fight? For us, it’s Ukraine.”

Several hours after Putin and Xi plumbed what their spokesmen claim to be “the depth of [their] strategic cooperation”, the Russian General Staff leaked its version of the obvious. At 23:14 of June 19 Boris Rozhin, well-known military blogger,  was authorized to issue this announcement, camouflaged by reference to the Iranian political figure and ranking general in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), Mohsen Rezaee:  

“They said that if we negotiate, there will be no war. Negotiations were conducted, and the war began. Now, if we conclude a truce, in two months Israel will attack again – IRGC General Rezaee @parstodayrussian  How familiar. It's about the Minsk Agreement and the negotiations in Istanbul.”  Source: https://t.me/boris_rozhin/169511 

The original Iranian news agency report was posted a few minutes earlier. Mohsen, the Iranian source reported in Russian from a longer televised speech, had said: “A black day awaits Netanyahu and the Israeli army. We are gradually increasing the wave of our strikes to allow people to escape. We urge the Israeli population to leave the Territory as soon as possible and escape. We are gradually increasing the wave of our strikes to allow people to escape. We call on the Israeli population to leave as soon as possible.…We have used only 30% of our current capabilities and only 5% of the total potential. Netanyahu told the United States: either help me or declare a truce. Why don't you run away? Run away already, because we're deliberately stalling for time so that you can escape. New types of weapons will be introduced in the coming days. They said that if we negotiate, there will be no war. Negotiations were conducted, and the war began. Now, if we conclude a truce, Israel will attack again in two months. The enemy is in a weak position right now. If there is a truce, he will strengthen and attack again.”

>>2345021
the start of the uncuckening?

>>2344914
be carefull! liberalism manifests and subverts the suppliant proletariat from within the war between Russia and Ukraine, and between Belarus, serves as a catalyst, inciting the aggression while Ukraine’s INVASION upon Russian territory is propelled by bourgeoisie liberal tendencies. We must preserve each territory possessesd by Ukrain, encompassing all troops trained in kazakhstank to repel this subversive influence, re taking all land salvaged by Ukrainians, We cannot NEGLECT the agency of theese treacherous liberals in fomenting disorder and turmoil, and it is our obligation to restore tranquility by uniting with Stalin against their insidious advancement.

>>2345021
>But the Chinese report has omitted to record Putin’s reactor targeting deal with Netanyahu.
lol! what would you expect really

>>2345021
interesting reading. if that's true, Russians don't want to keep doing more than what they do in ukraine.

>>2345021
All talk. Death to Russia and death China.

>>2345547
Kill yourself radlib

>>2345547
Death to Israel, Ukraine and the United states.

>>2345021
I think Helmer writes a lot of fan fiction while inventing sources, but one thing that separates him from the typical Zigga map sperglord is that he's able to see second-order effects between, for instance, the way Putin has conducted his "SMO" and events in the Middle East.

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>BREAKING: TRUMP LAUNCHES ILLEGAL WAR ON lRAN!
Fully Respect Ukrop here.

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>>2346168
>/ukr/ and slavaukraini libs finally find common ground

So he admitted his cuckery?

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>>2346460
Wow, so trustful, much credential

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>>2346200
Tons of slavaukraini libs have been like this for a while though

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>>2344914
>The liberal I constantly argue with cites it as proof that Russia invaded Ukraine and the the separatists were just Russian soldiers because the ad that allegedly shot down the plane could only have been Russian and operated by Russians.
yea because they're idiots and mh17 was one of the original starting points of the infowar

the reality was mh17 was not supposed to fly over donbass per its own original flight trajectory, there was already warnings issued to airlines but malaysian airlines didn't heed them, and by july 2014 the ATO was fully heating up and Ukrainian jets were being shot down. mh17 was downed over shakhtarsk which was a key summer battle in the ATO prior to russian intervention in the fall

the affair doesn't necessarily prove Russian involvement, Strelkov bragged about capturing a Buk a month prior on vk, i remember seeing the post myself. LDNR militias were initially based heavily on salvaged Ukrainian army equipment, thus their artillery inferiority. the outstanding question is where separatist expertise in using the system came from, which to my knowledge was never answered.

the story is about how ukraine wanted to launch a low level war involving air strikes but also didn't fully control its civilian air space, causing the disaster. the story was then spun as how russia was caught fueling an insurgency and caused an airliner to be shot down.

collapse imminent?

