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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

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Previous Thread: >>2414736

first! ☝️🤓

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She's a patriot!

You can gibe everyone a middle class american lifestyle if you took it all from the haute bourgeois

I mean everyone in the world too

Lol

>>2416437
>live in suburban hell
>eat slop at mcwendys
>watch reality tv day in day out

>>2416448
Yes you will eat am antibiotic free burger on the mini street car that goes from every city and every suburb, you will enjoy it

American eagle is up 17% today

>>2416450
This is an increase of 360 million dollars in value

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>>2416341
Adventurous and bald

>>2416445
>>2416450
I hate it here

>>2416445
Jaguar has been in the shits for a while. But the others are just right wingers overreacting and just choosing how they consooom, it's a threat to nobody.

>>2416445
I don’t know man i still see bud light at the liquor store

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>>2416417
I am literally talking that the ones doing the genocide are the ones that must stop, and that's the US, not zionists, not other Arabs nations.
faggot.
you want to held accountable the Arabs nations as a gotcha for the meme you laughed at, when the US are the ones carrying the genocide in the ME.
absolutely disgusting piece of shit.
protip: one of the Muslim nations that backed up China's security policy, is Indonesia, one of the countries doing the ICJ lawsuit.
but probably that's not enough for you.

>>2416473
Quad status?

>>2416473
sadly, India will not retaliate by shutting down every lust software outsourcing shop

Piggy seethes when teen says fuck the police while driving by. He stops him and his friends then challenges teen to fight him and bullies him for like 15 minutes. Somehow piggy got fired for this

"veterans aren't based"

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>>2416495
trump said in april he doesn't care about going into a recession if that means that tariffs works to liberate america from the debt shackle caused by trade imbalances (absolute moronic interpretation of the situation, but ok), but oh boy, every step down the road with his tariffs shows he cares. either by lifting them, pausing them, of doing massive exemptions. kek.

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Real wage growth is slowing down, MAGA sisters. it is only 8 times faster than biden now
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1Keri#

Last :)

>>2416495
we've been "heading into a recession" for 5 years now, imagine listening to a word that a bourgeois "economist" has to say

The vast majority of US adults are stressed about grocery costs, an AP-NORC poll finds

https://apnews.com/article/poll-cost-living-groceries-expense-stress-worry-cd183c59f034f6e87525675f3ca04864

WASHINGTON, Aug 4 (Reuters) - U.S. states and cities that boycott Israeli companies will be denied federal aid for natural disaster preparedness, the Trump administration has announced, tying routine federal funding to its political stance.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency stated in grant notices posted on Friday that states must follow its "terms and conditions." Those conditions require they certify they will not sever “commercial relations specifically with Israeli companies” to qualify for funding.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-links-19-billion-state-disaster-funds-israel-boycott-stance-2025-08-04/

>>2416518
I mean at what point will these ghouls go too far with this Israel shit? Are we so pathetic as a populace that we could literally cede sovereignty to Israel and we'd just go with it?

>>2416513
why? what's the problem with basic food doubling in cost within 5 years?

>>2416437
it's not just about redistributing the existing wealth of the haute bourgeoisie, it's also about ending a mode of production that has built into it the deliberate destruction of the productive forces and the revolt against the machine. Capitalists are the modern luddites and actually hold back the productive forces because too many productive forces reduces the prices of commodities, especially means of subsistence to near zero. They throw perfectly good food in locked dumpsters. They buy up patents and sit on them.

3:00 onwards is relevant.

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A Miami Twp. man was arrested by FBI agents for allegedly making a racially motivated social media post threatening to kill tens of thousands of people in Cincinnati this weekend.

Scott Michael Hanna, 30, was charged with making an interstate communication with a threat to injure after posting on X, formerly known as Twitter, about organizing mobs to kill ’30k’ by Sunday.

Hanna’s post tagged both Ohio Governor Mike DeWine and the Ohio State Highway Patrol and appears to be about the viral video that showed a large group of people targeting and attacking a couple.

Hanna was accused of saying he was working to organize mobs to kill thousands, according to an FBI spokesperson and federal court documents obtained by News Center 7.

According to federal court documents, police were already familiar with Hanna due to previous incidents at his home on Orchard Run Road. On Sept. 11, 2024, Hanna had called 911 and threatened to kill a woman.

“While (police were) enroute, Hanna called dispatch and requested to speak with a detective and told them if they were not going to charge a specified individual then he was going to cut off her head,” FBI investigators said in federal court documents obtained by News Center 7.

Hanna was accused of using a racial slur towards an officer during his arrest in September, federal investigators said in court documents.



https://www.whio.com/news/local/miami-twp-man-charged-with-threatening-organize-mobs-kill-30000-people-cincinnati/

>>2416535
Also I know what video this guy commented on. It was a video of black guys fighting a white and a white woman got hit.

>>2416535
Like this guy made the equal of /pol/yard TND posting but on his personal account and tagged government officials so now he is facing 5 years in jail

2416539 is bait, don't give it (you)'s

>>2416539
Cheap food makes you fat, retard

>>2416529
>we could literally cede sovereignty to Israel
We are on our way to that it feels like. I know bourgeois law etc., but this shit seems unconstitutional. Again, I'm fully aware these "people" are highly hypocritical and never follow their own laws if it owns da libs and/or workers.

>>2416473
Tim Cook btfo

>>2416478
I'd like the subway to not fall further into disrepair.

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>>2416535
He seems like he wants to be Buffalo Bill.

>>2416547
under capitalism food that cannot be sold for a high price is thrown into a locked dumpster, set on fire, poured down a drain. under socialism production is planned to satisfy the immediate needs of subsistence. starving children in gaza are blockaded while over half the food in america is thrown out by the bourgeoisie on purpose before it even reaches the consumer

>JUST IN - Trump to withhold disaster funding for states and cities who boycott Israel — Reuters

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>>2416550
You forgot to highlight Lithuanian, and Stein's daddy being Porky.

>>2416555
When are states going to unironically leave the union?

>>2416561
nothing ever happens

>>2416555
But I can't say we live under the 3 letter z word 😑

>>2416556
Previously Archived Successful Border Crossings
see txt

>>2416556
Ziggers unironically believe this

>>2416564
Anyone remember the AIPAC level from Hotline Miami

>>2416563
True… 🫩

>>2416539
Cheap snacks are made mostly of sugar and unhealthy trans fats that make you fat. Can you retards go one day without wishing unlimited genocide on people who can’t afford food and calling them treatlerites? Cola, donuts, and chips are not nutritious.

>>2416556
>Incorrect. Under capitalism, all of the food on the earth goes into the ameriKKKan stomach yet they still squeal for more

>>2416518
insanity. the bill also requires cities to work with ICE now

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WE NEED A NEW RECONSTRUCTION

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>>2416575
the only help Americans need is to have external armed support for their national liberation.

>>2416585
glad you agree

>>2416564
For some reason you cannot say that zionists occupy the government, despite overwhelming and undeniable evidence of such.

Trump is getting cooked on xitter for this >>2416555

>>2416550
Rather than simply pointing out that they're both bourgeois, you JQ off instead.

>>2416593
Somehow Israel is a colony of the USA or something

>>2416595
A certain race is clearly overrepresented in the bourgeois group

lol

>>2416595
Who said anything about jews? People are pointing out israeli influence in the goverment.

Why does one country get to conduct genocides not only in gaza, but now in US cities that boycott said gazan genocide?

>>2416594
There's only 13 states without anti-BDS laws. Seems like they should have gone after their state legislators a long time ago if they truly cared about the issue

>>2416598
Zigger soldier you overstepped orders. Meat only diet is where is at. Salad is for them Golden Billion. Await new orders.

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>>2416594
Xitter is not real life. Picrel. There are almost no anti-Israel cons.

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>Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed on Monday evening that a decision has been made for the full occupation of the Gaza Strip, including operations in areas where hostages are held.

>The Prime Minister's Office conveyed the message to the Chief of Staff, Lt.-Gen. Eyal Zamir: "If this does not suit him, you should resign."

>>2416593
>>2416596
>nooo it's zog. US is innocent, it doesn't want imperialism

>>2416609
Where does it say US is innocent you JIDF concern trolling shill?

>>2416615
1. At least spam multiple pictures.
2. You actually have a point but you are undermining it with spam.
3. You're a burger too.

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Thank god i got on the last bus departing the higher education to middle-upper class pipeline. The proles are TRVLY fucked.
I'm going to keep my head down and just collect my STEM bucks, save up money, and get the fuck out while I still can with my degree.

At least we are not speaking Hebrew yet

>>2416607
Wrong. 50% of Republicans under 50 have a negative view of Israel, and I imagine that number is sky-high under 25.

>>2416628
Meh. I'd rather try to become a political elite in the new emerging far right.

>>2416601
more 👏🏻 white 👏🏻 christian 👏🏻 boybosses 👏🏻

>>2416630
it's remarkable that they revived a half-dead liturgical language for common speaking. that would be like if catholics started speaking latin in their daily life for the larp.

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>>2416652
Supporting Ukraine is good because it furthers American global power. Supporting Israel is bad because in the long run it decreases American global power.

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>>2416598
Shut the fuck up cracker and kys

>>2416661
>GOPIsrael
They could have just said GOP and meant the same thing.

>>2416661
yeah its horrible and gives the settlements legitimacy

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lmao wtf is this
>The State Department is proposing requiring applicants for business and tourist visas to post a bond of up to $15,000 to enter the United States, a move that may make the process unaffordable for many.

>In a notice to be published in the Federal Register on Tuesday, the department said it would start a 12-month pilot program under which people from countries deemed to have high overstay rates and deficient internal document security controls could be required to post bonds of $5,000, $10,000 or $15,000 when they apply for a visa.


>The proposal comes as the Trump administration is tightening requirements for visa applicants. Last week, the State Department announced that many visa renewal applicants would have to submit to an additional in-person interview, something that was not required in the past. In addition, the department is proposing that applicants for the Visa Diversity Lottery program have valid passports from their country of citizenship.

https://apnews.com/article/state-department-visa-bond-d532b186abf6e39c621d1bd0995d7509

>>2416681
Literal blackmail money against you.

>>2416681
what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuck

>>2416681
how to guarantee no one ever enters the USA legally ever again

>>2416688
>how to guarantee no one ever enters the USA legally ever again

this is what they want because it will create more jobs for ICE

>>2416530
Karl Marx said proletarians are better off when food prices are high. Context is english corn laws. Solving obesity is calories in calories out. American can effectively raise their own wages and cure themselves of obesity by raising food prices and not eating like fat imperialist pigs. Capitalists depress wages by lowering food prices (english corn law) so low food prices are bad for proletarians.
>So long as the price of corn was higher and wages were also higher, a small saving in the consumption of bread sufficed to procure him other enjoyments. But as soon as bread is very cheap, and wages are therefore very cheap, he can save almost nothing on bread for the purchase of other articles.

The Department of Homeland Security is looking to boost its deployment of the military on the streets of the U.S. in order to help carry out Donald Trump’s immigration policies, according to a leaked memo written by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s brother.

The document, obtained by The New Republic, details plans for how the Trump administration could use the military to assist with domestic law enforcement as part of its mass deportation agenda for “years” to come.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/leaked-memo-from-pete-hegseths-brother-reveals-plot-to-ramp-up-military-use-in-the-us/

>>2416704
And by "immigration policies" they mean rounding up dissidents for the concentration camps. Shit's bleak, we basically have martial law in all but name at this point

>>2416703
ok when are the wages going to increase

>>2416436
Her head game must be life changing

>>2416704
They must be expecting the economy to really crash hard soon.

>>2416623
>>2416622
>>2416618
>>2416615
>>2416610
>>2416611


this sort of shit is what happens when you tolerate far rightist posters like CPUSAnon here tbh. they come in droves and the only way to counteract them is to have a zero tolerance policy for fascists.

>>2416681
lmao let's just crush any tourism to this country, as if getting a visa wasn't hard as fuck in of itself in the first place. I just hope these fucks don't make the K1-visa more difficult than it already is or I will have to move to latin america to live with my fiance (which might be better but RIP career and finances)

>>2416704
fucking stupid but they already deployed marines and national guard so it's not like much more will change. Fuck this fascist country tho

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here's how bernie can still win

>>2416601
We already know about the Hibernian menace, anon.

>>2416681
based, fuck turistoids

>>2416704
why is the brother of an afficial involved in policy to begin with

>>2416825
My tourist reliant city is already feeling the hit from intra and international tourism slumping, yet the city government is still trying to push through bonds for another sports stadium as one of the previous stadiums sits in the urban decay it promised to alleviate.

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Marjorie Taylor Greene says Republican party has lost touch with its base
Georgia congresswoman says she has no plans to leave Republican fold but urges party to support ‘America first’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/04/marjorie-taylor-greene-republican-party

Speaker Johnson Calls Illegally Occupied West Bank 'Integral Part' of Israel
"International law is completely unambiguous on this question," said one critic. "What settlers call 'Judea and Samaria' is the legal property of the Palestinians—Israel has zero legal claim to the land."


https://www.commondreams.org/news/mike-johnson-west-bank

>>2416823
For what it's worth, I've never seen CPUSAnon spam gore or pretend to be Jewish.


