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>>2414736 >>2416417I am literally talking that the ones doing the genocide are the ones that must stop, and that's the US, not zionists, not other Arabs nations.
faggot.
you want to held accountable the Arabs nations as a gotcha for the meme you laughed at, when the US are the ones carrying the genocide in the ME.
absolutely disgusting piece of shit.
protip: one of the Muslim nations that backed up China's security policy, is Indonesia, one of the countries doing the ICJ lawsuit.
but probably that's not enough for you.
WASHINGTON, Aug 4 (Reuters) - U.S. states and cities that boycott Israeli companies will be denied federal aid for natural disaster preparedness, the Trump administration has announced, tying routine federal funding to its political stance.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency stated in grant notices posted on Friday that states must follow its "terms and conditions." Those conditions require they certify they will not sever “commercial relations specifically with Israeli companies” to qualify for funding.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-links-19-billion-state-disaster-funds-israel-boycott-stance-2025-08-04/>>2416437it's not just about redistributing the existing wealth of the haute bourgeoisie, it's also about ending a mode of production that has built into it the deliberate destruction of the productive forces and the revolt against the machine. Capitalists are the modern luddites and actually hold back the productive forces because too many productive forces reduces the prices of commodities, especially means of subsistence to near zero. They throw perfectly good food in locked dumpsters. They buy up patents and sit on them.
3:00 onwards is relevant.
A Miami Twp. man was arrested by FBI agents for allegedly making a racially motivated social media post threatening to kill tens of thousands of people in Cincinnati this weekend.
Scott Michael Hanna, 30, was charged with making an interstate communication with a threat to injure after posting on X, formerly known as Twitter, about organizing mobs to kill ’30k’ by Sunday.
Hanna’s post tagged both Ohio Governor Mike DeWine and the Ohio State Highway Patrol and appears to be about the viral video that showed a large group of people targeting and attacking a couple.
Hanna was accused of saying he was working to organize mobs to kill thousands, according to an FBI spokesperson and federal court documents obtained by News Center 7.
According to federal court documents, police were already familiar with Hanna due to previous incidents at his home on Orchard Run Road. On Sept. 11, 2024, Hanna had called 911 and threatened to kill a woman.
“While (police were) enroute, Hanna called dispatch and requested to speak with a detective and told them if they were not going to charge a specified individual then he was going to cut off her head,” FBI investigators said in federal court documents obtained by News Center 7.
Hanna was accused of using a racial slur towards an officer during his arrest in September, federal investigators said in court documents.
https://www.whio.com/news/local/miami-twp-man-charged-with-threatening-organize-mobs-kill-30000-people-cincinnati/>>2416595Who said anything about jews? People are pointing out israeli influence in the goverment.
Why does one country get to conduct genocides not only in gaza, but now in US cities that boycott said gazan genocide?
lmao wtf is this
>The State Department is proposing requiring applicants for business and tourist visas to post a bond of up to $15,000 to enter the United States, a move that may make the process unaffordable for many.
>In a notice to be published in the Federal Register on Tuesday, the department said it would start a 12-month pilot program under which people from countries deemed to have high overstay rates and deficient internal document security controls could be required to post bonds of $5,000, $10,000 or $15,000 when they apply for a visa.
>The proposal comes as the Trump administration is tightening requirements for visa applicants. Last week, the State Department announced that many visa renewal applicants would have to submit to an additional in-person interview, something that was not required in the past. In addition, the department is proposing that applicants for the Visa Diversity Lottery program have valid passports from their country of citizenship.https://apnews.com/article/state-department-visa-bond-d532b186abf6e39c621d1bd0995d7509The Department of Homeland Security is looking to boost its deployment of the military on the streets of the U.S. in order to help carry out Donald Trump’s immigration policies, according to a leaked memo written by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s brother.
The document, obtained by The New Republic, details plans for how the Trump administration could use the military to assist with domestic law enforcement as part of its mass deportation agenda for “years” to come.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/leaked-memo-from-pete-hegseths-brother-reveals-plot-to-ramp-up-military-use-in-the-us/>>2416681lmao let's just crush any tourism to this country, as if getting a visa wasn't hard as fuck in of itself in the first place. I just hope these fucks don't make the K1-visa more difficult than it already is or I will have to move to latin america to live with my fiance (which might be better but RIP career and finances)
>>2416704fucking stupid but they already deployed marines and national guard so it's not like much more will change. Fuck this fascist country tho
here's how bernie can still win
>>2416601We already know about the Hibernian menace, anon.
>>2416681based, fuck turistoids
>>2416704why is the brother of an afficial involved in policy to begin with
Marjorie Taylor Greene says Republican party has lost touch with its base
Georgia congresswoman says she has no plans to leave Republican fold but urges party to support ‘America first’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/04/marjorie-taylor-greene-republican-partySpeaker Johnson Calls Illegally Occupied West Bank 'Integral Part' of Israel
"International law is completely unambiguous on this question," said one critic. "What settlers call 'Judea and Samaria' is the legal property of the Palestinians—Israel has zero legal claim to the land."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/mike-johnson-west-bank>>2416870please sack all the competent people
please please please
President Donald Trump’s eldest sons are involved in a new business venture aimed partly at “revitalizing American manufacturing” as their father pursues protectionist economic policies with the same goal.
New America Acquisition I Corp, a blank-check firm backed by Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr., on Aug. 4 filed for an initial public offering of up to $300 million.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/08/04/donald-trump-jr-eric-trump-manufacturing-spac-crypto/85510237007/>>2416931he's popular because he's trying to grift all the dissident tendencies simultaneously:
1. Christians mad at secular liberal society
2. Marxists mad at dehumanizing capitalist society
3. JQers mad at le ZOG
4. Anti-genocide protesters mad at Israel
Fuentes is basically saying all these groups should team up against the government and worry about each other later on.
Of course he is much more aligned with 1 and 3 than he is with 2 and 4.
Rep. Burgess Owens, who filed bankruptcy 5 times, tells struggling student borrowers to get a second job
Utah Republican also falsely claims foreign countries pay for tariffs
https://www.utahpoliticalwatch.news/rep-burgess-owens-who-filed-bankruptcy-5-times-tells-struggling-student-borrowers-to-get-a-second-job/>>2416930Thank you Petah
Thank you Stewie
>>2416911anyone who tolerates fascists is a fascist themselves.
it's pretty telling that you'd rather have 10 more admitted national socialists than one marxist-leninist.