>>2344419
>Are we really comparing the Gaza genocide to Ukraine's language laws here
they don't compare in severity but yes, very much the same principle at play in scrubbing away populations that reject the west for the sake of states that act as outposts for the west.

>>2346626
>yea because they're idiots and mh17 was one of the original starting points of the infowar

Yeah, I know. It's just so tiresome. There's absolutely no getting through to them because there's always some new stupid layer of nato bullshit that positively proves that Russia is in fact evil and at this point I think liberals should all just get the bullet.

>>2341703
Pretty sure ziggers were happy that Trump became president

>>2346635
And to be honest I did briefly look into it, but I only got as far as the "investigation" where only nato was involved and at that point I couldn't care any more. It's not like it could possibly tell me anything that would matter, least of all to this lib. It's not about the plane, or the actual politics involved, it's just a totem to show that the evil Russians were behind it all alone. It's just stupid slop for stupid ameripiggies that can't handle the fact that they're part of the evil empire.

>>2346635
you understand why libs swung to become the pro-war party by the mid 2010s in an ongoing back and forth over the decades. international conflicts are just mirrors for domestic ones for failing parties. first GOP decline under bush, then democrats under obama.
>>2346638
are you actually arguing MAGA dissent is caused by disinfo lmao

they got led up the primrose path like the others. US proxies (including in reverse ironically), dem or rep voters, same shit

>>2346626
>LDNR militias were initially based heavily on salvaged Ukrainian army equipment
I remember this also being the turning point for the narrative on the ATO in the west even prior to MH17, because news outlets started reporting that the separatists had "Russian-designed" or "Russian-origin" weapons that cheekily imply that they were being armed exclusively by Russia and thus Ukraine are not in fact bombing separatists in civilian areas, but for-all-intents-and-purposes the Russian military in an active warzone.

>>2346638
>Pretty sure ziggers were happy that Trump became president
Wait For Trump wasn't a /leftypol/ phenomenon, thank goodness. I saw it a lot on Twitter and Telegram.
I don't like that the Kremlin indulged it, framing every provocation against Russia as an attempt to derail sweet and innocent peacemaker Trump and his negotiations, and trying to downplay all Trump's anti-Russian statements as bad advisors misleading poor naive Trump.

>>2346669
the whole thing is a gigantic grey area because that ukrainian volunteer army drawing on protesters and their militias created a mirror in russia with former vets, intel officials, and other volunteers with no formal ties to the russian state and who moved way ahead of it. crimea was already arming itself in january 2014 for example, and everyone saw the repression of anti-maidan

there was a very real spontaneous mobilization to fight back, maidan's seizure of power meant an incoming confrontation within the country everyone saw coming

thus the concept of 'hybrid war'. the ukraine crisis had blurred the distinction of state and non-state, but not because it was a russian state strategy. it was because the wider fabric of states was breaking down and popular forces filled the void as much as other states. globalization was breaking down.

we wanted to exploit the gap between people on the ground and the russian state, painting it all as a big russian conspiracy serves to exploit russian awkwardness in how it responded to everything moving ahead of it starting with feb 21 2014 and the west abetting its opposition reneging on the deal and seizing power

in the process we've consistently underestimated, thanks to our obsession with putin, exactly how much we were pissing off everyday russians with a violent, supremacist kind of imperialism fueled by post-soviet decay that russians hate AND which echoes europe's own history

i said we earned a reckoning back in feb 2022 bc we really did

>>2346681
>exactly how much we were pissing off everyday russians with a violent, supremacist kind of imperialism fueled by post-soviet decay that russians hate AND which echoes europe's own history

Exactly, because most people in west are kind of proudly ignorant about Russia and are openly content to take claims about the nation at face value, accept logical conclusions if claims are true, assumptions are that ignorance was returned in kind as though the relentless presentation of Russians as the asiatic hordes unfairly winning at Kursk because of their overwhelming numbers compared to the Germans, Chernobyl proving industrial malpractice is a uniquely Russian affliction, the turrets of Soviet-origin Iraqi tanks launching suggesting Russians ethnically just don't have the intelligence to have foresight while designing things, etc, couldn't penetrate the equally strong bubble of Russian ignorance about the west.