>>2416861
>America first
>looks inside
>bipartisan foreign policy since WW2

>>2416861
American firsters are on the rise. the whole restricting disaster aid if states boycott israel thing is blowing up in right wing circles right now

>>2416870
please sack all the competent people
please please please

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>>2416879
>American firsters on the rise
so true firstersister

>>2416823
Also, these guys are able to post here because the tor node exists: The same reason you're able to post here. The real problem is that imageboards are inherently plagued with this kind of nonsense due to their dedication to anonymity and free speech. I'd say look at places like lemmygrad and hexbear. They're way better moderated but people here hate that because it's "reddit like"

>>2416896
fuck off back to your reddit clones if you don't like it here then. hexbear and lemmygrad are uber cringe jesus christ

>>2416887
the conditions of the 1920's are a little different from the conditions of today my friend

>>2416900
No need to get so defensive. I just said what the limitations of the medium are. I like different online spaces for different reasons but I'm also able to recognizes their weaknesses. I like leftypol for FWIW. I think imageboard people in general are kind of mentally ill. They'll sit on a high horse in a place spammed with a gore and CP and act like they're superior to normies for it lol

>>2416823
CPUSAnon, quasi-namefagging being cringe aside, is a good poster that is actually able to discuss things like an adult even when you disagree with him. you act like a maladjusted freak and shit up any decent thread. i hate to even talk about /leftypol/ posters as these microest of microcelebrity personalities but as far as thats the case here, this site would at the very least not worse off with 10 more of CPUSAnon, compared to you alone actively shitting up threads and driving down quality

President Donald Trump’s eldest sons are involved in a new business venture aimed partly at “revitalizing American manufacturing” as their father pursues protectionist economic policies with the same goal.

New America Acquisition I Corp, a blank-check firm backed by Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr., on Aug. 4 filed for an initial public offering of up to $300 million.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/08/04/donald-trump-jr-eric-trump-manufacturing-spac-crypto/85510237007/

>>2416903
>the conditions of the 1920's are a little different from the conditions of today my friend
the conditions are different but America First remains the reactionary slogan of the braindead national chauvinist. Any anti imperialism on their part is accidental and temporary. if they had any idea for example that getting rid of USAID kills US hegemony they wouldn't advocate for it. They advocate killing USAID because they think the world leeches off the American bourgeoisie and imperialist govt. rather than the other way around. It's "based retard" shit at best and will very quickly morph into a movement to purge any and all internal dissent against America's worst and most reactionary tendencies the moment it gets the chance. Hence the emphasis on revisionist patriotic education, building more prisons, etc.

>>2416913
>job creators taking on risk
thank you sirs! thank you!


What is with the recent nick fuentes thread here? Seems kind of phony to me.

>>2416931
he's popular because he's trying to grift all the dissident tendencies simultaneously:

1. Christians mad at secular liberal society
2. Marxists mad at dehumanizing capitalist society
3. JQers mad at le ZOG
4. Anti-genocide protesters mad at Israel

Fuentes is basically saying all these groups should team up against the government and worry about each other later on.

Of course he is much more aligned with 1 and 3 than he is with 2 and 4.

>>2416930
that's a great tiktok

>>2416930
it is eerie (but not surprising) how fucking fast that shooting got memory holed

Rep. Burgess Owens, who filed bankruptcy 5 times, tells struggling student borrowers to get a second job
Utah Republican also falsely claims foreign countries pay for tariffs


https://www.utahpoliticalwatch.news/rep-burgess-owens-who-filed-bankruptcy-5-times-tells-struggling-student-borrowers-to-get-a-second-job/

>>2416930
Thank you Petah
Thank you Stewie

lol

>>2416911
anyone who tolerates fascists is a fascist themselves.

it's pretty telling that you'd rather have 10 more admitted national socialists than one marxist-leninist.

>>2416930
based petar

>>2416935
I think that some discord of theirs is shitting up both /pol/ and leftypol about his beef with tucker carlson.

>>2416930
fasteriskkicking

>>2416823
These guys are soyteens they are not related to him in any way.
>>2416911
Correct.
I often disagree with him too and he's a bit full of himself but he's also one the good poster on the site.

>>2416921
people like MTG are starting to realize Trump is actually in the neocon camp and not the American First camp

Why aren’t we talking more about the BlackRock CEO that got clapped? She’s a very high level porky.

>>2416959
MTG just wants to turn Mexico into Libya

>>2416960
cuz the guy was actually there to shoot nfl executives and got lost lol

>>2416963
You really believe any narrative they cook up, huh?


>>2416960
It's a shame he didn't bag more of them.

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>>2416952
>>2416930
>>2416960

someone tried to tell you that shooting was both based and exactly what the left should be doing and you all treated them like they're crazy.

>>2416963

oh no he wasn't there to shoot THIS evil billionaire, but rather the evil billionaires who operate the gambling mafia that runs on irreparable brain trauma.

based is based is based.

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>>2416959
>Neocon and America First are le different
Did you think "America Last" was the ideology behind fighting communism, stealing oil, and plundering the world? There is a revisionist attempt to pretend that the new national chauvinism is somehow separate from the old national chauvinism, that we bombed children in Vietnam for Israel instead of for ourselves. It's so pathetic. Conservatives will never be outsiders. by definition they are people dedicated to preserving the system which is capitalist and imperialist. Why did it take retards like MTG (who is very wealthy compared to the average person) 10 years to "realize" that a literal billionaire real estate tycoon from new york wasn't in fact an "outsider". These people replaced "the crooked politicians" with the very same people bribing them. They cut out the middleman and called it a revolution. Now they wanna sit here and play dumb and go "wooooooah I thought we were doing america first woaaaaaah woaaaaah i was bamboozled woaaaaaaah, give us more power and we'll do it right this time"

>>2416963
it doesn't add up

the shooter merk'd the security guards but then spared a woman and let her out of the elevator so he wasn't on some random spree. It's pretty clear he was targeting the Blackstone (not blackrock) CEO and the NFL thing is an obvious red herring

Also of suspicion is how these mass shooter always have hazy histories, e.g. the Butler PA Trump shooter. You're telling me that it's just a coincidence that the narrative of these shooters are always cloudy and seem to serve a certain bourgeois narrative?

>>2416972
I just want white nationalist antisemitic imperialists to run the country instead of liberal anti-racist imperialists.

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>>2416971
>oh no he wasn't there to shoot THIS evil billionaire, but rather the evil billionaires who operate the gambling mafia that runs on irreparable brain trauma.
>based is based is based.
THIS tbh

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>>2416977
well at least you're honest like the wolf instead of sly like the fox

About 3,200 union members at Boeing facilities in Missouri and Illinois went on strike at midnight on Monday after rejecting an contract offer from the company, the union said.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/3200-boeing-jet-weapons-workers-begin-strike/story?id=124335909

>>2416974
>>2416967
>>2416966
It's really not that far fetched to say he was after the NFL and just decided to cut his losses. Professional football is an extremely exploitive industry and kids who are pressured to get into football at an early age due to it being seen as a ticket out of poverty are liable to suffering severe head injuries that can have long term effects on memory and mental health. To give you an idea, the average amount of G forces an astronaut feels when blasting off from earth is 5 or 6. The average amount of G forces in the instant you get slammed by a professional football player is like 180. This shit destroys bodies and minds

>>2416972
>revisionist attempt to pretend that the new national chauvinism is somehow separate from the old national chauvinism
it's not the same because global conditions aren't the same. we live in a multipolar world where America is turning away from free trade. you would be a fool to believe America is immune to the process of change

>>2416983
Delusional quote

>>2416989
I wasn't disputing that the world is changing, I was disputing that conservative national chauvinism is changing. America First remains the slogan of the people protecting the dying bourgeois regime from revolution. This is not an anti capitalist slogan it is a slogan professing loyalty to the American genocidal bourgeois dictatorship against a world that is quickly overthrowing it. It is exactly like saying "Britain First" on the eve of WW1.

>>2416988
Yeah he totally wanted to ice some NFL guys, which is why he showed up late after business hours when the NFL was long gone. A guy who did that much methodical planning would definitely forget step 0: show up at the right standard business hours that 99.9% of the office worker class is present

>>2416991
Why and how is he wrong

>>2417001
White liberals want patronage networks to funnel white money into the hands of minorities. They're not racist.

>>2416971
the kind of porky he shot happens to be all over the financial district of Manhattan. if that's who he was targeting it would be more obvious imo

honkoid status?

>>2417006
read losurdo lib

>>2416999
You can be rational about some shit and dumb about other shit, especially if you literally have brain damage from CTE

>>2417016
you dropped your fed flag, bro

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Medvedev knows about the piss tape

>>2417018
release the piss tape coward

>>2417016
Proof that he had a CTE and the media didn't just fabricate it out of thin air?

>>2417017
i mean it's literally besides the point. NFL CEOs are leeches too.

>>2416998
this sort of thinking implies the republicans of today are acting in the interests of conservative base as it did back then. endorsing the KKK certainly helped win support with the republican base because they were white and racist, so how does the conservative base of today benefit from the Trump supporting israel?

>>2417018
>MAD but instead of nuclear hellfire it's played with pedo child rape tapes
bro let me out of this timeline

>>2417017
Why would that be a fed thing? Regardless of whether he planned to merc the NFL or Blackrock from the start it would still be a good thing

Multiple medical groups say they have been barred from work on CDC's panel of vaccine advisers

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/multiple-medical-groups-barred-work-cdcs-panel-vaccine/story?id=124292319

New Housing Slows Rent Growth Most for Older, More Affordable Units
Data shows that limited supply is associated with greatest rent increases in low-income neighborhoods

https://www.pew.org/en/research-and-analysis/articles/2025/07/31/new-housing-slows-rent-growth-most-for-older-more-affordable-units?utm_campaign=pewtrusts&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

>>2417023
What is this, some kind of The Fire Rises?

Abundance for the 99 Percent

Abundance is the precondition of socialism, but socialism is also the precondition of abundance.

https://jacobin.com/2025/08/klein-thompson-abundance-liberalism-socialism

>>2417014
Yeah I'll read a 400 page book and formulate a response in 5 minutes, that's totally practical. Shoving a book in my face is not an argument. Make your own fucking argument pussy.
>lib
I'm a nationalist.

>>2417021
sure but the narrative went from fighting against housing crisis leeches to a mentally ill dude who thinks he was in the NFL. Stop spreading CIA propaganda

>>2417025
you're spreading CIA propaganda retard. You think the news story being memory holed is some sort of coincidence? It's fucking obvious that porky and glowy didn't want a Luigi copycat

>>2417031
>wah wah don't make read!

opinion discarded

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>>2416974
all NFL executives should be shot, too. the NFL is a mafia that turns brain trauma and gambling debt into profit.


>>2417007
i don't really care who he was targeting, the people he shot all deserved it.

>>2417033
You've read the book right, you should be able to synthesize the relevant ideas in the book and explain them to me here exactly where it's relevant. I can't read a 400 page book in 3 minutes dude.

>>2417032
Yeah because someone determined to shoot a CEO would stop after reading a headline about a guy suffering CTE killing someone

>>2417035
I'm not defending the fucking NFL man, just pointing out that you're all falling for a psyop intended to memory hole the story.

Also the security guards didn't deserve their death you fucking child

>>2417036
I wasn't whom you were replying to but complaining about reading is midwit shit

>>2417037
The narrative was crafted to distract from the story and memory hole the incident. How you fucks can't see this is mind boggling

>>2416681
does apply to every state? I am sure many states won't like this.

>>2417038
Memory hole the incident where we all know someone killed a Blackrock CEO and are celebrating that? Seems like there would be more effective ways to do it

>>2417038
>complaining about reading is midwit shit
I'm not complaining about that. I'm complaining that I made a critique and instead of responding he just shoved a pdf of some book in my face. That's not an argument, and that's not the purpose of reading.

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>>2417031
he didn't ask you to read and formulate an answer after 5 minutes. reactoid bug. and yes, read Losurdo.
and yes, you are lib.
to say libs aren't racist is to be a lib.

>>2417041
(1) It was BlackStone not blackrock

(2) I'm talking about the general public here. People are still talking about Luigi, whereas this dude got memory holed. Discussion on this random obscure forum doesn't count

>>2417042
read more uygha and then you won't get caught off guard

>>2417038

>Also the security guards didn't deserve their death you fucking child



private pigs are still pigs.

>>2417046
I guess all proletarians are "pigs" for working for the bourgeoisie and we should just kill everybody then

retard

>>2417040
Seems like it. tourism is already down across the board, Las Vegas saw a 11% drop since january lol. its fucking empty

>>2417044
>>2417045
Right wing people will NEVER refuse to formulate an argument like this. I can only imagine that you've been owned and so your only response is to send me a book that you and I both know I will never read. So I'm gonna ask it again. How exactly are white liberals as racist as white nationalists?

>>2417031
>I'm a nationalist.
>implying those are mutually exclusive
Liberals invented nationalism lmao.

>>2417049
Speaking of Vegas apparently most of the casinos on the strip have voted to unionize. The People's Gambling?


>>2417054
I'm a liberal in some sense. I like republicanism, free speech, and some level of free markets. But I'm not a liberal in the modern usage. I'm not very well-acquainted with leftist spaces so I don't know how the word is used here.

>>2417058
>I'm a liberal

uh mods?

>>2417048
pigs aren't proletarian.

>>2417060
>Reactionism and liberalism, or any other kind of non-leftist positions are not banned in itself
I read this in the rules, is this not how the site operates?

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>>2417043
Is this the moment the Russian bourgeoisie finally snaps back to reality and realizes that the Western bourgies are not their friends and this causes a rapid acceleration of history?

>>2417051
>How exactly are white liberals as racist as white nationalists
by being part of the same structural system they control under the demokkkratic party.
you seem to be a newfagfriend, even for USApol standards. the fact that don't know that:
a) the democratic party in the south was main political force against Lincoln
b) Still today repeat the mantra about immigration stealing jobs (to the point John Stewart did a complete skit on demokkkrappers doing the same punchline that rethuglancs do, the same way the republican party) which is racist on itself.
c) that it was under a demokkkrap president, "black American" with a "black American" General Attorney both liberals, that stop and frisk, bussing and other police tactics applied to black Americans skyrocketed to alarming levels.
shows me you are:
Not American.
A new arrival.
Lurk moar, before making fool out of yourself saying
>libs aren't racists.

>>2417051
>>2417071 (me)
and yes, read the fucking book. Losurdo is insanely based.

>>2417046
honestly I expected him to mention the receptionist, not the off-duty pig

>>2417067
No. Bourgeoise are notoriously stupid.