>>2416930f
asteriskkicking
>>2416823These guys are soyteens they are not related to him in any way.
>>2416911Correct.
I often disagree with him too and he's a bit full of himself but he's also one the good poster on the site.
>>2416952>>2416930>>2416960someone tried to tell you that shooting was both based and exactly what the left should be doing and you all treated them like they're crazy.
>>2416963oh no he wasn't there to shoot THIS evil billionaire, but rather the evil billionaires who operate the gambling mafia that runs on irreparable brain trauma.
based is based is based.
>>2416963it doesn't add up
the shooter merk'd the security guards but then spared a woman and let her out of the elevator so he wasn't on some random spree. It's pretty clear he was targeting the Blackstone (not blackrock) CEO and the NFL thing is an obvious red herring
Also of suspicion is how these mass shooter always have hazy histories, e.g. the Butler PA Trump shooter. You're telling me that it's just a coincidence that the narrative of these shooters are always cloudy and seem to serve a certain bourgeois narrative?
Abundance for the 99 Percent
Abundance is the precondition of socialism, but socialism is also the precondition of abundance.
https://jacobin.com/2025/08/klein-thompson-abundance-liberalism-socialism>>2417014Yeah I'll read a 400 page book and formulate a response in 5 minutes, that's totally practical. Shoving a book in my face is not an argument. Make your own fucking argument pussy.
>libI'm a nationalist.
>>2417021sure but the narrative went from fighting against housing crisis leeches to a mentally ill dude who thinks he was in the NFL. Stop spreading CIA propaganda
>>2417025you're spreading CIA propaganda retard. You think the news story being memory holed is some sort of coincidence? It's fucking obvious that porky and glowy didn't want a Luigi copycat
>>2416974all NFL executives should be shot, too. the NFL is a mafia that turns brain trauma and gambling debt into profit.
>>2417007i don't really care who he was targeting, the people he shot all deserved it.
>>2417035I'm not defending the fucking NFL man, just pointing out that you're all falling for a psyop intended to memory hole the story.
Also the security guards didn't deserve their death you fucking child
>>2417036I wasn't whom you were replying to but complaining about reading is midwit shit
>>2417037The narrative was crafted to distract from the story and memory hole the incident. How you fucks can't see this is mind boggling
>>2417031he didn't ask you to read and formulate an answer after 5 minutes. reactoid bug. and yes, read Losurdo.
and yes, you are lib.
to say libs aren't racist is to be a lib.
>>2417041(1) It was BlackStone not blackrock
(2) I'm talking about the general public here. People are still talking about Luigi, whereas this dude got memory holed. Discussion on this random obscure forum doesn't count
>>2417042read more uygha and then you won't get caught off guard
>>2417046I guess all proletarians are "pigs" for working for the bourgeoisie and we should just kill everybody then
retard
>>2417051>How exactly are white liberals as racist as white nationalistsby being part of the same structural system they control under the demokkkratic party.
you seem to be a new
fagfriend, even for USApol standards. the fact that don't know that:
a) the democratic party in the south was main political force against Lincoln
b) Still today repeat the mantra about immigration stealing jobs (to the point John Stewart did a complete skit on demokkkrappers doing the same punchline that rethuglancs do, the same way the republican party) which is racist on itself.
c) that it was under a demokkkrap president, "black American" with a "black American" General Attorney both liberals, that stop and frisk, bussing and other police tactics applied to black Americans
skyrocketed to alarming levels.
shows me you are:
Not American.
A new arrival.
Lurk moar, before making fool out of yourself saying
>libs aren't racists. >>2417051>>2417071 (me)
and yes, read the fucking book. Losurdo is insanely based.
>>2417071>by being part of the same structural systemBecause the system shares some accidents with a previous racist system that means that it's racist? Ridiculous
>the democratic party in the south was main political force against Lincoln150 years ago maybe
>Still today repeat the mantra about immigration stealing jobsOkay but that's just true though lol.
Let me make it simple for you. Liberals support affirmative action, and support a tax system that (objectively) takes from whites and gives money to minorities. "Police tactics" or whatever are fringe policies in most people's daily life experience.
>Not AmericanI am American, I'm just right wing.
> "Police tactics" or whatever are fringe policies in most people's daily life experience. >le this fringeabsolutely stupid. the whole American culture is based on joking about how horrible, dangerous even, is for black Americans to interact with the police. the US has the largest NET and % to population rate of incarcerated people on earth
and this is "fringe".
gee no wonder no one takes these
>>2417079 people seriously.
>>2417032>sure but the narrative went from fighting against housing crisis leeches to a mentally ill dude who thinks he was in the NFL. Stop spreading CIA propaganda1. I wasn't the same anon saying he was targeting the NFL CEOs
2. I'm saying if he was that's fine too
3. the NFL narrative is that he was bitter at the NFL for perpetuating and profiting from CTE brain damage in young men, not that he literally imagined he was in the NFL
>>2417087you can't counter the argument, libs are racist. most of those people under the prison system (jails, penitentiaries) are from poor black and brown communities, despite whites that whites get twice as much arrested cases as blacks.
this is 100% racism, and Obunga and his AG, both liberals, perpetuated this.
>>2417105Honestly if casinos are still going to be used under a socialist and/or anarchist territory then they're going to have to be heavily remodeled. As they are right now, casinos in Vegas especially are confusing labyrinths which lack windows or accurate directions in favor of stuffing it full of panhandlers. The architecture within is worth preserving for some of them at least, but that shit can serve any number of purposes.
Really the question of what to do with Las Vegas is a fun hypothetical problem for communists that serves as a template for other urban areas with large service industries
>>2417022I said America First is the slogan of nationalist chauvinism which is compatible with the larger project of American imperialism, not necessarily neocon zionism specifically. It is the slogan of plundering the world and stealing the oil and of purging the leftists. You go "oohhh but israel doesn't benefit us" even if that were true America First
only deviates from the neocon consensus on the issue of Israel and nothing else. They still hate China for example and want to coup Latin American countries. To the extent that it is "isolationist" it is only to recoup lost internal stability to better wage future imperialism, not to put an end to the empire itself. The empire wants to withdraw into its shell so it can heal, not so it can stop terrorizing the world forever. You confuse the opportunist national chauvinist self-imposed isolationism of the MTGs and Fuenteses of the right with the capitalist-imposed isolation of a country like Cuba or a North Korea.