But now people are swearing blind like none of that happened and Russia are just imagining this culture of hostility and hatred now that NATO expansion has run into a brick wall, that Russians only feared it out of a schizo paranoia that there was something hostile about the whole thing. Naturally they don't actually believe that narrative themselves, but they're so fucking certain those ignorant Russians haven't heard of the Discovery channel, that they feel they can make that claim anyway. And it's all to just fool themselves so they can presumably run into another brick wall in another decade or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt2u4dlZBHE

BREAKING
<Belarus' Permanent Representative to the UN said that Minsk and the US are discussing normalization of relations with the full resumption of work of embassies

>>2344421
>Cultural genocide is the same thing as children just today being sniped to death by zionazis that Ruzzia also supports

>>2346986
Ah but that’s not what post says, does it?

>>2346975
So that's what he got for the fascist, I guess it was a good swerve from Luka but I'd still rather the fascist faggot spent the rest of his life in prison

>>2346986
how about we just agree the spread of liberal capitalism shouldn't be based on either culture or racial/ethnic erasure, and imperialism reaching such a point signals it is deep into crisis and becoming extremely reactionary

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>This bad boy will defeat russia
All that has to be done is mass produce it and russia is toast.
https://www.baesystems.com/en/product/cv90
The only reason russia got away with making garbage junk like the bmp's is because russians are simps for their government and can easily be conscripted into useless wars for their tsars' and boyars' palaces. Conscription has been a disaster for the militaries of many countries. Professional armies with professional equipment are the future.
Sorry russians, you cannot compete.

>>2347502
Not gonna happen, the vvest can't even mass produce shells, much less IFV.
Professional armies are only useful to war against armies where the bodycount is low, Ukr/Russia near peer war show it's impossible.
Wunderwaffle from the vvest has failed and will fail.
being smug won't change the results, more smugtards have tried and the war still goes on.

>>2347502
Russia switched to a smaller professional army in the 2000s.

It's been 3 and a half fucking year. When will the Russians actually annex Ukraine

>>2347617
The unelected politicians that comprise the Putin's team (Medinski in particular) are saying that they are ready to wage the war F O R E V E R. You read that right, they want a forever war. So if we extend the conflict to last however many years it will take for Russia to fully capture Ukraine, it may be easily in the tens of years of year-on-year onslaught.

>>2347625
i.e.
>incompetence

>Vladimir Putin speaks at the St Petersburg International Economic Forum

>>2347672
Doesn't actually start until 24:00


>>2347686
>Putin comments on Russian economy at 29:00
Gdp growth at 4%+, mentions a new gdp formula to separate hydrocarbon and non hydrocarbon industry growth. Says that growth is spread across various sectors of the economy and not just driven by mic.
"Almost all key systematically important industries of the Russian economy have been growing."