>>2417071
>by being part of the same structural system
Because the system shares some accidents with a previous racist system that means that it's racist? Ridiculous
>the democratic party in the south was main political force against Lincoln
150 years ago maybe
>Still today repeat the mantra about immigration stealing jobs
Okay but that's just true though lol.
Let me make it simple for you. Liberals support affirmative action, and support a tax system that (objectively) takes from whites and gives money to minorities. "Police tactics" or whatever are fringe policies in most people's daily life experience.
>Not American
I am American, I'm just right wing.

>>2417065
Trump is getting cooked on this. 8 million views in 4 hours is a ton for xitter

>>2417079
Go back to europe

>>2417065
Pissrael first!


> "Police tactics" or whatever are fringe policies in most people's daily life experience.

>le this fringe

absolutely stupid. the whole American culture is based on joking about how horrible, dangerous even, is for black Americans to interact with the police. the US has the largest NET and % to population rate of incarcerated people on earth
and this is "fringe".
gee no wonder no one takes these >>2417079 people seriously.

>>2417081
Never use the internet, planes, or electricity again then.

>>2417084
>the US has the largest NET and % to population rate of incarcerated people on earth
You're not gonna like my answer so I don't think I'll even say it.

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More Blewish billionaires!

>>2417032
>sure but the narrative went from fighting against housing crisis leeches to a mentally ill dude who thinks he was in the NFL. Stop spreading CIA propaganda

1. I wasn't the same anon saying he was targeting the NFL CEOs

2. I'm saying if he was that's fine too

3. the NFL narrative is that he was bitter at the NFL for perpetuating and profiting from CTE brain damage in young men, not that he literally imagined he was in the NFL

>>2417079
Liberals support the Black bourgeoisie. Liberals do not support the Black worker. It's the same thing for them taking all the other marginalized workers as pets.

>>2417085
never bathe again

>>2416991
it's not delusional in Malcolm X's experience at all, where he witnessed white liberals try to steer the civil rights movement into dead-end pacifism and bourgeois tailism.

>>2417092
Then why do they funnel money into poor black neighborhoods?

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Alex Karp, Palantir letter to shareholders 8-4-25

>"All the value in the market is going to go to chips and what we call ontology."


>"The reasons for our increasingly precipitous rise are many.


>"But principal among them is our willingness to foster an unapologetically specific culture within this artist colony of a company—to allow for plenty of friction and disagreement across a range of domains yet remain unwaveringly committed to a set of values and an approach to building.


>"It is this culture that gave rise to the Ontology, Forward Deployed Engineers, Foundry, and Maven Smart System—all of which have already changed the course of human history. Terms and titles that we casually coined decades ago are now widespread; some have even been adopted by companies which seek to mimic our impact and ascent.


>"Similarly, in the United States, the most consequential country in the West, it is the culture that enables companies like ours to come into existence—and excel. It must be protected."

>>2417095
And the white liberals won

>>2417096
to generate more big black cock by enlarging the black penis

>>2417055
> The People's Gambling?
under socialism casinos will be museums of historical capitalist decadence. in the museum you will be able to play the games, but it won't be for real money. however you will get assigned fake money in order to show you the horrors of gambling addiction. Also there will be back rooms to simulate mobsters torturing cheaters, real or imagined.

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>>2417087
you can't counter the argument, libs are racist. most of those people under the prison system (jails, penitentiaries) are from poor black and brown communities, despite whites that whites get twice as much arrested cases as blacks.
this is 100% racism, and Obunga and his AG, both liberals, perpetuated this.

>>2417103
kekeekeke

>>2417088
>despite whites that whites get twice as much arrested cases as blacks
First off, learn English. Secondly, maybe Whites just commit more misdemeanors and blacks commit more felonies? Disparate outcomes don't necessarily imply discrimination. Why do poor Whites score higher on standardized tests than rich blacks?

>>2417105
Honestly if casinos are still going to be used under a socialist and/or anarchist territory then they're going to have to be heavily remodeled. As they are right now, casinos in Vegas especially are confusing labyrinths which lack windows or accurate directions in favor of stuffing it full of panhandlers. The architecture within is worth preserving for some of them at least, but that shit can serve any number of purposes.

Really the question of what to do with Las Vegas is a fun hypothetical problem for communists that serves as a template for other urban areas with large service industries

>>2417111
who cares about I.Q.?

>>2417117
Who doesn't?

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There are so many catalysts for Civil War 2 going on all at once

>>2417115
gambling isn't proletarian and anyone advocating that gambling will be allowed under communism is a fed or a retard or both

>>2417122
They did this same stunt just a few years ago.

>>2417122
its symbolic, the warrants jursidiction is only for texas

>>2417022
I said America First is the slogan of nationalist chauvinism which is compatible with the larger project of American imperialism, not necessarily neocon zionism specifically. It is the slogan of plundering the world and stealing the oil and of purging the leftists. You go "oohhh but israel doesn't benefit us" even if that were true America First only deviates from the neocon consensus on the issue of Israel and nothing else. They still hate China for example and want to coup Latin American countries. To the extent that it is "isolationist" it is only to recoup lost internal stability to better wage future imperialism, not to put an end to the empire itself. The empire wants to withdraw into its shell so it can heal, not so it can stop terrorizing the world forever. You confuse the opportunist national chauvinist self-imposed isolationism of the MTGs and Fuenteses of the right with the capitalist-imposed isolation of a country like Cuba or a North Korea.

>>2417111
as a L2 writer, who rarely relies on grammar tools, suck my dick.
>Secondly, maybe Whites just commit more misdemeanors
>maybe
>it come to me in a dream.

>>2417129
I'm not saying that is the reason, just saying it's a potential explanation. You can't jump immediately to discrimination without first debunking other causative factors.

>>2417124
We're not going to do "real" gambling. If anything it would vastly benefit from turning most of the slot machines into some of those retro arcades and putting the rest in some kind of museum. Poker and other card games can just be done for fun

1945

>>2417111
I'm mixed race so I kneel to your superior misdemeanor massa. I will always see myself as inferior in matters of Eye Queue to you but superior to the darker blacks.

is this what you wanted to hear you braindead /pol/ack?

>>2417142
>I'm mixed race
Opinion discarded

>>2417124
>>2417131
Gambling isn't prole but re-appropriating wealth is. Leftist should find a reliable way to do so. I found out recently I can follow trades congress members make. I plan on doing so when I earn a little more money soon. Hope it works.

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>>2417130
and you are still wrong as picture shows, because fucking whites commit more misdemeanors and felonies in % terms compared to the other groups, and yet it's the other groups that overwhelmingly populate prisons. it's the fucked up system which keep targeting blacks and browns, with attorneys, police officers, and judges actively prosecuting the black and brown communities over the white community.
you prefer to run to say that liberals aren't racist, because some "muh liberals give money to black communities" (no evidence provided), you refuse to fucking read a book, and what's the result? you prefer to talk shit, without evidence, on stuff we know much better than you do, to prove that you are also racist, and also a fucking ignorant.
ffs, try again when you humble yourself.

>>2417096
to gentrify them. what are you, stupid?

>>2417144
What brings you here today, 4klanner?

>>2417111
Chimpout harder forest uyghur.

>>2417124
Are you going to beat the shit out of children playing jacks or marbles?

>>2417151
>muh liberals give money to black communities" (no evidence provided),
The fucking government is the evidence
>to prove that you are also racist
Well I could have told you that at the beginning lol. Your own data doesn't even back you up by the way. Whites are overrepresented in misdemeanors and underrepresented in violent crime as per your data. The black violent arrest rate is only 3 points away from the incarceration rate, and a three times overrepresentation of their population.

>>2417154
Couldn't find anywhere else to debate leftists and liberals honestly.

>>2417153
They take money from whites, give it to blacks, and this is for the benefit of white people? Ridiculous.

>>2417159
>and liberals honestly.
just talk with other 4 channers, you guys are liberals.

>>2417159
>debate.
you're not interested in "debate" if you dismiss someone's opinion on the basis of their race. And that's good. Why should I debate someone John Brown would have shot?

>>2417163
That was a response to a non-argument post lol

>>2417158
>The fucking government is the evidence
the government promoting austerity every week for the past 60 years ?.

>>2417162
Yes, 4channers agree with me for the most part lol.

>>2417018
>Medvedev knows about the piss tape
Oh so now Russiagate is real? Pfeh. He's bluffing. A lot of bluff and bluster over there. Nixon was right about them. Dmitry Anatolyevich needs to dance to that Hardcore American Cowboy song imo

>>2416972
>There is a revisionist attempt to pretend that the new national chauvinism is somehow separate from the old national chauvinism, that we bombed children in Vietnam for Israel instead of for ourselves. It's so pathetic … Why did it take retards like MTG (who is very wealthy compared to the average person) 10 years to "realize" that a literal billionaire real estate tycoon from new york wasn't in fact an "outsider". These people replaced "the crooked politicians" with the very same people bribing them.
People have psyopped themselves into thinking the Obama-era liberalism which put everybody to sleep is the normal operating mode for capitalism and that Trump's version of it is anomalous, when most of his supporters actually see him as like mechareagan. Or maybe mechabrandon.

>>2417168
Blacks receive more in welfare per capita than whites do. Blacks pay less in taxes per capita than whites. It's that simple.
>austerity
lol

>>2417170
because liberals agree everything the right wing does.

>>2417166
you're not here to debate you're here to provoke and whine and dismiss educated answers that are given to you.

>>2417172
Based Blacks gamed the system

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Bolsonaro was imprisoned

>>2417018
>>2417171
I still dont understand how anything about Epstein that applies to Trump is kompromat. Nikkuh has all the power on earth and literally has immunity. Fires people whenever and puts MFs in literal camps. If I was Trump I'd straight up start telling MFs release your tapes/files IDGAF.

>>2417175
Wow the left really hates discourse lol. I've been much better faith than I could've been and you still melt down when even talking to a right winger. I'm fine to admit that I just want what's best for my group, and that my beliefs contradict with leftist interests, but offering pushback is not "dismissing educated answers". Discourse really is dead.
>>2417176
lol

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>>2417172
>Blacks receive more in welfare per capita than whites do. Blacks pay less in taxes per capita than whites. It's that simple.
let's put you in chains for 3 centuries, lynch and segregate you for another century after that, then subjugate you to police brutality from the surveillance state, then throw some pennies at you and tell you to be grateful. I'm sure you'll be very appreciative.

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>>2416823
Another day, another Iron Felix freakout. CPUSAnon in every post I've seen of them is like 95% reasonable with the other 5% being due to their understandable frustration with idpol and how it's been metabolized by certain sections of the American left. This is in sharp contrast to you, who I have only seen being a raging shitheel to anyone you disagree or take issue with. Do us all a favor and either shut up or fuck off.

>>2417180
they should execute him

isnt it funny how liberal germany is ashamed of its nazi past (holocaust) but yet is supporting israel (who is commiting genocide)
How ironic

>>2417183
Why do rich blacks score lower on standardized tests than poor whites?

>>2417180
they should deep fry him

>>2417172
>Blacks receive more in welfare per capita than whites do. Blacks pay less in taxes per capita than whites. It's that simple.
blacks also have proportionaly less income than whites and live on poorer, cheaper neighbourhoods, that's why they resceive welfare more than whites because they need it more.
> le austerity
cutting welfare funds only damages poorer people, blacks are poorer so they feel more from it simple as.

>>2417189
Cos they are based

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>>2417182
Nothing less than total acquiescence to your supremacist ideology will satisfy you. You're here for a free handjob. Fuck off.

>>2417189
they reserve that area of their brain for dancing good and jumping high

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>>2417158
>The fucking government is the evidence
t. no evidence.
I concede you are a moron.
>your own data doesn't even back you up by the way
t. I don't know how to read data.
the "underrepresented" numbers are a fraction compared on how underrepresented blacks are in the prison system. see? you conveniently look up for data irregularities when it suits you, but not when it goes against the narrative that indoctrinated you. compare the abs[61.6 (white ppl)-59.1 (violent crimes)]=2.5% "underepresented" you have with abs[12.4%(black population)-41.0%(in prison)]= 28.6%
gently, insert yourself a knife in your butt. moron.

>>2417189
which rich ?, musicians, sportsman and actors are retards that don't even go to school.

>>2417189
why does you want me to be concerned about black people on welfare when the government takes all my money and uses it to genocide palestinians and create so much resentment in the third world that they all grow up chanting death to amerikkka?

Are we seriously going to do another one of these stupid pointless debates that this board has been doing in the like ~10 years I've been on here? That's why we have the autism score filter, because this is a standard bait they throw out you retards can't pass up.

>>2417203
That shill has been posting for atleast 3 hours now, thats the OP they created >>2416645

You can scroll through the thread and see him get more and more mask off until the final stage of the spergout is achieved

>>2416823
Do the international revolution a favour by killing yourself for crime of being Amerikkkan

>>2417203
because baiting retards is a board tradition.

>>2417122
They don't have any jurisdiction to arrest Democraps in other states. This is bread and circus

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>>2417184
If you think that literal National Socialism is "95% reasonable" then the problem is with you.

>>2417212
In theory yeah but considering this is the Trump administration we're talking about we just might get some really funny shit

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I don't want to get in the debate. But it's really funny to me that Whites are so obsessed with a statistic that says they're simply mediocre. According to their stats there is a 3+ as large gap between China and Sweden than Sweden and Bangladesh.

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>>2417214
fuck you

>>2417217
so the us is the second smartest non asian country after australia? lol

>>2417224
oh wait you cut out a bunch of shit i'm retarded

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>>2417224
I didn't put the full list. And as always who knows where this stupid global compiled autism score s comes from. To my knowledge there is no global autism score testing org making these stats for every country.

https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/average-autism score-by-country-2025-update/


>>2417224
keep in mind western "white" countries have been brain draining the global south for a good century now

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>>2417160
>the blacks and browns
shoots up TOP supermarket
>should be
''shoots up uvalde elementary
>grateful
bombs the entire third world
>that
uses USAID as a trojan horse for CIA coups
>I give them
lynches a teenager
>so much
uses eminent domain to build a freeway through a black majorit neighborhood
>of my money

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it sjoever

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>>2417217
led paint generation babbyyyyy

>>2417184
Incorrect. Every single CPUSA anon post is far from reason but an imperialist pig squealing.