>>2417130and you are still wrong as picture shows, because fucking whites commit more misdemeanors and felonies in % terms compared to the other groups, and yet it's the other groups that overwhelmingly populate prisons. it's the fucked up system which keep targeting blacks and browns, with attorneys, police officers, and judges actively prosecuting the black and brown communities over the white community.
you prefer to run to say that liberals aren't racist, because some "muh liberals give money to black communities" (no evidence provided), you refuse to fucking read a book, and what's the result? you prefer to talk shit, without evidence, on stuff
we know much better than you do, to prove that you are also racist, and also a fucking ignorant.
ffs, try again when you humble yourself.
>>2417151>muh liberals give money to black communities" (no evidence provided),The fucking government is the evidence
>to prove that you are also racistWell I could have told you that at the beginning lol. Your own data doesn't even back you up by the way. Whites are overrepresented in misdemeanors and underrepresented in violent crime as per your data. The black violent arrest rate is only 3 points away from the incarceration rate, and a three times overrepresentation of their population.
>>2417018>Medvedev knows about the piss tapeOh so now Russiagate is real? Pfeh. He's bluffing. A lot of bluff and bluster over there. Nixon was right about them. Dmitry Anatolyevich needs to dance to that Hardcore American Cowboy song imo
>>2416972>There is a revisionist attempt to pretend that the new national chauvinism is somehow separate from the old national chauvinism, that we bombed children in Vietnam for Israel instead of for ourselves. It's so pathetic … Why did it take retards like MTG (who is very wealthy compared to the average person) 10 years to "realize" that a literal billionaire real estate tycoon from new york wasn't in fact an "outsider". These people replaced "the crooked politicians" with the very same people bribing them. People have psyopped themselves into thinking the Obama-era liberalism which put everybody to sleep is the normal operating mode for capitalism and that Trump's version of it is anomalous, when most of his supporters actually see him as like mechareagan. Or maybe mechabrandon.
>>2417168Blacks receive more in welfare per capita than whites do. Blacks pay less in taxes per capita than whites. It's that simple.
>austeritylol
>>2417175Wow the left really hates discourse lol. I've been much better faith than I could've been and you still melt down when even talking to a right winger. I'm fine to admit that I just want what's best for my group, and that my beliefs contradict with leftist interests, but offering pushback is not "dismissing educated answers". Discourse really is dead.
>>2417176lol
>>2417172>Blacks receive more in welfare per capita than whites do. Blacks pay less in taxes per capita than whites. It's that simple.blacks also have proportionaly less income than whites and live on poorer, cheaper neighbourhoods, that's why they resceive welfare more than whites because they need it more.
> le austeritycutting welfare funds only damages poorer people, blacks are poorer so they feel more from it simple as.
>>2417158>The fucking government is the evidencet. no evidence.
I concede you are a moron.
>your own data doesn't even back you up by the wayt. I don't know how to read data.
the "underrepresented" numbers are a fraction compared on how underrepresented blacks are in the prison system. see? you conveniently look up for data irregularities when it suits you, but not when it goes against the narrative that indoctrinated you. compare the abs[61.6 (white ppl)-59.1 (violent crimes)]=2.5% "underepresented" you have with abs[12.4%(black population)-41.0%(in prison)]= 28.6%
gently, insert yourself a knife in your butt. moron.
>>2417203That shill has been posting for atleast 3 hours now, thats the OP they created
>>2416645You can scroll through the thread and see him get more and more mask off until the final stage of the spergout is achieved
>>2417224I didn't put the full list. And as always who knows where this stupid global compiled autism score s comes from. To my knowledge there is no global autism score testing org making these stats for every country.
https://www.thecaliforniacourier.com/average-autism score-by-country-2025-update/
>>2417184>CPUSAnon in every post I've seen of them is like 95% reasonable with the other 5% being due to their understandable frustration with idpol and how it's been metabolized by certain sections of the American left.Way back in the day, Agent Felix and all the "Read Settlers" types would have been banned for shitting up the board. The shit they promote is literally everything Leftypol was founded to oppose.
>>2417191It's very telling how /pol/yps start out with this "We're ackshyully on the same side" bullshit and end up spouting literal Bell Curve talking points.
>>2417201>why does you want me to be concerned about black people on welfare when the government takes all my money and uses it to genocide palestinians and create so much resentment in the third world that they all grow up chanting death to amerikkka?They believe that the only legitimate use of government is incarcerating and killing the poor, so they don't have a problem with that.
>>2417283I have never told anyone to read J. Edgar SaKKKai or any other anarKKKist works. What I want you to read is LENIN. Particularly State and Revolution, where he tells you exactly what to do and how to do it.
If you do not support the smashing of the state by the armed body of the proletariat you are NOT A COMMUNIST. Simple as.
>>2417337the rags to riches ones were probably smart because they had to go from rags to riches. That takes brains.
The generations after that….not so much
>>2417352Maybe the funniest part of the Q schizophrenia is this imagined idea that once martial law is declared and literally all functions of civilized society shut down, their kids are gonna be crawling back all “we’re sorry, enlighten us gram gram!” Or, yknow, just accept “Oh yeah Hillary ate a baby and Trump’s gonna execute her right now.”
Like if martial law is declared cause of Q conspiracies, people are just gonna riot. No one is gonna sit down and say “I guess they were really right”, which is all they really want.
>>2417392>Or, yknow, just accept “Oh yeah Hillary ate a baby and Trump’s gonna execute her right now.”I know a couple that wears MAGA merch regularly and believes Hillary eats babies. They have a whole story that someone they knew (or someone they knew who knew this person) worked in Washington and met her and saw literal demons come out of her ears and fly away. I'm not making this up. They believe that the libs are a Satanic cabal who practice sorcery.
I'm just, like, wow that's crazy. Tell me more.
The husband was a Huey pilot in Vietnam. I'll just ask him questions about that. I'd ask him about how to dodge ground fire, and he'd blank out for an uncomfortably long amount of time like he was spacing out and having a flashback, and then he'd snap to and be like "oh it was pretty easy because of the lead" (pronounced "leed" like when you're shooting at a moving target).