>key aspects to address 35:26

First: change the nature of employment and consumption patterns, a "transition to an economy of high wages based not on a shortage of a labor force when entrepreneurs have to raise wages in order to compete for workers. Rather these high wages have to be based on the quality of jobs as well as higher labor productivity."
Unemployment rate stabilized at 2.3% over the last four years.
It's also important to integrate up to date and cutting edge technological solutions like platform based employment and digital market places.
Cites dealing with youth unemployment as important for the social and economic development of a country, with Russia's youth unemployment rate at 7% as opposed to France and the UK's 16 and 11%.
<Very cute business girl spotted at 40:17
Calls to decrease employment in support industry (government?) Jobs with incentives in tech based labor efficient jobs via something something digital solutions
Cites high paying jobs as key to increasing citizens qol and decreasing inequality
Decrease in 2 million people earning less than the minimum wage over the previous year.
>42:06
"Poverty level" in Russia was 29% of the population in 2000, 42.3 million people. In 2024 the level is 7.2%, 10.5 million.
Calls for building an economy of high wages based on higher labor productivity to achieve a level of 5%.
Needs to increase labor mobility by training and retraining them, increase industrial robot integration.
New Federal law promoting the creative industry in 70 regions.
>47:28 talking about the tourist industry
Plans to renovate 1000 cultural heritage sites by 2030
Calls for special projects to recover useful elements from decades of accumulated industrial waste
>51:01 second key area, equality of investment climate
Desires to lower costs for investments and new projects, with a goal to increase capital investments in the country by 60% in 2030 over 2020
<I hope you were looking forward to state capitalism because that's what you're getting
<I wish a bomb would fall on this building and kill all these little piggies
The goal is to make Russia among the top 20 business friendly countries by 2030
By 2030 aggregate spending for r&d in Russia between the state and private business should increase to no less that 2% gdp
>57:00
Competition can be useful but in some cases it decreases efficiency and unity
>1:00:00
Needs more collaboration between research institutions, individual entrepreneurs, and the business environment in developing new technologies and inventions
<cute girl spotted again 1:00:57
They want to develope a market of ip with system of loans secured by patents and trademarks
>1:05:00 discussing digitalizing transport and logistical documents to create international transport corridors among brics states
Digital ruble/ currency promotion
>1:07:04 fourth key area of structural change: export and import
Wants to grow exports beyond oil and gas export
Cooperation and elimination of trade barriers with key partners
>1:07:37 plan for strategic cooperation with china
Going to development "action plan" with India "in near future"
Large scale energy projects implemented with Belarus, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, turkiye, Vietnam, and "a number of other countries." Including nuclear and extractive projects.
Working to increase labor intensive imports to focus domestic labor on high tech, complicated goods and services.
>1:10:07 the Russian defense industry and the fifth area of structural modernization of the economy
1. Whenever possible we need to aim for synergies and adjacencies between the defence and civil sectors; manage production of dual use products; eliminate distinctions between military and civil sectors
2. Speed of change. Time between ideation, creation, production, and distribution of products is shrinking and the military industry should adopt these trends.
3. Flexibility. Military unit commanders are playing a greater role in the development of tactics and supplies/more integration between military commanders and the firms developing their products
4. Increasing the use of ai and drones to combat crime and fight on the battlefield.
>1:15:00 the global economy is going through the greatest changes seen in a decade
The global majority are ramping up their potential and changing the power balance of the planet
At the beginning of the century brics countries were 1/5 of the global economy and now account for 40%
The world needs an alternative development model from the neocolonialist model that serves only the elite of the golden billion
This is probably why we're seeing the changes we're seeing now in the political arena. We need to make sure that all these changes translate into better quality of life for the citizens of our own countries.
>The goal per se is not to modernize the outdated mechanisms of the era of globalization. They are outdated. They have discredited themselves. We need to come up with a new model of development free of any kind of political manipulation, taking into account national interests of the countries. And obviously this model should be focused on the needs of our citizens and their families.
Calls for further brics cooperation and touts the brics model of mutual benefit, parity, and recognizing national interests.
Says the era of one country dealing with the world's problems and acting at the expense of others is over.
>1:21:00 ends speech

God that was exhausting. Sorry for mistakes or omissions, but the translators were speaking very quickly about a lot of topics. A lot of it sounded like empty corporate speak so I tried to relay the important stuff. I guess whatever comments he made about Ukraine happen at another section but either someone else can do that part or I'll do it later.

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French police have arrested a 22-year-old man believed to be British amid claims he tried to marry a nine-year-old girl at Disneyland Paris on Saturday.

Park staff were shocked to see the child, along with her family and around 100 guests, turn up for the event and quickly called the police.

Officers arrived on the scene and took the man into custody along with the girl's 41-year-old mother, who is believed to be Ukrainia

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14835385/French-police-arrest-British-man-marry-girl-nine-Disneyland-Paris.html

>>2347996
Adorable. She can make my line go up any day. Expand my productive forces. Develop my creative industries.

>>2347867
excellent job covering this

>>2348672
she reminds me of the girl who said just because in the libtard "would you nuke america" video

>>2348045
giwtwm

>>2344545
More like pseud-ultras
ultra-pseuds, to be even more accurate

>>2347867
>Desires to lower costs for investments and new projects, with a goal to increase capital investments in the country by 60% in 2030 over 2020
<I hope you were looking forward to state capitalism because that's what you're getting
That's neo-liberalism. Where do you think these "capital investments" come from and where these are being spend on in the country

>>2347867
good work

>>2349159
>Where do you think these "capital investments" come from and where these are being spend on in the country
Communist China and axis of resistance. means of defense and production.

>>2347867
>Putin comments on Russian economy
so what? camgirls' earnings?