Literally everyone you meet now in this shithole empire is an insane sociopath

>>2417238
The Civ 5 India war theme makes this even better

>>2417018
>piss tape
Let's be real, there's no Trump piss tape. Trump child rape tape, on the other hand…

>>2417217
It always amazes me how right-wingers deny cold hard science like climate changes, evolution, vacciones but treat pop psych bullshit like autism score as the gospel.

>>2417251
not necessarily mutually exclusive subject matters to be on the tape

>>2417252
right-wingers are predominantly focused on what makes them look and/or feel good even at the expense of everything else

>>2416823
You mean the most obvious trolling the website has ever seen?

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>>2417267
It's not trolling, goycattle. I fully intend to starve and slaughter every single child in Gaza and you, the fattest, most well armed population in human history, will continue to give me all your money so that I can do so with impunity, all while crying about "ZOG ZOG ZOG". Yes, you do have a ZOG. And you won't do shit about it. I won. I objectively won. Kneel to the KeichReich, goycattle. You are never getting Hitler back, but you can have dead palestinian children as a gift.

>>2417088
>pan-black americanism
>pre colonial american
Terminal


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>>2417088
>Alex Karp

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>>2417184
>CPUSAnon in every post I've seen of them is like 95% reasonable with the other 5% being due to their understandable frustration with idpol and how it's been metabolized by certain sections of the American left.
Way back in the day, Agent Felix and all the "Read Settlers" types would have been banned for shitting up the board. The shit they promote is literally everything Leftypol was founded to oppose.
>>2417191
It's very telling how /pol/yps start out with this "We're ackshyully on the same side" bullshit and end up spouting literal Bell Curve talking points.
>>2417201
>why does you want me to be concerned about black people on welfare when the government takes all my money and uses it to genocide palestinians and create so much resentment in the third world that they all grow up chanting death to amerikkka?
They believe that the only legitimate use of government is incarcerating and killing the poor, so they don't have a problem with that.

>>2417281
>"israel? They're ok I guess…"
>"Take him out."

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>>2417055
>most othe casinos on the strip have voted to unionize. The People's Gambling?

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Mark Levin said that almost 1,000 IDF troops dying is equivalent to the deaths of the “tens of thousands” of American soldiers.

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>ITS NOT TRUE… OK IT IS TRUE

>>2417297
the replies are great. everyone is so pissed

>>2417294
>>2417297
I wonder how the Trump cult will deal with this after their recent pedophile scandale

>>2417297
>>2417300
>>2417299
Trump got so much backlash that the edited it lol

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>>2417283
I have never told anyone to read J. Edgar SaKKKai or any other anarKKKist works. What I want you to read is LENIN. Particularly State and Revolution, where he tells you exactly what to do and how to do it.

If you do not support the smashing of the state by the armed body of the proletariat you are NOT A COMMUNIST. Simple as.

>>2417309
You're a westoid amerikkkan liberal. Kys.

>>2417297
Is this the shit that will collapse his approval ratings with the GOP?

>>2417319
No. Nothing will.

>>2417322
I'd figure that telling rightiods that they cant' be racist is going to be the thing that could do him in. They didn't accept his pro-vaccine speech in 2020 after all.

>>2417319
No but pretty much everybody that isn't his base have turned their backs on him

The Texas House has approved arrest warrants for the absent Democrats lmao

A C C E L E R A T E

>>2417333
Nah, nothing ever happens.

You ever wonder if the people in power arent smart 4d chess players but are stupid too. That porkie is stuck in a capital cage image was right

>>2417336
Using money to solve every issue makes you stupid, it rots your brain the same way using ChatGPT for every question also does

>>2416518
Aint dying for israel? spoke to soon, normie americans!

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>>2417182
What is your thesis fren?

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>>2417336
the problem is there's not that much unity between porkies, if one of them starts being long term and planning a better future and not focussing on maximum profit then everyone else will just take his shit.

>>2417337
the rags to riches ones were probably smart because they had to go from rags to riches. That takes brains.
The generations after that….not so much

>>2416518
When the chink paratroopers land, I will help them. Fuck it. I will not only help them, I will fucking volunteer in the chinese army to shoot that goycattle orange gorilla and his stupid fucking followers and every employee of the fucking ADL, AIPAC and Kayakel embassy. I voted for that orange bitch thinking he was somewhat better, but no. Fuck me. Im a stupid uyghur. I am ready to pay for my mistake in blood. You know what commies? Fuck it. One struggle. If that shitstain of a country in the middle east gets its way, we are next. We are all doomed. That is why I will help chinese commies defeat the washington faggot golem. Freedom or death. And I will die fighting against this travesty of a country if I have to. We no longer deserve to be called americans. I once doubted commies because the golem killed people over there, but I was wrong. I now see the golem will kill the people over here for the sake of the shitstein tribe and the plutocrats.
>tldr you commies were right and I will support you

>>2417344
prisoners dillema

>>2417333
>failed to reach quorum
>therefore can't proceed due to absentees
>issued symbolic warrants to fetch them
>warrants don't apply outside of state lines
>will not be charged with civil or criminal suits if arrested

Somethingburger but not THAT big of a deal

>>2417346
Anyone remember the AIPAC level from Hotline Miami

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>>2417300
>I wonder how the Trump cult will deal with this after their recent pedophile scandale
They're going to say that it's actually 99D chess with the Deep State and their Reptilian masters to distract them while Trump and Vice-President JFK Jr. (Who took over the identity of J.D. Vance, who was secretly executed by Space Force SEALs in 2019) are busy preparing to make the EBS annoucement about the beginning of the Ten Days of Darkness and the televised tribunals and executions of prominent Democrats.

>>2417297
Federal disaster funding is actually a scam that all goes to businesses

>>2417353
wow just like USAID

>>2417319
>Is this the shit that will collapse his approval ratings with the GOP?
more?

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>>2417352
This is just q anon posting

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>>2417352
>99D chess
the 99 Ds are pure delusion and dementia.

>>2417333
No big deal. The arrest if that judge not long ago was more scandalous than some symbolic pointless so called arrest of house democrats.

>>2417018
Pure bluffing. Putler is a bitch and so is his entire administration. That motherfucker should’ve been taken out for the coward he is.

>>2417352
Maybe the funniest part of the Q schizophrenia is this imagined idea that once martial law is declared and literally all functions of civilized society shut down, their kids are gonna be crawling back all “we’re sorry, enlighten us gram gram!” Or, yknow, just accept “Oh yeah Hillary ate a baby and Trump’s gonna execute her right now.”

Like if martial law is declared cause of Q conspiracies, people are just gonna riot. No one is gonna sit down and say “I guess they were really right”, which is all they really want.

>>2417348
They did this exact same thing like 2-3 years ago. Everything in your green text is exactly what happened the last time they did this stunt.

>>2417392
>Or, yknow, just accept “Oh yeah Hillary ate a baby and Trump’s gonna execute her right now.”
I know a couple that wears MAGA merch regularly and believes Hillary eats babies. They have a whole story that someone they knew (or someone they knew who knew this person) worked in Washington and met her and saw literal demons come out of her ears and fly away. I'm not making this up. They believe that the libs are a Satanic cabal who practice sorcery.

I'm just, like, wow that's crazy. Tell me more.

The husband was a Huey pilot in Vietnam. I'll just ask him questions about that. I'd ask him about how to dodge ground fire, and he'd blank out for an uncomfortably long amount of time like he was spacing out and having a flashback, and then he'd snap to and be like "oh it was pretty easy because of the lead" (pronounced "leed" like when you're shooting at a moving target).

They're actually nice people, but they're crazy.

Reminder Hillary Clinton rapes guys. I don't even think this is the same guy I saw before. She musty be raping a lot of guys.

HILLARY CLINTON RAPED ME!!!!!!!!!!

This is why I to roll my eyes at this stuff about how Trump's supporters will see the light. Fuentes has his fans, but there are millions of these people and they have no idea who Nick Fuentes is. These people volunteer at their local GOP office and work in elections (they are, I must admit, very thorough and fair with the rules), and they didn't even know what the trash bag thing was when other Trump supporters would show up to vote wearing trash bags. That was a meme.

If Trump's philandering wouldn't move them, none of this other stuff will. Their capacity for compartmentalizing contradictory information is unlimited. Listen, it's all part of God's plan, so trust in God and vote for Trump and everything's going to be alright.

>>2417348
Yknow Gavin Newsom threatening to, essentially, kill the moribund Republican Party out here if this gerrymander goes through is some clever politicking. The Chapos have been talking for a while about politics gradually devolving into “how will you hurt the other side” but up until recently it’s felt like Dems won’t throw a punch. The Republicans will shit in their mouth and they’ll just cry “we need to go back to the party of John McCain!” Gruesome Newsom so far is just saying “well everything you do I’ll do back to you.”

He’s a neoliberal, but I think we’re watching what his strategy will be for the next presidential primaries. Shit at this rate I’m not gonna be surprised if he just says he’s gonna arrest Trump’s whole family if elected. There won’t be any progressive policy, but he could probably beat progressive contenders with the promise of terrorizing the chuds.

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>>2417405
Nick will win, it's inevitable. No one else can produce content like this.

>>2417376
The US can't even build nuclear reactors on earth any more

And we've all gone to look for America
All gone to look for America
All gone to look for America

>>2417376
healthcare pls

>>2417402
>libs are a Satanic cabal who practice sorcery.
>The husband was a Huey pilot in Vietnam
<Reports suggest that some soldiers in the Vietnam War, particularly from certain units, engaged in the practice of collecting "ears" as trophies
<Reasons for this behavior
<Psychological Warfare: Some sources allege that some units, specifically the ROK (South Korean) army units, were involved in this practice as a form of psychological warfare, even potentially receiving bonuses.
<Personal trophies: The act may have been used to boast prowess and achievements among peers or as a symbol of masculinity, according to Wikipedia.
<Indigenous Practices (for some Special Forces): Some accounts suggest that elements within the Green Berets, interacting with indigenous tribes who practiced similar customs for spiritual reasons, might have adopted or been exposed to this behavior.

>>2417408
It's odd how the left (don't just mean hard left) doesn't have a real disc jockey personality. The closest thing was Stewart. The right has Rush Limbaugh, Bill O Reily, Tucker, Fuentes. And they tend to have actual say on the base. And I guess some personalities on liberal side has hand on the pulse of base. But they never strayed from the line. Hasan could be, but he tries too hard to be a celebrity than a Charles Coughlin

>>2416518
>ZOG isn't re-ACK!!

>>2417423
Hasan doesn't have the talent. Fuentes is like Macho Man level fire on the mic

>>2417423
The uh "left" doesn't really like disc jockeys that much as a general rule of things. They value their academics over banter. They simply react to market demand.

>>2417431
If propaganda didn't matter no one would do it.

>>2417430
he can be (though tbf it's clips). It seems that he is kinda holding back due to the recent uptick in mainstream attention, plus the propaganda brigade of Klein, Gusano and Diddy Saltman. Though he always had a problem of explaining shit. Remember him kinda waffling during debate with Fuentes, Destiny, and Akkad.
>>2417431
It's funny since they are clamoring for a "Joe Rogan of the left". I do feel like the 'left', Liberals , DemSocs, hell comunnists need to take the stick out of their asses.

>>2417410
As funny as it is sad

>>2417437
Sorry if Hasan can't perform at this point then he'll never be able to do it. He's been in the game long enough. Someone will emerge eventually but it's unlikely they will be as real as Nick, that type of skill and heart and connection to a base can't be bought. Nick is a legitimately sui-generis figure in the political media scene.

>>2417423
Haz is the only one I can think about with that same level of pedantic clownery.

>>2417402
I had a Vet come through my line that kind of went through some "trauma dump" (for lack of a better word) where he basically said America should've just developed Vietnam instead of trying to bomb it and how awful the things they did there was. Nice enough guy, but him talking about napalm at the register was pretty awkward.

That said, I've had a few Q-folks come into the store. I think COVID unironically killed a lot of them off (one older couple was telling us to never ever get the vaccine). One was smiling from ear to ear because he claimed that Trump was gonna release the medbeds soon and that the treatments can de-age you (for a maximum of three times) so he's already reserved a ticket for his wife and him to return to their twenties. Wild shit.

>>2417423
>>2417431
>>2417437

Define "The Left" in this case, 'cause I guess Cenk Uygur could've maybe been that type of persona for the libs, but I think the problem is the whole personality plays on a mix of entertainment and aggrievement. It's a dude commuting to his shitty job, listening to the AM radio, and hearing some guy talk about how Nancy Pelosi is saying immigrants are just better workers than Americans or whatever. It's the kind of thing where you're glowering, you get a simmering anger worked up, and then the radio host says something like: "Well it ain't PC, but I don't think the country will fall apart if we kick out all these goddamn mexicans!" To which the listener, maybe after knocking back a few beers or maybe while melting in his car, just nods and grumbles "Yer goddamn right."

It needs at least some element of performative cruelty or callousness to work. It requires going with a kind of flow, speaking to peoples' libidinal impulses, and I'm sorry but if there's one term I wouldn't use to describe the Left out here, it's "libidinal". If you say "man, they're fucking hardworking Americans over" you'll get thirty responses like:
>"Um, the Left isn't just about AMERICA you know?"
>"They're fucking WORKERS over. The proletariat has no country."
>"Using the phrase 'fucking over' is part of rape culture."
>"Americans DESERVE it for what they did in X!"

It requires letting loose, just saying fuck it. Saying you're unequivocally being fucked and you don't deserve it.