They're actually nice people, but they're crazy.
>>2417348Yknow Gavin Newsom threatening to, essentially, kill the moribund Republican Party out here if this gerrymander goes through is some clever politicking. The Chapos have been talking for a while about politics gradually devolving into “how will you hurt the other side” but up until recently it’s felt like Dems won’t throw a punch. The Republicans will shit in their mouth and they’ll just cry “we need to go back to the party of John McCain!” Gruesome Newsom so far is just saying “well everything you do I’ll do back to you.”
He’s a neoliberal, but I think we’re watching what his strategy will be for the next presidential primaries. Shit at this rate I’m not gonna be surprised if he just says he’s gonna arrest Trump’s whole family if elected. There won’t be any progressive policy, but he could probably beat progressive contenders with the promise of terrorizing the chuds.
>>2417430he can be (though tbf it's clips). It seems that he is kinda holding back due to the recent uptick in mainstream attention, plus the propaganda brigade of Klein, Gusano and Diddy Saltman. Though he always had a problem of explaining shit. Remember him kinda waffling during debate with Fuentes, Destiny, and Akkad.
>>2417431It's funny since they are clamoring for a "Joe Rogan of the left". I do feel like the 'left', Liberals , DemSocs, hell comunnists need to take the stick out of their asses.
>>2417402I had a Vet come through my line that kind of went through some "trauma dump" (for lack of a better word) where he basically said America should've just developed Vietnam instead of trying to bomb it and how awful the things they did there was. Nice enough guy, but him talking about napalm at the register was pretty awkward.
That said, I've had a few Q-folks come into the store. I think COVID unironically killed a lot of them off (one older couple was telling us to never ever get the vaccine). One was smiling from ear to ear because he claimed that Trump was gonna release the medbeds soon and that the treatments can de-age you (for a maximum of three times) so he's already reserved a ticket for his wife and him to return to their twenties. Wild shit.
>>2417423>>2417431>>2417437Define "The Left" in this case, 'cause I guess Cenk Uygur could've maybe been that type of persona for the libs, but I think the problem is the whole personality plays on a mix of entertainment and aggrievement. It's a dude commuting to his shitty job, listening to the AM radio, and hearing some guy talk about how Nancy Pelosi is saying immigrants are just better workers than Americans or whatever. It's the kind of thing where you're glowering, you get a simmering anger worked up, and then the radio host says something like: "Well it ain't PC, but I don't think the country will fall apart if we kick out all these goddamn mexicans!" To which the listener, maybe after knocking back a few beers or maybe while melting in his car, just nods and grumbles "Yer goddamn right."
It needs at least some element of performative cruelty or callousness to work. It requires going with a kind of flow, speaking to peoples' libidinal impulses, and I'm sorry but if there's one term I wouldn't use to describe the Left out here, it's "libidinal". If you say "man, they're fucking hardworking Americans over" you'll get thirty responses like:
>"Um, the Left isn't just about AMERICA you know?">"They're fucking WORKERS over. The proletariat has no country.">"Using the phrase 'fucking over' is part of rape culture.">"Americans DESERVE it for what they did in X!"It requires letting loose, just saying fuck it. Saying you're unequivocally being fucked and you don't deserve it.
Honestly Hasan's problem is he is doing AOC-lite. Like he will go further in shitting on the Dems. And rightfully doesn't just push the Agent Kochinski line of "YOU HAVE TO VOTE DEMOCRAT". But man, he needs to take a page out of Fuentes' notebook and pull a groyper war on Dems. The fact he isn't directing his fans to go to townhalls and other things and push Dems on Gaza, etc. But at best, he says help with this strike, help campaign if you can. Sure that's nice. But you would think directly attacking that institution would be better
>>2417439Nick is in a weird place. He has in some way been vindicated in rhetoric. Look at the OG groyper war and where Con Inc stood with all his shit. Now they parrot it. And even if they won't go as far on Israel, younger conservatives are moving that way. But he still doesn't have that much sway. Like when he shits on Trump, it doesn't move MAGA. Or even younger cons. It seems his success is mainly in the media world
>>2417440Haz is a funny case because he had that personality ala Alex Jones. His most viral moment being a Wow Mao video. But he seems to have mellowed out and you don't really see that same energy. I think he is trying for Jackson Hinkle
>>2417442Cenk does have a claim.
>mix of entertainment and aggrievement.I think you are overthinking it. Like yeah, it's easy to blame the Mexicans and shit. Just as easy to blame the millionaires and billionaires. The elites. Like I mean, you talk as if leftists can't be cruel or callous when tehy can be. Obviously to things like Israel and the pedo elite. I do agree that can be this higher than though feeling on the left but this wasn't always the case
>>2417445Nick has an outsized cultural impact, just the way people think about jews has changed as everyone is trying to compete with him.
Also people in influential positions are listening to him and being emboldened by him. He's basically influencing the influencers.
Hasan could never and has never laid out a radical argument like this, Nick does it every day of the week without trying.
>>2417450>I think you are overthinking it. Like yeah, it's easy to blame the Mexicans and shit. Just as easy to blame the millionaires and billionaires. The elites. Like I mean, you talk as if leftists can't be cruel or callous when tehy can be. Obviously to things like Israel and the pedo elite. I do agree that can be this higher than though feeling on the left but this wasn't always the caseEhhh for me, I think conservatives really "ride the wave" of the hate and just roll with it uncritically, by contrast the left is hypercritical. Like an example I go back to is saying people who don't put their shopping cart away are animals and I was inundated with "Well what about disabled people?" "Why do you hate animals?" on and on and on it goes.
>>2417452Eh, I hang out with some right-leaning people every now and then. I don't think I'm that out of the loop. Thing is I think by its nature a "communist disc jockey" type would have to really edit how they speak, you know they'd be maybe talking about "the rich" and "corporations" over straight up "capitalism" if only because that just works better for the format.
>>2417465Lenin was also in Tsarist Russia where the majority of people were oppressed by the imperialist state, rather than America, where the majority of the people are beneficiaries of it. It's all about taking what Marx and Lenin said and applying it to your own material conditions, instead of just slavishly assuming that history will unfold exactly the same as it has before.
>>2417469You certainly do hang out with some "right leaning people" and I'm sure they say the same when they hang out with you, fascist.