To think this all started with a badly thought out 48 hour ATO.
It was supposed to be so easy…

>>2344397
I hate states

Oh no zisters, frigging ziggers took and raped another one of us commies to death

>Bentley called himself a communist. He could frequently be heard stating, like a line straight out of a Hollywood movie: "I hate Nazis." That was what drove him to leave the US, in December 2014: The certainty, nurtured by the Facebook pages he followed, that he was going to fight a government − that of Kyiv − that was subservient to fascism and Western imperialism, one that was "murdering" the civilian population of Donbas.


>In 2014, working as a yoga instructor, he became passionate about the Donbas cause, a struggle being remotely directed by Moscow against the Kyiv government. "I'm anti-racist. I'm anti-imperialist," he said in an interview with Rolling Stone magazine. "I grew up supporting people's rights to defend themselves." In Donetsk, he joined a contingent of several dozen foreigners, the vast majority of whom were far-right (WESTERN IMPERIALIST LIE, RUSSIAN HYPERNTIONALISM IS COMMUNISM) and had already rallied to the pro-Russian movement.


>On April 8, 2024, Bentley was with his wife, Lyudmila, in the center of Donetsk when a Ukrainian army bombardment occurred. The American − who had also held Russian citizenship since 2021 − reportedly drove to the scene to see if he could be of any help. It was under these circumstances that he disappeared, his loved ones finding only his hat and his broken phone in the vehicle.


>Surprisingly, Russian media didn't try to blame Ukraine for his death, either as a result of the bombing or by any other means. Local commanders and military bloggers were quick to claim that the man had been arrested and killed by soldiers from a Russian armored division who possibly were drunk and had mistaken him for a spy.


>Some of these sources went so far as to quote an adviser to the head of the "Donetsk People's Republic," Denis Pushilin, who suggested that Bentley had been raped by these soldiers, who would have felt, after realizing their mistake, that it was too late to make amends and return the American.


>According to those close to him, a double investigation has been opened by the military board of inquiry for the crimes of murder and rape. On April 28, these same sources, speaking on Bentley's Telegram channel, said that his car had mysteriously reappeared near the front line, blown up and incinerated, with the American's remains inside, in an apparent attempt to muddy the waters.


>An investigation by the Russian Investigative Committee into the circumstances of his death found that Bentley, 64, was allegedly tortured and killed at the Petrovskaya mine by members of the Fifth Brigade. The Russian Investigative Committee has accused Vitaly Vansyatsky, Vladislav Agaltsev, Vladimir Bazhin and Andrei Iordanov, members of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, of torturing and killing Bentley as a group through negligence, an action reportedly beyond their authority.

>>2349244
What fascist rag did you take this from, be honest. It doesn’t even seem to be written by someone who understands English

>>2349244
Did you just learn about this? Did they assign us a new glowie? You haven’t even been following the war for a full year 😭

>>2349244
>vostok battalion is far right
Kek

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>>2349295
At some point we have to fix western political science to remind people there's a world outside of liberalism. Unfortunately we have a poor historical memory

>>2349295
I keep telling you nerds this archaic, useless left-right dichotomy is not long for this world

>>2349306
>t. ᴉuᴉlossnW

>>2349307
the old world is dying and the new world is struggling to be born

>>2349293
Yeah that part got me too lol
Like even if you think sut veremy (or whatever it was called) had some strange ideas (and it did) it was definitely a left organization. If you read Tejas’ book, most of his fellow volunteers were anarchists and communists
It’s sad to think almost all the ogs are gone now

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personally, I'm an omeganationalist

>>2349314
Essence of time and Kurginyan, yea. They were weird, mixing ideas given the anarchy of failed liberal capitalism and the temporary Putin band aid fix for it. Namely by combining orthodoxy and socialism to provide a successor to the dominant universalist ideologies of the last century, liberalism and socialism, with which to envision a new USSR but not really succeeding. A strange interim ideology very symbolic of the times in early critiques of globalization that have matured a lot since the early 2010s (and I think showed there's still ultimately nothing but liberalism or socialism)
I never looked into it deeply other than it looking like reverse zizek to me. To me it just looked like incoherent left patriotism trying to make sense of fracture and stagnation in the world. I could be wrong

>>2349347
When I get home, I can post the passage from his book where he describes their ideology, but I think you already nailed it honestly.

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