Honestly Hasan's problem is he is doing AOC-lite. Like he will go further in shitting on the Dems. And rightfully doesn't just push the Agent Kochinski line of "YOU HAVE TO VOTE DEMOCRAT". But man, he needs to take a page out of Fuentes' notebook and pull a groyper war on Dems. The fact he isn't directing his fans to go to townhalls and other things and push Dems on Gaza, etc. But at best, he says help with this strike, help campaign if you can. Sure that's nice. But you would think directly attacking that institution would be better

>>2417439
Nick is in a weird place. He has in some way been vindicated in rhetoric. Look at the OG groyper war and where Con Inc stood with all his shit. Now they parrot it. And even if they won't go as far on Israel, younger conservatives are moving that way. But he still doesn't have that much sway. Like when he shits on Trump, it doesn't move MAGA. Or even younger cons. It seems his success is mainly in the media world

>>2417440
Haz is a funny case because he had that personality ala Alex Jones. His most viral moment being a Wow Mao video. But he seems to have mellowed out and you don't really see that same energy. I think he is trying for Jackson Hinkle

>>2417442
The trouble is that Liberals are Nazi recruiters. Always oppose Social Fascists and other reformists.

>>2417446
I just really hate these social sector fuckers as an autistic trans woman because they just want to keep minorities as little pet monkeys. Fuck the nonprofit sector. Fuck the socdems.

>>2417442
Cenk does have a claim.
>mix of entertainment and aggrievement.
I think you are overthinking it. Like yeah, it's easy to blame the Mexicans and shit. Just as easy to blame the millionaires and billionaires. The elites. Like I mean, you talk as if leftists can't be cruel or callous when tehy can be. Obviously to things like Israel and the pedo elite. I do agree that can be this higher than though feeling on the left but this wasn't always the case

>>2417442
I think the best venue for that is some sort of let's player leftoid who plays popular games but then again anyone who is a communist is by nature more introverted (In the jungian sense not in being a wallflower) so we're kind of out of the loop on what normalfags actually like and if we do know of it we cant really appeal to that.

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>>2417445
Nick has an outsized cultural impact, just the way people think about jews has changed as everyone is trying to compete with him.
Also people in influential positions are listening to him and being emboldened by him. He's basically influencing the influencers.
Hasan could never and has never laid out a radical argument like this, Nick does it every day of the week without trying.

>>2417309
lenin never says that the entire country is full of people too reactionary to use you lying schizo.3

>>2417450
>I think you are overthinking it. Like yeah, it's easy to blame the Mexicans and shit. Just as easy to blame the millionaires and billionaires. The elites. Like I mean, you talk as if leftists can't be cruel or callous when tehy can be. Obviously to things like Israel and the pedo elite. I do agree that can be this higher than though feeling on the left but this wasn't always the case

Ehhh for me, I think conservatives really "ride the wave" of the hate and just roll with it uncritically, by contrast the left is hypercritical. Like an example I go back to is saying people who don't put their shopping cart away are animals and I was inundated with "Well what about disabled people?" "Why do you hate animals?" on and on and on it goes.

>>2417452
Eh, I hang out with some right-leaning people every now and then. I don't think I'm that out of the loop. Thing is I think by its nature a "communist disc jockey" type would have to really edit how they speak, you know they'd be maybe talking about "the rich" and "corporations" over straight up "capitalism" if only because that just works better for the format.

>>2417465
Lenin was also in Tsarist Russia where the majority of people were oppressed by the imperialist state, rather than America, where the majority of the people are beneficiaries of it. It's all about taking what Marx and Lenin said and applying it to your own material conditions, instead of just slavishly assuming that history will unfold exactly the same as it has before.

>>2417469
You certainly do hang out with some "right leaning people" and I'm sure they say the same when they hang out with you, fascist.

>>2417476
get up and do something

>>2417446
Scratch a lib fashy bleeds. Never fails.

>>2417442
>It needs at least some element of performative cruelty or callousness to work. It requires going with a kind of flow, speaking to peoples' libidinal impulses, and I'm sorry but if there's one term I wouldn't use to describe the Left out here, it's "libidinal".
This stuff has never really worked for the left, and it's probably down to something deeper in the politics just being different. I also suspect that a left which does the same kind of stuff that you see right-wing demagogues do, it will cease being the left and become… something else. It's like Jimmy Dore, he's just a conservative now. Usually when I see leftists going down this road, well, okay that guy is going to become a right-wing grifter in six months and they always do.

The right is all opportunism and trying to use whatever tactics they have on hand that lets them dominate the immediate situation. They can use whatever slogans if it helps them in the pursuit of that goal. Theory is not their strong suit, and they're at ease with lying and it doesn't bother them. If they're revealed to be bullshitters, the most important thing is that this happens once they're already in power and have the police at their disposal to put a boot up your ass.

Antisemitism? Nick Fuentes is totally mixing things up by adding that into the pot! It's nonsense. That's how they get you. They have no scruples adding that into their mix of a dozen different banners which they're flying at any given time. One of those banners can even have the words "socialism" written on it. If it gains them a certain number of allies, that's what they'll do. The overall coalition can be totally contradictory and it doesn't matter to them.

The left, meanwhile, as I see it, is something which has no sense of sanctity towards any existing historical situation, or the opinion of the majority, or prejudgements. It's not like you do things which contradict your own premises (an extreme example would be killing kids or whatever in the pursuit of your goals). But a lot of right-wing populist rhetoric is wrapped up in arrrgh this THING which we hold SACRED is yada yada, and you're supposed to sit there and listen and seethe and get some catharsis through this vessel that you're watching.

But the right has great strengths because it's so flexible like that. That said, an important function of the left can be to expose the right for what it actually is. This is especially the case in international politics where it's very obvious. Because once the people they shill for get into actual power, they "betray" them and go MechaBrandon and give more weapons to Israel. Orban is a big Israel guy. The AfD in Germany if they take over the German government will be even more pro-Israel than anybody else in Germany. Eventually Trump will go away and they'll find somebody else like Josh Hawley and you'll have right-wing zoomers for Hawley telling you that you're a Jew if you're not for Hawley, and it'll happen all over again.

>>2417482
Nick fuentes is anti-zionist. You slander him like any cockroach liberal zionist.

>>2417485
Then what's up with the Trump flag in the picture

>>2417476
> It's all about taking what Marx and Lenin said and applying it to your own material conditions, instead of just slavishly assuming that history will unfold exactly the same as it has before.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/09/08.htm
<You know that the institutions, mores, and traditions of various countries must be taken into consideration, and we do not deny that there are countries – such as America, England, and if I were more familiar with your institutions, I would perhaps also add Holland – where the workers can attain their goal by peaceful means. This being the case, we must also recognize the fact that in most countries on the Continent the lever of our revolution must be force; it is force to which we must some day appeal in order to erect the rule of labor.


>>2417430
>Hasan doesn't have the talent. Fuentes is like Macho Man level fire on the mic
what's with all the fuentard dickriders
who can barely keep their masks on

Suckers idolizing mediocre penis
>>2417490
I think they are doing an astroturf blitzkrieg to keep his name circulating in the news. I think that is why Fuentes posting has become so prevalent. It is likely a Private Equity management team that is doing a lot of the posting, maybe using some sort of customized AI.

You know everything Marx and Engels ever wrote about America is extremely positive?

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>>2417489
Yeah, see, pure opportunism. The Nickfags can just be like "whoopsie, don't need that anymore!" And then just pretend they didn't play any role in this, and they will never take any responsibility at all. There were ultra-Zionist freaks who went to prison for J6 and then moved to Israel and were in the same movement with these people. Doesn't matter. It was ALWAYS a tactical imposture in the moment, and it always will be because that's the essence of the right.

>>2417423
>the left (don't just mean hard left) doesn't have a real disc jockey personality.
I don't think were capable. Sounds weird. But I think since leftism is defacto intellectual and econ adjacent our best talkers are just too high brow. I cant really speak for others but I'm always going to learn more from guys like Hakim, or Ben Norton than idk Sam Seder.

>>2417493
This might explain a lot of those anti-woke consumerist guys on youtube who look like soyjaks.

>>2417493
Thank god biben stopped the j6 coup and saved amerikkka from ultra zionism

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>>2417463
Fuentes:
<how come jews get their own special word for offending their sensibilities? No other race gets that. If you're racist against other races it's just called racism but that's universal, only Jews get their own special word, antisemitism.
well to be fair it wasn't coined by jews but by a guy named Wilhelm Marr to describe his own anti-jewish political ideology. however it is true that jewish supremacists have basically adopted the word as a thought-terminating cliche meant to shut down anyone criticizing them. also even though other races don't "get their own special word" we see similar efforts in practice. For example in the 00s there was controversy over a buildboard that went up in one of the southern states that basically said "anti racism is a code word for anti white".

>>2417493
You are sectarian libtard who slanders anti-zionist nick fuentes.
>And then just pretend they didn't play any role in this,
You are a biden voter lmao. Kill yourself

>>2417497
Maybe part of it is because Jews are an ethno religious group and not a race. They are literally just White Europeans mostly and some are Arab which in past also were counted on census forms in the US as White.

>>2417500
that is true but I didn't want to complicate my post too much by introducing that issue. I was mainly going by the logic of what I was responding to in order to reveal an internal contradiction, rather than trying to expose all of the contradictions and complications surrounding jewish identity politics, which are… a lot

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Speaking of Jan 6. Just saw this, a few months old, but new to me.

>A convicted January 6 felon and known MAGA extremist, who was pardoned by Trump, was fatally shot by a police officer after brandishing an illegal firearm. Following an investigation, the officer was cleared of any wrongdoing. Authorities released video.

>>2417499
>>2417485
A unwieldy tool for the zionists, but nevertheless still a tool.

>>2417502
rare pig w

>>2417505
I don't know about w, but the guy clearly said, "that's it, I'm killing myself" then presumably picked up a gone.
>1
he was going to shoot himself anyways
>2
I think the cops are in their right to shoot people when they clearly pickup a gun. He just as easily could've changed his mind in a split second and decided to kill the cop first, and go murder-suicide someone else or some shit.

>>2417503
how is this person "anti-semetic" like that biden voting libtard said? the only person who would call this recent statement anti-semetic is a zionazi

>Yesterday, two gunmen opened fire on a house party; a concealed carry permit holder returned fire, neutralizing one of the shooters and wounding the other. This took place in Harvey, Illinois.

>Chicago Fight leads to shots fired.

Are we really humoring a dipshit who thinks Nick Fuentes is single-handedly responsible for shifts in public opinion

>>2417517
I'm not.

>>2417502
Haha dumb loser

>>2417517
>Are we really humoring a dipshit who thinks Nick Fuentes is single-handedly responsible for shifts in public opinion
It's hard to believe that anyone left of Biden is falling for this shit. I mean, at least tucker Carlson is reasonably capable and has all the access of being proper glowie. But this dumb twink is just a more explicitly Nazi version of Destiny. He's only popular because his mediocrity makes his platform seem approachable.

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>DIDDY GANG STRIKES AGAIN💥💥💥
>#NewYork

>>2417494
Sure. But you can't really propagandize via intellectuals. You need those channels that just say what people want to hear, it a clear way. You need a Marat to convey the ideas. Not to say intellectuals can't do it (Sagan in a non political example) or to call the masses retarded (they do have those tendencies). But to have someone convey the message from the outside helps a lot.

>>2417487
Wow, you just did exactly what I warned against, good job.

You are treating Marxism like a religion instead of a science. Rather than treating every word of Marx and Lenin like word of god, it must be treated like a tool which allows us to understand history and solve problems. The America of today is a far cry from the America of Marx's time 200 years ago. It is a planet killing imperialist mega power now. American imperialism is quite literally an existential threat to human civilization. It must be destroyed or the world cannot ever live in peace.

You are quoting from a speech Marx gave before Lenin had even written his theory of Imperialism and acting as if it is some gospel truth which exactly predicts what is to be done today.

This is anti-dialectical and anti-Marxist. Go read State and Revolution and you will understand the essence of what I am saying. The imperialist state must be smashed and destroyed by the armed body of the proletariat. There is no other way to defeat it for good.

>>2417490
Fuentes is a good personality. He has a knack for being entertaining. Remember watching a clip talking about how someone had Whopper Junior hands and it sticks to my mind because it's such a funny way to insult someone. It's clear he would be a good streamer but his choice of politics to gas the Jews left him to dry. Now he collects crypto from a bunch of Zoomies

i have never watched nick fuentes and i don't plan to

>>2417521
>>2417494

Honestly I think sometimes maybe I could do it (I've had a couple customers tell me I've got "a good voice for radio") but I'm also personally pretty lazy in that regard and need something to read off of or someone to bounce off of.

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>>2417522
>The America of today is a far cry from the America of Marx's time 200 years ago.
and that makes neo-confederates very upset

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>>2417522
This is coming from Felix the realist lol.

What Marx was saying was limited to America and England and perhaps Holland would be extended to most nations across the world. Yes people can succeed with the democratic process. You will not be able to beat the US military with a minority of the populace. If the militaries were OP then, they are way more OP now.

So what he said is not outdated in the sense that "workers attaining their goals by peaceful means" is not possible or less possible now, it's possible in way more places than America, England, and Holland.

>>2417526
The biggest hurdle of someone with a "good radio voice". Off the cuff conversation. Though having 2 cohosts always help. Also I would say, much like a YouTube, you can exaggerate how excited you are and slowly lower your tempo

>>2417509
i love how this guy just morphs to whatever he thinks will work, fuck yourself

>>2417499
>You are a biden voter lmao. Kill yourself
Okay yeah but that doesn't change anything about the essence of right-wing politics.

>>2417522
TWists will be like "america bad because it was founded as a slaver settler state in 1776 and that's all that matters" but then when they get pushback they flip to "UM ACTUALLY you have to take change over time into account and really america bad because it's grown into a giant global empire"

>>2417534
Yes, you have to take history into account when analyzing history. Are you literally retarded, or are you willfully anti-Communist and arguing in bad faith?