>>2417442>It needs at least some element of performative cruelty or callousness to work. It requires going with a kind of flow, speaking to peoples' libidinal impulses, and I'm sorry but if there's one term I wouldn't use to describe the Left out here, it's "libidinal".This stuff has never really worked for the left, and it's probably down to something deeper in the politics just being different. I also suspect that a left which does the same kind of stuff that you see right-wing demagogues do, it will cease being the left and become… something else. It's like Jimmy Dore, he's just a conservative now. Usually when I see leftists going down this road, well, okay that guy is going to become a right-wing grifter in six months and they always do.
The right is all opportunism and trying to use whatever tactics they have on hand that lets them dominate the immediate situation. They can use whatever slogans if it helps them in the pursuit of that goal. Theory is not their strong suit, and they're at ease with lying and it doesn't bother them. If they're revealed to be bullshitters, the most important thing is that this happens once they're already in power and have the police at their disposal to put a boot up your ass.
Antisemitism?
Nick Fuentes is totally mixing things up by adding that into the pot! It's nonsense. That's how they get you. They have no scruples adding that into their mix of a dozen different banners which they're flying at any given time. One of those banners can even have the words "socialism" written on it. If it gains them a certain number of allies, that's what they'll do. The overall coalition can be totally contradictory and it doesn't matter to them.
The left, meanwhile, as I see it, is something which has no sense of sanctity towards any existing historical situation, or the opinion of the majority, or prejudgements. It's not like you do things which contradict your own premises (an extreme example would be killing kids or whatever in the pursuit of your goals). But a lot of right-wing populist rhetoric is wrapped up in arrrgh this THING which we hold SACRED is yada yada, and you're supposed to sit there and listen and seethe and get some catharsis through this vessel that you're watching.
But the right has great strengths because it's so flexible like that. That said, an important function of the left can be to expose the right for what it actually is. This is especially the case in international politics where it's very obvious. Because once the people they shill for get into actual power, they "betray" them and go MechaBrandon and give more weapons to Israel. Orban is a big Israel guy. The AfD in Germany if they take over the German government will be even more pro-Israel than anybody else in Germany. Eventually Trump will go away and they'll find somebody else like Josh Hawley and you'll have right-wing zoomers for Hawley telling you that you're a Jew if you're not for Hawley, and it'll happen all over again.
>>2417430>Hasan doesn't have the talent. Fuentes is like Macho Man level fire on the micwhat's with all the fuentard dickriders
who can barely keep their masks on
Suckers idolizing mediocre penis
>>2417490I think they are doing an astroturf blitzkrieg to keep his name circulating in the news. I think that is why Fuentes posting has become so prevalent. It is likely a Private Equity management team that is doing a lot of the posting, maybe using some sort of customized AI.
>>2417463Fuentes:
<how come jews get their own special word for offending their sensibilities? No other race gets that. If you're racist against other races it's just called racism but that's universal, only Jews get their own special word, antisemitism.well to be fair it wasn't coined by jews but by a guy named Wilhelm Marr to describe his own anti-jewish political ideology. however it is true that jewish supremacists have basically adopted the word as a thought-terminating cliche meant to shut down anyone criticizing them. also even though other races don't "get their own special word" we see similar efforts in practice. For example in the 00s there was controversy over a buildboard that went up in one of the southern states that basically said "anti racism is a code word for anti white".
>>2417493You are sectarian libtard who slanders anti-zionist nick fuentes.
>And then just pretend they didn't play any role in this, You are a biden voter lmao. Kill yourself
>>2417505I don't know about w, but the guy clearly said, "that's it, I'm killing myself" then presumably picked up a gone.
>1 he was going to shoot himself anyways
>2I think the cops are in their right to shoot people when they clearly pickup a gun. He just as easily could've changed his mind in a split second and decided to kill the cop first, and go murder-suicide someone else or some shit.
>>2417502Haha dumb loser
>>2417517>Are we really humoring a dipshit who thinks Nick Fuentes is single-handedly responsible for shifts in public opinionIt's hard to believe that anyone left of Biden is falling for this shit. I mean, at least tucker Carlson is reasonably capable and has all the access of being proper glowie. But this dumb twink is just a more explicitly Nazi version of Destiny. He's only popular because his mediocrity makes his platform seem approachable.
>>2417487Wow, you just did exactly what I warned against, good job.
You are treating Marxism like a religion instead of a science. Rather than treating every word of Marx and Lenin like word of god, it must be treated like a tool which allows us to understand history and solve problems. The America of today is a far cry from the America of Marx's time 200 years ago. It is a planet killing imperialist mega power now. American imperialism is quite literally an existential threat to human civilization. It must be destroyed or the world cannot ever live in peace.
You are quoting from a speech Marx gave before Lenin had even written his theory of Imperialism and acting as if it is some gospel truth which exactly predicts what is to be done today.
This is anti-dialectical and anti-Marxist. Go read State and Revolution and you will understand the essence of what I am saying. The imperialist state must be smashed and destroyed by the armed body of the proletariat. There is no other way to defeat it for good.
>>2417522This is coming from Felix the realist lol.
What Marx was saying was limited to America and England and perhaps Holland would be extended to most nations across the world. Yes people can succeed with the democratic process. You will not be able to beat the US military with a minority of the populace. If the militaries were OP then, they are way more OP now.
So what he said is not outdated in the sense that "workers attaining their goals by peaceful means" is not possible or less possible now, it's possible in way more places than America, England, and Holland.
>>2417528You will always need some form of military support to back up a revolution. All those peaceful transitions Marx pointed out as possibilities would take the military being so influenced by local mores and traditions they would stand to the side and support the idea of worker's democratic will instead of the bourgeoisie. But would the current American military of today do that?
Also this isn't blindly advocating fighting the military which would be a disaster. Leftists will need to appeal to soldiers and get some of them on our side so we don't get completely cub stomped no matter what happens.
>>2417476>America, where the majority of the people are beneficiaries of it.I don't think I benefit one bit from my government taxing me to genocide Palestinians and destroy their schools, hospitals, factories, farms instead of building american schools, hospitals, factories, farms. I have yet to understand how I "benefit" from my government killing millions in my name and making millions more grow up to despise me and lump me in with my government (rightfully so I suppose because I didn't risk my life to stop them).
<umm like the banana is cheaper or somethingI think if we were building schools, hospitals, factories, and farms here instead of destroying schools, hospitals, factories and farms and families elsewhere, more expensive banana would be a small price to pay, and banana would probably actually be less expensive since the development of productive forces decreases the price of commodities by reducing the socially necessary labor time required for their production while imperialist war deliberately destroys the productive forces to create artificial scarcity and maintain bourgeois dictatorship.
reposted because typo >>2417556It's less benefit and more that growth in the imperial core comes at the expense of stagnation in the periphery.
I don't think it's reasonable to assert workers profit off of the monopsony rents (lower wages) extracted from the periphery. I do think that profit overtop of what goes towards maintenance/reproduction of the imperial core largely comes from the periphery.
Due to the falling rate of profit, capitalism tends to reach crises of overproduction. There is a low rate of profit and more is produced than the proles can afford to buy. State-monopoly capital delays the crisis with rent and interest, monopsony rent specifically targeting the periphery and externalizing disaster and crises of overproduction to the periphery.
I don't think that the workers in the imperial core drain wealth from the periphery. I do think that the imperial core only produces just enough for the social reproduction of capital. IMO it's the expansion and growth of the imperial core which is parasitic on the periphery.
If the periphery is hell then the imperial core is purgatory I guess.
>>2417566>It's less benefit and more that growth in the imperial core comes at the expense of stagnation in the periphery.How does America destroying schools, hospitals, factories and farms in far away lands help us grow? All it does is stop other people from growing. It doesn't help us grow. It just ensures that a larger and larger percentage of our annual GDP goes into war making. Instead of building schools and hospitals we're makign bombs to destroy the schools and hospitals of Palestinians. I'll ask again, how does that benefit anyone but the American bourgeoisie? Particularly the military industrial complex.
>I don't think it's reasonable to assert workers profit off of the monopsony rents (lower wages) extracted from the periphery. I do think that profit overtop of what goes towards maintenance/reproduction of the imperial core largely comes from the periphery.I ask again. How does genociding people all over the world help ups maintain or reproduce ourselves? Every dollar that goes into keeping them down could be spent on lifting us up instead. It's a completely false dilemma. The imperial core bourgeoisie fear the periphery catching up with THEM specifically so they turn to US, the workers in the imperial core and they use national chauvinism. They say "We're all in this together. If China gets too good at making solar panels and computer chips, that hurts YOU just as much as it hurts us." I think that's BULLSHIT.
>>2417585Krav
Maga is an Israeli form of martial arts
>>2417543I thought he was supposed to be the Chud.
>>2417541>>2417526What are you looking for someone to do a podcast with?
>I've had a couple customers tell me I've got "a good voice for radio"I heard your voice that one time you uploaded reading that article comparing Lenin to Trump. I was about to do it too.
Who else do we need in there. Gay Nazi. Houdini. Guest starring Felix from the frontlines. We need more diversity. It's too honkoid status.
>>2417528You ignore all of Lenin for one sentence of Marx and think this makes you reasonable. It makes you a zealot, a zealot for the bourgeois empire that oppresses the world. When have workers achieved their goal, a dictatorship of the proletariat, through bourgeois democracy? Where has it happened? No "democratic" socialist movement has even come close. In every case their power has been gradually eroded by the constant profit pressure of capitalism eating away at regulations and public entities to make up for the continuation of the rate of profit to decline.
You cannot use bourgeois democracy to dismantle bourgeois democracy because the system exists to further bourgeois interests and the bourgeoisie control all the power, the bodies of armed men empowered to do violence, who act on their behalf.
What you propose, in practice, is subordinating yourself to the bourgeois system and forms of struggle which are acceptable to bourgeois power. You become reformists fighting for more crumbs on the table as the bourgeoisie continue to rape and pillage the world, slowly building a coalition which can at best use the spoils of imperialism to buy Americans free healthcare in fifty years if your lucky.
We don't have that sort of time. The system which you love so much you would never see it harmed is killing the world. Soon the planet is going to be hostile to human life. Of course the poor in the developing world will suffer more from this than you, just as they always have, and so you don't care. But it will come home to you sooner rather than later.
The only way out is to smash the state, and do it now. Free healthcare is meaningless on a dying earth.
But I think you know this. Deep down you realize it. You just know that you'll probably be dead before it gets really bad, and you're perfectly happy seeing entire nations sink into the sea just as long as you can have a comfy life. This is the apotheosis of liberalism. The complete, bloodless inhumanity of it all. You don't have the courage to kill yourself, so you let the system do it for you. As long as it benefits you, your family, and your precious nation, you are willing to tolerate any monstrosity.
>>2417798>Where were you then, Burger?Here is a short accounting of my politics since the age of 10:
Bush era: "these wars are bad for everyone except MIC"
Obama era: "these wars are bad for everyone except MIC"
Trump era: "these wars are bad for everyone except MIC"
Biden era: "these wars are bad for everyone except MIC"
Trump 2 era: "these wars are bad for everyone except MIC"
>>2417814Seriously. When the fuck is this shit going to stop? This uncanny, inhuman slop is being force fed down everyone's throats solely to generate fake profits for fake companies making fake everything. Any time I go on my phone it asks if I want to use Gemini to do shit I can do myself. I go on YouTube and it summarizes comments unprompted, as I'm stuck watching an AI ad with an AI voice promoting AI tools to create AI businesses. I see ads in real life that are AI generated because someone couldn't be bothered to hire someone to draw a picture of a cookie or something.
Get these fucking clankers out of my face.
>>2417858this
>>2417850it is a bunch of programmers in a trenchcoat that requires massive amounts of human-curated training data and has so many billions of parameterized inputs that it can go haywire for no reason unpredictably. also every AI company is essentially renting cloud services from amazon and other tech giants to keep it running. these startups go under as soon as the rent goes up. the rent is going up because the USA is in a trade war with the people who actually make the chips and hardware that the AI runs on
>>2417812A lot of those people are Evangelical Christians who have a whole complex around Israel. They have a tribal, religious attachment to Israel as foretold by prophecies and interlinked with nationalism. They want to immantize the eschaton basically and see America as given to them by God, that the nation is uniquely blessed by God, and they view a Jewish homeland in the Middle East in similar terms. If you've never been around this culture it's hard to believe people take this stuff seriously but they do. There are other factors like arms sales and U.S. regional control and so on, but it's a factor. A lot of them serve in the military, watch/play baseball, have nostalgia for the frontier and cowboys, and have a psychology that you might describe as an honor culture, which makes the trigger-happy cowboy diplomacy of Bush or Trump attractive to them.