>>2417536
no because you can't hold a consistent worldview

See I can do conversation as long as it's, well, a conversation with a person. If I'm talking to myself I start thinking I'm going crazy. Gimme someone to bounce off of and maybe a subject and I can go for a while; used to debate team back in highschool and could improv pretty well.

>>2417536
Why are you using ablest language? Are you an ablest?

>>2417526
Going to start a podcast called Chud and Woke. I'll be the Chud and CPUSA will be the woke. Consists of me using words like retarded and gay and CPUSA anon doing land acknowledgement every episode

>>2417528
You will always need some form of military support to back up a revolution. All those peaceful transitions Marx pointed out as possibilities would take the military being so influenced by local mores and traditions they would stand to the side and support the idea of worker's democratic will instead of the bourgeoisie. But would the current American military of today do that?

Also this isn't blindly advocating fighting the military which would be a disaster. Leftists will need to appeal to soldiers and get some of them on our side so we don't get completely cub stomped no matter what happens.

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>>2417547
based jews

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We've lost Dugin it's over


>>2417547
based i love jeews

>>2417476
>America, where the majority of the people are beneficiaries of it.
I don't think I benefit one bit from my government taxing me to genocide Palestinians and destroy their schools, hospitals, factories, farms instead of building american schools, hospitals, factories, farms. I have yet to understand how I "benefit" from my government killing millions in my name and making millions more grow up to despise me and lump me in with my government (rightfully so I suppose because I didn't risk my life to stop them).
<umm like the banana is cheaper or something
I think if we were building schools, hospitals, factories, and farms here instead of destroying schools, hospitals, factories and farms and families elsewhere, more expensive banana would be a small price to pay, and banana would probably actually be less expensive since the development of productive forces decreases the price of commodities by reducing the socially necessary labor time required for their production while imperialist war deliberately destroys the productive forces to create artificial scarcity and maintain bourgeois dictatorship.

reposted because typo

>>2417556
It's less benefit and more that growth in the imperial core comes at the expense of stagnation in the periphery.

I don't think it's reasonable to assert workers profit off of the monopsony rents (lower wages) extracted from the periphery. I do think that profit overtop of what goes towards maintenance/reproduction of the imperial core largely comes from the periphery.

Due to the falling rate of profit, capitalism tends to reach crises of overproduction. There is a low rate of profit and more is produced than the proles can afford to buy. State-monopoly capital delays the crisis with rent and interest, monopsony rent specifically targeting the periphery and externalizing disaster and crises of overproduction to the periphery.

I don't think that the workers in the imperial core drain wealth from the periphery. I do think that the imperial core only produces just enough for the social reproduction of capital. IMO it's the expansion and growth of the imperial core which is parasitic on the periphery.

If the periphery is hell then the imperial core is purgatory I guess.

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>>2417346
>I voted for that orange bitch thinking he was somewhat better, but no. Fuck me.
About 9 months too late, but you shouldn't have vooted to begin with

>>2416479
Why are you having a meltdown, schizo? Stop making things up and getting mad at them lmao

>>2417566
>It's less benefit and more that growth in the imperial core comes at the expense of stagnation in the periphery.
How does America destroying schools, hospitals, factories and farms in far away lands help us grow? All it does is stop other people from growing. It doesn't help us grow. It just ensures that a larger and larger percentage of our annual GDP goes into war making. Instead of building schools and hospitals we're makign bombs to destroy the schools and hospitals of Palestinians. I'll ask again, how does that benefit anyone but the American bourgeoisie? Particularly the military industrial complex.
>I don't think it's reasonable to assert workers profit off of the monopsony rents (lower wages) extracted from the periphery. I do think that profit overtop of what goes towards maintenance/reproduction of the imperial core largely comes from the periphery.
I ask again. How does genociding people all over the world help ups maintain or reproduce ourselves? Every dollar that goes into keeping them down could be spent on lifting us up instead. It's a completely false dilemma. The imperial core bourgeoisie fear the periphery catching up with THEM specifically so they turn to US, the workers in the imperial core and they use national chauvinism. They say "We're all in this together. If China gets too good at making solar panels and computer chips, that hurts YOU just as much as it hurts us." I think that's BULLSHIT.

I'm a Moist-Third Worldist.

>>2417566
>yuo see, if amerriga bomb everywhere else, u grow, becus america line stay high and everyone else line stay low
>don't ask what else the labor invested in the trillions of dollars spent on doing this absurd process could have gone to btw you couldn't have benefitted more that way

>>2417509
>sure, I may gave helped promote the current zionist in office but thoughts and prayers😌🙏
This rings even more hollow.

considering in latin "MAGA" is a feminine form of "Magus" which means Magician or Sorcerer in Latin, as well as trumps go to outfit being his red tie white shirt like the Red Robe White shirt on the Magician Tarot Card, and his followers and detractors all being under the spell of even giving a fuck about him everyday, i would say he's a master magician

>>2417585
Krav Maga is an Israeli form of martial arts

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Reagan did it first.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3077773/Trump-trademarked-slogan-Make-America-Great-just-DAYS-2012-election-says-Ted-Cruz-agreed-not-use-Scott-Walker-booms-TWICE-speech.html

>EXCLUSIVE: Trump trademarked slogan 'Make America Great Again' just DAYS after the 2012 election and says Ted Cruz has agreed not to use it again after Scott Walker booms it TWICE in speech


<Donald Trump tells Daily Mail Online that the line 'is my whole theme'

<Ronald Reagan first popularized 'Let's Make America Great Again' in 1979 and 1980, and Trump was there to see it as one of his first backers
<Trademark papers were filed in November 2012, indicating how long Trump has been thinking about a serious run for the White House
<Cruz dropped the line into his campaign launch video, but just in passing
<Walker ended his speech Saturday in South Carolina with the slogan, booming it twice for emphasis
<Chris Christie used it at the 2012 Republican National Convention and got a round of applause in Tampa
<Now Trump will own the line for the purposes of 'promoting public awareness of political issues and fundraising in the field of politics'
<Welcome to MAGAland Podcast: Trump vs Taylor, Kendrick vs MAGA, plus what does the President have against Meghan Markle? Listen here.
> 12 May 2015

10 years of Trump. Where has the time gone?

Trump is basically an even shittier version of Reagan.

>>2417543
I thought he was supposed to be the Chud.

>>2417541
>>2417526
What are you looking for someone to do a podcast with?
>I've had a couple customers tell me I've got "a good voice for radio"
I heard your voice that one time you uploaded reading that article comparing Lenin to Trump. I was about to do it too.

Who else do we need in there. Gay Nazi. Houdini. Guest starring Felix from the frontlines. We need more diversity. It's too honkoid status.

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>>2417528
You ignore all of Lenin for one sentence of Marx and think this makes you reasonable. It makes you a zealot, a zealot for the bourgeois empire that oppresses the world. When have workers achieved their goal, a dictatorship of the proletariat, through bourgeois democracy? Where has it happened? No "democratic" socialist movement has even come close. In every case their power has been gradually eroded by the constant profit pressure of capitalism eating away at regulations and public entities to make up for the continuation of the rate of profit to decline.

You cannot use bourgeois democracy to dismantle bourgeois democracy because the system exists to further bourgeois interests and the bourgeoisie control all the power, the bodies of armed men empowered to do violence, who act on their behalf.

What you propose, in practice, is subordinating yourself to the bourgeois system and forms of struggle which are acceptable to bourgeois power. You become reformists fighting for more crumbs on the table as the bourgeoisie continue to rape and pillage the world, slowly building a coalition which can at best use the spoils of imperialism to buy Americans free healthcare in fifty years if your lucky.

We don't have that sort of time. The system which you love so much you would never see it harmed is killing the world. Soon the planet is going to be hostile to human life. Of course the poor in the developing world will suffer more from this than you, just as they always have, and so you don't care. But it will come home to you sooner rather than later.

The only way out is to smash the state, and do it now. Free healthcare is meaningless on a dying earth.

But I think you know this. Deep down you realize it. You just know that you'll probably be dead before it gets really bad, and you're perfectly happy seeing entire nations sink into the sea just as long as you can have a comfy life. This is the apotheosis of liberalism. The complete, bloodless inhumanity of it all. You don't have the courage to kill yourself, so you let the system do it for you. As long as it benefits you, your family, and your precious nation, you are willing to tolerate any monstrosity.

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>>2417606
The time has gone in the trash

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>>2417756
the real issue uniting the left and right

>>2417768
Zionists and the fools they manipulate are a packaged deal. There will be no friendliness towards the idiots.

>>2417784
the problem is the tactics Zionism uses to fool people aren't working as effectively as before, and once it's gone it's gone, there's no going back to convincing/intimidating americans to putting israeli interests over american, especially when the feds withhold disaster aid over it

What's up with Americans and the obsession with Israel, lol???

Like your CIA budget's less than 2% accounts for the Palestinian genocide, while the rest goes to other genocides.

I don't get it. Is this your basic ameriburger moralist cage, or what?

Where was the similar uproar against toppling Assad, Guaddafi? Both cases bore similar, if not worse, results?

Where were you then, Burger?

>>2417798
anti-zionist politics have existed for 70+ years now in the west. support politics for your favorite tinpot dictator who loses popular support has barely lasted a decade or so.

>>2417798
>What's up with Americans and the obsession with Israel, lol???
Guess where the largest amount of Jews outside of Israel live.

>>2417805
Even outside of NYC and in Wasp County, Kentucky, there'll be bumper stickers of the US and Israeli flags together.

>>2417798
<Like your CIA budget's less than 2% accounts for the Palestinian genocide, while the rest goes to other genocides.
We foot the bill for the genocide of Palestinians publicly and openly through our discretionary military budget, not through our CIA budget.


>>2417798
its much easier to break the law and go to jail over protesting israel than Assad or Gaddafi

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>>2417814
>The presiding judge responded favorably. “I loved that AI, thank you for that. As angry as you are, as justifiably angry as the family is, I heard the forgiveness,” he said. “I feel that that was genuine.”
._.

>>2417814
This ai bubble is going to pop so hard

>>2417814
maaaan this ruined my day I hate this world

>>2417798
>Where were you then, Burger?

Here is a short accounting of my politics since the age of 10:

Bush era: "these wars are bad for everyone except MIC"

Obama era: "these wars are bad for everyone except MIC"

Trump era: "these wars are bad for everyone except MIC"

Biden era: "these wars are bad for everyone except MIC"

Trump 2 era: "these wars are bad for everyone except MIC"

>>2417814
Seriously. When the fuck is this shit going to stop? This uncanny, inhuman slop is being force fed down everyone's throats solely to generate fake profits for fake companies making fake everything. Any time I go on my phone it asks if I want to use Gemini to do shit I can do myself. I go on YouTube and it summarizes comments unprompted, as I'm stuck watching an AI ad with an AI voice promoting AI tools to create AI businesses. I see ads in real life that are AI generated because someone couldn't be bothered to hire someone to draw a picture of a cookie or something.

Get these fucking clankers out of my face.

>>2417051
White libs want apartheid, segregation and genocide to be done through invisible market forces. Redlining, cutting social services, militarizing police, and as we see with Israel and Ukraine genocide by proxy. Rightiods just want it done explicitly, so they’re just retarded more blood thirsty libs. So not totally the same but the difference is you’re being used by libs to advance their agenda and they know. While you think you are opposing the libs despite having the same agenda.

>>2417822
meanwhile normies can't get enough of AI. they eat this shit up and that's why it keeps getting pushed.

>>2417826
My retard friend keeps generating AI slop for DnD and using real pictures of the group for prompts. Thanks for giving them my facial data so you can be mildly amused by the (incredibly lame and/or unfunny) "art" for thirty seconds, dipshit.

>>2417814
BUTLERIAN JIHAD NOW

>>2417826
manager retards think it's literal magic that can replace workers when in fact it is only as good as its training data, which is curated by, guess who

>>2417826
normies everywhere love ai. its only the anglosphere panicking about it

>>2417812
Some Protestant Christian Dispensationalist sects see Israel as part of end times prophesy. Israel took advantage and purposefully help spread it through people like Jerry Falwell and other televangelists in the 80s. Israeli government paid for Falwell's trips to Israel. Falwell was friends with the Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin who founded Likud, the party of Netanyahu.

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>>2417822
>Seriously. When the fuck is this shit going to stop?
it probably won't. even if you go full uncle ted on every data center they'll just build more. the genie's out of the bottle and there's very little chance of putting him back in. you're gonna see a lot of fighting about details of the genie but very few people pushing to put him back in the box forever.

>>2417819
i have a feeling it won't anytime soon. remember, ai can't strike, it can't ask for a raise, and it can't go on vacation. it is every corporation's dream to replace every worker possible with a dataset that does something without complaint or spits out some retarded idea. for fucks sake we didn't forget there was an ai generated coke flavor 2 years ago

>>2417850
the problem is that it's sustained by a mostly artificial demand, and when this stops being the new flashy toy, that demand turns to stone, and it comes crashing down

>>2417850
more importantly AI has no accountability. if an AI system makes a decision that leads to an accidental death, who gets sued?

>>2417850
AI will crash as it starts to consume AI datasets for its own data and it will grow useless in six months

>>2417850
Until actual AI gets achieved

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>>2417858
this
>>2417850
it is a bunch of programmers in a trenchcoat that requires massive amounts of human-curated training data and has so many billions of parameterized inputs that it can go haywire for no reason unpredictably. also every AI company is essentially renting cloud services from amazon and other tech giants to keep it running. these startups go under as soon as the rent goes up. the rent is going up because the USA is in a trade war with the people who actually make the chips and hardware that the AI runs on

>>2417864
maybe if we feed the AI 10 more sonic feet pics from deviantart it will achieve godlike intelligence

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>>2417870
PLQNTRVSTERSISTERZ?

>>2417821
And you willingly chose to do nothing about it and passively benefit from these wars because…?