This is the big plot twist of Jacksonian populism which also has isolationist tendencies. It does have that tendency, but Trump attacking Iran is also totally compatible because fuck the U.N. / we don't need their approval to defend American honor (because Iran supplied weapons that killed our troops when we occupied Iraq… which we did because… well it wasn't WMDs it was… well why do you hate America?)
The Jewish population (around 40% of the world total) are more concentrated in/around New York and New Jersey, South Florida, and to some extent Los Angeles. (Smaller numbers in other places.)
>>2417876>shouldspooky moralism
>resignwe live in a bourgeois dictatorship, he is doing his job
That being said, if you want someone gone it's not a matter of asking them nicely.
>>2417878>MAGA reasserting its anti-imperialist credentialsreminder that MAGA is a national chauvinist movement which started because a billionaire came down a golden escalator and said mexicans are rapists and promised to bomb the middle east and take their oil to thunderous applause. the isolationist wing of MAGA is not about "anti-imperialism" it is about temporarily withdrawing America from certain aspects of imperialism in order to A: focus on an internal purge of the political left at home and B: heal and recover so it can be a better monster in the future. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either stupid or lying.
>>2417831No
>>2417864>i have a feeling it won't anytime soon. remember, ai can't strike, it can't ask for a raise, and it can't go on vacationIt also can’t do the job properly. Needs to be babysat to avoid it devolving into an incoherent mess, and even that doesn’t really work too well. It’s prone to hallucinations and generating complete junk. Corps jumped the gun on a technology in the middle of research, and now they’ve dedicated a cult to it.
>it is every corporation's dream to replace every worker possible with a dataset that does something without complaint or spits out some retarded ideaAnd it will remain a dream for them. They didn’t push their “ai” because they are rational or because they’re one step ahead of the average person. They pushed their “ai” because they’re desperate to not have to depend on the proletariat, and because they’re far too greedy for their own good. They drank their “magic elixir”, caring not if it poisons them later on.
>>2417850It’ll be sooner than that
>>2417881>national chauvinistLiberal buzzword that means nothing
>muh Drumpftler!!!Merely a figurehead and he never called all Mexicans rapists nor has he advocated for genocidal imperialism in Russia and the Middle East
>focus on an internal purge of the political left at homeConsidering leftism is anti-communist I fail to see why any of us should have an issue with this
>heal and recover so it can be a better monster in the futureNeocon cope that MAGA is happy to indulge for the time being to keep them from siding with the deep state
>>2417889>that's why pundits like Tucker don't want a war with China or Russiahis entire thing is that we should team up with godly conservative russia against godless communist china
this is a guy who started out wanting to join the contras
why do you take their sudden 180 degree pivot in rhetoric at face value? were you born after abu ghraib?
>>2417883First of all you haven said how people actually benefit from the MIC burning up all those resources for wars that achieved nothing. They don't get cheaper housing, food or healthcare, all those prices have gone up. The MIC is just wasting it all while transferring the money to some oligarchs and that drives up all the prices.
Also if all reserves are all tied to the MIC then it doesn't matters if people have reserves or not. If they save money then it goes to the MIC but if they don't save the money it still going to the MIC through someone else's reserves. So why would it matter at that point who has the reserves or doesn't?
>>2417881>reminder that MAGA is a national chauvinist movement which started because a billionaire came down a golden escalator and said mexicans are rapists and promised to bomb the middle east and take their oil to thunderous applause.The twist with a lot of the isolationist stuff on the right and "globalists / New World Order / cabal" that you'll hear from Alex Jones or in the more intellectual version of Tucker Carlson is that the U.S. pulling out of international institutions to focus on "America" can also help the U.S. be less restrained when it comes to international affairs. If we had to seek U.N. approval then we wouldn't have bombed Iran because the U.N. Security Council would've vetoed it.
The politics around this are usually going to be rather schizo. There are people on the right who don't like the wars and want the U.S. to pull back, but they don't want the U.S. to be subject to any kind of international system. You have to remember though that those Evangelicals who support Israel also think the United Nations is the devil, and that opposition to Israel in the United Nations is basically Antichrist as foretold by their prophecies.
Trump here is holding up an illustration by David Dees who can charitably be described as antisemitic and an isolationist. Dees died a few years ago but I doubt he would've approved of Trump bombing Iran or his support for Israel. But people would project onto Trump different things.
>>2417889>american conservatives are aware of the fact that better imperialist conditions, like the unipolar american hegemony of the last 30 years, are never coming backI think there's a difference in how people think about this in Washington and big swathes of the country. I mean people who work at think tanks, the CIA, the State Department and so forth. And then people who vote for Trump who go to church and focus on their jobs and families and so on. I think a lot of those conservatives wouldn't know what you're talking about if you said "unipolar American hegemony." It'd sound like weird commie talk to them. They don't think "I'm living in an empire and my treats are because of unipolar American hegemony." They live in a bubble and were behind Trump when he bombed Iran because they're told that they chant "death to America" over there and that makes them the bad guys.
The Evangelicals' social base has shrunk in relative terms because of urbanization and immigration (although it's also capable of converting immigrants to it, which is one of its strengths). But there are millions of these people, and they see themselves as like the core of the American nation, the ribcage and the heart, in their own imaginary. They exist across the country, their culture is hegemonic is swathes of the space, more so the more you leave the big cities, the further out you go.
They see immigration from people with different cultures and religions from their own as threatening and a loss to their hegemony, which is leading to the decline of the country, because they see their own relative loss of status and hegemony in the society as intertwined with national decline. Relative post-war prosperity in the 20th century also enabled the conditions for unity between conservative business elites and these middle-class people, which then split into a more educated professional middle class and a sinking lower-middle class which Trump exploited to MAGA.