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Randy Fine Should Resign
The Trump movement, in fact, has much more in common with the best representatives of the “free Palestine movement” that Fine wants “put down” than with his own mass-murderous brand of “Zionism.”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/randy-fine-should-resign/

>>2417876
MAGA reasserting its anti-imperialist credentials while “socialists” in the DSA continue to support liberalism and globalism, you simply love to see it

>>2417812
A lot of those people are Evangelical Christians who have a whole complex around Israel. They have a tribal, religious attachment to Israel as foretold by prophecies and interlinked with nationalism. They want to immantize the eschaton basically and see America as given to them by God, that the nation is uniquely blessed by God, and they view a Jewish homeland in the Middle East in similar terms. If you've never been around this culture it's hard to believe people take this stuff seriously but they do. There are other factors like arms sales and U.S. regional control and so on, but it's a factor. A lot of them serve in the military, watch/play baseball, have nostalgia for the frontier and cowboys, and have a psychology that you might describe as an honor culture, which makes the trigger-happy cowboy diplomacy of Bush or Trump attractive to them.

This is the big plot twist of Jacksonian populism which also has isolationist tendencies. It does have that tendency, but Trump attacking Iran is also totally compatible because fuck the U.N. / we don't need their approval to defend American honor (because Iran supplied weapons that killed our troops when we occupied Iraq… which we did because… well it wasn't WMDs it was… well why do you hate America?)

The Jewish population (around 40% of the world total) are more concentrated in/around New York and New Jersey, South Florida, and to some extent Los Angeles. (Smaller numbers in other places.)

>>2417875
>passively benefit from these wars
Unless he is part of the MIC here is no benefit. If anything paying taxes for pointless wars that achieved nothing is a cost.

>>2417876
>should
spooky moralism
>resign
we live in a bourgeois dictatorship, he is doing his job

That being said, if you want someone gone it's not a matter of asking them nicely.

>>2417878
>MAGA reasserting its anti-imperialist credentials
reminder that MAGA is a national chauvinist movement which started because a billionaire came down a golden escalator and said mexicans are rapists and promised to bomb the middle east and take their oil to thunderous applause. the isolationist wing of MAGA is not about "anti-imperialism" it is about temporarily withdrawing America from certain aspects of imperialism in order to A: focus on an internal purge of the political left at home and B: heal and recover so it can be a better monster in the future. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either stupid or lying.

>>2417831
No
>>2417864
>i have a feeling it won't anytime soon. remember, ai can't strike, it can't ask for a raise, and it can't go on vacation
It also can’t do the job properly. Needs to be babysat to avoid it devolving into an incoherent mess, and even that doesn’t really work too well. It’s prone to hallucinations and generating complete junk. Corps jumped the gun on a technology in the middle of research, and now they’ve dedicated a cult to it.
>it is every corporation's dream to replace every worker possible with a dataset that does something without complaint or spits out some retarded idea
And it will remain a dream for them. They didn’t push their “ai” because they are rational or because they’re one step ahead of the average person. They pushed their “ai” because they’re desperate to not have to depend on the proletariat, and because they’re far too greedy for their own good. They drank their “magic elixir”, caring not if it poisons them later on.
>>2417850
It’ll be sooner than that

>>2417880
If you have reserves including investments, retirement funds or savings then yes you are passively benefitting from these wars as your reserves are directly tied to the MIC and affiliated companies which your reserves are invested in. To keep your savings from completely cratering requires the continued health of the American economy which is built around the MIC and its ability to wage war

>>2417882
>Corps jumped the gun on a technology in the middle of research, and now they’ve dedicated a cult to it.
yes and in some ways it's even worse than that. They took a technology theorized in the 50s (neural networks) and ran with it like it was a one size fits all solution just because the hardware finally caught up with the theory.

>>2417881
american conservatives are aware of the fact that better imperialist conditions, like the unipolar american hegemony of the last 30 years, are never coming back, that's why pundits like Tucker don't want a war with China or Russia and it's also why Trump didn't go to war with Iran over the summer. everybody knows there's no 'healing and recovering' when Americas rivals are getting stronger while Americas hegemony slips

>>2417883
i will quit my job immediately, pick one where i make exactly enough to pay the bills, demand every paycheck in cash rather than deposit it in a bank, and if I get 1 cent above subsistence I will set it on fire in protest of the MIC. thank you for your wisdom.

>>2417881
>national chauvinist
Liberal buzzword that means nothing
>muh Drumpftler!!!
Merely a figurehead and he never called all Mexicans rapists nor has he advocated for genocidal imperialism in Russia and the Middle East
>focus on an internal purge of the political left at home
Considering leftism is anti-communist I fail to see why any of us should have an issue with this
>heal and recover so it can be a better monster in the future
Neocon cope that MAGA is happy to indulge for the time being to keep them from siding with the deep state

>>2417889
>that's why pundits like Tucker don't want a war with China or Russia
his entire thing is that we should team up with godly conservative russia against godless communist china

this is a guy who started out wanting to join the contras

why do you take their sudden 180 degree pivot in rhetoric at face value? were you born after abu ghraib?

>>2417891
>Considering leftism is anti-communist I fail to see why any of us should have an issue with this

Because conflation

>>2417891
>Liberal buzzword that means nothing

Marxists have always used the term national chauvinist
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1915/jan/09.htm

<The national-chauvinist temper of this section as a section is testified to by the entire press of Russia, as revealed in the letters of the Petrograd worker (Sotsial-Demokrat Nos. 33 and 35) and in the “Document”(No. 34). Considerable personal re-groupings within that section are quite possible, but it is absolutely improbable that, as a section, it should not be “patriotic” and opportunist.

>>2417891
shut up MIGA bootlicker and go back to pretending like you're anti war when you really want to make the burger reich strong again so it can continue to terrorize the world

>>2417892
we live in a world where america is turning away from free trade and giving up control of global shipping lanes to the houthis. america isn't changing because it wants to but because the multipolar world is forcing it to. get with the times old man
>Tucker on Taiwan: It's far away, and honestly, who cares?

Listen to the second half of this it is about farm workers lmao

>>2417897
ok so it's the changing world forcing america to withdraw, and not some based MAGA chuds who were secretly anti imperialist all along and not a bunch of hooting reactionaries lashing out

>>2417898
everyone told this shit to MAGA retards and they wouldn't admit it but now they suddenly do a 180 and want applause

You could absolutely replace the labor of illegal immigrants with chain gangs from your nearest prison, they just don’t want to

>>2417897
>Tucker on Taiwan: It's far away, and honestly, who cares?
20 years of nonstop high-paid bootlicking and consent manufacturing for the corporations and MIC undone by a few throwaway phrases after getting fired from FOX. lol why do you take this kind of opportunism at face value? were you born after abu ghraib?

>>2417893
Maybe if you’re retarded

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>>2417903
i mean they do that already.

>>2417906
If Tucker was ideologically imperialist in the big 2025, he'd believe winning the fight with Iran, China and Russia would be required to restore former glory to the Empire, but instead he's interviewing Putin and Masoud Pezeshkian lol

>>2417889
>american conservatives are aware of the fact that better imperialist conditions, like the unipolar american hegemony of the last 30 years, are never coming back,
their entire political movement is based on yearning for a golden age and RETVRNing to it. Hence "Make America Great Again." Why do reactionaries lie so much about this? You base your entire messaging and aesthetics on returning to a past that cannot be recovered and then turn around and go "actually we were totally more aware than everyone else that you can't go back to the past and were always about moving forward with the new conditions"

>>2417910
>punished pundit sticks it to his former bosses by interviewing baddies
>I should take this opportunism at face value and believe he is le anti imperialist
tiresome retard. were you born after abu ghraib?

>>2417910
putin literally called him out for being a wannabe CIA agent and opportunist in the interview though

>>2417913
Stop pretending like this is some kind of gotcha when you and millions of other leftoids witnessed abu ghraib and did nothing about it other than burn trash cans

>>2417916
>defends MAGA as some kind of anti imperialist movements
<no they aren't you fucking retard, were you born yesterday
>OK but liberals are no better
didn't say they were any better. Since you won't answer the question I assume you were born after abu ghraib which means you have next to zero historical memory and are going off aura and vibes and taking rhetoric at face value

>>2417916
>you didn't do le anything
nobody in this country does le anything. that's not an excuse to pretend reactionaries are anti imperialists

>>2417917
You’re right, MAGA is imperialist racist sexist ableist fascism. Clearly we should learn from the experts of anti-imperialism like Rojava or CHAZ…oops!

>>2417883
First of all you haven said how people actually benefit from the MIC burning up all those resources for wars that achieved nothing. They don't get cheaper housing, food or healthcare, all those prices have gone up. The MIC is just wasting it all while transferring the money to some oligarchs and that drives up all the prices.
Also if all reserves are all tied to the MIC then it doesn't matters if people have reserves or not. If they save money then it goes to the MIC but if they don't save the money it still going to the MIC through someone else's reserves. So why would it matter at that point who has the reserves or doesn't?

>>2417920
i said liberals are no better. keep making up shit nobody said

>>2417921
>the burger leftoid seriously thinks that paying a little more for gas for his privately owned transportation and secondary means of income is comparable to the rape and exploitation of the imperial periphery that makes his lifestyle possible
Embarrassing!

>>2417912
>their entire political movement is based on yearning for a golden age and RETVRNing to it.
so then why is Tucker on his podcast reading sections of smedley butlers War is a Racket? how does demonizing the american golden age to his conservative audience help return to it?

>>2417925
if he lives as a beggar will he be doing his part?

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>>2417881
>reminder that MAGA is a national chauvinist movement which started because a billionaire came down a golden escalator and said mexicans are rapists and promised to bomb the middle east and take their oil to thunderous applause.
The twist with a lot of the isolationist stuff on the right and "globalists / New World Order / cabal" that you'll hear from Alex Jones or in the more intellectual version of Tucker Carlson is that the U.S. pulling out of international institutions to focus on "America" can also help the U.S. be less restrained when it comes to international affairs. If we had to seek U.N. approval then we wouldn't have bombed Iran because the U.N. Security Council would've vetoed it.

The politics around this are usually going to be rather schizo. There are people on the right who don't like the wars and want the U.S. to pull back, but they don't want the U.S. to be subject to any kind of international system. You have to remember though that those Evangelicals who support Israel also think the United Nations is the devil, and that opposition to Israel in the United Nations is basically Antichrist as foretold by their prophecies.

Trump here is holding up an illustration by David Dees who can charitably be described as antisemitic and an isolationist. Dees died a few years ago but I doubt he would've approved of Trump bombing Iran or his support for Israel. But people would project onto Trump different things.

>>2417889
>american conservatives are aware of the fact that better imperialist conditions, like the unipolar american hegemony of the last 30 years, are never coming back
I think there's a difference in how people think about this in Washington and big swathes of the country. I mean people who work at think tanks, the CIA, the State Department and so forth. And then people who vote for Trump who go to church and focus on their jobs and families and so on. I think a lot of those conservatives wouldn't know what you're talking about if you said "unipolar American hegemony." It'd sound like weird commie talk to them. They don't think "I'm living in an empire and my treats are because of unipolar American hegemony." They live in a bubble and were behind Trump when he bombed Iran because they're told that they chant "death to America" over there and that makes them the bad guys.

The Evangelicals' social base has shrunk in relative terms because of urbanization and immigration (although it's also capable of converting immigrants to it, which is one of its strengths). But there are millions of these people, and they see themselves as like the core of the American nation, the ribcage and the heart, in their own imaginary. They exist across the country, their culture is hegemonic is swathes of the space, more so the more you leave the big cities, the further out you go.

They see immigration from people with different cultures and religions from their own as threatening and a loss to their hegemony, which is leading to the decline of the country, because they see their own relative loss of status and hegemony in the society as intertwined with national decline. Relative post-war prosperity in the 20th century also enabled the conditions for unity between conservative business elites and these middle-class people, which then split into a more educated professional middle class and a sinking lower-middle class which Trump exploited to MAGA.

>>2417926
>the entire political movement
<but TUCKER said a few things for a few months after getting fired
it's a scrooge story. tiresome. he got visited by 3 ghosts and now he's a good guy. therefore I should stop being skeptical of a movement full of reactoids

>>2417928
your take is reasonable and makes sense. meanwhile this retard is screeching at me that I'm a liberal for using terms marxists have always used like "national chauvinist" to describe… reactionary patriotic opportunist movements and ignoring when I post Lenin and choosing to make this about CHAZ and Rojava and other lame shit I didn't even bring up.

>>2417929
so not the entire movement. just admit the right is actually more ideologically divided than you thought

>>2417932
thank you for retreating from "MAGA is anti imperialist" you or the other anon I was originally arguing with before you showed up was putting forward to the much more reasonasble "the right is kinda divided Yo!" which ok yeah sure fine I agree with that. some of them have had a change of heart and only want to bomb children when it benefits america instead of israel.

btw remember that guy who got shot when the assassin missed trump? he said palestinians had it coming. glad he's dead. :^)

Netanyahu approves plan to fully occupy Gaza strip

>>2417932
>not all X are like that though!
reactionaries hate when this argument is used to defend anyone but reactionaries

>>2417865
man these refrigerators. source for everything. microchips. electro motors. gun powder. rare earths. truly astonishing ressources, these refrigerators

zohran status?

>>2417938
cucking like succdems always do

>>2417798
It's always funny when these Zio concern trolls come in going:
>Why do Americans care so much about what Israel is doing in Gaza
>Why are Americans so concerned with geopolitics

lmao. Yes. Americans care way too much about foreign policy and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Everyone says it all the time.

>>2417567
I will never regret not voting in 2024. No lib will ever make me feel bad for not picking pedo Zionist A or pedo Zionist B.

>>2417868
>with the people who actually make the chips and hardware that the AI runs on
Are you stupid? Who do you think controls the technology that makes the chips?

>>2417934
Can I get a link that isn't NYP?

>>2417928
>I think a lot of those conservatives wouldn't know what you're talking about if you said "unipolar American hegemony."
they know it in another language. If I said "You know how America used to be the world police? That's not the case anymore" I think most people could understand that concept

>unless you live as a beggar you benefit from Israel bombing children schools and hospitals
<the millionaire fox news pundit who lost his job is anti imperialist because he did an opportunist 180 in rhetoric

the two genres of retard fed on here who always argue with sensible users but never each other

>>2417915
poutine allowing cucker anywhere near his presence gives credence to the idea he's not CIA when that organization has had a dozen assassination attempts on poutine in the last year alone

>>2417947
Communist China

>>2417954
>unless you live as a beggar you benefit from Israel bombing children schools and hospitals
we have a new brand of retard:

>>2417798
>What's up with Americans and the obsession with Israel, lol???

The you are, like low key a Nazi if you mention Israel or Gaza right now. Highly sus. :^)

>>2417957
But that is simply not true. Whose chips do you think Chinese AI runs on?

>>2417954
>saying genocide is bad is a left wing thing only liberala like us can say
Dumbass. the petty bourgeois vacillates against imperialism sometimes. Just because nick fuentes said there are two genders doesnt mean he cant be anti-imperialist. You just want to gatekeep your fake anti-imperialism (you people (CPUSA GAY NAZI ETC) defend imperialism every day here)

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>>2417932
>so not the entire movement. just admit the right is actually more ideologically divided than you thought
There are rightists with different ideas, sure, but issue is more that the right doesn't actually follow a coherent doctrine. They're not leftists who care a lot about ideology. The right is much more flexible, tactical, contradictory and… mostly they care about the pursuit of power and, like I said earlier, dominating the immediate situation and being emotional and reactive to things which they perceive as slights or constraints on them.

You go into the paleocons, isolationists and conspiracy theorists, you can hear all the time about how different international organizations are a threat to America, that the U.S. should reject participation in global institutions. But the plot twist, again, is that U.S. imperialism doesn't operate on what the rest of the world thinks anyways. "We should limit foreign entanglements" therefore the solution = tear up a bunch of treaties. Result = shape the conditions for the U.S. to engage in unilateral military action. "It's better for America to reject globalism and have Peace Through Strength." Result = all this glorification of strength and not listening to anybody else telling us what to do makes war more likely.

It's kind of like a paradox of intention, or the "Sorcerer's apprentice" or the "irony of history" or the Hegelian dialectic.

>>2417952
>If I said "You know how America used to be the world police? That's not the case anymore" I think most people could understand that concept
Yeah I think they could understand that. But I'm pretty sure most of them wouldn't have a problem with Trump bombing Iran. They didn't like the "world police" concept but they're fine with the unilateral use of American power wielded by a Republican president. Pretty sure.

>>2417962
On global scale, Communist China more and more subsumes production and control of technologies by the day. If not now, then in due time.

>>2417954
I’ve seen feds on here claim homeless people in the U.S are better of than 3rd world bourgeoisie.

>>2417971
i genuinely think they're just really stupid people, not feds, because you do not need feds for that sort of idiocy, it just grows naturally off trees and they weaponize themselves

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>Trump on undocumented farm workers: "People that live in the inner city are not doing that work. They've tried, we've tried, everybody tried. They don't do it. These people do it naturally. Naturally … they don't get a bad back, because if they get a bad back, they die."

tl;dr they're going to send blacks and political dissidents to forced agricultural labor to make up for the lack of migrant farm workers

>>2417965
Can't imagine Argentina recognizing Palestine considering how much of a ZOG Milei is

>>2417974
Looking it up, Argentina recognized Palestine 15 years ago, but I wonder if it still counts because of the way Argentina votes now at the U.N.

Oh and dont forget autists. Autism and anything considered neurodivergent is a "threat to the American way of life" according to our president and RFK Jr, so you can bet that when they're scooped up for some bullshit charge they will also be chained up and forced to work in the fields to "cure" them

>>2417925
Funny how you avoided addressing the point and instead deflected to some comparison I never made.
So lets try again. How does the MIC wasting resources in pointless wars that achieve nothing somehow benefit workers in the core?

Engels was pro free trade

>Protection is at best an endless screw, and you never know when you have done with it. By protecting one industry, you directly or indirectly hurt all others, and have therefore to protect them too. By so doing you again damage the industry that you first protected, and have to compensate it; but this compensation reacts, as before, on all other trades, and entitles them to redress, and so on ad infinitum. American history, in this respect, offers us a striking example of the best way to kill an important industry by protectionism. In 1856, the total imports and exports by sea of the United State amounted to $640 million. Of this amount, 75 per cent were carried in American, and only 25 per cent in foreign vessels. British ocean steamers were already then encroaching upon American sailing vessels; yet, in 1860, of a total seagoing trade of $760 million, American vessels still carried 67 per cent.


>The Civil War came on, and protection to American shipbuilding; and the latter plan was so successful that it has nearly completely driven the American flag from the high seas. In 1887, the total seagoing trade of the United States amounted to $1.4 billion, but of this total only 14 per cent were carried in American, and 86 per cent in foreign bottoms. The goods carried by American ships amounted, in 1856, to $480 million; in 1860 to $500 million. In 1887, they had sunk to $190 million. Prior to the civil war, the American flag was the most dangerous rival of the British flag, and bade fair to outstrip it on the ocean; after the civil war it was nowhere. Protection to shipbuilding has killed both shipping and shipbuilding.

Cop steals $1000 from guy while counting his money

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>>2417994
He's gonna jump to avoid the fallout from the piss tape

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https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/03/politics/democrats-netanyahu-israel-gaza

so what happens in the future when both left and right youth are anti israel and the evangelical boomers have died off?

>>2418000
The planet and palestinians will have successfully died by then

>>2418000
2028 is gonna be spicy

President Donald Trump told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that planned tariffs on pharmaceuticals imported into the U.S. could eventually reach up to 250%, the highest rate he has threatened so far.
He said he will initially impose a “small tariff” on pharmaceuticals, but then in one year to a year and a half “maximum” he will raise that rate to 150% and then 250%.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/05/trump-says-pharma-tariffs-could-eventually-reach-up-to-250percent.html

Lmao

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aoc and bernie are the most popular american candidates among independents

>>2417971
The comprador third world bourgeoisie exploit the proletariat just like first world lumpens. I see ameriKKKan lumpens using drugs made in third world for example. The ameriKKKan lumpens live in tents made in third world. Etc.

>>2418016
Republicans love settler pedophilia with imperialist characteristics and Democrats love woke pedophilia with imperialist characteristics

>>2417989
Incorrect. If engels was pro-free trade that means he would be pro-imperialism. But engels is not pro-imperialism, for free trade, or pro-ameriKKKan shipbuilding. Today, Engles would say fuck ameriKKKan control of shipping industry

>>2418000
Republicans dont have values, they just need a proper Fox News narrative to give them permission to support Israel. A falseflag with an arab-looking perp is all it'll take to get GOP support for Israel back to 90%.

>>2418028
>From this point of view, 40 years ago Marx pronounced, in principle, in favor of Free Trade as the more progressive plan, and therefore the plan which would soonest bring capitalist society to that deadlock. But if Marx declared in favor of Free Trade on that ground, is that not a reason for every supporter of the present order of society to declare against Free Trade? If Free Trade is stated to be revolutionary, must not all good citizens vote for Protection as a conservative plan?

>If a country nowadays accepts Free Trade, it will certainly not do so to please the socialists. It will do so because Free trade has become a necessity for the industrial capitalists. But if it should reject Free Trade and stick to Protection, in order to cheat the socialists out of the expected social catastrophe, that will not hurt the prospects of socialism in the least. Protection is a plan for artificially manufacturing manufacturers, and therefore also a plan for artificially manufacturing wage laborers. You cannot breed the one without breeding the other.


>The wage laborer everywhere follows in the footsteps of the manufacturer; he is like the "gloomy care" of Horace, that sits behind the rider, and that he cannot shake off wherever he go. You cannot escape fate; in other words, you cannot escape the necessary consequences of your own actions. A system of production based upon the exploitation of wage labor, in which wealth increases in proportion to the number of laborers employed and exploited, such a system is bound to increase the class of wage laborers, that is to say, the class which is fated one day to destroy the system itself. In the meantime, there is no help for it: you must go on developing the capitalist system, you must accelerate the production, accumulation, and centralization of capitalist wealth, and, along with it, the production of a revolutionary class of laborers. Whether you try the Protectionist or the Free Trade will make no difference in the end, and hardly any in the length of the respite left to you until the day when that end will come. For long before that day will protection have become an unbearable shackle to any country aspiring, with a chance of success, to hold its own in the world market.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1888/free-trade/

>>2418028
him and marx were pro-imperialist though? they were only anti-imperialists under the condition that imperialism would stop being progressive, but you're a rat, a troll, and a worst example of this website, so you don't really care

>>2418048
Imperialism is not progressive. You are the neoliberal troll rats who mangle our sacred proletarian science out of historical context to defend imperialism and free trade

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So uh, predictions what will become of the Democrats?

>Pelosi one bad sneeze away from the grave

>Hakeem Jeffries is the most milquetoast party leader in decades
>Democratic voters overwhelmingly dislike Israel while the party establishment overwhelmingly support genocide
>Chuck Schumer is overwhelmingly disliked even among his own constituents and will probably lose reelection to AOC

>>2417997
>He's gonna jump

>>2418061
They're gonna block any progressive movement from flourishing to give piggie what it wants

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>>2417932
>the right is actually more ideologically divided than you thought
…. woah…. you think….?

>>2418061
>somewhat good ending

all the old boomers die off and they get replaced with a surge of social democrat youth like zohran and aoc……..who just end up being disappointments in their own special way

>bad ending


you guys hear about abundance liberalism

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>>2418044
>Whether you try the Protectionist or the Free Trade will make no difference in the end, and hardly any in the length of the respite left to you until the day when that end will come. For long before that day will protection have become an unbearable shackle to any country aspiring, with a chance of success, to hold its own in the world market.
Notice how he won't respond. I quoted this exact document during the election when the same band of trolls were like "MAGA is anti imperialist! Trump tariff is proletarian policy!" and other stupid time wasting brainrot bullshit

>>2418061
mamdani for president

>>2417973
I feel like we should be concerned about this more than we currently are

>>2418071
>you guys hear about abundance liberalism
It’s such a pathetic rebrand it’s not even funny. The name sucks total balls as well. Abundance has already been achieved, it’s just that the majority of the population can’t partake in said abundance.

>>2418078
Absolutely

>>2418078
American politics is defined by laziness more than anything. Turning America into Cambodia would take too much effort.

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we're reaching simulacrum levels which shouldn't even be theoretically possible

>>2418088
LIVE FOREVER AS YOU ARE NOW

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>>2417973
>tl;dr they're going to send blacks and political dissidents to forced agricultural labor to make up for the lack of migrant farm workers
already a thing boss

>>2418088
The sadder thing here is that his parents created an AI chatbot of him to be able to talk to their dead son…jesus that's grim. The west will not survive this century.

>>2418093
Yeah but they'll be doing it a lot more conspicuously, especially in cities with historical black majorities like DC. They'll gather the "inner city thugs", homeless, queers, and maybe a few political dissidents pers city and dump them in a concentration camp originally meant for migrants. All coming in the next couple of months!

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>>2417977
umm its wellness camps you freaking chud. the farm work will heal them.

>>2418095
the saddest thing is that people give any credibility to the garbage generative models shit out

>>2418098
american version of roman servile wars when

>>2418102
THE ORACLE SPEAKS! MAGIC IS REAL!

>>2418099
Right I forgot that Haz and pals share the exact same views on cities that reactionaries do where they need to be forcefully depopulated and burned down because they're shrines of decadence or something stupid like that. Good to know at least that when I'm put on a chain gang in the fields at Camp Skibidi being whipped for failing the cotton quota by some latinx neo nazi who goes by LoliCunnyRapist1488 on twitter that self proclaimed communists will still be here to tell me how it's actually a good thing and I deserve it

>>2418109
>Good to know at least that when I'm put on a chain gang in the fields at Camp Skibidi being whipped for failing the cotton quota by some latinx neo nazi who goes by LoliCunnyRapist1488 on twitter that self proclaimed communists will still be here to tell me how it's actually a good thing and I deserve it

>>2418114
Well I'm an anarchist so he already wants to kill me before anything else even though I share his desire to destroy the bourgeois state

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>>2417973
>People in the inner city are not farming
Wooooowwwww. What an insight Donald. Kinda in the very definition of the term. If there was farmland close to them, it wouldn't be the inner city.

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>"omg the government's gonna shut down"
Nothing.
Ever.
Happens.

>>2417994
This is fucking hilarious.

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>>2418044
>Whether you try the Protectionist or the Free Trade will make no difference in the end, and hardly any in the length of the respite left to you until the day when that end will come. For long before that day will protection have become an unbearable shackle to any country aspiring, with a chance of success, to hold its own in the world market.



>>2418153
Jack Thompson won


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>>2418166
just burgers chimping out that science is internationalist, as usual

>>2418163
I said a while ago that there was an interview where he was talking about Anita Sarkeesian and you could kind of see the gears turning: "Wait, she's doing this better than me."

No big shock about this.

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>>2418140
I think there is growing cynicism around work for its own. The protestant ethic has taken a hit.

>>2418197
more americans are converting to catholicism.

>>2418175
yeah but jack won because we're doing chud censorship now instead of woke censorship

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>>2418179
hindutvas really be wilding out 24/7

>>2417179
Kek

>>2417413
Very based, yes

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>>2419289
>Very based, yes
Finally someone appreciates good music. And I probably know who you are because no one appreciates good music on this site.

>>2417403
Many such cases


>>2419296
That's the one I was talm bout. I did a search for "hillary clinton raped me" and found that other one instead.

>>2417994
Why does he stand

Why does he stand

How do girl get pregnant

>>2418109
>Camp Skibidi
Chuckled

>>2417959
>>2417942
I explicitly said that there's a genocide going on in Palestine, to which you reply by accusing me of zionism. Are you sane?

>>2419309
it's a derail tactic these days to just play the role of grand inquisitor


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