>>2417932thank you for retreating from "MAGA is anti imperialist" you or the other anon I was originally arguing with before you showed up was putting forward to the much more reasonasble "the right is kinda divided Yo!" which ok yeah sure fine I agree with that. some of them have had a change of heart and only want to bomb children when it benefits america instead of israel.
btw remember that guy who got shot when the assassin missed trump? he said palestinians had it coming. glad he's dead. :^)
>>2417798It's always funny when these Zio concern trolls come in going:
>Why do Americans care so much about what Israel is doing in Gaza>Why are Americans so concerned with geopoliticslmao. Yes. Americans care way too much about foreign policy and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Everyone says it all the time.
>>2417954>unless you live as a beggar you benefit from Israel bombing children schools and hospitalswe have a new brand of retard:
>>2417798>What's up with Americans and the obsession with Israel, lol???The you are, like low key a Nazi if you mention Israel or Gaza right now. Highly sus. :^)
>>2417932>so not the entire movement. just admit the right is actually more ideologically divided than you thoughtThere are rightists with different ideas, sure, but issue is more that the right doesn't actually follow a coherent doctrine. They're not leftists who care a lot about ideology. The right is much more flexible, tactical, contradictory and… mostly they care about the pursuit of power and, like I said earlier, dominating the immediate situation and being emotional and reactive to things which they perceive as slights or constraints on them.
You go into the paleocons, isolationists and conspiracy theorists, you can hear all the time about how different international organizations are a threat to America, that the U.S. should reject participation in global institutions. But the plot twist, again, is that U.S. imperialism doesn't operate on what the rest of the world thinks anyways. "We should limit foreign entanglements" therefore the solution = tear up a bunch of treaties. Result = shape the conditions for the U.S. to engage in unilateral military action. "It's better for America to reject globalism and have Peace Through Strength." Result = all this glorification of strength and not listening to anybody else telling us what to do makes war more likely.
It's kind of like a paradox of intention, or the "Sorcerer's apprentice" or the "irony of history" or the Hegelian dialectic.
>>2417952>If I said "You know how America used to be the world police? That's not the case anymore" I think most people could understand that conceptYeah I think they could understand that. But I'm pretty sure most of them wouldn't have a problem with Trump bombing Iran. They didn't like the "world police" concept but they're fine with the unilateral use of American power wielded by a Republican president. Pretty sure.
>>2417925Funny how you avoided addressing the point and instead deflected to some comparison I never made.
So lets try again. How does the MIC wasting resources in pointless wars that achieve nothing somehow benefit workers in the core?
Engels was pro free trade
>Protection is at best an endless screw, and you never know when you have done with it. By protecting one industry, you directly or indirectly hurt all others, and have therefore to protect them too. By so doing you again damage the industry that you first protected, and have to compensate it; but this compensation reacts, as before, on all other trades, and entitles them to redress, and so on ad infinitum. American history, in this respect, offers us a striking example of the best way to kill an important industry by protectionism. In 1856, the total imports and exports by sea of the United State amounted to $640 million. Of this amount, 75 per cent were carried in American, and only 25 per cent in foreign vessels. British ocean steamers were already then encroaching upon American sailing vessels; yet, in 1860, of a total seagoing trade of $760 million, American vessels still carried 67 per cent.
>The Civil War came on, and protection to American shipbuilding; and the latter plan was so successful that it has nearly completely driven the American flag from the high seas. In 1887, the total seagoing trade of the United States amounted to $1.4 billion, but of this total only 14 per cent were carried in American, and 86 per cent in foreign bottoms. The goods carried by American ships amounted, in 1856, to $480 million; in 1860 to $500 million. In 1887, they had sunk to $190 million. Prior to the civil war, the American flag was the most dangerous rival of the British flag, and bade fair to outstrip it on the ocean; after the civil war it was nowhere. Protection to shipbuilding has killed both shipping and shipbuilding.
President Donald Trump told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that planned tariffs on pharmaceuticals imported into the U.S. could eventually reach up to 250%, the highest rate he has threatened so far.
He said he will initially impose a “small tariff” on pharmaceuticals, but then in one year to a year and a half “maximum” he will raise that rate to 150% and then 250%.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/05/trump-says-pharma-tariffs-could-eventually-reach-up-to-250percent.htmlLmao
>>2418028>From this point of view, 40 years ago Marx pronounced, in principle, in favor of Free Trade as the more progressive plan, and therefore the plan which would soonest bring capitalist society to that deadlock. But if Marx declared in favor of Free Trade on that ground, is that not a reason for every supporter of the present order of society to declare against Free Trade? If Free Trade is stated to be revolutionary, must not all good citizens vote for Protection as a conservative plan?
>If a country nowadays accepts Free Trade, it will certainly not do so to please the socialists. It will do so because Free trade has become a necessity for the industrial capitalists. But if it should reject Free Trade and stick to Protection, in order to cheat the socialists out of the expected social catastrophe, that will not hurt the prospects of socialism in the least. Protection is a plan for artificially manufacturing manufacturers, and therefore also a plan for artificially manufacturing wage laborers. You cannot breed the one without breeding the other.
>The wage laborer everywhere follows in the footsteps of the manufacturer; he is like the "gloomy care" of Horace, that sits behind the rider, and that he cannot shake off wherever he go. You cannot escape fate; in other words, you cannot escape the necessary consequences of your own actions. A system of production based upon the exploitation of wage labor, in which wealth increases in proportion to the number of laborers employed and exploited, such a system is bound to increase the class of wage laborers, that is to say, the class which is fated one day to destroy the system itself. In the meantime, there is no help for it: you must go on developing the capitalist system, you must accelerate the production, accumulation, and centralization of capitalist wealth, and, along with it, the production of a revolutionary class of laborers. Whether you try the Protectionist or the Free Trade will make no difference in the end, and hardly any in the length of the respite left to you until the day when that end will come. For long before that day will protection have become an unbearable shackle to any country aspiring, with a chance of success, to hold its own in the world market.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1888/free-trade/ >>2418061>somewhat good endingall the old boomers die off and they get replaced with a surge of social democrat youth like zohran and aoc……..who just end up being disappointments in their own special way
>bad endingyou guys hear about abundance liberalism
>>2418163I said a while ago that there was an interview where he was talking about Anita Sarkeesian and you could kind of see the gears turning: "Wait, she's doing this better than me."
No big shock about this.
>>2417179Kek
>>2417413Very based, yes
>>2417994Why does he stand
Why does he stand
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